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Obama and Habeas Corpus -- Then and Now
It was once the case under the Bush administration that the U.S. would abduct people from around the world, accuse them of being Terrorists, ship them to Guantanamo, and then keep them there for as long as we wanted without offering them any real due process to contest the accusations against them. That due-process-denying framework was legalized by the Military Commissions Act of 2006. Many Democrats -- including Barack Obama -- claimed they were vehemently opposed to this denial of due process for detainees, and on June 12, 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court, in the case of Boumediene v. Bush, ruled that the denial of habeas corpus rights to Guantanamo detainees was unconstitutional and that all Guantanamo detainees have the right to a full hearing in which they can contest their accusations against them.
In the wake of the Boumediene ruling, the U.S. Government wanted to preserve the power to abduct people from around the world and bring them to American prisons without having to provide them any due process. So, instead of bringing them to our Guantanamo prison camp (where, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled, they were entitled to habeas hearings), the Bush administration would instead simply send them to our prison camp in Bagram, Afghanistan, and then argue that because they were flown to Bagram rather than Guantanamo, they had no rights of any kind and Boudemiene didn't apply to them. The Bush DOJ treated the Boumediene ruling, grounded in our most basic constitutional guarantees, as though it was some sort of a silly game -- fly your abducted prisoners to Guantanamo and they have constitutional rights, but fly them instead to Bagram and you can disappear them forever with no judicial process. Put another way, you just close Guantanamo, move it to Afghanistan, and -- presto -- all constitutional obligations disappear.
Back in February, the Obama administration shocked many civil libertarians by filing a brief in federal court that, in two sentences, declared that it embraced the most extremist Bush theory on this issue -- the Obama DOJ argued, as The New York Times's Charlie Savage put it, "that military detainees in Afghanistan have no legal right to challenge their imprisonment there, embracing a key argument of former President Bush's legal team." Remember: these are not prisoners captured in Afghanistan on a battlefield. Many of them have nothing to do with Afghanistan and were captured far, far away from that country -- abducted from their homes and workplaces -- and then flown to Bagram to be imprisoned. Indeed, the Bagram detainees in the particular case in which the Obama DOJ filed its brief were Yemenis and Tunisians captured outside of Afghanistan (in Thailand or the UAE, for instance) and then flown to Bagram and locked away there as much as six years without any charges. That is what the Obama DOJ defended, and they argued that those individuals can be imprisoned indefinitely with no rights of any kind -- as long as they are kept in Bagram rather than Guantanamo.
Last month, a federal judge emphatically rejected the Bush/Obama position and held that the rationale of Boudemiene applies every bit as much to Guantanamo as it does to Bagram. Notably, the district judge who so ruled -- John Bates -- is an appointee of George W. Bush, a former Whitewater prosecutor, and a very pro-executive-power judge. In his decision (.pdf), Judge Bates made clear how identical are the constitutional rights of detainees flown to Guantanamo and Bagram and underscored how dangerous is the Bush/Obama claim that the President has the right to abduct people from around the world and imprison them at Bagram with no due process of any kind (click image to enlarge):
As Judge Bates noted, the prisoners shipped to Bagram actually have even fewer rights than the Guantanamo detainees did prior to Boudemiene, because at least the latter were given a sham Pentagon review (the CSRT tribunal), whereas the U.S. Government -- under both Bush and Obama -- maintain that Bagram prisoners have no rights of any kind.
In the wake of Judge Bates' ruling that foreign detainees shipped to Bagram at least have the right to a hearing to determine their guilt, what is the Obama DOJ doing? This:
The Obama administration said Friday that it would appeal a district court ruling that granted some military prisoners in Afghanistan the right to file lawsuits seeking their release. The decision signaled that the administration was not backing down in its effort to maintain the power to imprison terrorism suspects for extended periods without judicial oversight. . . .
Tina Foster, the executive director of the International Justice Network, which is representing the detainees, condemned the decision in a statement.
"Though he has made many promises regarding the need for our country to rejoin the world community of nations, by filing this appeal, President Obama has taken on the defense of one of the Bush administration's unlawful policies founded on nothing more than the idea that might makes right," she said.
Last month, I interviewed the ACLU's Jonathan Hafetz, counsel to several of the Bagram detainees, who said:
What happened was, these people were picked up in this global war on terror, were brought to Guantanamo in 2004, and once Guantanamo became subject to habeas corpus review, the administration basically, the Bush administration stopped bringing people there, and started bringing them to Bagram, and Bagram's population has shot up, and it's become in some sense the new Guantanamo. . . . And so what you have is you have a situation where the Bush administration, was free to, and the Obama administration will continue to be free to, create a prison outside the law.
The Obama DOJ is now squarely to the Right of an extremely conservative, pro-executive-power, Bush 43-appointed judge on issues of executive power and due-process-less detentions. Leave aside for the moment the issue of whether you believe that the U.S. Government should have the right to abduct people anywhere in the world, ship them to faraway prisons and hold them there indefinitely without charges or any rights at all. The Bush DOJ -- and now the Obama DOJ -- maintain the President does and should have that right, and that's an issue that has been extensively debated. It was, after all, one of the centerpieces of the Bush regime of radicalism, lawlessness and extremism.
Consider, instead, what Barack Obama -- before he became Persident -- repeatedly claimed to believe about these issues. The Supreme Court's Boudemiene ruling was issued at the height of the presidential campaign, and while John McCain condemned it as "one of the worst decisions in the history of this country," here is what Obama said about it in a statement he issued on the day of the ruling:
Today's Supreme Court decision ensures that we can protect our nation and bring terrorists to justice, while also protecting our core values. The Court's decision is a rejection of the Bush Administration's attempt to create a legal black hole at Guantanamo - yet another failed policy supported by John McCain. This is an important step toward reestablishing our credibility as a nation committed to the rule of law, and rejecting a false choice between fighting terrorism and respecting habeas corpus. Our courts have employed habeas corpus with rigor and fairness for more than two centuries, and we must continue to do so as we defend the freedom that violent extremists seek to destroy.
