Some Choice Words for the 'Select Few'
If you want to know what really matters in Washington, don't go to Capitol Hill for one of those hearings, or pay attention to those staged White House "town meetings." They're just for show. What really happens -- the serious business of Washington -- happens in the shadows, out of sight, off the record. Only occasionally -- and usually only because someone high up stumbles -- do we get a glimpse of just how pervasive the corruption has become.
Case in point: Katharine Weymouth, the publisher of The Washington Post -- one of the most powerful people in DC -- invited top officials from the White House, the Cabinet and Congress to her home for an intimate, off-the-record dinner to discuss health care reform with some of her reporters and editors covering the story.
But CEO's and lobbyists from the health care industry were invited, too, provided they forked over $25,000 a head -- or up to a quarter of a million if they want to sponsor a whole series of these cozy get-togethers. And what is the inducement offered? Nothing less, the invitation read, than "an exclusive opportunity to participate in the health-care reform debate among the select few who will get it done."
The invitation reminds the CEO's and lobbyists that they will be buying access to "those powerful few in business and policy making who are forwarding, legislating and reporting on the issues...
"Spirited? Yes. Confrontational? No." The invitation promises this private, intimate and off-the-record dinner is an extension "of The Washington Post brand of journalistic inquiry into the issues, a unique opportunity for stakeholders to hear and be heard."
Let that sink in. In this case, the "stakeholders" in health care reform do not include the rabble -- the folks across the country who actually need quality health care but can't afford it. If any of them showed up at the kitchen door on the night of this little soiree, the bouncer would drop kick them beyond the Beltway.
No, before you can cross the threshold to reach "the select few who will actually get it done," you must first cross the palm of some outstretched hand. The Washington Post dinner was canceled after a copy of the invite was leaked to the web site Politico.com, by a health care lobbyist, of all people. The paper said it was a misunderstanding -- the document was a draft that had been mailed out prematurely by its marketing department. There's noblesse oblige for you -- blame it on the hired help.
In any case, it was enough to give us a glimpse into how things really work in Washington -- a clear insight into why there is such a great disconnect between democracy and government today, between Washington and the rest of the country.
According to one poll after another, a majority of Americans not only want a public option in health care, they also think that growing inequality is bad for the country, that corporations have too much power over policy, that money in politics is the root of all evil, that working families and poor communities need and deserve public support if the market system fails to generate shared prosperity.
But when the insiders in Washington have finished tearing worthy intentions apart and devouring flesh from bone, none of these reforms happen. "Oh," they say, "it's all about compromise. All in the nature of the give-and-take-negotiating of a representative democracy."
That, people, is bull -- the basic nutrient of Washington's high and mighty.
It's not about compromise. It's not about what the public wants. It's about money -- the golden ticket to "the select few who actually get it done."
When Congress passed the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, "the select few" made sure it no longer contained the cramdown provision that would have allowed judges to readjust mortgages. The one provision that would have helped homeowners the most was removed in favor of an industry that pours hundreds of millions into political campaigns.
So, too, with a bill designed to protect us from terrorist attacks on chemical plants. With "the select few" dictating marching orders, hundreds of factories are being exempted from measures that would make them spend money to prevent the release of toxic clouds that could kill hundreds of thousands.
Everyone knows the credit ratings agencies were co-conspirators with Wall Street in the shameful wilding that brought on the financial meltdown. But when the Obama administration came up with new reforms to prevent another crisis, the credit ratings agencies were given a pass. They'd been excused by "the select few who actually get it done."
And by the time an energy bill emerged from the House of Representatives the other day, "the select few who actually get it done" had given away billions of dollars worth of emission permits and offsets. As The New York Times reported, while the legislation worked its way to the House floor, "It grew fat with compromises, carve-outs, concessions and out-and-out gifts," expanding from 648 pages to 1400 as it spread its largesse among big oil and gas, utility companies and agribusiness.
This week, the public interest groups Common Cause and the Center for Responsive Politics reported that, "According to lobby disclosure reports, 34 energy companies registered in the first quarter of 2009 to lobby Congress around the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009. This group of companies spent a total of $23.7 million -- or $260,000 a day -- lobbying members of Congress in January, February and March.
"Many of these same companies also made large contributions to the members of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, which has jurisdiction over the legislation and held a hearing this week on the proposed 'cap and trade' system energy companies are fighting. Data shows oil and gas companies, mining companies and electric utilities combined have given more than $2 million just to the 19 members of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee since 2007, the start of the last full election cycle."
It's happening to health care as well. Even the pro-business magazine The Economist says America has the worst system in the developed world, controlled by executives who are not held to account and investors whose primary goal is raising share price and increasing profit -- while wasting $450 billion dollars in redundant administrative costs and leaving nearly 50 million uninsured.
Enter "the select few who actually get it done." Three out of four of the big health care firms lobbying on Capitol Hill have former members of Congress or government staff members on the payroll -- more than 350 of them -- and they're all fighting hard to prevent a public option, at a rate in excess of $1.4 million a day.
Health care policy has become insider heaven. Even Nancy-Ann DeParle, the White House health reform director, served on the boards of several major health care corporations.
President Obama has pushed hard for a public option but many fear he's wavering, and just this week his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel -- the insider di tutti insiders -- indicated that a public plan just might be negotiable, ready for reengineering, no doubt, by "the select few who actually get it done."
That's how it works. And it works that way because we let it. The game goes on and the insiders keep dealing themselves winning hands. Nothing will change -- nothing -- until the money lenders are tossed out of the temple, the ATM's are wrested from the marble halls, and we tear down the sign they've placed on government -- the one that reads, "For Sale."
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Show AllSo what is the Plan??
Why don't the Moyers and the Naders among us design a comprehensive, coherent plan to take our collective dissatisfaction to the next level - through systematically educating the public and devising strategies to achieve the big outcomes? That's our only hope I think. Blogging surely is not going to achieve change (or even much education). The left wastes so much time organizing issue campaigns composed of paid activists and whoever else they can browbeat into contributing, writing letters to Congress, or visiting senators offices. To what end? Sure, there are some victories, but if we're losing the war, how much does it matter? We need a new framework, please!!
The US is as corrupt as any other nation. So stop pretending and finally admit: no better, no worse than any other. And this is the country that the world looks to for leadership? What is the matter with the world? Gone stupid?
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. (H.L. Mencken)
That, as I see it, is the problem here. I have read some very thought-provoking posts from some very intelligent people here. And forgive me, but I'm just not that smart. However, we live in a nation in which "one in five high school grads cannot read their own diplomas"(http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0201illiterateamerica.htm). A large percentage cannot read a map.
Those people aren't reading this excellent article by Moyers and Winship. They aren't posting their comments here. They are content to watch Wheel of Fortune instead of the news. Inside Edition is the closest many of them come to journalism. The politicians know this, and count on it.
Talking heads on both sides, from Olberman to O'Reilly, do their best to reach this audience because when you are content to let someone else do your thinking for you, your mind is easily swayed.
Here in the midwest, I'm hearing a lot of talk of actual revolt. The Glenn Becks and Ted Nugents and Limbaughs are stoking a fire that will soon burn out of control. Gun sales are up, book sales down. That's never a good combination.
I don't have any answers. But the idea of a right wing resurgence, at best, or insurrection, at worst, scares the hell out of me. If you all want to organize, I'm in. Email me DHSwinehart@gmail.com
I started with a Mencken quote, I'll finish with one:
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
America cannot change. I used to think that with enough economic hardship affecting a large enough segment of our population, people would shut off their dream machines and become politically involved ... and act in their collective best interests.
