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Even The New Republic Now Calls for a Party Purge of Corporate-Owned 'Centrists'
The New Republic, 2004, endorsing Joe Lieberman for President:
But one day, Joe Lieberman's warnings in this campaign will look prophetic. And the principles he has espoused will once again guide the Democratic Party. It will be the work of this magazine, to whatever small degree possible, to hasten that day.
[T]he anti-Lieberman campaign has come to stand for much more than Lieberman's sins. It's a test of strength for the new breed of left-wing activists who are flexing their muscles within the party. These are exactly the sorts of fanatics who tore the party apart in the late 1960s and early 1970s. They think in simple slogans and refuse to tolerate any ideological dissent.
A few weeks ago, Senator Dianne Feinstein announced that she and other Senate Democrats harbored reservations about President Obama's plans to overhaul the health care system. . . . The reaction from the left was swift and, by the standards of such things, furious. Which is to say, not very furious. . . .
I have a suggestion for something that would be productive: run a primary challenge against her. . . . The possibility of a primary challenge could [also] balance out [Sen. Evan] Bayh's incentives, thus aligning them more with those of the national party. . . . Primary electorates consist of a small, highly partisan subset of the electorate, and the prospect of submitting themselves to a partisan loyalty contest terrifies centrists like Bayh.
But if health care reform fails, liberals need to understand who to blame and how to fix it. They need to start knocking off Democrats like Conrad and Joe Lieberman, who seem to be trying to kill health care reform, even if this temporarily costs the Democrats some seats. . . . If health care reform can't pass now, then a filibuster-proof Democratic majority isn't worth having. At that point you have to consider blowing up the party and waiting a decade or two to rebuild a new one that's able to address the country's actual needs.
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My, what a rapid and total reversal -- one effectuated without the slightest acknowledgment that it even occurred. But that's just the accountability-free nature of Beltway punditry. There's a more important point highlighted here: namely, it is a sign of how dysfunctional the Democratic Party is -- and how meaningless is their glorious super-majority -- that even The New Republic, which long prided itself on safeguarding the Party from nefarious left-wing influences, is now calling for "centrist" Democratic Senators (even including Joe Lieberman) to be thrown out of office by means of primary challenges (I believe that was once called a "purity purge"), even if doing so results in a loss of Democratic seats. Chait's rationale is that allowing "centrist" dominance within the party means that the same corporate interests (rather than the interests of constituents) and the same political agenda end up being served regardless of which party is in control, meaning that -- as he put it -- even "a filibuster-proof Democratic majority isn't worth having" because nothing meaningful changes. You don't say.
That, of course, was exactly the motivating premise of those who sought to remove Joe Lieberman from the Senate in 2006 -- the people Chait demonized back then as "left-wing fanatics" who "refuse to tolerate any ideological dissent." That was also the animating principle behind the founding last year of Accountability Now, largely designed to recruit and enable meaningful primary challenges against corrupt, unaccountable, and worthless corporate-serving incumbents. As I wrote at the time in explaining the rationale for that project, after enumerating all of the radical Bush policies eagerly supported by Democrats:
As the 2006 election and these subsequent events conclusively demonstrate, mindlessly supporting and electing more Democrats for its own sake doesn't solve or even mitigate anything. Grounded in the premise that the Democrats are going to control both houses of Congress for the foreseeable future -- a premise virtually nobody disputes -- the primary objective has to be to alter the behavior of those who control the Congress.
Increasing the Democrats' margin of control doesn't achieve that goal. It does the opposite. Conveying to Democrats that you will support all of them no matter what they do, no matter how egregiously they trample on your values, only ensures that they will ignore your political priorities and values even more. Working to expand the margin of control Steny Hoyer, Rahm Emanuel and Harry Reid already enjoy -- further entrenching them in power -- only ensures that they will be less responsive and accountable. Only by attaching a serious price to their enabling of these extremist, destructive policies will their behavior change. If they are rewarded with greater control and greater comfort for doing what they've been doing, then it's just guaranteed that they'll continue to do the same thing. Only if they suffer losses and have their power threatened from this behavior will the behavior change.
