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Despair Over Financial Policy
The Geithner plan has now been leaked in detail. It's exactly the plan that was widely analyzed - and found wanting - a couple of weeks ago. The zombie ideas have won.
The Obama administration is now completely wedded to the idea that there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the financial system - that what we're facing is the equivalent of a run on an essentially sound bank. As Tim Duy put it, there are no bad assets, only misunderstood assets. And if we get investors to understand that toxic waste is really, truly worth much more than anyone is willing to pay for it, all our problems will be solved.
To this end the plan proposes to create funds in which private investors put in a small amount of their own money, and in return get large, non-recourse loans from the taxpayer, with which to buy bad - I mean misunderstood - assets. This is supposed to lead to fair prices because the funds will engage in competitive bidding.
But it's immediately obvious, if you think about it, that these funds will have skewed incentives. In effect, Treasury will be creating - deliberately! - the functional equivalent of Texas S&Ls in the 1980s: financial operations with very little capital but lots of government-guaranteed liabilities. For the private investors, this is an open invitation to play heads I win, tails the taxpayers lose. So sure, these investors will be ready to pay high prices for toxic waste. After all, the stuff might be worth something; and if it isn't, that's someone else's problem.
Or to put it another way, Treasury has decided that what we have is nothing but a confidence problem, which it proposes to cure by creating massive moral hazard.
This plan will produce big gains for banks that didn't actually need any help; it will, however, do little to reassure the public about banks that are seriously undercapitalized. And I fear that when the plan fails, as it almost surely will, the administration will have shot its bolt: it won't be able to come back to Congress for a plan that might actually work.
What an awful mess.
Why was I so quick to condemn the Geithner plan? Because it's not new; it's just another version of an idea that keeps coming up and keeps being refuted. It's basically a thinly disguised version of the same plan Henry Paulson announced way back in September. To understand the issue, let me offer some background.
Start with the question: how do banks fail? A bank, broadly defined, is any institution that borrows short and lends long. Like any leveraged investor, a bank can fail if it has made bad investments - if the value of its assets falls below the value of its liabilities, bye bye bank.
But banks can also fail even if they haven't been bad investors: if, for some reason, many of those they've borrowed from (e.g., but not only, depositors) demand their money back at once, the bank can be forced to sell assets at fire sale prices, so that assets that would have been worth more than liabilities in normal conditions end up not being enough to cover the bank's debts. And this opens up the possibility of a self-fulfilling panic: people may demand their money back, not because they think the bank has made bad investments, but simply because they think other people will demand their money back.
Bank runs can be contagious; partly that's for psychological reasons, partly because banks tend to invest in similar assets, so one bank's fire sale depresses another bank's net worth.
So now we have a bank crisis. Is it the result of fundamentally bad investment, or is it because of a self-fulfilling panic?
If you think it's just a panic, then the government can pull a magic trick: by stepping in to buy the assets banks are selling, it can make banks look solvent again, and end the run. Yippee! And sometimes that really does work.
But if you think that the banks really, really have made lousy investments, this won't work at all; it will simply be a waste of taxpayer money. To keep the banks operating, you need to provide a real backstop - you need to guarantee their debts, and seize ownership of those banks that don't have enough assets to cover their debts; that's the Swedish solution, it's what we eventually did with our own S&Ls.
Now, early on in this crisis, it was possible to argue that it was mainly a panic. But at this point, that's an indefensible position. Banks and other highly leveraged institutions collectively made a huge bet that the normal rules for house prices and sustainable levels of consumer debt no longer applied; they were wrong. Time for a Swedish solution.
But Treasury is still clinging to the idea that this is just a panic attack, and that all it needs to do is calm the markets by buying up a bunch of troubled assets. Actually, that's not quite it: the Obama administration has apparently made the judgment that there would be a public outcry if it announced a straightforward plan along these lines, so it has produced what Yves Smith calls "a lot of bells and whistles to finesse the fact that the government will wind up paying well above market for [I don't think I can finish this on a Times blog]"
Why am I so vehement about this? Because I'm afraid that this will be the administration's only shot - that if the first bank plan is an abject failure, it won't have the political capital for a second. So it's just horrifying that Obama - and yes, the buck stops there - has decided to base his financial plan on the fantasy that a bit of financial hocus-pocus will turn the clock back to 2006.