Apparently not. Well at least not in the ways we'd hoped. If things got much worse for a lot of people, would it make a difference? The only political action that seems to appeal to anyone is the kind fomented by the Right. (Guns, Militias, etc.) These movements and others like the Tea Parties are just cathartic expressions of rage and frustration. These people argue against the very idea of taxes instead of demanding more tangible and equitable benefits from the taxes that are collected.
Because the Right has done such an effective job of discrediting government of any kind, political energy is directed towards self-defeating ideals like secession, tax abolition, and the most pointless of all, arming ourselves for the "second revolution." As Chris Hedges says in the attached, "The system wants violence." Then they can turn up the heat, take away all our civil rights and establish more restrictive laws to (of course) "protect us from ourselves."
Look at this and bear witness to some of the madness that's sweeping our nation.
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20090708_time_for_a_second_revolution
The true but unappealing fact is that the only way we can change this government is to act politically: invest our time our actions and our votes. Don't settle for charismatic products like Obama (anyone else convinced yet he was the wrong one?)
It's too hard I'll admit. We're too big. But we have to find a way. We need a revolution alright, but not one waged with traditional weapons of war. We need to take up arms in the information revolution: Push people to become candidates and get them elected. Break down the barriers to participation in government. Get more millionaires out of government and more middle class in.
Nothing would make me happier than some outrageous groundswell of activism that would wipe that irritatingly complacent smile off Obama's face. (It's almost become as irritating as Bush's smirk)
We need politicians that will forgo dinners at Blue Hill while millions live in poverty and hunger. We need a real visionary not a charismatic consumer product that is well-schooled in the finesse of navigating politics (Why do you think Palin is so popular?). We need real change and we won't get it until we change - as a nation.
And we need to make it happen before the frustrations on the right turn into a violence that will change our country for the worst.
One more excellent article about how Washington works, how the will of the public is thwarted. One question, is this how all of Washington works, all the time everyday, on every issue?
And I hear people say that we let them do this. I write my representatives... I write letters to the editor... I send money to groups that, I think, support my positions... I vote... and nothing ever much changes. But, I don't know what to do. What else should we do in order to get our government to respond as we want them to?
Mr. Moyers and Mr. Winship,
Thank you.
Absolutely magnificent.
Sincerely,
Deborah
Boston, MA
"That's how it works. And it works that way because we let it."
As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger, "What do you mean 'we', white man?".
THEY planned this. THEY milked us of profits after convincing us through clever PR that more is better. THEY then took the profits to buy our politicians, change the laws, concentrate their wealth some more and strip us of our dignity, self respect and voice in our government. WE trusted the government. Telling us WE let them do this is like telling a rape victim it was her fault because she has a vagina. What utter crap!
Lets talk about who "THEY" are. The oligarchy with their family dynasties are the best, brightest, most inventive, wholesome, family loving, harmonious, industrial and productive individuals on earth who well deserve their riches...NOT!
This is the myth. If they are so great, why, among families where the ultimate socialst dream exists (no hunger, no physical needs unfullfilled, the best education, exposure to the most beautiful works of art and artists, vacation in the finest resorts, respect from their peers, press adulation, etc. ad nauseum) do these families have violent strife and envy, wars over inheritance, public sniping and feuds, sibling murder or fraticide? Shakespeare covered the "harmony" among the royalty pretty well. The bible shows us how "great" brothers and sisters in the king's family get along. So you see, these people have one and only one outstanding trait; they are willing to sacrifice anything and anybody for power and riches. The rich elite are the worst trash there is in the world. The way hollywood portrays their lives is total bullshit. The PR game has convinced us that this predatory existence they lead is the ideal human condition. Wake the fuck up, people! They are LOSERS and they want us to be losers like them. Eschew their riches and pig behavior.
THEY NEED US. WE DON'T NEED THEM.
Bring them down with a frugal life. If you still envy the rich lifestyle, consider a frugal lifestyle as group therapy and "act it out" for awhile. The addiction to "rich envy" will fade. It takes time and you must avoid consumerist PR.
When you see somebody rich, turn your eyes away and say, "there goes the neighborhood". They are trash.
AGG
"Bring them down with a frugal life."
-I agree, but as long as we have a capitalist system, not consuming means people lose their jobs. It's a catch-22, in order for a capitalist to function the sheeple must consume.
The way the game is rigged the oligarchs can't lose. When times are booming they rake in profits, when times bust, like now, they socialize the losses. The profits remain private, the losses are socialized.
It really is the system that needs to change, because capitalism doesn't work for the majority, it works handsomely for the top. Most of the sheeple being marginalized by the system are also defenders of it. So how do we convince them we need to do away with capitalism when secretly many of them hope to win a lottery a ticket and one day be rich themselves?
Ric Tailcap
"So how do we convince them we need to do away with capitalism when secretly many of them hope to win a lottery a ticket and one day be rich themselves?"
I wish I knew. I was part of the rat race for many years and bought into the "money isn't everything, but it's way ahead of whatever is in second place" meme. What caused me to change? I saw how for every year that I busted my tail working and taking additional college courses to better myself, the elite were "bettering themselves" economically by several multiples of my best efforts. After blaming myself for a while, I finally realized that our system was set up this way. All my efforts were helping lazy rich people much more than they were helping me. I was perpetuating THEIR wealth while inching agonizingly towards mine. I vowed to stop welfare for the rich and frugality is the only way. War and Peace is a good book that shows how a poor guy is subsequently treated as important when he inherits a fortune. It's all fake and he finally realizes it.
I hope that helps.
That explains why people look at my wife and I when we would say how frugal we were. There too, enough discussion and I'd get shouted "commie" in my face yet again. The poor schmucks have nothing to gain from capitalism and yet they hate the very thing that could save their lives. I am also witnessing more hardline Obama cultists parroting Obama on supporting capitalism.
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
You are right and they are wrong. As Obama's betrayal becomes more evident, his defenders will be silenced and realize you were right. When they "get it", they'll look again at your life style. They'll see how you continue to live in good and bad times. They'll see how you are a reliable, unbuyable individual and seek to emulate you. The current aversion to frugality is a product of a generation of clever, massive and nearly constant advertising through product placement in television and movies. Movie stars act out the "I love money, money, money and it makes me so happy, happy happy" over and over again. So it's little wonder that the victims of this con see you as the one in error; Peer pressure to be a big spender is part of the con. I have several family members who are loyal republican money lovers who think I'm some kind of Vermont hippy that has rejected society. Well, I HAVE rejected their version of it. Hang in there. My wife and I get the same treatment and worse.
This news is worthy. Pacifica Radio reported it a few days ago. I do take one exception:
"President Obama has pushed hard for a public option but many fear he's wavering,..."
Is this true? Has Obama pushed hard? I don't think so.
Of course not. Obama's PR goons are just trying to keep him positioned as the voice of reason. Watch how he tap dances around the calls for a new stimulus. Anything that goes strait to the people without giving 90% to the elite crooks first will not be approved by this president. He is bought and paid for. His administration HAS JUST ROBBED MILLIONS of retired people and employees by claiming there is no inflation htis year. That will deny COLA money to those who need it most in 2010. But you don't hear a word about the gamed CPI (consumer price index). Help is not on the way. We can only help ourselves.