And as part of a discussion I had with Lanny Davis -- who, echoing the 2006 version of Chait, had accused Accountability Now in The Washington Times of seeking the "ideological cleansing of the Democratic Party" -- I wrote:
What rational person would ever think that it's a bad thing to force incumbent members of Congress to have to justify their actions to voters, compete within their own party over conflicting ideas, and maximize the instruments available to citizens to keep their representatives accountable? Supporting primary challenges against incumbents who enable policies that you think are bad and harmful is about the purest expression of democracy there can be. And yet, so many people have become convinced that primary challenges are inherently illegitimate, and that what is "anti-democratic" is not the 97% re-election rates and the huge institutional advantages incumbents possess, but rather, attempts to expand the democratic process and the range of acceptable ideas by fostering intra-party debates and forcing incumbents to have to go before voters to explain what they've done.
And as I noted in my June, 2008 article entitled "Let's Give Blue Dogs the Boot," it is blind support for the likes of Chris Carney, Steny Hoyer, and various other corporate-owned Blue Dogs that made the Democratic Party key enablers of the ongoing Iraq War, telecom immunity, warrantless eavesdropping, and virtually every other piece of legislation demanded by the corporate interests that own both parties in Congress.
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While it's lovely that The New Republic has now joined that movement and decided that corporate-owned "centrists" need to be purged from the Party, Chait is laboring under complete blindness about the reasons these problems have arisen. Chait accuses me, Dan Froomkin and "liberals" generally of "confusion" because we believe that the Obama White House bears some of the blame in the dominance of corporate interests generally and in the health care battle specifically. Chait echoes the facially absurd excuse of the most hardened Obama loyalists everywhere: namely, that Obama, Rahm Emanuel and friends are just helpless, impotent observers who wield no influence over the health care debate and can do nothing but sit back and hope and pray that the Senate will pass a good, progressive health care reform bill free of excessive servitude to the health care and drug industries. If the Congress refuses to, well that's obviously not Obama's fault -- a President isn't in the Congress and can't really influence what it does, so this excuse-making goes.
For the moment, leave aside all the evidence to the contrary: that, as Chait's colleague Jonathan Cohn detailed, the Obama White House secretly entered into a deal with the drug industry not to negotiate for lower prices; that Obama has repeatedly sought to empower the Baucus-dominated Senate Finance Committee at the expense of more progressive committees; that the White House aggressively threatens, berates, and cajoles House progressives who impede the President's agenda but hasn't done anything against Blue Dogs; that the strategy of the White House from the start has been to ensure that the health care and drug industries are pleased so that they continue to use their ample largesse to fund the Democrats rather than get behind a GOP takeover in 2010; and that Emanuel built his career and power base by controlling the Congress through the expansion of the Blue Dogs and other "centrist" and "conservative" members and by pleasing corporate donors, thus rendering the image of him as a helpless, passive bystander in the health care debate transparent fiction. Even Dick Durbin -- the Senate's number two Democrat -- acknowledges that, even with a huge Democratic majority, the banking industry "frankly owns" the Congress.
More important than all of that is the fact that there is one principal reason that Blue Dogs and "centrists" exert such dominance within the Party: because the Party leadership, led by the Obama White House, wants it that way and works hard to ensure it continues. While Chait seems to envision himself as the pioneering inventor of the primary challenge strategy (something he first articulated six weeks ago), Accountability Now has actually been working continuously for the last year on recruiting credible primary challengers and building an infrastructure to support those challenges -- all in order to unseat the unresponsive, corrupt and corporate-owned incumbents who ensure that the same factions control government no matter which party is in control. But the principal barrier to those efforts has been the accurate perception that the White House and President -- along with key party institutions such as the DCCC -- will use their vast resources to keep Blue Dogs and "centrists" in office and crush any efforts from within the party to unseat them.
It's hard to overstate how many promising potential primary challengers with whom we've spoken -- highly energized and impressive members of City Councils or County Commissions or state legislatures or just private citizens -- who are eager to run against their corporate-owned Democratic Congressional incumbent but are deterred by one primary fear: that Obama and the Party infrastructure will undercut their efforts by actively supporting the Blue Dog incumbent. That fear is particularly pronounced for potential African-American challengers in districts where the corporate-serving "centrist" incumbent is wildly out of step with the interests and views of the typical (and sometimes overwhelmingly African-American) Democratic voter. Such potential challengers anticipate that Obama will intervene on behalf of the Blue Dog against the progressive challenger -- as he's done before -- and sabotage not only their primary challenge but perhaps their future viability as a candidate in their community and district.