My, what a ringing and inspiring defense of habeas corpus that was from candidate Barack Obama. So moving and eloquent and passionate. And that George W. Bush sure was an awful tyrant for trying to "create a legal black hole at Guantanamo" -- apparently, all Good People devoted to a restoration of the rule of law and the Constitution know that the place where the U.S. should "create a legal black hole" for abducted detainees is Bagram, not Guantanamo. What a fundamental difference that is.
Even worse, here is what Obama said on the floor of the Senate in September, 2006 when he argued in favor of an amendment to the Military Commissions Act that would have restored habeas corpus rights to Guantanamo detainees. I defy anyone to read this and reconcile what he said then to what he is doing now:
The bottom line is this: Current procedures under the CSRT are such that a perfectly innocent individual could be held and could not rebut the Government's case and has no way of proving his innocence.
I would like somebody in this Chamber, somebody in this Government, to tell me why this is necessary. I do not want to hear that this is a new world and we face a new kind of enemy. I know that. . . . But as a parent, I can also imagine the terror I would feel if one of my family members were rounded up in the middle of the night and sent to Guantanamo without even getting one chance to ask why they were being held and being able to prove their innocence.
This is not just an entirely fictional scenario, by the way. We have already had reports by the CIA and various generals over the last few years saying that many of the detainees at Guantanamo should not have been there. As one U.S. commander of Guantanamo told the Wall Street Journal:
"Sometimes, we just didn't get the right folks."
We all know about the recent case of the Canadian man who was suspected of terrorist connections, detained in New York, sent to Syria--through a rendition agreement--tortured, only to find out later it was all a case of mistaken identity and poor information. . . .
This is an extraordinarily difficult war we are prosecuting against terrorists. There are going to be situations in which we cast too wide a net and capture the wrong person. . . .
But what is avoidable is refusing to ever allow our legal system to correct these mistakes. By giving suspects a chance--even one chance--to challenge the terms of their detention in court, to have a judge confirm that the Government has detained the right person for the right suspicions, we could solve this problem without harming our efforts in the war on terror one bit. . . .
Most of us have been willing to make some sacrifices because we know that, in the end, it helps to make us safer. But restricting somebody's right to challenge their imprisonment indefinitely is not going to make us safer. In fact, recent evidence shows it is probably making us less safe.
In Sunday's New York Times, it was reported that previous drafts of the recently released National Intelligence Estimate, a report of 16 different Government intelligence agencies, describe "actions by the United States Government that were determined to have stoked the jihad movement, like the indefinite detention of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay."
This is not just unhelpful in our fight against terror, it is unnecessary. We don't need to imprison innocent people to win this war. For people who are guilty, we have the procedures in place to lock them up. That is who we are as a people. We do things right, and we do things fair.
Two days ago, every Member of this body received a letter, signed by 35 U.S. diplomats, many of whom served under Republican Presidents. They urged us to reconsider eliminating the rights of habeas corpus from this bill, saying:
"To deny habeas corpus to our detainees can be seen as a prescription for how the captured members of our own military, diplomatic, and NGO personnel stationed abroad may be treated. ..... The Congress has every duty to insure their protection, and to avoid anything which will be taken as a justification, even by the most disturbed minds, that arbitrary arrest is the acceptable norm of the day in the relations between nations, and that judicial inquiry is an antique, trivial and dispensable luxury."
The world is watching what we do today in America. They will know what we do here today, and they will treat all of us accordingly in the future--our soldiers, our diplomats, our journalists, anybody who travels beyond these borders. I hope we remember this as we go forward. I sincerely hope we can protect what has been called the "great writ" -- a writ that has been in place in the Anglo-American legal system for over 700 years.
Mr. President, this should not be a difficult vote. I hope we pass this amendment because I think it is the only way to make sure this underlying bill preserves all the great traditions of our legal system and our way of life.
I yield the floor.
So that Barack Obama -- the one trying to convince Democrats to make him their nominee and then their President -- said that abducting people and imprisoning them without charges was (a) un-American; (b) tyrannical; (c) unnecessary to fight Terrorism; (d) a potent means for stoking anti-Americanism and fueling Terrorism; (e) a means of endangering captured American troops, Americans traveling abroad and Amerians generally; and (f) a violent betrayal of core, centuries-old Western principles of justice. But today's Barack Obama, safely ensconsed in the White House, fights tooth and nail to preserve his power to do exactly that.
I'm not searching for ways to criticize Obama. I wish I could be writing paeans celebrating the restoration of the Constitution and the rule of law. But these actions -- these contradictions between what he said and what he is doing, the embrace of the very powers that caused so much anger towards Bush/Cheney -- are so blatant, so transparent, so extreme, that the only way to avoid noticing them is to purposely shut your eyes as tightly as possible and resolve that you don't want to see it, or that you're so convinced of his intrinsic Goodness that you'll just believe that even when it seems like he's doing bad things, he must really be doing them for the Good. If there was any unanimous progressive consensus over the last eight years, it was that the President does not have the power to kidnap people, ship them far away, and then imprison them indefinitely in a cage without due process. Has that progressive consensus changed as of January 20, 2009? I think we're going to find out.
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On a related note, the Columbia Journalism Review has a very interesting article tracing the origins of the "Obama/state secrets" controversy of the last week, documenting how it became a scandal, and examining which media outlets have and -- more importantly have been ignoring it.
UPDATE: One of the things I always found so striking about debates over Bush/Cheney executive power abuses was that Bush followers who admittedly had no substantive arguments to justify those actions would nonetheless still find reasons to defend their admired leader: Bush knows more than we do and probably has secret reasons for doing it. Bush is a good person and well-motivated and there's no reason to think he's doing bad or abusive things. Rights for Terrorists pale in comparsion to other more important issues. Republican critics of Bush are hysterics and paranoids who are only criticizing him because they want to get on TV and sell books.