Sioux Rose
AGG: Right on! Thank you for an incisive analysis. Obama's moves are so predictable they could be made into a new dance. It could be named the "bait, court, and quick switch," requiring numerous 180-degree turns, done adroitly and repeated. I guess it's so spellbinding to dumb-struck audiences that it seems fresh and innovative, every time he assumes his quick steps. (Apologies to our own forum's quickstepper.)
Soux Rose,
Thank you. I hope the dental thing is working out.
"Obama's moves are so predictable"
Are you so sure about that? I can predict what the Republicans will do from a mile away but the Democrats especially Obama have a knack of sniveling and then stabbing at very close range. I can expect bad stuff from Obama but don't know how bad. Are you referring to the Obama cultists and their violent talks and moves?
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
It's best that you anticipate the worst of Obama. Obama's too unpredictable IMO at least in terms of how bad he can get.
It's all because of 'representation.'
The power of lobbies do not contravene or contradict the power of the vote; they feed from it. That is why lobbies are part of superficially part of democratic systems, not part of straightforwardly totalitarian ones.
In the US, lobbies work and corporations almost completely control government not because Americans' votes are worthless, but because so many of them can be indirectly purchased. The lobbyist purchases media exposure for the politician, who returns policy decisions.
The changing Democratic platform through the 2008 election manifested this as clearly as a textbook. Policies faded and fell to the right as progressive campaigns fell to underfunding and media blackouts and the front-runners found themselves competing in a field with no progressives in the running and none that they had to face in open debate.
The American people could gain control of the electoral process directly should they, by some miracle, manage to become generally informed about politics.
Of course, that will remain hypothetical.
The other possibilities involve systemic reform of the ways media govern elections.
Since Congress is too beholden to lobbyists to vote to limit lobbying, this has to be done by direct ballot proposals.
"Since Congress is too beholden to lobbyists to vote to limit lobbying, this has to be done by direct ballot proposals."
I think CA has already tried direct ballot proposals and like MS, they often don't work out. Somehow, it's too easy to brainwash the voters into getting their votes wrong. We may need varieties of counter lobbyists and think tanks that aren't too monied.
i do hold out some hope for single-payer healthcare.... or just for the genuine 'care' of some in the health biz to go viral, but am so far just grateful beyond words i haven't NEEDED healthcare like so many mistreated, untreated and undertreated people i've known have.... sometimes desperately. personally i avoid the healthcare industrial complex as much as possible and try to eat consciously of not just my own health, but that of the earth that sustains us all & to exercise sensibly for prevention, and hopefully will face my aging body's inevitable deterioration with the right balance of tenacity and acceptance once my mortality manifests in a big way. to see insurance companies and big pharma evaporate or transform into something resembling actual compassionate CARE for the sick or injured or dying in my lifetime would be a great thing to see, but dedication, kindness and respectful earth stewardship are not a commodities, however much it might look that way, given the access and lack of access to med. care based on economic class. someday maybe we humans will have enough imagination, skill & intelligence to get over our buying and selling mania and learn how to just be kind, living simply 'that others may simply live'.
You may be right that we all have to eat and live responsibly but even then it doesn't guarantee that your healthcare costs will necessarily be low. You cannot expect people to be automatically enlightened. If there are forces out there to brainwash the masses, there needs to be counter-forces to effectively cancel the brainwashing. I don't like blaming people for lack of personal responsibility.
This is corruption, and corruption is the biggest problem in the world today, far greater than "terrorism." It is exacerbated by what I call "willful ignorance" on the part of public officials - complete disinterest in even thinking about what might be good or wise to work toward for the common good.
We all know that money influences governance. Election reform can help, but the influence of money then moves 'off the map': it still remains a potent force. Consider the implicit understanding of people like Rubin, Summers, and Geithner that a cushy bankster job awaits them after their government service is done (or not, ya know what I mean?).
But the money can STILL reflect, imperfectly, the WILL of the PEOPLE, if the PEOPLE STILL OWN THE MONEY. The danger to our democracy is wealth concentration: the money that influences policy coming from too few points of view. And no one denies that, since Reagan cut taxes, there has been wealth concentration. In 1980, the wealthiest 1% of the country owned 20% of it. Today, that's 40%. In 1977, the wealthiest 0.1% of income earners earned 20 times the median income of the poorest 90%. Today, that ratio is 80 times! Given this, how can Congress help but reflect the issues important to a smaller and smaller fraction of society?
We need to return progressive taxation to the levels it was at between 1930 and 1980. No, we weren't corruption free. But we were solvent, dynamic, tops in industry, engineering, civilization, infrastructure. Basically, we were everything we today are NOT. And I don't find it inconsequential that, in some states, the wealthy actually pay LOWER tax rates than the poor.
"We need to return progressive taxation to the levels it was at between 1930 and 1980."
This MUST BE DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The bills this nation owes and the commitments it has made require it and history has shown that it makes society stable and improves things for everyone Including the rich.
OMT, Right now we go into debt as a nation to give money to the rich to invest and correct things. People, with progressive taxation with deductions for investment in the economy we did the same thing and didn't go into debt. The rich were forced to invest to get those deductions and things worked. Force the rich through tax policy to do this again otherwise we are just bankrupting the nation. I sure didn't see the rich getting poorer in those days. LOL!!!!
ubrew12,
"The danger to our democracy is wealth concentration"
Surely, you are reffering to our democracy in the past tense.
We don't have a democracy. We exist in a kleptocratic plutocracy or a plutocratic kleptocracy.
ALL the money comes from the poor and middle class. And as you have pointed out, corruption, injustice, the assault on honesty and decency and the destruction of everything worthwhile will continue until we stop letting them milk us. We must learn to love living like paupers. We must learn to be unselfish and share with our neighbors. We will destroy the influence of the rich on our politicians if the rich become poor. The rest is BULLSHIT. Remember, the rich get their money from YOU. Stop being an idiot. Deny them their profits.
BeForKids writes...
"We're not powerless. We can take our country back with the power of our vote."
I agree, but each and every year corporate America decides the only participants in the election. Most Congressmen, who ran in the last election, were sponsored by Big Pharma. It didn't matter whom you voted for, the corporate guy got in.
As for a new party that doesn't tow the corporate line, corporate media would ignore it or patronizingly make occasional reference to the new party only to point out that it's not realistic to vote for a third party. Most Americans would never even get a chance to hear about it. Look at Ralph Nader? The majority of Americans still don't know that he ran for president in the last two elections. Still millions voted for him in 2000 only to be blamed later for getting Adolf Bush elected. I sincerely doubt that Al Gore would have been the panacea that we were hoping for as well. Simply put, you can't participate in the election process (as a candidate) unless corporate America first approves of you regardless of the party affiliation.
"We're not powerless. We can take our country back with the power of our vote."
BULLSHIT.
Only withholding our dollars from the corporation will change the equation so that our vote has some meaning. As long as bribing is called lobbying, we don't have a snowball's chance in hell of influencing government. You must deny the profits to the corporate crooks that buy our politicians.
FRUGALITY IS FREEDOM!
It will hurt. They'll laugh at us. Many of us will die of disease and hunger while the rich hoard their fortunes. The politicians and newspapers will wage wars on our "stinginess" and "laziness" and "anti-american unproductivity". It will all be PR to herd us back the the milking and butchering areas. The quicker alternative is violent revoltion. Violent revolution only changes the names of those in power so that a new set of assholes can milk us. No, this can only be done slowly and painfully. If you love money and are poor or middle class, you've already been defeated.