That's what makes Chait's insistence that the Obama White House is just an innocent, impotent bystander in all of this so painfully naive and wrong (Obama says he wants a public option, so doesn't that settle it?, asks Chait, vacantly batting his eyes with child-like trust and innocence). When the White House genuinely wants a bill to pass -- rather than paying irrelevant lip service to it -- they know how to apply pressure on the defiant members of Congress:
The White House is playing hardball with Democrats who intend to vote against the supplemental war spending bill, threatening freshmen who oppose it that they won't get help with reelection and will be cut off from the White House, Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) said Friday.
"We're not going to help you. You'll never hear from us again," Woolsey said the White House is telling freshmen.
Rahm Emanuel, Tom Delay, and the Bush/Cheney White House have left no doubt that where there's a will to influence the actions of Senators and House members in one's own party, there's a way. But the Obama White House has done nothing in the way of attempting to change the behavior of the supposedly obstructionist Blue Dogs and centrists whom Obama-defenders are eager to blame for the health care standstill. In fact, they've done the opposite: Emanuel has repeatedly leapt to their defense and attacked progressives who sought to influence or otherwise put pressure on them to change behavior. White House threats that "you'll never hear from us again" are issued to defiant progressives only. Not only are such threats never issued to "centrists" and Blue Dogs who are supposedly impeding the President's health care agenda, but the White House does everything it can to protect those ostensible obstructionists and further entrench them in power. Isn't all of this fairly strong evidence that the White House knew, accepted and likely even desired from the start that -- despite the President's public assurances to progressives -- the "public option," understandably despised by the insurance industry, would be dropped from bill?
Nobody suggests that the President could easily or single-handedly change the behavior of Kent Conrad or Mike Ross. But there's certainly things -- effective things -- he could do to try, including making it more difficult for those politicians to stay in office, exactly as they threaten to do with defiant progressives. But they don't do that. They do the opposite. The reason that Blue Dogs and "centrists" exert such control in the Democratic Party and are able to ensure the Party remains beholden to corporate interests is because that's how Party leaders want it. That's how the Democratic Party has been built and it's how they continue to maintain their power.
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It's certainly true that the faces of the Republican Party (Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Bill Kristol, James Dobson) are significantly more warped and repellent than the standard Democrat, but the central fact in American political life is that the same narrow factions continue to control our political process regardless of which party is in control (note this recently leaked memo from GE executives emphasizing that "the intersection between GE's interests and government action is clearer than ever" and thus urging that all GE resources continue to be devoted to ensuring the enactment of favorable legislation, such as the Democratic Waxman-Markey climate and energy bill, something accomplished by flooding both parties equally with corporate largesse).
All of this hasn't happened despite the best efforts of the Obama White House to battle against it. To the contrary, Obama himself has been a major beneficiary of this process -- helping Democrats to be the leading recipient of corporate money -- and key Obama allies like Rahm Emanuel and Chuck Schumer have built their power bases through servitude to corporate interests. The very idea that Obama is valiantly struggling to cleanse the party of its corporate and centrist dominance, yet is just haplessly and helplessly unable to do so, is ludicrous beyond words.
It's possible to reasonably defend those actions as a necessary, pragmatic and prudent strategy for keeping Republicans out of power. But it's not possible to reasonably deny that the Democratic Party is how it is because that's how its leaders, including Obama, want it to be. Their actions permit no other conclusion. Indeed, one potential bright side with what's happening with the health care debate -- the Party's total devotion to the health care and drug industries despite huge majorities and a massive electoral mandate -- is that these truths have become so glaring that it is finally forcing even the most "sensible" Democratic partisans (TNR) to recognize how fundamentally flawed the Party is. That also appears to be making the prospect of recruiting credible challenges easier, and Accountability Now hopes to have some significant announcements soon.
If the Democratic Party is to become a meaningful alternative, free from corporate control, that will happen not because party leaders such as Obama cause it to happen. Instead, it will only occur from efforts on the part of Democrats to cease support for, and begin working to eject, those elements which keep the Party beholden to the same interests as the ones who own and control the so-called "other party." Systematic, credible primary challenges -- to impose a price for the Party on this behavior (by forcing them to divert resources to fending off primary challenges) and to make incumbents more accountable to their constituents -- is the best, perhaps the only, means for accomplishing that, if it can be accomplished at all.