As of January 20, 2009, one no longer finds those claims at National Review, Weekly Standard, right-wing blogs and the like, but instead, finds them commonly expressed in Obama-defending venues and some liberal blogs. Scan the comment section to John Cole's post criticizing Obama's Bagram position to see how frequently this mindset is now expressed to justify whatever Obama does -- these are just a representative sample of actual quotes:
- it seems much more plausible to me that Greenwald simply doesn't have access to the same facts the current DOJ does;
- None of us have seen the actual case files and can make informed judgments about whether revealing the relevant information in particular cases would actually pose a threat to national security. That applies equally to Greenwald, and he must know that; it makes his rant silly and intellectually dishonest;
- But Obama picks his battles. You can be upset that he hasn't chosen to make this one of them (I am too), but I'm not sure that it's necessarily on the same plane as the economy, health care, energy independence, etc.;
- look at Obama and tell us if you see a man who is interested in some kind of imperial all-powerful, unchecked presidency. what in his background, his demeanor or his other actions make you think he's that kind of guy ? what does your gut tell you about him? he's a power-hungry authoritarian who is seeking to grab as much power as he can ? bullshit.
- I guess Glenzilla will end up on the cover of Newsweek and have an appearance on Morning Joe soon since he has now said effectively that President Obama is worse than Bush but he is just about to over play his normally spot on hand with his rhetoric;
- Let's also keep in mind here that one of Greenwald's jobs is to get people to read his blog. It's not like he's doing this for Salon pro-bono.
It goes on and on like that (with a fair number of comments who disagree). My response to all of it is here. And Cole commenter Mary adds some important thoughts here.
Most amazing is that the specific comment which John cut and pasted into his post (without approving of it) actually claims that a reading of the Obama DOJ's brief (here - .pdf) somehow doesn't constitute support for Bush's position even though (a) the Obama DOJ filed a 2-sentence brief in February saying they support the Bush/Cheney position in full; (b) the principal point of the new Brief is to argue that the District Judge was wrong to reject the Bush/Cheney position that Bagram detainees have no rights of any kind; and (c) the Brief repeatedly asserts pure, defining Addington/Yoo propositions about the unchallengeable power of the President to make decisions about detainees.
To recap: Obama files a brief saying he agrees in full with the Bush/Cheney position. He's arguing that the President has the power to abduct, transport and imprison people in Bagram indefinitely with no charges of any kind. He's telling courts that they have no authority to "second-guess" his decisions when it comes to war powers. But this is all totally different than what Bush did, and anyone who says otherwise is a reckless, ill-motivated hysteric who just wants to sell books and get on TV.




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Show AllWell, Mr. Greenwald most people in this country do have their eye's shut as tight as possible, studiously repeating the mantra "Obama is good. Obama is good..." He wouldn't do anything bad to those folks out there! He wouldn't help the wall street criminals steal out money...even though he is has formed a partnership with the very banskters that got us into this financial debacle in the first place. Oh No! He just wouldn't do it...just like the Bush/Cheney cabal wouldn't lie to us to get us into a war!! Come on people, these are our heroic leaders who stand tall on moral and ethical principles and work night and day for the welfare and security of not only the US citizens but for all the people around the planet that are under the blessed protection of the benevolent US government.
I wonder how the US citizens would feel if Russia or China adopted the same policy and started abducting people at will all over the world without habeus corpus protections. Hey, maybe all the countries should be allowed to do that! In this way we would get rid of all the terrorists. Great! Obama! Lead the way!!
Exactly ! Last year, it was obvious that Barry would continue Dubya's Orwellian hell. Even today, the Obamabots are in denial mode about it. If China or Russia were doing this, then suddenly those nations are labelled as the "bad guy".
People don't like to admit to themselves that they've been conned. It's too painful.
"I'm not searching for ways to criticize Obama. I wish I could be writing paeans celebrating the restoration of the Constitution and the rule of law. But these actions -- these contradictions between what he said and what he is doing, the embrace of the very powers that caused so much anger towards Bush/Cheney -- are so blatant, so transparent, so extreme, that the only way to avoid noticing them is to purposely shut your eyes as tightly as possible and resolve that you don't want to see it, or that you're so convinced of his intrinsic Goodness that you'll just believe that even when it seems like he's doing bad things, he must really be doing them for the Good."
It is time to declare - "THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!"
Sioux Rose
Thank you, Mr. Greenwald for keeping score of the actual record. In our Orwellian MSM no doubt every manner of "twist and shout" will emerge to try to obscure Obama's position as a candidate in relation to his position now, transformed as it seems by occupancy in the oval office.
Years ago Rod Serling had a Twilight Zone episode entitled, "The Transformation." In the futuristic society he depicted, everyone would benefit from scientific breakthroughs that overcame disease and aging. The snag? At the appropriate age (16 I believe) the individual would "choose their model" from two cyborg-like designs. The story follows a young woman who managed to be well-read (coming from a family that retained secreted copies of important now banned books) and argued for her own personal identity. She did all that she could to avoid the doctors awaiting her passage through the transformation procedure. Abducted, the young woman emerged to look in the mirror and seeing her new design it was as if her mind was erased with it. She sounded like a robot (or Stepford wife) saying, "I am beautiful."
Maybe a related procedure takes place in the Oval Office? Could that explain Obama's transition? (I am being tongue-in-cheek here.)
Sioux Rose says: "Maybe a related procedure takes place in the Oval Office? Could that explain Obama's transition?"
Maybe information is learned that requires far-away cages for various, anonymous canaries, whose rights of habeus corpus must be denied in order to keep them from singing? ... and perhaps eventually "disappeared."