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Show AllThe Obama administration is now completely wedded to the idea that there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the financial system - that what we're facing is the equivalent of a run on an essentially sound bank. As Tim Duy put it, there are no bad assets, only misunderstood assets. And if we get investors to understand that toxic waste is really, truly worth much more than anyone is willing to pay for it, all our problems will be solved.
JAY-ZUS!
What an awful mess.
What's worse about this mess, is that it is NO ACCIDENT.
There are somewhere, those that actually worked long and hard to create this ultimate BOHICA
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¿ Perhaps it's Excederin Headache 6 6 6 ?
Don't forget BOAGYA
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You don't get npwr.luv's reference. It's from the Jim Rome sports talk radio show.
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Eric Patton
Cincinnati, OH
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I guess I don't "get it" either ( not that I was looking forward to getting "it" ).
¿ Waz'up with Jim Rome ?
Sioux Rose
Mr. Krugman: Thank you for telling the truth. The only thing missing is your explanation for WHY Obama is giving the bankster-criminals a free pass. Do you really think it's because he believes in a financial model that places the security of banks first? The very nature of security is undermined by in-house policies that treat others' funds like crap shots on a Vegas table. Gambling is the antithesis of sound policy for a nation to follow, support or rationalize.
Since Mr. Obama has a background in law, surely he understands the risks and potential losses attributable to a system that lacks any sane form of accountability. Surely he knows enough history to understand Glass-Steagall, and given the ravages underway that are impacting the poorest of the poor 'round the globe, only a soulless president, utterly under thrall to Mammon (and Mars) could go along with more of same, rewarding trespass of such profound dimensions, and PRETENDING these are the measures necessary to stem the great fall. To devoted followers like a priest passing out holy water, he gives power to the illusion that he is doing something to patch up the gaping wound that's bleeding money, when money remains the currency necessary for treating our collective challenges, ones like global warming.
The word insider rings like a bell. And the note it sounds is ominous to all sentient beings.
"The word insider rings like a bell. And the note it sounds is ominous to all sentient beings."
¿ Perhaps it's "wake-up" music to our ears ( and consciousness ) ?
Do you really think it's because he believes in a financial model that places the security of banks first?
Some of this is to pay off the global financial players. Many foreign investors are getting their governments to put pressure on us to guarantee those exotic financial instruments they bought.
Obama doesn't have to believe in the financial model at all. He just has to be afraid of taking any action that will move the country 30 years backwards on *his* watch.
There are lawyers and then there are lawyers:
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/06/nation/na-obamalegal6
It is fundamental to his autobiography, displayed on his campaign website and woven into his appeals for votes. In one of his television ads leading up to the South Carolina primary, Obama recalled "working as a civil rights attorney to make sure that everybody's vote counted."
Senior attorneys at the small firm where he worked say he was a strong writer and researcher, but was involved in relatively few cases -- about 30 -- and spent only four years as a full-time lawyer before entering politics.
Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.
But the firm also handled routine legal matters and real estate. Obama spent about 70% of his time on voting rights, civil rights and employment, generally as a junior associate. The rest of his time was spent on matters related to real estate transactions, filing incorporation papers and defending clients against minor lawsuits.
In one instance, Obama defended a nonprofit corporation that owns low-income housing projects against a lawsuit in which a man alleged that he slipped and fell because of poor maintenance. Obama got the suit dismissed.
In another case, Obama appeared on behalf of a nonprofit corporation that provided healthcare for poor people. A woman who claimed income of less than $8,000 a year had sued Obama's client to obtain a $336 payment for baby-sitting services; Obama's client paid up, and the case was settled.
In 1994, Obama appeared in Cook County court on behalf of Woodlawn Preservation & Investment Corp., defending it against a suit by the city, which alleged that the company failed to provide heat for low-income tenants on the South Side during the winter.
Those were not the cases Obama highlighted in the self-portrait drawn in his first memoir, "Dreams From My Father."
"In my legal practice," he wrote, "I work mostly with churches and community groups, men and women who quietly build grocery stores and health clinics in the inner city, and housing for the poor."
Our financial/banking system made simple - - -
Start with $1,000 earned from building widgets with value deposited in our local bank in a savings account. At the end of a year, the bank pays us interest – even at 5% (1.5% is closer), it is only $50. But the bank needs to make a profit, so our rules allow them to leverage our $1,000 by 25, 30, even 40 to 1; so using the 30 to 1 leverage; the bank makes a home loan of $30,000 and collects interest at 5%. The bank earns $1,500 on our $1,000 savings.