Agg and Space Cadet, you both miss my point. We can advance by starting local and moving up from there. The more Congressional districts we start with the better, but one is better than none. It will just take longer.
Agg, you sound like a corporatist's wet dream. This isn't about frugality, it's about survival. They would love an uncomplaining slave wage/cannon fodder class consisting of 95% of Americans but I DON'T! I want affordable college, affordable health care, safe and professional childcare, a year of paid maternity leave so babies can be nurtured, 30 hour workweeks and 6 week vacations so families can relax and spend time together. If other countries can do this we can. Americans don't realize they are entitled to this but they are. Like the USSR of the 1950s, we are living behind an iron curtain withholding information about what our lives could be.
We can take back our country with the power of our vote if we refuse to vote for anyone who accepts corporate money. Our representatives should be writing and passing laws for us, not laws written by lobbyists for the corporations. Hell, they don't even read those laws before voting yes.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
I have a better idea. Why not plant in some fake Democrats and Republicans who will switch to Main Street Party once elected and follow the MS party platform of course? It's bad enough that the electorate will only choose between Democrat and Republican so why not just sneak them in without waking up the two sleeping giants?
BeForKids,
You and all of us need to organize.
If readers/posters are sincere, we will make plans to get together at public forums. Visit the website for Netroots Nation 2009; this year's convention is in Pittsburgh, August 13-16. I would guess that there will be a CommonDreams booth.
Last November I invited readers to join me at School of Americas vigil in November. I met Marie Dennis who authored the CommonDreams essay, "Shut the Doors on a Disgraced Military School," 11/20/08
If readers are sincere about doing something and taking action, it would help to organize.
wc652,
I agree with your above post. There is very little organization in this nation of ours. As long as liberal/progressive people stay on the computer, lamenting about one thing or another, nothing will change except an increase in power and profit for the ruling elite, the corporate executives, the war-mongers, and the politicians accepting money from these types.
Standing together, in person, and in numbers is crucial for progressive change. Chit chat on the computer only goes so far as we share our thoughts with one another, and the ruling-class could care less about how mad the "keyboarders" are. The political actions legislation in Washington D.C. proves my point. Many writing on this forum have very good ideas, and I like BeForKids idea of a "Main Street Party" for common people. The Democrats, for the most part, lost my respect, but I have supported and voted for progressive ones.
I envisioned a CommonDreams summit last year, but most posters prefer isolationism, and are very fearful of other people in spite of having good intentions. One thing about tyrants...they aren't bashful for coming together in achieving their goals for money and power. Too bad more on the left don't have the courage of their convictions.
Peaceman,
I cannot tell you just how much I agree with you. I surprisingly find myself getting better the more time I spend reading the books than posting. I understand what you mean on isolationism. I've seen a lot of grouping and dividing on this and other sites, even the progressive/liberal sites, on the Internet. Despite the divisions though, I do give it my best to communicate with others with different view points rather than letting myself get too taken into one person alone. The trick is to mingle in with various viewpoints on the left and figure out how best to separate the wheat from the chafe when necessary. As for a CD summit, yeah that's going to be harder to actually envision since our nation believes so much in individualist mentality. By the way, long time no see. Welcome back. :)
Jennifer,
Thanks for your understanding. You are correct about assessing different points of views on the left and one thing for sure about liberals and progressives--we promote our way or method as the best or proper way towards attaining our goals, and therein lies the problem, I think. Too many directions on how to get there and achieve results. It's difficult for many on the left to get on the same page and unite. As for a CD summit, I gave up on that concept and work in the surrounding communities in building consensus for specific issues. I'm more into an active role rather than a passive one posting comments on CD or other websites. But the comments section ARE important, as we learn from each other. I'm promoting Single Payer Health Care, HR 676, and several other things at the moment. If anyone hasn't seen the Bill Moyer's interview Friday night, they need to, and if they're still not convinced about the treacherous agenda of the insurance companies, then our country is doomed. Sometimes I'm off of CD for a few weeks at a time and don't even read the articles because of time limitations. You noticed. Thanks again!
"Sometimes I'm off of CD for a few weeks at a time and don't even read the articles because of time limitations. You noticed. Thanks again!"
I wished I could share that strength but there's so much goodies on this site I just can't resist. :)
PS: I still have your posts and advice in hand and don't hesitate to look back on them.
You're very kind, Jennifer, but there many fine people posting on CD who say so much more than I do.
I know what you mean about the difficulty in staying away. Don't worry, the old Peaceman is very aware of daily events.
The main thing is...you're on the right path. So, my compliments to you!
"We can take back our country with the power of our vote if we refuse to vote for anyone who accepts corporate money."
Yes, but candidates who don't take corporate money don't get to play. So you have a problem here with this analysis. The only time that the accumulation of local offices has worked to build a national electoral movement is the movement on the right recently. and whether or not it's "worked" is arguable, since most of the wishlist of the social right in the US has remained unfulfilled. Further, that was a movement incubated by the infusion of millions of dollars of both corporate and antidemocratic millionaire money. Progressives won't get that kind of seed cash. Ever.
The electoral system as is, is broken. Completely broken. YOu can take over as many school boards as you wish--like the right did--or take as many state legislative seats as you'd like. But nothing changes. And the reason nothing changes is the way our Federalist system is gamed by national power. There are a thousand ways to overrule local and state officers and policies that aren't acceptable to the dominant political and commercial elites.
Think of what you *can't* do right now:
1. You can't run for office without money. Period. Even smaller local offices require an outlay of cash that is beyond the reach of almosst anyone that is not solidily middle class. Further, the time required to work AND run for a campaign is generally not available to ordinary workers (corporatista managers can sometimes pick and choose their time off to do these things. Usually it's self-employed professionals, like lawyers and doctors).
2. You cannot limit the expenditure of cash on campaigns at any level. Thanks to Buckley v Valeo, cash is speech. Even if you managed to get some laws passed, they will be overturned on challenge. Rich people love 527s, since they get to open up the purse strings and go to town against a candidate or party by running "issue" ads.
3. Gerrymandering over the years has resulted in so many "safe"" districts for one of the major parties that it would be virtually impossible for even a nationaly supported third party to gain substantive numbers of seats in any legislative body. They could get massive numbers of total votes, but be left with nothing in the end.
4. You cannot bypass the media filters at any level. All "news" outlets are essentially conservative--if you include corporatist as a form of conservatism, which I do. Advertisers wishes rule, and that is *always* taken into account when determining what to cover and what to ignore. If there was any doubt about this before, there can benone now after the Washington Post "pay to play" scandal.
What we have is a tension between normative civic duty--exercising the right to vote to the point where a right becomes duty--and the conferring of legitimacy on the state. This is, in my view, our single biggest error. We shouldn't be trying to win elections, attractive as the possibility may appear. Ask the right where 35 years of building a massive and well-funded movement got them in the end. Almost nowhere (almost, but they did get a few things).
If we believe that this system is irredeemable, than our first obligation is to begin the long process of stripping legitimacy from this system. We cannot do that when people vote. Each time you vote, you are giving your consent, regardless of who you vote for. An electoral boycott in massive numbers (and they're pretty big now!) would at the very least put power on notice that we're no longer in thrall to the faux democracy we've established. We're beginning, inother words, the long process of getting a national divorce from the state.