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Show AllWell the obvious objection to a purge is that centrists will be going to the Republican party and taking corporate money with them. Will the remaining more lefty Democratic Party be able to win without a thoroughly activist base? Maybe. Will leftists ever be able to control their desire for more ideological purity to avoid an implosion as happened in the case of the right-wingnuts of the Republicans? Perhaps.
There is no response to this objection because we all know history gives examples of "people power" revolutions taking hold for short periods of time. The Democrats can be captured by the left wing. And plausibly they can take charge of the government (except the Supreme Court. But, how do "people power" revolutions end? Usually either leftist authoritarians (Venezuela and Zimbabwe) or right wing authoritarians (Poland, Ukraine, Latvia, Romania, and the Czech Republic).
The USA can tend toward right authoritarianism (as the previous 40 plus years has shown. But, it usually keeps some democratic process in place and is hampered by corruption. What can leftists in this country do? It is simple leftists can renounce leftist electoral politics for direct action and begin live alternatively to the state.
Agreed. I once read that today's rebels are tomorrows aristocrats. That cannot be allowed to occur again. This time, once the machine is taken apart, let us not put together a new one. There are fine, small, decentralized alternatives to statism that aren't even discussed because they don't 'scale'. They're not meant to. We are all one people but, we're not all meant to live in one large agglutinative mass. We need small confederations of people who, if needed and when needed, can come together in larger groupings that disappear just as fast as they form. This is natural and definitely doable.
Black_Anarch: "There are fine, small, decentralized alternatives to statism." This, what I take to be an anarchist viewpoint, certainly merits more consideration than it gets. I'm not as well informed on this as I should be, but I cannot think of a single contemporary "intellectual" who has put forth a compelling political philosophy in this view. Could you make some suggestions for an "anarchist reading list?"
I would never want to see an anarchist reading list. I'll share some of the books that have influenced me. Endgame vols 1 & 2 by Derrick Jensen, are two of the most amazing and real books that I have ever read. The Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu, pretty much anything by Daniel Quinn, Pyotr Kropotkin's "The Conquest of Bread" and many other books. More importantly, my experiences lead me to embrace anarchy. Go out and be with the victims of capitalism. Live with them, eat with them and suffer with them. You'll understand pretty quickly why the poor would be better off with no 'bosses' or 'rulers'. (note: this was sent from my phone. Sorry that it lacks my usual polish.)
Just want to be sure Kropotkin's "Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution" is included.
The notion of temporary democratic configurations driving local action to meet specific problems, without "institutionalizing" these configurations, is presented by C. Douglas Lummis in Radical Democracy. Worth a read.
I'd recommend "Proposed roads to freedom" by Bertrand Russell and Chomsky.info .
Sharing "essential reading" is probably the best use of this site. I remember when I first got interested, typing "left wing economist" and stuff into search engines-it's such a fucking research project. I'm still discovering new people like Michael Hudson, William Blum, Steve Zarlenga. MORE READING LISTS!!
Michael Hudson is excellent in my opionion, also Richard Wolfff, David Harvey, and Webster Tarpley are good as well.
I have not yet read Zarlenga, thanks for sharing.
Black_Anarch August 28th, 2009 9:03 am..........I do believe this was common among Native American tribes.
Of course corporate money has us "hampered by corruption," but to infer that attempting to move the Democrats to the left will somehow lead to "leftist authoritarians" is a huge jump to illogic. Look at all the left leaning governments that are beginning to make a difference south of the US. The best thing that can happen in the US is a slow movement toward the left. Too fast will incite the far right wingers to complete craziness and violence. Is Obama slow (very?) and steady to the left or simply a centrist? If enough people care, we can nudge him left.
I do not think a "slow movement toward the left" is possible in the USA. Consider the rightward jump of the Labour party in England. Voting for Labour candidates is definitely "left" of voting for Tories. But, Labour is to the right of what the Conservative party was before the days of Margaret Thatcher. Since the US is culturally connected to the UK (our special relationship) I see the US taking this kind of rightward jump as being more likely than real leftward movement. Electoral politics cannot solve this problem. In fact, electoral politics will always give us the "right" and "left" conundrum.