As a commercial bank, it has to borrow the $29,000 using the value of the property securing the mortgages as collateral, and would pay interest of say 1.5% or $435. So, the bank now has earned about $1,000 on our $1,000 in savings and can leverage that into $30,000 more mortgages and during the second year, our $1,000 has earned the bank another $2000.
This can and does go on and on with the bank doubling their earnings on our savings each year. After only five years, the bank is earning $32,000 a year on our $1,000 deposit. Everything is safe because home values keep rising.
Because they have leveraged our $1,000 and the net interest earned each year; the bank now has $1,890,000 worth of real estate backed mortgages.
Pretty sweet but not even close to the end. Our bank now sells these mortgages to an investment bank – or, since they are often the same bank, does an accounting entry. The investment bank now has $1,890,000 in value from our $1,000 savings. The rules allow them to securitize this asset into a bond which is rated; by their owned and controlled rating agency as AAA meaning it is as good as cash. The rules allow the investment bank to leverage as well, so our $1,000 now has become $56,700,000 which they loan to commercial banks for more mortgages. The cycle continues, remember we only have $1,000 in cash and as long as real state values continue to rise and the mortgage holders continue to make their payments, the system continues to grow, exponentially with bankers realizing a profit every step of the way. Even at 1.5%, the investment bank is earning $850,500 each year and yes, we are still getting our $50 dollars a year.
Now the really creative part, credit default swaps. The investment bankers (also allowed to be insurance companies), wanting to hedge against losses and find additional sources of income, buy and sell credit default swaps which are bets for and against the likelihood of the system to continue to grow. While the rules, or lack of rules, allow an unlimited number of these credit default swaps to be bought and sold and does not require the buyer or seller to have any ownership at all in the bond upon which the bet is placed. For simplicity, let’s assume only one credit default swap betting against the bond is sold (we do not know that to be true and no one telling us; it would be a safe assumption that the actual figure is much higher). But, since we assume only one is sold, we have only doubled the potential liability to $113,400,000 – all from our $1,000.
Because of our “too big to fail” financial system and the fact that our financial elites own our government, the taxpayers are on the hook for $113,400,000. So, when we quit paying our mortgages because we are deadbeat losers or whatever and the real estate values supporting this pyramid drop below the amounts owed; we the taxpayers are on the hook to make the bankers whole, pay all bets.
Multiply the $1,000 a few times and you get to the hundreds of trillions of dollars that is being legally stolen from taxpayers. The question is who gets the money? Who owns the banks?
They hate us because of our freedom! Right, and I have this bridge....
And yet, we are still not out burning banks to the ground. Astounding. And the really really really sad part of all of this is that your explanation is absolutely correct. Thank you.
Ekaton
Now, take the above and add in how the cost of creating fiat money in the first place - it is debt owned/controlled by the Federal Reserve, and that includes paying interest. So, the real cost of the shenanigans is much more that those crazy trillions.
You, obviously do not bank with WAMU. 2 savings accounts in excess of $5000 were being charged fees! The most i ncome interest I received from them on an IRS 1099 form was $38.00. As further infuriation, Horace Mann,'for teachers,' raised my home 'insurance,' $300.00 annually to $1894. 14 years ago when I bought this dump, it was only $800.00. They didn't start raising it until 'Dumbshit' took office in '01. In '06 that bill was $1500, when this house was at it's peak value. The value drops 50% but the insurance goes up $400!!! While Charter cable files bankruptcy but my basic bill is $155.00 with a rusted out connection at the street!
Yeah, tell me about watching my back...
I didn't vote for any of these corporate whores.
Thank you so much for this post.
"As a commercial bank, it has to borrow the $29,000 using the value of the property securing the mortgages as collateral, and would pay interest of say 1.5% or $435"
Questions:
1) Where does this 29K come from? I presume that at the end of the day, you can trace it back to money that people have invested somewhere, somehow. It seems like to do the accounting right, you have to find out where that money originates.
2) It seems that a lot of the magic in this house of cards is related to the large leveraging ratios. What is to stop the banks from leveraging even more? If it is legal restrictions, what would stop them from leveraging 1000 to 1 in the case that restrictions weren't in place? What are the market forces here? I would guess it is related to getting the rest of the money that I was asking about in question 1 and perhaps the size of the investment bank.