I hate to conclude that one of the most important things to do is to make sure you don't vote anymore, but I do conclude that. We have to decide whether or not we're going to be antagonistic to the state and act accordingly, or if we're going to continue in this bizarre holding pattern, constantly waiting for a savior that never comes, and in doing so, continuing to give voice to the fantasy that we still believe America can work as advertised.
I can't give the state anything anymore. And I can't vote, because I don't see myself as a citizen possessed of representation OR rights. So in return, I refuse to give moral cover for this machine. The most power I have right now is to tell them, "I may not be able to stop you, but I sure as hell won't sign my own death warrant".
Just something to think about.
"They" have been putting "their" person in anyway.
Not voting won't change who gets elected!
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BE FOR KIDS - Act LOCAL is the exception!
Lets start getting PEOPLE WE KNOW into local government!
I've been toying with the idea of not voting and I think I might go for it. I just don't see it working, at any level anymore for me. And I've been doing it conscienciously for 30 years. That's a long time to give something a chance and have it disappoint you over and over again.
Me, too. It's understandable that the young hold out hope for this sytem, and one of the weirder things is that we usually associate youth with rebellion; and with some justification. But the flip side of being young is that you don't have the gritty experience of seeing a "system" for what it is. That, sadly, takes time. So when you're finally old enough to realize you've been gamed, you're also old enough to where rocking the boat hasalmost been bred out of your DNA by your experience as a field hand. And when you're young, there's always the "next election".
I wish we didn't even have to have discussions like this. Anyone remember how board discussions were even 8 years ago? Or even prior to 2004? I'm seeing posts and language I'd never thought i'd start seeing from ordinary people like me. But I guess this is where the long march begins. John Adams famously said that the American Revolution began in the heads of the people about ten years prior to the war actually being waged (as a result of the injustices of the French-Indian War). I think we're in the same position.
AS each person concludes that their government is this alien lifeform that rules without regard, the bond becomes ever more fragile between state and citizen. Even peaceful revolutions--and most of them I think are peaceful--require that severance. I think radicals have to focus on that psychological aspect of it. Pushing people, respectfully but firmly, toward the idea that there is probably no way this country can fix itself; for the same reason a broken mower can't do it.
Skip_Townes,
I applaud your efforts and analysis. It is obvious that you are part of the solution.
Thank you
BeForKids,
"Agg, you sound like a corporatist's wet dream."
If I'm a corporatist's wet dream, then they must have a strange sex life.
All kidding aside, I hear what you are saying. They will step on me like an ant. I beg to differ. You still labor under the impression that these powerful people buying our politicians owe their power to the government and the military. It's not true. Most people in the government and the military and the police come from people like you and me who are highly pissed. The power of our leaders comes from us. The money of the rich comes from us. They don't get the profits from each other. We deny them the profits and they can't pull the political strings. THEN we institute the reforms because THEN the politicians won't be bought and paid for by the elite. Now if you think wanting to impoverish the rich is a weak kneed idea borne of cowardice, I'll accept that as a possibility. However, I maintain that lack of profits strikes terror into the rich elite's heart like no violent revolution would. Furthermore, as long as most Americans like the idea of being rich, fat, wealthy and just plain pigging out, then the elite bastards can always buy enough of us to DESTROY any reforms for the good of the people like the 30 hour work week and free education. It is KEY to embrace a philosophy of life OPPOSITE to the elite outlook. Perhaps you hunger for your shot at the big time. They'll buy you.
"This isn't about frugality, it's about survival."
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ACCROSS TO YOU!
I'm not being frugal because it's fun. I do it because it hurts the elite. You say that is bullshit. Okay, 70% of the economy is consumer spending. Someone here said we had to exit the economy totally to do the corporations enough damage. NOT TRUE. All we have to do is cut their profits as a positive act instead of an "oh shit, I'm poor so I'll have to be frugal" thing. Corporations are leveraged to the hilt. It won't take much to bring them down. They were much more fiscally conservative before the Great Depression. Now it's much easier to bring them down because their finances are so fragile. So if we reduce our spending by 50% (NOT exiting the economy totally), we destroy the economy and the profits. Furthermore, if we ALL sell our stocks and put the money in bonds or treasuries or savings accounts in credit unions, it destroys the hedge funds, pension fund managers and wall street brokers that BUY our politicians with OUR money. The whole 401K thing was a massive, fraudulent buck pass to screw the American people and further enrichen the elite. But I'll bet you still have a 401K, right?
I think we're on the same side but you think I'm mealy mouthed. The tough guy American individualist, Horacio Alger thing was ALWAYS a myth. Jimmy Stewart's movie characters NEVER existed. We've been gamed. Wake up. We CANNOT use their methods to bring them down. They are better at them and we'll always lose because half of us will be led by the smell of MONEY.
The vote is but one variable in the equation, just as withholding dollars from the corporations is but one variable.
Frugality as freedom is just a nice daydream. The only way that could possibly work is to utterly and totally remove yourself from modern society, and that certainly doesn't equate to freedom of choice and the right of self-determination for all.
There is the question of money. It is currently a privately owned commodity. That is a key variable in the equation. Surely anyone should be able to comprehend how when your money is owned so are you.
There is the question of law. It is currently legislated and adjudicated by those beholden to financial, corporate and special interests, by which the spirit of personal freedoms have been throughly co-opted.
And there is the question of political persuasion. Whenever partisan rhetoric and partisanship are involved, objectivity and common sense are lost.
And finally there is the question of critical mass. Common ground cannot be found nor can the seeds of common welfare flourish whenever the greater mass of people fail to define and adhere to a common vision.
In concluding that any one man or any one variable can bring about the change we seek, you fail to understand the true nature of what binds us.
Amendment X of the Constitution provides the opportunity for people to lawfully organize and assert power within the framework of "Natural Law" as referenced and set forth by our forefathers in the Declaration of Independence. As if history hasn't already enlightened us, a violent revolution will simply be another case of jumping from the kettle into the fire, and in time we will find ourselves again at the mercy of those who will wield power as might rather than as responsibility..
At the end of the essay, they wrote: "That's how it works. And it works that way because we let it."
"We" is national consciousness. National consciousness is not coherent and it is not unified. Polls reveal that people prefer single-payer, that they want the wars finished, and so forth. But most people, I think, spend little time thinking about how it COULD be. They simply want to get through the day and enjoy life a little.
And most people have given up on government, though, unfortunately, they still pay their taxes, which is really criminal, considering the actions of the government.
It's very hard to bring change by fighting the system. This era is not like the '60s. National consciousness—and world consciousness—have changed dramatically. There is a lot of fear and little tolerance for any sort of disorder/disruption of normal business: hence the arrests of the single-payer advocates at the Senate hearings.
But while the face of things shows business as usual, there's no question about changes to come. It's just a matter of how smoothly these transitions occur.
The rich and powerful are accustomed to what they have. It's all they know. Most politicians resemble the people who vote for them: they are self-serving people of limited vision.
Many people have forgotten who they are—if they ever did know who they are. The future will demand that people know the deepest level of their existence. Only in knowing the deepest, purest, most peaceful level of the Self can someone perform action which is right for himself and his surroundings. Nature will demand this from all humanity. And nature always has the upper hand. History is rife with stories of societies which failed to honor nature.
The US may be lucky in many ways but this nation is not out of nature's realm and not beyond nature's reach. The disconnect between man and nature mirrors the disconnect between the people and the government.
That state of affairs cannot last.
"That's how it works. And it works that way because we let it."
As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger, "What do you mean 'we', white man?".