"...I see the US taking this kind of rightward jump as being more likely than real leftward movement." I guess I agree if by "real" you mean 'strong' or 'considerable.' From the 1930s through the 1970s we had a lot of progressive legislation. While a return to this era is now more difficult with sophisticated (and sometimes not so sophisticated) corporate media control, it is still certainly possible with a lot of hard work. At this time there is no chance of a mass uprising of progressives to force huge change, but small and slow is possible. I find some optimism by the fact that the Republican party has become so tarnished that pretty much only the relatively small hard core base is willing to publicly back this Party of Wackos.
I'm afraid the "small and slow" approach will only lead to ever slower and infinitesimally smaller. If we're forever to stay confined to baby steps, we'll never emerge from the infantalism of the political culture in which we're so pathetically imprisoned.
I think you'll find that electoral politics only imposes either-or choices in the case of first-past-the-post/winner-take-all systems. Systems even slightly more complex than that (requiring an absolute majority vote rather than a plurality to change officeholders, for example) totally change the dynamics.
(I've just this moment discovered that I'm not the only one to think that election systems might qualify as "chaotic", as in butterfly-causes-storm chaotic.)
My thinking of slow and steady to the left or a centrist is more a matter of semantics than actions. Here at CD we all know Obama is more or less a centrist, but I definitely think we will get some progressive actions. Conservatism has had a strong hold on many for the last 3 decades, but I think that is beginning to change as younger people see the total craziness of many conservatives and Republicans. I do not see a large number of Americans, poor, middle class or elites, wanting a right wing crazy as President. Turning the nation on a dime from Bush to strongly liberal ain't gonna happen.
It puzzles me that some people still call Obama is a centerist. He is rolling on the same tracks W Bush was rolling on. Did he change anything that W Bush was doing?
The insurance companies will get a gift from Obama with his health care "reform",
exactly as the Pharmaceutical companies got a gift from W Bush by his Medicare Drug option. In my humble opinion, centrist mean right of center, and Obama is far from the center to the right exactly like W Bush.
"Well the obvious objection to a purge is that centrists will be going to the Republican party and taking corporate money with them."
Don't be too sure. The hardcore right-wingers are determined to purge the GOP of anyone remotely moderate in any way.
The hard core right wingers are being marganilized I would say, new and younger leaders are emerging in the Republican Party.
The danger of purges is that you become a one note party, an echo chamber which always leads to defeat because it is a sterile enviornment. The Democrats are indeed on that course.
I might be biased from the media I monitor at work, but it seems to me that conservative media outlets are giving all their support to the more extreme elements of the GOP, and trying to force out the moderates.
You are correct. However I would suggest to you that those outlets, especially radio do not represent the bulk of Republicans or folks to the Right any more than something like the Nation or MoveOn represent most liberals or left wingers.
The moderates of both parties I suspect will be coming to the fore. As Bush/Cheney was rejected wholesale last time, Pelosi/Reid...Obama will be rejected next time.
I don't know how you can consider Obama an extremist :-)
Smiles indeed! It seems to depend on the day doesn't it?
To see the Democratic Party as anything other than a graveyard for real change is a mistake. Like Charlie Brown valiantly running to kick the football that Lucy has so generously agreed to hold for him well intentioned progressives fall for the vague promises of the democrats over and over again.
Not to put too fine of a point on it but our political system is a duopoly of pigs and whores. While I have found myself from time-to-time consorting with the whores I am always sorry for it later. This is not to say that there is absolutely no difference between the two parties. But, as a practical matter despite any short-term satisfaction voting democratic may provide (after all Sarah Palin has no chance now of becoming president) it is a fool's errand to place any trust in anyone of Obama's ilk.
Thatch, your comment is insulting to whores. They're honest workers for the most part - not like Dem/Rep politicians at all. E.g., whores will take anyone's money and give them what they paid for. Capitalist politicians give the rich what they pay for, but stab the rest of their clients in the back.
"Capitalist politicians give the rich what they pay for, but stab the rest of their clients in the back."
I think you'll find it's even worse than that: they give the rich what *WE* pay for. Look at the data on the payoff for corporate contributions: it's typically several orders of magnitude larger than the contributions, so that $10K to a key politician might result in $10M more profit via tax breaks, no-bid contracts, H1B visas, etc.