"The rules allow the investment bank to leverage as well, so our $1,000 now has become $56,700,000 which they loan to commercial banks for more mortgages."
1)Again, who is supplying this money and what market forces balance at leveraging ratios of 30:1?
Not despair over financial policy, despair over our MONETARY SYSTEM.
Our monetary system is a privatized system of debt-based currency subject to interest. As with any monetary system subject to interest it inherently multiplies debt and will continue to do so until terminal debt is reached and monetary collapse occurs. That would be right about now. It is operated for the benefit of American and international banksters who don't give a rat's ass about U.S. citizens. We need to eliminate the unconstitutional Federal Reserve System and create constitutional money not subject to interest. Economic democracy then requires a constitutional guarantee that establishes and protects every prospective debtor's right to issue their promise to pay, free of extrinsic manipulation, adulteration, or exploitation of that promise, or the natural opportunity to make good on it. http://www.perfecteconomy.com/
Not despair over financial policy, despair over our MONETARY SYSTEM.
Our monetary system is a privatized system of debt-based currency subject to interest.
Bingo! Krugman really needs to talk about this too. I have pointed his lack of taking on this before.
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Bless you Jim Eldon! You're the first person I've encountered whose aware of PFMPE! Spread the word!
There is no way to Peace. Peace is the Way.
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¿ Perhaps we need very strong nightmares to awaken us ?
Are they really nightmares when we're just thinking that we're asleep, and the whole pseudo world ( of our favorite illusions ) is falling down around our toes.
¿ Perhaps reality IS just one of the many possible realities ?
Namaste
As usual, Dr. Krugman is speaking the truth, but not all of the truth, not all at once.
What he's not telling you is that the Obama administration is on course to break the US middle class, plus most of its millionaires, to enrich and empower the trillionaire international banking imperium:
"...the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. this system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations...
"There really is a 'world system of financial control in private hands' that is 'able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world.'"
Carroll Quigley, "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time" (1966)
Complete text:
http://www.alexanderhamiltoninstitute.org/lp/Hancock/CD-ROMS
/GlobalFederation%5CWorld%20Trade%20Federation%20-%2098%20
-%20Tragedy%20and%20Hope.html
The last fifty years of middle-class prosperity has been an aberration of history, because all other human history has been characterized by a relatively small, wealthy ruling class dominating the rest of the population, virtually powerless and mostly poor. Having lost much of their domination because of reforms under FDR, the global banking class has since then militated to reverse those reforms and reclaim their domination - and are well on-course to succeed.
Your descendents, if you have any, will be serfs and slaves, as your ancestors were.
Your descendents, if you have any, will be serfs and slaves, as your ancestors were.
Sadly, this is where most Americans are. They believe somehow they will be the ones who will own the slaves and control the serfs.
Not that I really mind seeing the USA burn itself to the ground...good riddance really, the less fascist states in the world the better. .but the rest of us are choking to death on the smoke.
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
Ditch the banks that get bailouts - close your account. Go open an account in your local small-town bank. Do business at farmer's markets, yard sales, Ebay perhaps, Craig's list. Barter to exchange value or services. Buy your food locally if possible. Don't go to WallMart - support your local business or it will vanish.
It is possible to some degree to opt out of the system - do it as much as possible. Personally, I'm trying to arrange a dwelling place, large garden, solar, wind, wood stove, about 1,000 second-hand books, eventually droping out of the rat race, taking perhaps a low-stress, low-paying job of some sort when cash is needed, thereby paying minimal or no taxes. Come to think of it I haven't filed for a few years. Probably should. But, if WE all don't file or pay, WE outnumber THEM so WE win. That is, if WE can get it together to act cooperatively :)
Have a good weekend - opt out - buy something used - barter - trade. :)
BINGO!!
I've called, written and/or protested:
About this bailout when it started. We were 10 to 1 against this bailout across our great land. Sen. Collins had the nerve to say she did what she thought was "right" not what her constituants asked her to do.
About the billions of dollars going into defense/war hole with the billions "lost".
About fusion centers and the money wasted on "national security". Not that I'm against security but how about SECURE OUR BORDERS and stop treating us like we're the criminals/terrorists. The list goes on ..