THEY planned this. THEY milked us of profits after convincing us through clever PR that more is better. THEY then took the profits to buy our politicians, change the laws, concentrate their wealth some more and strip us of our dignity, self respect and voice in our government. WE trusted the government. Telling us WE let them do this is like telling a rape victim it was her fault because she has a vagina. What utter crap!
Lets talk about who "THEY" are. The oligarchy with their family dynasties are the best, brightest, most inventive, wholesome, family loving, harmonious, industrial and productive individuals on earth who well deserve their riches...NOT!
This is the myth. If they are so great, why, among families where the ultimate socialst dream exists (no hunger, no physical needs unfullfilled, the best education, exposure to the most beautiful works of art and artists, vacation in the finest resorts, respect from their peers, press adulation, etc. ad nauseum) do these families have violent strife and envy, wars over inheritance, public sniping and feuds, sibling murder or fraticide? Shakespeare covered the "harmony" among the royalty pretty well. The bible shows us how "great" brothers and sisters in the king's family get along. So you see, these people have one and only one outstanding trait; they are willing to sacrifice anything and anybody for power and riches. The rich elite are the worst trash there is in the world. The way hollywood portrays their lives is total bullshit. The PR game has convinced us that this predatory existence they lead is the ideal human condition. Wake the fuck up, people! They are LOSERS and they want us to be losers like them. Eschew their riches and pig behavior.
THEY NEED US. WE DON'T NEED THEM.
Bring them down with a frugal life. If you still envy the rich lifestyle, consider a frugal lifestyle as group therapy and "act it out" for awhile. The addiction to "rich envy" will fade. It takes time and you must avoid consumerist PR.
When you see somebody rich, turn your eyes away and say, "there goes the neighborhood". They are trash.
Thank you for the laugh. Whew. That last line was priceless, I can't wait to use it. I have just the school board meeting to use it. And thanks for the way to talk to the teens that stream through my house about some of their "idols". (G~d, how I hate that word)
There's a good possibility that I won't get any of my transformative energy inventions prototyped. I'm right, but I'm not a fat cat. I'm an inventor, sitting on exactly what we need. Some of my designs go back 10 years but there wasn't any money then either.
No word yet, which isn't a good sign.
The Arctic sea ice extent has some chance of breaking 2007's record low by September. It will depend on a highly variable July and August. We can be sure that we'll be putting a great deal of methane, a global warming gas, into the atmosphere from the Arctic sea bed and from permafrost on surrounding lands. If you want to book a tourist ship sailing through Canada's Northeast Passage in September on an eco-tourism voyage, go ahead and book it.
Though sell PaulK, when we live in a world of R&D!
That's Rob and Duplicate!
OR
Buy the patent and sit on it.
I like the idea of supporting -for the rest of their lives-, people who invent things that benefit mankind.
While you promote your inventions, to corporate entities, (non disclosure docs and all) they find ways around YOU, and steal your idea anyway!
They have attorneys sitting around just waiting for a fight!
I think the sign reads"
"SOLD"
I'm reading one post after another expressing frustration and powerlessness about the corporate theft of our country. We're not powerless. We can take our country back with the power of our vote. We can create a new political party of the people, the Main Street Party, representing small businesses, small farms and working and want to be working Americans. No corporate money, and a government that supports and strengthens us instead of mega corporations. No social issues which only divide us (the corporations love that), just economic issues that a majority of Americans agree on. Free public education through college, tax support for small businesses and farm subsidies for small farms - not agribusiness, help for families hit by this economic disaster, which the banks caused and so far are the only beneficiaries of government help, fair pay and taxation and investing in our crumbling infrastructure. Single payer is the only way to go but the public is completely misinformed about it. When they hear they get to see the medical professional of their choice and all services are covered including prescription and dental and their share of the cost is a 3.5% tax increase with no premiums, deductibles or copays, they love it. So far, I've learned that the only people who ask more challenging questions are people who would oppose it anyway, like Libertarians. I'm ready for them, but their minds are made up. I don't worry about them. The majority of Americans are looking for a solution, not an argument.
Just request a minor political party manual from your secretary of state and put up flyers and announcements in whatever publications are available in your area for a community meeting to form a core group. I'm starting small, a Congressional district is a manageable size for collecting signatures. Mine will take about 4300 signatures to register a minor party. My plan is to start with candidates at the state level and end up in Congress. The states are just as corrupt, the only difference is the number of zeroes after the $ sign. Makes me think of that bumper sticker, Think Global Act Local. And another, Just Do It. Well, what do we have to lose?
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Kathy,
I admire your commitment to doing what you can to improve things. I wonder, though, why you are trying to start a new political party when the Green Party has done much of the work. Why not join them?
Ted
She explained this one yesterday when I asked her about the party's platform. The goal of Main Street Party is to focus on Main Street itself. Social issues have no place here and shall be taken care of when the time is ripe. I would much rather start clean rather than try to say Green Party and get shouted "commie" in my face.
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
Thanks for the synopsis, Benn. I had to work yesterday, so missed Kathy's explanation. I hope she didn't shy away from responding to my question because she's tired of answering the same question. People want to know why they should invest time and energy in a new party, so it bears repeating, even if it's over and over and over. Goes with the territory.
As far as the Green Party goes - I understand your POV. The GP is tainted, mostly wrongly. As a past member, I grew tired of working and defending my position after both internal strife (and some ridiculous demands) and external negative PR was used against it (mostly by Democrats).
If your party platform embraces wealth limitation, then I will support it. No amount of social programs or congressional corruption control will work as long as you envy and/or allow an elite predatory rich class to exist. That's the ONLY solution that doesn't kick the can down the road. I don't mean to be insulting, but the "American dream" must be shown up as the rich envy bullshit that it is. If we can't "go there", we're defeated before we start. We must impoverish the rich or be destroyed, period.
If a majority of Americans support wealth limitation, that's fine. For now, I'm sticking with drawing in a majority of voters. We can go from there. I agree, we do need wealth limitation, but people may need some education before we can get there. What I have been able to determine with research is that a majority of Americans want government support for public programs, but don't want to cap the incomes of the rich, even while they find salaries of $20 million or more obscene. They do favor taxing them more heavily. Contradictory, but I can only say the state of American consciousness is a work in progress. I am realizing creating change requires patience, and if we insist on an all or nothing proposition we will end up with nothing.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Main Street isn't about elitism. There may be the Joe the Plumbers on Main Street who will be foolish enough to fall for Wall Street worshipping and even fighting their own brothers and sisters on Main Street while there are rich people who aren't selfish but actually willing to help the poor and the betrodden and use their wealth to fund better schools, communities, etc ... I don't believe in impoverishing all wealthy people but instead pushing for policies that will prevent the rich from getting obscenely rich in the long run. We can impoverish one set of rich people but if another takes its place and will often be ready to do so, then again we're also doomed from the start. Judging from her party's platform, big business and the rich would be kept in reasonable control. I have talked to a few neighbors of mine about her idea of a Main Street Party and without discussing social issues, most of them were kind to it. There were a few obnoxious folks still continuing their typical rightwing shouting similar to what Benn_Miller described in his encounters on this site but otherwise, it's worth noting that we need a genuine Main Street Party and this is a strong start. MS could use a Main Street Party for a change. What has focusing on social issues such as race, same sex, abortion, patriotism, etc ... done for us? The only thing social issues have done to the right and the left is stir up the hardline partisans while making it too easy to forget about the real issues which the Main Street Party will attempt to remind us of. Let's give the Main Street Party a chance. What do you have to lose?