Three documents listed:
www.scribd.com/people/documents/2169400-ep-heidner?popular=1
The two shorter forms of the three that might shed some light [Haven't read the longer one yet]:
www.scribd.com/doc/9423598/September-11-Commission-Report-Revised-December-008
www.scribd.com/doc/9421535/Collateral-Damage-Part-2-The-Subprime-Crisis-and-the-Terrorist-Attacks-on-September-11-200126122008
GOLDFINGER IS ALIVE & WELL.
peace, cm
Between the effects of power, no doubt some lectures from some EHMs (see John Perkins), and the simple fact that Washington D.C. is a bubble designed to keep the chief Exec safely away from reality, no doubt what really happens is a lot like somebody tripping through the Twilight Zone.
What's PUMA for "I told you so"?
If these actions on the part of the US Government were wrong in 2006 then they are wrong today. If they are wrong today then they will be wrong in 2011.
In other words for those who keep suggesting that Obama needs two years before he can be judged.....WHY?
Sanity can be defined as follows: "The psychic task which a person can and must set for himself, is not to feel secure, but to be able to tolerate insecurity, without panic and undue fear." - Erich Fromm, The Sane Society.
The torture and rendition policy instituted by the Bush regime and thoroughly endorsed by Obama represents an obsession with security that is the psychological opposite of sanity. To be free means to be insecure, just as the thinking man is by necessity uncertain. When the risk of insecurity becomes intolerable we are willing to torture and maim others to maintain the illusion of security no matter the cost to our humanity. Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
"How does peace come about?...Through the big banks, through money? Or through universal peaceful rearmament in order to guarantee peace? Through none of these, for the single reason that in all of them peace is confused with safety. There is no way to peace along the way of safety. For peace must be dared. It is the great venture. It can never be safe. Peace is the opposite of security. To demand guarantees is to mistrust, and this mistrust in turn brings forth war. To look for guarantees is to want to protect oneself. Peace means to give oneself altogether to the law of God, wanting no security, but in faith and obedience laying the destiny of the nations in the hand of Almighty God, not trying to direct it for selfish purposes. Battles are won, not with weapons, but with God. They are won where the way leads to the cross. Which of us can say he or she knows what it might mean for the world if one nation should meet the aggressor, not with weapons in hand, but praying, defenseless and for that very reason protected by 'a bulwark never failing'." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, "The Church and the People of the World"
But clearly this is not the peace which Obama, tragically repudiating his own best instincts, aims for. "The United States has formally adopted the Geneva Conventions and the Convention Against Torture; they are not some kind of 'foreign devilment' messing with our sacred sovereignty: they are the law of the land. But it is clear that the Obama Administration does not have and never had the slightest intention of obeying the law and instigating the required investigations and prosecutions of the high crime -- the capital crime -- of ordering and committing torture. And the reason for this refusal is also clear: the Obama Administration wants to retain the power to torture, to conduct 'paramilitary operations' with secret armies and single assassins, to carry out mass, illegal surveillance of the population with no legal accountability, to do 'whatever it takes' to keep the machine of war and domination churning at full strength. That is why they have retained apparatchiks like Kappes and Sulick; that is why they are not only defending the Bush gang's egregious assertions of authoritarian power, but are actually seeking to expand them, as Glenn Greenwald and others have detailed." Chris Floyd, "Hope Abandoned", April 10, 2009.
Sioux Rose
BOYD: There is a parallel to the interesting points you raise, and I would call it the law of spiritual economy. In short, no individual or nation can take (by force) from another what it then claims for itself. These measures in the way of securing security ultimately steal peace from other people and nations. Thus in robbing others of their security, no safe claim can be made for our own.
There is an adage, "The ill-begotten wealth will have to be given back one way or another." In a sense, for all the military carnage and aggressive trade deals that have gotten for the U.S. a disproportionate share of the world's resource pie, it does little to actually improve the quality of life for most US citizens. And therein lies part of the evidence of karma. The vast majority of this wealth is used to guard the nation, now with a literal wall, otherwise with supplies of armaments that 2 decades ago were already substantial enough to KILL everyone living many times over. And yet more is lent to this ungodly and obviously insane cause. And we now see in plain light that our many uniformed domestic warriors can turn on citizens at small provocation. Protest isn't even permitted... not in any meaningful active sense.
The only way to peace is by sharing peace and living in accord with just principles. This is the most cost-effective strategy for a sane world, one where citizens can obtain a modicum of a quality of life. The US has built up a pyramid society with officers anointed by Mammon and Mars at its pinacle. This type of structure cannot hold... particularly now when those at the base forced to carry the weight cannot afford home, food, shelter, or medical care. The forced/false structure(s) built by principles that insult Truth and Liberty are collapsing before our eyes. The printing of monopoly money may work for a short spell, but once the spell wears off, some form of chaos will arise. From there, I am not making any predictions. People can choose to survive together or aim their anger at one another... and given the conditioning of US society through false religions and a worship of guns, it's hard for me to feel positive about the short term outcome.
Sioux Rose .... read the information I listed in reply to your first post. My instincts are that somehow this fits, including regarding what you said above.
Vladimir Putin suggested a few weeks ago that all currency return to a Gold Standard. He is a very smart and savvy man who knows the many twists and turns, especially since he brought bankrupt Russia back from the help received from Friedman's Chicago boys and their Shock Doctrine during the Yeltsin period. ... His statement tweaked my intuition too in regards to the links I provided. Flush 'em out.
The love of money is the root of all evil and all that ...
peace, cm
Sioux Rose
CEE MIRACLES: I was impressed with him, too. Putin's words seemed to speak on a more humane global level for a world where human resources were valued, and currency not allowed to spike and tank as is the case now.
Thanks much for your thoughtful comment. I always look forward to reading your comments. A recent posting in the Nonviolent Jesus blog (http://nonviolentjesus.blogspot.com) may serve as a harmonious response to your posting:
"How just it seems that we should be reduced to the same status as those we have exploited these many centuries. How proper that those among us who share the name of Christian should share the fate of the wretched of the earth."