It is time to plant a garden, support local businesses and your communities, support and become more active on a state level and STOP PAYING FEDERAL TAXES. Maybe that will get the attention from the Powers that Be and Main Street Media. This administration MUST stop the financial strangulation of our country and countrymen. I'll probably have a swat team at my door before morning but I am sick of this whole mess.
I agree with your comments 100%. I've done the involvement, local support, garden, always bought used and always recycled, etc. I'd love to quit paying taxes, but we're on a retirement income from a gov't job. (Before you start guessing, my husband worked for the local transit company) We're actually afraid the whole retirement account will be snatched like Social Security.
But what I was thinking, what if we all got a class action suit together and claimed that we have "taxation without representation"? Since, as you pointed out, citizen opposition to the bailout was overwhelming.
My congressman's office said it was due to all the bankers and businessmen who called and begged/threatened for it. I can't believe they admitted that to me but I guess by that time it was bloody obvious.
In our fed. tax form they have a pie graph of who pays what, and personal income tax revenues more than double corporate tax revenues. Of course, it's hard to believe anything put out by the fed. gov't., especially with the accounting practices that allow many sets of books.
I'm just trying to think of ideas for taking a true legal action against the real culprits who took our money and spent it on sh*t.
I'm not sure how many people are aware of the following information.
On the House floor, on October 1, Rep. Brad Sherman, D-California, 27th District, said the following about the threats that were being issued over the bailout bill: "The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. That atmosphere is not justified. Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday, the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day and another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no."
This is another reason why it's time to stop PAYING FEDERAL TAXES. What kind of government do we have that operates like this? I realize it was the Bush administration when this happened BUT Obama is continuing to operate the same type of administration: say one thing - do another OR lie by omission.
I did call my local ACLU for help with a suit for taxation without representation. Their response: We don't do that type of work. hahahahaha OMG!!!
Looking out the widow's walk windows - no swat team yet
I didn't hear Rep. Sherman's comment. Are you in his district? My Congressman went right along with the whole thing.
I did take a quick look at the bill myself and noticed that it had "replaced" the entire text of a previous bill, thus circumventing the normal process of committees and reviews.
So we have representatives who don't represent us but there's nothing we can do about it? According to the ACLU.
I am racking my brain trying to come up with something better than barricading myself inside my house with guns. If I had any guns...
BTW, I've got a widow's walk too.
Goldman-Sachs continues to own the Treasury Department--check out Matt Taiibi's impressive Rolling Stone article--
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26793903/the_big_takeover/7
For those of you among the ranks of the working poor, watch out. If you'll notice Zimets little snippet post on the sidebar, what's going to happen now is that the middle class yuppies are going to renew their taxation efforts on the poor--again.
every state in trouble is going to come at us like gangbusters, so be aware of who your friends are and aren't. it'll be smokers, booze, gasoline, all sorts of user fees and taxes, and the usual litany of stuff that hits us the hardest.
while the national and global situation is indeed dire, don't take your eyes off our "friends" locally who are going to start sticking their shivs in our back to keep their schools runnning and their parks open.
Of course, Goldman Sachs owns the TREASURY
( and as well, all who work in govt )
[ ______ as they're a major owner ______ ]
[ _____ of the FED w/o RESERVE ! _____ ]
I fear that when the plan fails, as it almost surely will, the administration will have shot its bolt: it won't be able to come back to Congress for a plan that might actually work.
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And will we then all swirl into the black hole of economic ruin world-wide, penniless. without food and shelter? Troublesome times are on the way when people find themselves struggling to survive:
“The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose.” -- James Baldwin
In the old days the spanish conquistadors went to the New World. They hacked through jungles and human bodies to collect their gold. And what do you know? The English pirates were waiting for them in some coves or bays. Of course, we all know the rest.
The present era's equivalent goes something like this. The industrial capitalists rob various natural resources, including labour, from all over the world. The governments AND middle classes of the home countries of these capitalists and those so called emerging economies are complicits in this globalised robberies.
Here come the modern day pirates, the financial capitalist who with the help of central banks all over the world start to create this massive fiat currencies. The result is we have a CONTINUOUS INFLATION lasting centuries. Ask yourself, how much is a loaf of bread in George Washington's time? How much is a bottle of milk in Queen Victoria's time?
There is off course a climax to this drama and it is here and now. When the ultimate inflation hit us all the fiat monies of the world will reveal their true nature, PAPER. It makes no difference whether it is the 5000 Yuans, Pesos of a worker or the 500 milllion Dollars, Euros or Yens of the industrial capitalists. The financial pirates now own most of the resources of the world.