The New Rape-public remains worthless, except as the raw material for collages and papier mache projects.
Thasnk you sir. I hasd been trying to think of positive use for TNR and you came up with two when I couldn't think of anything.
I can think of a couple of other uses for it as well, but I can't print it here.
Darn....I should have thought of one of those you mention right away!
New Republic sez: "But one day, Joe Lieberman's warnings in this campaign will look prophetic."
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It appears to have misspelled "pathetic".
If the Democrats are unable to pass a health reform bill that helps the people get quality, affordable health care rather than fatten corporate fat cats, it will be hight time for the progressives in both House and Senate to split from the Democratic caucus and create their own. At top down creation of a new, progressive party in America seems, in my opinion, to be the most feasible way to get some competition (pun intended) in the political system.
Would it take less time and energy to create and build a new, progressive party then would be needed to push the corporate dominance from the Democratic Party and return some semblance of internal democracy to the Democratic Party?
Not without changing the current electoral system. Right now the system is rigged to prevent the emergence of a competing progressive political force the bottom up. The only real challenge to the party duopoly in recent memory has been a top down right wing effort by Ross Perot. Thus, the easiest way to create a truly progressive party is for the elected Democratic progressives to split from the party and create their own progressive caucus. Since the Republican party is currently reduced to a pulp, the timing would be ideal.
'it will only occur from efforts on the part of Democrats to cease support for, and begin working to eject, those elements which keep the Party beholden to the same interests as the ones who own and control the so-called "other party."'
Sure, sure, we on the far left have been advocating for a long time that USans ostracize the elites from the society. Starting with the public institutions is a fine idea. Good work, Greenwald. But we need the power of the people behind the effort. We're wondering what is going to inspire them to join the effort. Maybe if the Repuks were to get three consecutive terms in the oval orifice they will impose the clamp on the people's skulls forcefuly enough to catalize a reaction, finally, ya think??
Jerry D Rose, black anarch, others
You need to read Murray Bookchin a very fine intellectual who founded the school of Social Ecology, wrote about the Spanish Anarchists and wrote The Ecology of Freedom and many more titles. Google him and learn about this man who is more well known in other countries than our own. I spent some time teaching Ecology and Feminism at the Institute for social Ecology and it was a great mix of the theoretical and the hands on. At its heart Social Ecology is about ending all forms of domination.
This is theory we need now. It addresses more democratic ways of governance.
Considering how ideological unwieldy the American two-party system has become (the GOP has conducted a purge, & now the New Republic is calling for one in the Democratic Party) & the concept of a "Big Tent" is for all intents and purposes, a sham; it is really time to consider the obvious solution to this -- doing away with the first-past-the-post electoral system. Most first world nations have the spectrum of political beliefs where just two major parties simply does not work...and that is now so in the USA. It is also no coincidence that voter participation rates in countries with parliamentary, multi-party political systems are usually higher than the USA by more than 15%. In fact, if the USA had a parliamentary system: both the Greens & the Libertarians would be much larger political players.
Yes! I heartily agree Nate W.: The fptp (winer takes all) electoral system is unfair to start with. It results in two-party dominated minority rule, which is inherently un-democratic. If the USA had a PR system or even an IRV/STV system we would have many more Greens and other non-Duopoly in Congress.
Also, (I realize this will never happen) the US Senate should be abolished and we should have a unicameral legislature the House of Reps (elected by PR).
Mr. Greenwald dives deep into the details of Duopoly politics, however I don't find it helpful in explaining the democratic deficit that we are faced with.
The two party system is a primary means in which to create an illusion of choice, very little removed from a de-facto one-party state.
It might be that the only way out is campaign finance reform. As long as the pols are bought the people don't have a voice.
It is kind of backwards to think you can change a party that has become right wing with endless "primary challenges". How often is it that a challenger has actually won over an incumbent? It's virtually unheard of. So no, that is extremely unlikely to be an effective solution.
But due to the size of the country, due to regulations that heavily favor the two pary system, and due to fragmentation of political culture in the US, building a third party from the ground up is also nothing more than a long shot, even with a partially collapsed economy! To say that real democracy is feeble in the US would be an understatement.