"Let's give the Main Street Party a chance. What do you have to lose?"
For one thing, getting shouted "commie" in my face again. Now that's something I'd love to lose. :)
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
$25,000 equals ten weeks of Erbitux - used to treat cancer
Treatment for one cancer patient is a small price to pay for access to the power elite.
And, by the way, what was "Marie Antoinette" Weymouth going to do with the hundreds of thousands of dollars she received?
Buy more impressionist paintings or buy more lobbyists.
Let them eat cake .....
Katharine Weymouth got caught. I'm sure she learned that next time she needs to be a bit more on the QT with this kind of influence peddling.
I'm sorry to wax nostalgic but once upon a time the washington Post actually stood for good journalism. Now it's just party line bs.
the information about the meeting was disclosed prematurely - we don't have the list od the healthtakers
edweg
Do polls really matter any more? In reality, the answer is no. It does not seem to matter how many emails, letters, and phone calls we give those in power. They don't seem to want to listen. Money is all they care about and so they'll only listen to those with the most money. The other day on Bernard Sanders's article on health care reform, Marco Nanto raised an excellent question on why there are only 40,000 letters even when there are 47 million and counting uninsured. I also got to read yesterday's comments on the issue and a guy named Benn_Miller even told us his experience trying to convince even the poor to understand single payer health care only to get shouted at and pied. David Lindorff, as always, gives his elitist and condescending response and maybe that's what's wrong with the progressives on the top. They are looked at as the "select few" in a negative light. Maybe the poor man who threw a pie in Benn_Miller's face was put through so much pain and suffering that he mistook BM as a "threat". I have met sadistic rightwingers who can be rich or poor but even when they appear to have fun showing their anger in the form of shouting and physical abuse, deep down they must be unhappy and having a sense of feeling left out. Perhaps we ordinary progressives who don't have the time or money as those at the top do need to find better ways to first unite, understand and respect one another, and be more like community rather than staying isolated and expecting a pol to read let alone listen to a large number of incoming requests for health care reform. From there, we might find better strategies of forcing the pols to actually listen to our needs rather than continue to lie and bully us. I don't know all the solutions but there needs to be some united efforts.
Jennifer,
"It does not seem to matter how many emails, letters, and phone calls we give those in power. They don't seem to want to listen."
I agree. For years, I have been sending letters, via e-mail and the Post Office, making phone calls, signing petitions, etc., to no avail. If I receive replies, the replies have nothing to do with my concerns, and they do not answer any of my questions. In addition, no matter how big the protests and rallies are, my representatives always tell us that we are not enough They choose not to listen!
"Perhaps we ordinary progressives who don't have the time or money as those at the top do need to find better ways to first unite, understand and respect one another, and be more like community rather than staying isolated and expecting a pol to read let alone listen to a large number of incoming requests for health care reform."
It seems to me that the entire system is so tainted that I have to wonder if we can ever really have reform. Breaking completely with the system might be the only way. However, I'm not sure how to go about this breaking away, e.g. -- into some kind of co-ops, or something like co-ops.
If we continue to communicate, maybe our ideas and thoughts will take some kind of viable and actionable form.
I can see why some people fear breaking the system might lead to chaos. Building a new system from scratch can be a great unknown and that could be something to fear. I think that there are a lot of great ideas on this site that can do either or both repair or start anew. Ah but then again, it's hard to know which to pick. Hence, the great unknown but this challenge I accept.
Jennifer,
I don't know Mr. Lindorff myself but I found him to be a blatant hypocrite for criticizing elohim for pointing out the obvious and yet using the same kinds of attacks against me and even posting with vulgar language. I have come across a lot of violent hardcore Obama supporters who are no different in their behavior and attitude from the rightwing hicks. BeForKids introduced the Main Street Party and today she has given more info on it. Maybe this new party and platform will prove to be an eyeopener for even the staunchest rightwingers and Obama supporters.
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
Benn, that was a sad spectacle yesterday with the Lindorf article. His belligerent criticism of you and others was undeserving. You kept your cool and I admire that.
rebelnow, thanks. Impatience can run in all sides. When one puts up with one impatient group, getting used to another can't be too hard to do. I cannot understand what Lindorff really wants anyway. If he's not for real and he gets exposed for it, well I can now see why he's like the rest of the violent faction of hardcore Obama supporters.
Bennett Miller
Shreveport, LA
Could It Be Any More Obvious That There Is No Alternative?
"To Capitalism?"
"No, to our rising up en masse."
"And then what sort of world?"
"It'll be up to us."
"Otherwise?'
"Doomsday."
"Based on?"
"Perpetual war + global warming + economic collapse."
Yes, Concerned, I like your sum-up: "truth (and action) for all, ever profit for the few, for survivals sake".
What are your ideas about HOW to do this? I believe we need to persist with THIS question.
Do you, or others, think there is any inspiration, validity, with the tidal wave of not letting go, but persisting against all odds, on the push for single-payer (as elaborated on in my last comment)?
Thanks for considering.
What these decision makers are not taking into consideration, is the reality that the common trusting people in our country are trying to stay afloat on a sea of hopelessness. Trillions going to support endless war and the rich corporations, whoever they are, joblessness, fear, and propaganda... they are still in denial...for the time being. When, and if, 'the great awakening' somehow miraculously occurs, despite the great stupor that most find themselves in, there will be unrest amongst the population on a scale never seen before. It is time NOW to avert that disaster, with our representatives taking Peoples needs into consideration first, health, jobs that contribute to a cleaner planet, education to enlighten minds to such attributes as personal responsibility, equality, and mindfullness of our surroundings and all that entails. If we cannot accomplish this, maybe we do deserve extinction. It all seems forthright and obvious to me, truth (and action) for all, over profit for the few, for survivals sake.
This an old, old story. Ever since there have been poor people the rich have found some way to divide and conquer them.
What is a middle class but a bunch of poor workers who the rich have selected to manage the poor: mill workers, farm hands, store clerks, become teachers, police, firemen, social workers and are given just enough more than the poor to think of themselves as being in the same class as their their masters.
It works every time. Frankle, in MAN'S SEARCH FOR MEANING, Where all prisoners were Jews, tells about a few prisoners being given the 'honor' of guarding the other prisoners. They were called Capos, and were by far the most brutal and pitiless of all guards, including the SS. The harder the Capos beat their fellow Jews, the more they identified with those in power.
In the antebellum south the few rich farmers knew they stood no chance against the masses of the poor. It was easy. The poor whites were given a few acres and a mule and told how much better the white race was compared to the black. Just being white made them worth something.
To protect the white race (especially women) against the black race, dirt poor whites fought and died to prove they were like the important rich---died by the thousands to protect a plantation they had never had and never would have.
How desperate we are to be told we are important. How stupidly we take the side of the strong against the weak. How pitifully we struggle to maintain our illusions. We are all Americans. How eagerly our poor kill the poor in other countries for the sake of being called patriots of the greatest nation on earth.
I'm sorry, but it's time to stop honoring war heroes. They are victims of a lie that keep the rich all over the world rich and further impoverish the poor. I'm sorry for the price they pay, but they are professional killers who work for a fraction of what mercenaries earn.
For the flag, for God, for the American way, for their families, they die by the thousands. They die because they believe a lie.