A demand problem is what this recession is all about. Working people's incomes have gradually declined for the last thirty years. Corporations and Government have conspired with the acquiescence of economists to strip workers of a decent wage. Now people are in financial trouble and have no money to spend us out of this depression. Does it really make any sense to bail out the banks when there is not enough demand to purchase products and services? With ten trillion dollars in loans and guarantees to the banks, and only seven hundred billion for jobs, it seems unlikely that demand will be strong enough to bring us out of the depression. If this is the best that Harvard and Princeton graduates can do then plan on living a subsistence lifestyle. I already do.
Worse than that... of the 700B for jobs, 30B is for roads. More roads mean more fossil fuels, more sprawl, more oil wars.
http://freepublictransit.org
Obama the new Hoover!
Headline in NYTimes: Wall Street saves Wall Street; Rich dancing the streets; poor eating cake
Mr. Krugman:
I appreciate your ideas here, but many of us are very tired of even the best economists giving in to the misleading terminology:
Bad Debt/Misunderstood Debt
In the public mind, too often, this is assumed to be merely mortgages that have gone into default.
But we know that the whole sub-prime market was around 1.5 trillion, but the Credit Default Swap market was anywhere from 45 trillion (early 2008 estimates) to 65 trillion (Dean Baker, recent quote).
Baker says that for every CDS that was covering a bond or mortgage-backed security that the purchasing party owned, there were 5-10 owned by people who were merely speculating, gambling.
It seems that much of the "bad debt" involves CDS's that financial institutions can't afford to pay.
But if the government is going to pay top dollar for bad mortgages that triggered the CDS's, then it would seem that there is no real loss to be covered-- so why should we be bailing out banks and AIG at hundreds of billions, if we're buying or reselling bad, or misunderstood, debt? Then the gambling/speculation losses to be covered by the CDS's would not need to be covered, or not at such high rates?
Or are we simply bankrolling finanical institutions to double-dip?
The public lacks a clear understanding of these parts of the crisis, and without it, many can only assume that the biggest, best predators of the capitalist system are doing what they do best, and finding some barely legal way to rob us all blind.
Please do better in your use of the "bad debt" terminology in the future. It feels as if the use of such lingo merely buys into a big lie that is being told, and it's wearing thin. We have to do better.
Trying to understand all this is impossible for most of us. I think we need to go back to basic principles of money and banking, and what as a society we expect from those who manage both to do and under what standards and rules of behavior. Banking is supposed to serve society, not exploit it. Fiduciary duties had meaning, and they should continue to do so. Part of the answer is smaller banks and separating investment banking from the banks that service our economy. Part is more regulation, more oversight, and greater insistence on the public service owed by banks to our citizens. The tail has been wagging the dog for too long.
Herman Schmidt
Yes and no.
Banking principles is no longer appropriate ( now an oxymoron ) , as they really have none.
Going back to the basics and economics -- will never get one to understand how ( beyond ) out-of-control things have become.
My suggestion is to start believing that _ 9 _ ! _ ! _ was an inside job, perpetrated by the elitist avariciousness incarnate -- the pure evil scammed upon America ( w/ death ) to propagate a further scamming ( grand standing racketeering ), as well as abolishment of our Constitutional protections and nominal rule of law, and now with the 2nd towering ( false flag event ) of economic catastrophic collapse and fleecing of ( almost ) everyone's capital, wealth, and security.
W_ a l l _ S t r e e t
T _ u r m o i l _ and
C _ h a o s
It is AS IF the once thought sturdy pillars of Wall Street have ALL crashed down around ALL of US, taking down the foundation and edifice of modern society -- with no understandable reason -- until one looks to who benefits ( follow the money ).
No simple thinking is what got us here today, and radical 'out-of-the-box' thinking is the only key we possibly have to reach real understanding.
Welcome to my nightmare,
… it's the only way I've been able to connect all of the pieces of broken buildings, broken promises, broken reality, and broken morality -- and the level of evil wickedness is freakishly unprecedented -- in all of mankind's LIFE upon this Earth.
Wake up my friends, and join with your friends and neighbors -- our children's future is waiting :
'the night is always darkest before the dawn'
Namaste
Your nightmare, Dick Cheney's dream
Not his dream,
his reality
Indeed. But it's an alternate, Twilight Zone reality.