So, what has to happen is that the existing progressive representatives (about 60 of them) need to break off and become a new party. From that real life base of real, actual seats, that new party would almost automatically grow rapidly, and would more so and more so put a lot of pressure on both of the existing right wing parties.
Dennis Kucinich and so forth absolutely need to do this, if not now, at least in a few years from now if the economy fails to recover to any extent. (I mean the real economy: jobs, number of new small businesses, etc., not the rich man's economy: the stock market, executive salaries, etc.).
A more creative but possibly pie in the sky plan would be to beg for assistance from the Canadian NDP party to form a "US Division". The idea would be that the US NDP could develop with start-up assistance from the Canada NDP.
After awhile, a synergistic feedback loop from the US NDP back to Canada would improve the prospects of the Canadian NDP. The potential benefits for the Canadian NDP are very large; remember that the US has roughly ten times as many people (and what, seven times as much potential "political money"?) as does Canada. The main point is, both countries' NDP would be strengthened from combining resources.
If goods and services can be transacted across international boundaries, why not political organizations? Political parties have developed and been maintained partly with international assistance throughout history, though never to any big extent to date in what has been an insular political culture in the US.
For the most rapid improvement in the dismal US situation, combine the two ideas I have outlined together. At least some of the US progressives in the House (and Bernie Sanders in the Senate) would nicely fit in with the Canadian NDP.
-How often is it that a challenger has actually won over an incumbent?
Didn't a "lefty" win against leiberman? Then the Democrats supported the loser, Leiberman vs their own (supposed) candidate in the election.
-So, what has to happen is that the existing progressive representatives (about 60 of them) need to break off and become a new party
I've long thought this a sensible suggestion. As long as they are part of a "progressive caucus" as they say, inside the Dem party, they are vulnerable to financial pressure from Obama, the Dem leaders any time push comes to shove. Their political "oxygen" can be shut off by the Dems, at will. They need independant organization and money, if they are to not simply be rolled over at the end of the day.
So yeah, why not start with the sixty or whatever progressives who already have seats and use that as a base to work for healthcare and all the other things that Obama is not going to willingly deliver?
Sounds fine to me. Do you reckon they'll budge?
Parties are not primarily instruments of ideology, but organizations of power. Kucinich and Biden can dwell in the same party because whatever their fidelity to a constituency or a set of beliefs has little to do with party membership or even their standing within the party.
The self-interest of constituencies operates differently. We care about those ideas and about which bills pass and which actions get executed.
Our loyalty must predominantly ride with ideas, not with institutions.
Are the 60 reps progressive, albeit Dems? Fine.
Hey, if 60 Repugs voted progressive, why not?
If they go and vote the party line, though, we cannot spare them. If they don't do the job, out with the lot of them.
They'd likely lose their seniority, including committee appointments. Those are powerful positions: everything has to go through committees before it gets to the floor. Lieberman was guaranteed by the Dem establishment (R. Emanuel, Prop.) to keep his seniority, despite running as an Independent against the nominee of the Democratic Party, but that was a special case. First the Dems were in a minority at the time, secondly he brought lots of campaign financing clout and third he was a reliable vote on the kind of Democratic issues that weren't financed by Hartford Insurance.
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William Rood, patriotic citizen of the world
Rather than a "progressive" or "liberal" party, why not expand the "tent" to include principled people who are currently labeled "conservative" or "libertarian," such as Ron Paul (and his considerable supporters). It would basically be an anti-corporate, anti-elitist, anti-corruption party, though it would want a more positive-sounding name. Here are the basic platform planks on which common ground can be made between "progressives" and others:
1. Sharply reduce military spending. Bring the troops home. Close most overseas bases.
2. A non-interventionist foreign policy.
3. Federalism and devolution of power back to state and local governments. Repeal NCLB and abolish the Department of Education. Leave health care to states; that's how Canada got single-payer, with Saskatchewan leading the way in the '40s. No unfunded mandates.
4. End corporate subsidies. No more corporate personhood.
5. End the war on drugs.
6. Break the power of the Federal government.
As far as a name goes, perhaps Populist or Federalist.
My Congressman's not for me,
He's owned by Big Pharmacy,
Of him I sing
Land where my father died,
By corporate homocide
Denied health care
Oh say are those corporate-owned Congressmen yet slave.
for Big Pharmacy, and the money they crave.