What I see that is that our obsession with security at all costs - economic and military security - has resulted in the same weapons that we have used on other peoples - debt slavery, invasion, colonialism, death squads and so on - now being used on us. By tolerating these methods, we have positioned ourselves to become the victims of them.
The key point for progressives to realize in the current situation is that the Obama administration simply represents a relabeling strategy. The ruling elite have decided to respond to declining economic power by military force. They've also decided to openly ratify all the instruments of oppression (torture, assassination, collective punishment) that were considered uncivilized until recently.
These instruments will not be reserved for foreign nationals only, but will be used on American dissidents as well. Clearly preparations are in the works to respond to widespread social unrest caused by the financial crisis and the massive inflation likely to follow. Obama's implicit endorsement of torture and rendition are necessary so that these weapons will be available when the time comes to target anyone who questions the current corporate takeover.
Sioux Rose
BOYD: Your articulation and prescience are right on. I wish ithey were not! Did you read "The Shock Doctrine"? It really seems these other nations were the warm-up for techniques and "proven tactics" that are now being worked on the American public. All the masters taught lessons precisely to avoid these outcomes, but the greatest evil of all may well be deception. Even in prophecy it was related that the wolf would come in sheep's clothing. While the masses sang their hosannas in churches and believed in the integrity of their leaders, every decent law got swept away, and the uniformed class was empowered to turn its weapons on its own. Loss, lack and hunger become powerful primal motivators. For all the ugliness of human nature that Americans have consumed as their daily entertainment fare, how many of us can live sanely seeing IT practiced in our midst?
I very much appreciate your well-considered posts.
It's so interesting that you mention the "Shock Doctrine". That book was formative for me. What Naomi Klein did was to synthesize forty years of political practice into a coherent theory that convincingly demonstrated the motivations and practice behind neoliberalism. What I most admire about it is how it brings together many elements that had long been known but that had never been woven together to clarify the details of their shock strategy. Naomi's recent columns on the financial crisis use it as a classic case study of economic shock therapy. It appears to me that the entire crisis was manufactured with at least two purposes: 1) to "discipline" the American and European labor forces by eliminating their remaining privileges that stand in the way of higher profit margins: unions, Social Security, Medicare, retirement benefits, First World wage rates and so on; and 2) To heighten the level of fear and panic so as to make colonial military ventures easier to accept. Just as the Third World had unpayable debt burdens imposed on them so as to dictate their political and economic choices, now Western peoples will be forced to submit to a debt that can never be repaid. The elimination of habeas corpus will make it much easier to repress those who refuse to submit. As in Argentina, they will simply disappear.
You might want to take a look at Stephen Lendman's new article "Obama's New World Order" at http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/obamas-new-world-order/ It's directly relevant to the Shock Doctrine analysis of the current crisis. Here's a taste: "Hudson: 'Iceland is under attack — not militarily but financially.' Like many others, 'It owes more than it can pay' and is bankrupt. It was planned that way, and the idea is to strip-mine the nation and its people of their resources, enterprises, assets, land, homes, jobs and futures through perpetual debt bondage. Bankers get enriched. Nations and people, however, are discarded like trash, with the IMF as enforcer, to be reinvigorated with an additional (G 20-pledged) $750 billion, quadrupling its resources to $1 trillion if fulfilled."
The strategy in Iceland is familiar: Elect or appoint a member of a minority group, in Iceland's case a lesbian, to provide the aura of moral validation to economic rape and proceed with stripping the country's assets.
Thanks for your kind words. Your comments help me to see new connections as well.
Sioux Rose
BOYD: Everything you said about Klein's work and thesis I support, and it catalyzed the same reaction in me. Her work is VITAL to understanding what's really underway and how a select body of individuals are wrecking economies and taking populations on a ride through agony to profit their small circle of influential insiders. That this element has utterly taken control of the U.S. government and its affiliates is more frightening than words can begin to describe. What's so craven is how the politicians stand up and give speeches attesting to their concern for America's citizens and her future, when in reality they have sold out to these forces or otherwise just gone along with a massacre that extends way beyond mere (as if it's mere) economic proportions. The levels of sadism and cruelty are hard to fathom since implementing these "Chicago School tactics" has left behind a legacy that evidences its impact, as dire statistics, quite clearly. Like war, the ones who perpetrate this sort of thing upon innocent populations only to repeat the process speaks of a type of human being that owns a moral/spiritual defect of epoch proportions. In our Mars-ruled world such types are favored in their callous climb to the top of the heap. Without consideration for others it's easier to just execute one's will.
I suppose by American citizens allowing their leaders to act like serial killers, choosing nation after nation to "bomb or burn" into submission, it was inevitable that these tactics (even if thus far in softer form) would eventually come home. I am not sure how to prepare for what is ahead although I think those who live simply and have shown caring for others will find themselves better situated than those who have sought after major material acquisitions and enslaved themselves to the capitalist treadmill the way the rats fed cocaine dance endlessly on the wheel in some of those experiments conducted by our ever-so-caring/conscious scientists from the behavior mod school.
The effects of their policies are clear, but I'm not sure that most of them know that that's what they are doing. I think that most of them, including Obama, see themselves as decent, moral people doing the best they can with the choices that are laid before them. Those of us who have cared to study what the Western powers have done in Latin America, Asia and Africa understand the real nature of neoliberalism, but government leaders live in a web of illusion partially of their own making. When power relations stand as they do today, it's easier for them to believe some things than others. It's even possible to see them as much victims of the system as we are. Just as most of the neoliberals that Klein describes, these people genuinely believe that eventually their policies will result in the greatest good for the greatest number.