From his exit interview on Face the Nation Jan 4., 2009: "I think we've done some very good things over the course of the last eight years," Cheney said. "Defending the country against further terrorist attacks like 9/11, I think, is a major accomplishment, for example. I think we made progress on education with No Child Left Behind and prescription drug benefits for seniors, and so forth. I can point to tax policies, a series of policies and actions that were put in place that were significant progress.
"There's no question that the new administration and President Obama are going to have their hands full with a new set of problems, if you will, centered especially upon the economy, upon the difficulties that have developed in the financial markets over the last six months."
The last 6 months? How can even he possibly believe anything he says?
This man scares the livin shit out of me. Visible waves of evil radiate from his person. His goals are 1)kill, 2)kill, 3)kill, 4)rob, 5)rape, 6)retire.
The amazing thing is that so many Americans thought Bush/Cheney's goals were the same as theirs.
Maybe we're the ones in the Twilight Zone reality.
Of course. 'The night is darkest just before the dawn' -- and then comes the bewitching TWILIGHT moments.
Duplicity has been replaced by multiplicity,
patience with instant gratification,
just enough profit with never enough, and
Corporape America with Corpo-cluster-fuck-gang-rape America.
The interesting aspect of this "Twilight Zone reality", is that we individually have the 'control of the vertical and horizontal' -- IF WE ALLOW that about ourselves.
Namaste
For those who believe that the "restoration" of the system, which has brought us this ruin, is the solution to our problems, please think again.
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/
The Federal Reserve, banking system and fractional reserve system are instruments of usury. They are designed and operated to allow a select few to amass huge, unearned fortunes at the expense of the nation.
Usury means charging interest. That is not to say “excessive” interest but any interest. If you will research the word back to its origin, you will find that usury and interest are interchangeable. The definitions, even passages in the bible, have been tweaked over time to accommodate the agenda of the elite.
Economics is numbers and numbers are math and nothing more. It’s called accounting.
An economy that is based on usury can never be balanced since it creates only ever-increasing debt that can never be serviced.
A charge of ten percent interest on $100.00, with no currency in circulation to service it, creates debt that can’t be paid. One hundred plus zero does not equal one hundred and ten. The usurer takes unearned wealth from circulation while providing nothing of use to society but rather heaps unending dept upon those who actually produce commerce and wealth.
Usury, charging interest, is destructive of commerce and society as a whole. This is can clearly be seen at this time by anyone who cares to have an unbiased look. The simple, common sense evaluation of observable phenomena provides undeniable proof. A cursory review of history simply confirms it.
If you actually choose to believe in the principles upon which this nation was founded and the alleged wisdom of those wealthy individuals who enacted those principles then simply refresh your history and see what many of the “founders” have to say about private banks and bankers. They warned that this time would come if private banks were given control of the nation’s money.
These are historically accurate. Don’t ask me to prove it for you. If you’re too lazy to do your own research then simply continue to choose blind faith in the capitalist ideology. Distilled to its essence, the capitalist mindset can be expressed in three words: Buy or Die.
I’m sure your children and grand children will be avid to hear an explanation as to why your narrow self-interest and addiction to instant gratification were more important than their survival.
“If the American people ever allow banks to issue their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations which will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” Thomas Jefferson
James Madison speaking on the first attempt to establish a central bank in America:
“History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible, to maintain their control over governments, by controlling money and its issuance.”
“It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens and one of the noblest characteristics of the late revolution. The free men of America did not wait until usurped power has strengthened itself by exercise and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle.”
Andrew Jackson speaking on the second attempt to establish a central bank in America:
“If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.”
“I am one of those who do not believe that a national debt is a national blessing, but rather a curse to a republic, inasmuch as it is calculated to raise around the administration a monied aristocracy dangerous to the liberties of the country.”
President Jackson told the bankers “You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal god, I will rout you out!”
It’s interesting to note how rampant the hypocrisy was even then.
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/
There is no way to Peace. Peace is the Way.
C O L D _ W A R _ B A B Y,
Thank you, we need the wake-up klaxon louder and even blastingly teeth rattling
-- the FED w/o RESERVE --
and the people long behind it ( 1913 ), are traitors to America and thieves extraordinaire.
Namaste
04.25.09
http://EndTheFed.us
Rally at Every Fed Bank and Office
"Audit the Fed! Repeal The Fed!"