Thank you for mentioning my favorite philosopher Viktor Frankl. If anyone out there has been meaning to give "Mankind's Search for Meaning" a read and hasn't, STOP what you are doing, pick it up and read it through. It is not that large a book, though it demands a lot of the reader, both short and long term. It will change your life and help you guide others especially the young. I hesitate to write more because it would keep you from the much more eloquent and helpful Mr. Frankl.
"I'm sorry for the price they pay, but they are professional killers who work for a fraction of what mercenaries earn."
I was with you until this sentence. Actually, it may be true in a sense, but you shouldn't stop there. If the soldiers we send to kill, do so, then who do they kill for?
If we are to be honest (and isn't it called for, at long last?), then we simply must look into that long-feared mirror. They kill and die for us. They kill and die for our "way of life," our "standard of living." And aren't we all living a certain standard of living that is unnatural and way above sustainable?
We are all part of this heinous story, and we must share the blame, as well as the solutions. Soldiers are soldiers for many reasons, least of all for patriotism. Most are young, many are poor, all are deluded. Does the fault lie only with them? I think not.
That my friend is exactly what I've been saying for years.
America must break its chains to militarism. All else will follow.
NIETZSCHE,
That was awesome . . . especially your last two paragraphs.
Excelent!
Excellent points - the middle-class people you are describing have been called the "coordinator class" by the Pareconists. But the concept isn't too different from the old "petit-bourgeois".
Either way, I have been alarmed for a while how politicians and even union activists go on-and-on about saving the "middle class". Kind of confusing because if they are really facing personal economic hardship - they would no longer be middle class, wouldn't they? They would be poor. But the phrase "the poor" NEVER leaves the lips of a politician or union activist anymore. Hmmmm... perhaps all this stuff about helping the "middle class" is actually code-language for making sure the rich have enough allies among the people who manage the poor.
Nietzsche, that was a GREAT post. Empires - past and present - cannot be built and sustained without local accomplices. 'Natives' with a bit of education saw themselves as superior while working for the colonial master. Today, the same 'natives' in many countries consider working for a multinational corporation as a great badge of honor, all the while collaborating in the demise of domestic industries, agriculture and culture. Listening to right wing talk radio and TV would show that many more 'Joe the Plumber's are being created and sustained, who keep defending the current system in the hope that they too would become rich, with an 'estate' to leave behind, someday.
We should also note that half the country has been propagandized into thinking themselves the natural corporate superiors of the other half. Just keep the nose to the grindstone, and it'll all come true. For its part, the modern corporation recognizes and promotes these corporate enablers. And, overall, everyone's value drops, because they are all so busy competing amongst themselves that they don't notice the guys at the corner office lighting up stogies.
Nietzsche July 11th, 2009 2:01 pm..............Precisely and well said! I honor your mind to speak the truth.
Yeah, that was an important insight.
Gangsters on the take. Obama must have choked giving Africans a lecture about governmental corruption.
It's all Grand Kabuki, my friend.
From the article,
"Nothing will change--nothing--until the money lenders are tossed out of the temple, the ATM's are wrested from the marble halls, and we tear down the sign they've placed on government--the one that reads "For Sale."
Can someone tell me where the front line in this battle is? I've been walking around and asking and no one knows. I'm ready, I'm fired up, the adrenaline is rushing, but I don't have a damn clue as to where to go.
For starters, you can come to DC on July 30.
http://www.healthcare-now.org/campaigns/single-payer-rally/
or Pittsburgh for the G-20 Summit on Sept. 24 and 25.
http://organizepittsburgh.org/
See my post above yours.
The way to connect is starting on blogs like this. Then we begin emailing each other to brainstorm and nail down the particulars. When we are ready there is a launching pad for a designated action. Let's start now. Email me.
Yes, Rebelnow, that is the BIG QUESTION! Only let's call it something other than a battle -- a movement, a shift, a majority, a force, a wave for the future. . . ?
Perhaps one part of the answer is to start by getting involved, actively, with groups that ARE making a difference.
There is some wisdom in the commenter who suggested we keep pushing for SINGLE PAYER also. It represents a specific point where we can keep sounding the needs/wants of the people -- against all odds perhaps, but our voices unsilenced, magnified and exposing the corruption for all to see. Think if that megaphone grew so loud, so ubiqutious that SOMETHING HAD TO SHIFT, and with it, the whole system began to rock off it's horribly corrupt foundation.
The more I think about this idea, the more I like it. We can all take action every day by calling, writing, speaking, informing. Our congresspeople would notice the maelstrom; the people's energy would permeate the rotten system.
We somehow need to precipitate a SHIFT IN THE SYSTEM.
I'm not sure why I feel that single-payer may be the issue that could help do that.
Maybe it is because it so completely exemplifies our entire profit-driven system.
Or, maybe it's because the issue is so personally close to every American, affecting lives, families, and our psychological, mental well-being (or lack thereof) everyday, every month, every year endlessly.
Perhaps it is because the reality between those who are "deciding" about our healthcare, our representatives, and our own situation is in START CONTRAST: they have completely secure, high-quality, unquestioned healthcare for their & their families lifetimes.
Let's together consider if this is an idea to push, to network -- a first step perhaps to feel the people's power of pushback.
dakinirise,
I think you have verbalized the intensity I and others have felt about our overall political and social situation being epitomized by the Single Payer HealthCare issue. As a result, until it is passed it will be the focus of my political efforts. As you say, in my small town it is something everybody can relate to, easy to get all to coalesce around, well except the school bus driver that sells individual medical policies on the side. And with her daughter's horrific asthma problems, too....
Both sides of the aisles here can't take it anymore. We're in the middle of an autism belt and even Republican legislators family's are affected by this. Our school districts are all broke from no one being able to pick up the insurance companies' tab for this. The families, don't get me started on that. It is heartbreaking, and the insurance companies are all saying," this isn't a health condition." So that's why the CDC is here studying this specific region? It isn't a health condition? Is that why the children need physical, occupational, speech, audio therapies? Is that why the co-morbidity of allergies is off the chart? In our district, we have between 12-21 children per class and each grade level in our elementary school of 300 is about 40. We have at least one autistic student per grade level and in grades 5K, 1st,and 3rd 2 students and in 4th grade, 4 students. That is just one serious, chronic long term health condition occurring to devastate our community of 2300. That doesn't count all the other heart, asthma, diabetes, cancer treatment stripping our community of its material assets.
The best part of CD is knowing we are not alone. Push Single Payer Healthcare every possible opening you get and if someone says, "affordable" or "insurance" or "access" let them have it with both proverbial barrels.
dakinirise July 11th, 2009 2:15 pm ............. I think you have hit it. I have felt the same way for quite a while now. When you speak to many people, regardless of their politics, they are very passionate over this issue. Could be the general public has reached a tipping point. I, for one, think the truth of 9/11 will be revealed upon a new investigation that NYC CAN is initiating. With the healthcare issue and the truth of 9/11, we will be well over the tipping point. Citizens are finally FED UP and ready to rumble.
Run ,do not walk, as fast and as far away from this sick, catch 22 (corporate personhood) system as you can.
As in Martial Arts the weight of the ill intent of the corrupt system will cause its own collapse.
Opposition only reinvigorates the monster.
The sad part is how many people will die and suffer before the system self destructs.
"Run ,do not walk, as fast and as far away from this sick, catch 22 (corporate personhood) system as you can."
How does one run, or even walk, away from a system we are all living in? Opposition may not work (and I'm not convinced of that), but non-involvement, to the best of our abilities, would work. If only we could figure out how to disconnect our involvement.