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
Here's another:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Corporate States of America
And to the Oligopoly for which it stands
One Market under the almighty Dollar
With exploitation and debt peonage for all."
"The bad news is our failed health care system won't get fixed, because it exists entirely within the confines of yet another failed system: The political entity known as the United States of America." -- Matt Taibbi
It's doubtful that very many CD readers would disagree with Matt Taibbi's characterization of America's political system as a failure, and yet it's also true that it would not as resistant to change as it's been were it not for the fact that it provides highly satisfactory outcomes to at least some members of our society. And the further unpalatable truth is that under the system's current configuration, those who do prefer a continuation of the status quo are the only ones whose opinions really matter.
So many of the conflicts within our society are framed as a contest between liberalism and conservatism, but the historical reality is that in all western societies, going back to the ancient Greek city states, the most significant economic and political fault line has not been between left and right, but between the patrician class and the plebeian class. And unfortunately for us plebes, the patricians have invariably had the best of it.
The American revolution was fomented primarily by members of the colonial aristocracy, who had grown tired of their second class status in relation to their British counterparts, and saw their economic interests best served by severing ties with the mother country. The American Constitution was also a product of members of the patrician class, whose overriding purpose was once again to promote and safeguard the economic interests of its architects.
Lofty rhetoric aside, our hallowed Founding Fathers had little use for the idea of an egalitarian system of government in which the weight of votes would count for more than the weight of gold. As James Madison articulated during the convention debate: "[The government] ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority." Or in the more trenchant words of John Jay (first US Supreme Court Chief Justice): "The people who own the country ought to govern it."
The machinations of the ruling elite have always been highly malignant to some (aboriginals, Africans and their descendents, various luckless third-worlders) -- what has changed in the current generation is that there is now hardly any strata of society that is safe from their predations. And we can no doubt conjecture at length as to exactly why this is. Is it the character of our oppressors, the times we live in, or both?
But what is indisputably true, in my view, is the fact that our nation's core operating system was designed to produce a very specific outcome, which is the permanent ascendancy of private greed over public need. This it does very efficiently and reliably, with substantial and effective mechanisms in place to discourage and frustrate any innovation or alteration.
And it's just as clear to me that the time is long past for employing conventional tools and strategies -- that is, dutifully working within the system -- when it's painfully obvious that the system's integrity is so hopelessly compromised as to render all such efforts futile. What's desperately needed is a full-bore frontal assault. To embrace a revolutionary mindset is a given. The only real question is exactly what form such an effort should take, in order to give it the best chance of success.
My personal opinion is that the English nobility of 1215 essentially had the right idea as to how one determined, motivated and well-organized segment of society could best effect sweeping systemic change in a peaceful and non-violent context, and that their strategies, tactics and objectives could and should be studied and adapted to fit the exigencies of the present age.
so long as we are talking about the trash and the coporate owned puppets let's start with puppetto number 1 and that would be obama
let's throw him out - he can go back to hyannisport and rent the 30 K/mo cottage he is staying in this week
the republicats have almost polished off the republic and the days of reaction are dwindling down
we need to do something before we are all put into the fema prisons
I don't understand the accepted logic on this site that the democrats can't be reformed. I'm with Glen-purge away. The only chance is to change popular culture and make the selfish ideologies of the right taboo. Popular artists need to speak-out along with other "respected" citizens like lawyers, economists and doctors. If people won't vote for Kucinich, why would they elect Nader?
-I don't understand the accepted logic on this site that the democrats can't be reformed
Why bother trying to reform the Dems? Take healthcare, they are against universal healthcare while most Americans are for it. I thought the goal was to get good healthcare not "reform" the dems. They, the Dems/Republicans, Baucus, Biden, Obama, McCain, Palin, they are all against Universal single payer, the obvious solution to cutting costs while providing care to all citizens.
So Start with the Progressives in congress, working with those who have been fighting for Universal care for decades, yes this includes Nader, and tell the Dems/Repubs that they won't get those sixty, seventy seats in congress untill you get your healthcare.
If people voted as they should in local elections the party would be full of Kucinichs and Naders- It would still be called the Democrat party but It'd be completely different to what it is now. As long as representatives have an independent vote and don't "toe the party line" we're just arguing over a name, right? Official parties just simplify things for people who don't follow politics.