This is a point well worth expanding on because it goes to the heart of why capitalism “succeeds”. Its driving force is the success of the leading members of society. These members have mastered behaviors that this social and economic order rewards. In their own eyes, their actions are dictated by noble aspirations for success and many of them are quite altruistic in wanting to spread the formula for this success to others. For them to fail to apply this formula would be felt as moral degeneration and they view those who cannot do what they do as insufficiently ambitious. The key understanding is that their success shapes the rules through which this society governs. Exceptions to the rule are experienced as unnecessary concessions to weakness, which must be overcome as quickly as possible. Capitalism does not arise from a secret conspiracy of bankers plotting world domination. Its main support consists of decent, "compassionate" individuals such as Barack Obama who wish to apply the rules that led to their “success” to as many as possible.
But it is precisely in their success that their blindness lies. Having mastered the rules so superbly, much of the world’s suffering becomes invisible to them, not because they are consciously ignoring it, but because minimizing those realities is part of the definition of their type of success. In reality, massive suffering is the reverse side of their achievements, but those achievements would not be possible unless they saw only the towering city and not the foundation it rests on.
But I think your description of their actual behavior is quite accurate.
You sounded well educated until you brought the mythical idea of "god" into the argument.
Do you realize how ignorant you sound using the concept of god as a reason for human action?
There is no god.
Sioux Rose
HOYT: Your arrogance is only trumped by your intolerance. Go away. You speak for things you know not of.
Siouxrose,
"Religion is what the common people see as true, the wise people see as false, and the rulers see as useful."
-Seneca
Have a nice Easter.
"If there was any unanimous progressive consensus over the last eight years, it was that the President does not have the power to kidnap people, ship them far away, and then imprison them indefinitely in a cage without due process. Has that progressive consensus changed as of January 20, 2009? I think we're going to find out."
If acceptance of kidnapping, etc. by progressives is corruption, then Obama's principle role as a leader has been to spread and deepen that acceptance and corruption to include everyone.
It was evident for the past 2 years that Obama would only carry out the most cosmetic changes possible, as long as it did not change the status quo of the corporate elite's self serving goals. Even if it went against the interests of the common good.
Evidence the corporate bailout (but not the bailout of the auto industry because that would benefit unions), this 'enemy combatant' Habeas corpus issue, refusing to even review if Bush and co were guilty of war crimes, failure to support single payer health care, increasing the military budget, increasing the surge in Afghanistan, and the list goes on.
Only the most extreme of Bush's policies are being retracted, but the path of ensuring that the corporate elite's interests are protected at the expense of common good is continuing unchallenged.
So all you millionaires and billionaire fear not, all is good in the land of plenty and greed.
Don't worry about the planet, don't worry about the general population, just carry on. And remember, give your uncritical support to Obama.
v.purto
Thank you Glenn Greenwald. Your piece carry a devastating evidence that 2008 elections has changed nothing. I used to thank Dubua for blatant unmasking of good Uncle Sam. Now we have to thank oBUMa for taking the last hope from millions around the world. For only hopeless situation provoke profound changes we need.
Pockets
Here we have this Uncle Sam who used to be a generous sort to the less privileged and many pockets for the things of peace like the sick, infirm, the poor , the needy and to give all a chance to live a dream to the future.
Yet it has been for many years where this Uncle Sam has emptied his peace pockets and filled them with war implements, ideas, groups; not for the defense of the ideals set forth from our beginnings
The pockets are deep and giving to the privileged, the greedy who would not share and a war machine to help them acquire what they would from whoever they could with no thought to life or limb or others property or goods or any dream they may nurture.
This Uncle Sam is starting to look ratty and worn from being a practitioner of usury with the less privileged and loading up the “other class” and borrowing to and from the future, if any, from the pockets of peace. Peace has more pockets but empty ones and the war ones would keep it that way by hoping that we are nothing but lemmings
What are we? Tony 5/10/09
Barack Obama is just another liar. He is such a slick liar, however, that he's managed to outdo the former master - Bill Clinton. George W. Bush was perhaps the biggest liar of the age, but he was lousy at it and unless you were a complete moron you knew every word out of his mouth was fraudulent.
You have to give it up for Obama, though. He co-opts progressive rhetoric while pushing policies to the right of even those "centrist" Clintons.
America, you got fucked again. Don't say we didn't warn you!
Obama's a great pickup artist, and he's doing to the American people what pickup artists do to the women they pick up.
Sioux Rose
Fake French: Well-said, the political version of cartesian dualism meets bi-polar disorder, dressed up with make-up and an expensive suit!
"... a privilege that I in my own time have known the boldest people afraid to speak of in a whisper ...the privilege of filling up blank forms for the consignment of anyone to the oblivion of a prison for any length of time ..."
From "A Tale of Two Cities", by Charles Dickens
If progressives and independents had known Obama would take these positions, would he have been elected?
OTOH, would things have been better with McCain?
v.purto
"would things have been better with McCain?" No, they would not have. For there was never a choice as it turned out and it was very predictable at that. It follows that people of Serbia had exactly the same chice as we, American, do. However, after several weeks of bombing Beograd and the rest of the Serbia, people finally made the right decision.
I wonder who will bomb us in order to do regime change?
Bring America Back !!!!..Look Chet: Here were the vote options on Nov4
1...John McCain....Total Evil Bush 3rd term
2...Barak Obama....Lesser Evil of spineless, cave-in Dems
3...Waste Your Vote....various candidates with impossible chances
*If the election were tomorrow, how could we do any differently, even
knowing what we know now ??
****During the Cabinet vetting and appointments, we knew we would be getting
Bill Clinton's third term of office........We never dreamed we would have the
equivalent of "W"'s Third Term embodied by Barak Obama !!!!
***We've got 3 years to Push Obama to the Changes we were promised,
or to find the best Progressive we can, to take back our Nation !!!!