Support HR 1207 and HR 833
"Obama - and yes, the buck stops there - has decided to base his financial plan on the fantasy"
The key word is fantasy. Obama is just the latest con man in the White House fronting for the Wall Street interests. Same crap new wrapping. I tried to warn people during the primaries but nobody would listen. This just makes my blood boil. We're being robbed (these bailouts are robbery) and most people, particularly on the "left"(?), have been snowballed by this guy.
WHAT ACTION DO WE TAKE TO STOP THIS?
B G 2 asks us "WHAT ACTION DO WE TAKE TO STOP THIS?"
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So far we know that the _ 9 _ ! _ ! _ scam pretext false-flag event
was not big enough to clue in the clueless,
and
that the next phase total economic steam rolling has yet to
even stir the "most free" people from their death-like sleep
of denial and materialistic abandon.
If OUR anger, rage, and fury -- is still not enough -- just wait, there is much more coming our way to aid the awakening process.
Namaste
I would like to take some action, too.
Please see my comment above made March 22nd, 2009 9:55 am, and tell me what you think of my idea. I am so sick of talk and criticism.
"Hell hath no fury like a spurned economist" (or a spurned progressive against Empire).
Paul is dead right.
As he has long warned this is not a liquidity problem, but a solvency problem, and Obama is showing a real lack of guts in facing the economic disaster caused by the 'Economics of Empire'.
I was fully committed, worked for, supported, and voted for Nader, because he was the only candidate willing to openly confront the ruling-elite 'corporate financial Empire' which controls our country by hiding behind the facade of its two-party, 'Vichy' sham of democracy.
However, once Obama was in office he almost "had me at hello". When he slapped out at the detached global thieves by shutting down their UBS 'wealth extraction express', I thought this was but the first move toward a more nuanced attack on Empire than Nader would have surely taken.
However, now Obama seems to have folded like a cheap-suited weak-Willie, as soon as the Rubin sandwich bit into him. Now it certainly appears that the money-power (and other powers) of Empire have taken the fight out of our would-be champion.
Which is why I summarized the all-too-real downside in "Empire, Elitism, Externalities, and Extinction". The cry of "Captain, my Captain" is wailing from the panicked passengers, but it doesn't look like our Captain ever understood the political helmsmanship or the economic engineering necessary to right our indivisible political economy of this ship of state against the titanic empire's maelstrom.
It's not often that you hear a Times' economic columnist (a Nobel no less), and the World Socialists' economic columnist sounding so disappointedly similar:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/mar2009/bonu-m21.shtml
The seminal issue, much broader than AIG or the deceitful bonuses, is how to deal with an entire system which allows theft by dumping 'negative externality cost' POLLUTION (in this case 'debt bombs') on our society.
Luckily, this issue has already been legally resolved in dealing with dangerous industrial products --- "POLLUTER PAYS" is the legal answer and has been the law of the land since the cigarette settlement, the case of W.R. Grace in “Civil Action” and Erin Brockovich against PG&E poisoning ground water.
The same legal solution can and MUST pertain to financial pollution cased by a financial firm which manufactures corrupt/dirty products which are designed to produce phony profits only by polluting the financial atmosphere.
Manufacturing products which a prudent man knows or should know will produce pollution to the commonwealth, and doing so merely to create the appearance of phony profits (when there really is no profit) is illegal whether the product is cigarettes, dirty chemicals, asbestos, or CDSs.
"Polluter Pays" is the modern law of the land -- in the US and throughout the modern, sustainable, and social democratic world --- and thus financial products producers like AIG FP ('financial products') must pay to clean up the damage their products created.
Polluter Pays is the law and AIG (and most of all of the Wall Street corrupt investment banks, hedge funds, and integrated financial 'super-markets' like Citi) which have been selling rotten financial meat, and 'toxic waste' now have to pay for the pollution and financial sickness that their rotten products have caused!
Krugman knows more than Greenspan admitted in his phony mea culpa about a "shocking 'market flaw'" (that it's the externality economy, stupid), but Paul remains silent and Barack remains untutored and unprepared to confront the economic Empire.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
To get an idea of just what a trillion is, when you hear these "experts" mouthing off about trillions of dollars, consider this...
A million seconds is 13 days.
A billion seconds is 31 years.
A trillion seconds is 31,600 years.