TruthKnoller. Your posts at first make you seem like your paying attention to whats really going down with the world right now, but then the above post where you (correct me if I'm wrong) admit to voting for, umphh, in your words, the lesser evil of spineless, cave-in Dems, opposed to your no. 3 choice that you call "wasting your vote". that's just what the spineless, cave-in Dems, wanted you to do (and sounds like you not only did it then but would do it "in your words" tomorrow.
sounds like you need to make a decision in your heart about how you really feel. how when you have grandkids and they ask "why did we bail out all the crooks while millions of americans lost their jobs and couldn't get healthcare for their families, and our military raped and pillaged their way across the world. You'll tell them, well, duh, I voted for the lesser of the two evils. there were other options but the media told me that there was no way they'd have a chance to win. it was the media right? or did you have some type of crystal ball that told you who was going to win. and just how would McCain be worse than Obama right now. let me guess, he's a republican and you'll never vote for a republican, always a democrat because in your mind they will always be the lesser of two evils.
start wasting your vote then you won't feel so upset and write so many posts complaining about the guy you voted for!
I'm pretty sure that if you wanted real progressive change, you were wasting your vote with Obama.
The only hope this country has if you can throw off the faux two party system. There is no fundamental difference between democrats and republicans. They are both headed over the cliff. This country needs a change in direction if it to survive, and it won't come from the two mainstream corporate parties.
Vote third party, don't throw your vote away.
Hypothetical questions like this one have no real answer. There were many signs during the campaign that Obama was a mainstream Democrat that would support corporate interests over the public interest. (His vote for the FISA Act, letting off AT&T and the Bushies for domestic spying being a classic example.)
However, I don't think many could foresee exactly how bad Obama would turn out to be. Thus, Obama got some of "the hopeful vote." These folks were mostly loyalists Dem voters, not necessarily progressives.
Quite possibly, McCain might have been a more moderate choice than Obama. McCain kept up the scary Bush rhetoric and he's definitely a Republican Party man rather than some sort of maverick. However, McCain really didn't seem too interested in Afghanistan and Pakistan - like the Bush administration. So, he might not have escalated the wars there, unlike Obama. McCain probably would have maintained the occupation of Iraq, but Obama's doing the same thing, so that's a tie on continuing the repression.
The two campaigns just sounded different. The policies seem to be turning out to be real similar. So, you lose no matter which faction of the business party you pick.
-TIA
Gracias Senor Greenwald-Three & a Half years to go. Any ideas? An article on CD now lauds community organizing as a vehicle. If criticizing Obama will solve problems we're saved. Otherwise action is required. If Nader is your path out of the woods, well, starting to organize on his behalf now would be requisite for efficacy.
It seems the duoply is well indicted here, What is w/o representation are viable ideas for change as opposed to expressions of ideals.
Chris Hedges is right, Resist or become Serfs.
Can one resist with a vote? Any vote?
see eye aye oh
We can thank our friends, the Israelis, for helping us along the path of international lawlessness. Not only does Israel continue to hold thousands of Palestinians, uncharged and untried, in Israeli prisons, where torture is routine, but they have also set valuable precedents for us in other ways.
For example, the use of extrajudicial assassinations, which are making so many enemies for us now in Afganistan, were pioneered by Israel, for use against the Palestinians:
"As the former head of Israel’s 20-lawyer International Law Division in the Military Advocate General’s office, Daniel Reisner, recently stated: "If you do something for long enough, the world will accept it. The whole of international law is now based on the notion that an act that is forbidden today becomes permissible if executed by enough countries … International law progresses through violations. We invented the targeted assassination thesis and we had to push it. At first there were protrusions that made it hard to insert easily into the legal molds. Eight years later, it is in the center of the bounds of legitimacy."
"In the Gaza fighting, Israel has again tried to transform international law through violations. For example, its military lawyers authorized the bombing of a police cadet graduation ceremony, killing at least 63 young Palestinian men. Under international law, such deliberate killings of civilian police are war crimes. Yet Israel treats all employees of the Hamas-led government in the Gaza Strip as terrorists, and thus combatants. Secretaries, court clerks, housing officials, judges - all were, in Israeli eyes, legitimate targets for liquidation.
"Israeli jurists also instructed military commanders that any Palestinian who failed to evacuate a building or area after warnings of an impending bombardment was a "voluntary human shield" and thus a participant in combat, subject to lawful attack. One method of warning employed by Israeli gunners, dubbed "knocking on the roof," was to fire first at a building’s corner, then, a few minutes later, to strike more structurally vulnerable points. To imagine that Gazan civilians - penned into the tiny Gaza Strip by Israeli troops, and surrounded by the chaos of battle - understood this signal is fanciful at best." --George Bisharat, April 03, 2009
The world understands that the U.S. and Israel are joined at the hip in greed, powerlust, and contempt for human rights and international law. Those of us who thought Obama would turn us away from our path to destruction were just dreaming. The next time you hear that we have killed "militants" or "terrorists" anywhere in the world, remember that these are just names we have picked out to make our lawlessness murders acceptable.
Bring America Back !!!!...and I'm sorry but just have to remind petrkrop
that 300 to 400 innocent children were slaughtered as well, at Gaza.
I mean, is not that a worse thing than even the killing of the 63 police cadets ??
**Come on, get the atrocity nature of this thing in better perspective.
**Prior to the attacks, the US Army Corps of Engineers constructed a mock Gaza
City village on Israeli turf, then provided the IDF force the training and
practice on the best ways to attack Gaza !! That put good ol' Uncle Sammy
in direct conspiracy on defenseless, innocent, Gaza, so that how could it be
repudiated in any manner by then sitting war criminal Bush, or his Encumbent
Successor Obama ?????
**Do you think it was the US Army advice to use those phosphorous bombs,
US cluster bombs, or to blockade the attempts at medical, food, or
humanitarian assistance turned away by the IDF ????????????
Obama is a stealth president who says one thing and does another. He clearly has sided with the financial elites whose purposes seem to be to indenture the world including the United States with debt. Obama has everyone fooled and the sooner people withdraw their support of him the better. Have a little pride and refuse to lap up the crumbs he throws to you while enriching the elites. It's time to fight back.
Bring America Back !!!!......Since it is Lenten week, we are not remiss to any Twilight Zone when Greenwald looks in that mirror and hears:...Glen, Thou art solidly Progressive and upon that Rock we will build our Party !!!
****Greenwald is right on track again, documenting the severe extent to which the Obama Administration is throwing the Nation to the wolves !!
****In a short 3 months we are profoundly aware that Team Obama has abandoned any hope of curing the cult of corruption inside the DC beltway; it is just as clear they have no hope of curtailing the march of the beast of the military-
industrial complex==the war machine rolls on and on, and on !!
***What I think the Team Obama has done, they've completely focused themselves on the old tradition which says: Americans never vote out of Office a sitting Presidential Administration during a wartime. ! Look for Team Obama to go agressive in Afghan, crusade for the fairytale bin Laden boogieman, and to stab their own diplomacy in the back where Iran's fantasy nukes are concerned.
Team Obama will allow Zionist Israel, and AIPAC, to create a conflagration in the Mid East, then claim they just had to militarily support little sister Israel. Ergo, we just have to re:elect that wonderful Global Orator Obama to save us, once again, from the Axis of Evil !! Probably a Zionist bombing of Iran starts it !
Then a recalcitrant Hillary Clinton goes TV_FOX stating: We'll obliterate 'Em!
====They never whispered a word on the Israeli genocide in Gaza, no remorse, and the Obama Inaugural Balls danced on the graves of 300 or 400 dead innocent children of Gaza. So, why would they utter even a peep when Israel goes into Iran. Team Obama is letting Clinton throw some US $$$$$ into Gazan reconstruction, and that's no doubt the plan for consoling the feckless Iranians.
**They're already measuring up Obama for his Flight Suit, and a
bigger and better Banner reading 'Mission Accomplished...4 MOre Years !
===by that time, Michelle's fashion statement will also include a flight suit,
acclaimed by all the female jet fighter pilots !!
Obama is disliked by both the left and right perhaps we can create a strategy to use this new dynamic leverage to create a better world.
Oregoncharles
No, they are relying on the ignorance of the populace.
Obama will go down, no doubt. But the Repugs will believe that's it's because he's a "socialist" and therefore will do everything they can to elect a better Repug, like we thought we were doing when we elected Obama. Progressives will finally flock to an outsider, if not Nader some other, thus splitting the vote and a Repug will win again. According to design, Repugs act belligerent, cruel. Dems act nice. Same agenda though.
This is the absolute beauty of one-party control. "The powers that be" don't care which corporate party wins, as long as they remain in control. Push for IRV!
We can use elections but not get so caught up in them. It's good to announce our collective voice at the ballot box but we must go beyond elections. As Arundhati Roy once said (essentially): Why play their game, where they make all the rules, have all the control? Why don't we create a situation where they are forced to play our game, where we use our own power, make our own rules.
Where is our own collective power? How can we assert it?
The truth is that Mr. Obama is a narcissist who thinks of himself as a strong, intelligent, well liked leader. He cannot and will not see that he is a small person of ordinary talent in a job for which he is not mentally qualified.
Consequently, he has betrayed every principle and point he thought would bring him into office. He did not lie to us; he really believes he is ethical, and moral. He believes he knows best and that he is doing the right thing now, that what he said in the campaign was necessary to get elected so that his leadership abilities could exercise his superior will for the "good" of the American people.
But, his leadership is founded upon a lie; now we know.
I agree on the narcissist point, but I see him as an effective campaigner with a penchant for very calculated manipulation. I don't know how human beings can pull this sort of thing off.
Obama fits in with the long line of lying U.S. presidents: Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and beyond. I think you have to have a streak of megalomania to do it. It's mental illness, and a deadly trait.
-TIA
Obama is disliked by both the left and right perhaps we can create a strategy to use this new dynamic leverage to create a better world.
What you/we like or do not like is no longer relevant. That's the message.
Your opinion on what is a better world does not match that of those who are creating the new world order, w/o seeking your approval. They say it will be a green revolution, but in todays Orwellian newspeak, green is not green.
But he is loved by the center....(I don't think the left would be interested in forming a coalition with the right... Ralph Nader and Sarah Palin...just an example...LOL) This is a two term President...get used to it....
Obama will pull a Ronald Reagan just like Clinton did. Here's the plan. Obama continues to pander to the GOP and burn what's left of the base. The GOP puts up a super looney rightwinger as the nominee. Suddenly, Obama looks "moderate" and the media ensures his victory as do the hardcore Democratic Party voters. In 1984, when Mondale made that stupid mistake of being honest, he was painted as "extreme" and suddenly Reagan looked "moderate". I would also add that the Obama administration is continuing to condition the electorate into believing that his selling out and more war spending is to be looked at as "moderate". Barring a 3rd party candidate gaining relevancy and support due to rising anti-two party sentiment, Obama will most likely win a second term because the GOP has a long term agenda of weakening the progressive/liberal wing of the Democratic Party while also seeing to it that none exists in their own party. By 2016, as it is highly unlikely Joe Biden will run, the Democratic Party will most likely have a very difficult time picking a qualified Democrat. They'll probably end up pulling a "Mccain" weakling and the GOP will be able to freely claim that they improved their reaching out to young voters when they win in 2016 because Obama's 8 years would have been soooo conservative enough to make even Bush look "liberal". Now, all this assumes that there won't be any 3rd party candidates running.
JenniferBedingfield, where have you been all my life?
· Yr Obd't Servant
Why do you ask that question? I'm only predicting the only scenario possible for Obama to win in 2012. Sadly, I was born a little over 1 month after that creep Ronnie Raygun took office in 1981 but will still fight through this hell system like everyone else no matter the odds.