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Air Strike on Civilians Reverberates Beyond Afghanistan
WASHINGTON - Amid growing European discontent over the war in Afghanistan, the head of U.S. and NATO forces apologised Monday for an air strike that killed at least 27 civilians in the central part of the country Sunday.
"We are extremely saddened by the tragic loss of innocent lives. I have made it clear to our forces that we are here to protect the Afghan people, and inadvertently killing or injuring civilians undermines their trust and confidence in our mission," Gen. Stanley McChrystal, commander of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), said in a statement.
"We will re-double our efforts to regain that trust," McChrystal continued.
Sunday's attack consisted of a U.S. helicopter firing on several vehicles as they traveled towards Kandahar, the largest city in southern Afghanistan.
But the political implications of the attack, which, according to the Wall Street Journal, was carried out by helicopter-borne U.S. Special Operations Forces (SOF), could be serious, not just in Afghanistan itself, but also among electorates in Europe and Canada that have become increasingly opposed to their militaries' involvement in the war.
This is likely to be especially true in the Netherlands, whose government collapsed Saturday amid negotiations on whether or not to keep troops in Afghanistan.
The air strike took place in a district controlled by the Dutch army, and if Dutch forces assisted in the attack it could have serious political consequences in the Netherlands.
The attack was carried out on the apparently mistaken belief that a convoy of vehicles was transporting Taliban fighters toward eastern Helmand province, where U.S. and allied forces have launched a major offensive. That it took place in an area where Dutch forces are concentrated is likely to strengthen those factions in the Netherlands opposing any extension in the Hague's participation in the war beyond August.
The Dutch troops have been central in the war effort, despite their low numbers. The New York Times reported last week that the Netherlands - whose troop contribution to the Afghanistan mission is one of the highest per capita - have been subject to a higher casualty rate then other coalition forces, including the U.S., because of their postings in the dangerous southern province of Oruzgan.
The lethal strike came despite the implementation of stricter rules of engagement regarding strikes ordered by Gen. McChrystal last summer when he took command of NATO/ISAF.
This is the most lethal incident in which civilians were killed by U.S.-led forces since last September when a German-ordered air strike on fuel tankers hijacked by the Taliban killed 140 people, the majority of whom were civilians.
ISAF officials insisted Monday that the attack is being investigated to determine whether it violated those rules of engagement.
In a statement released Monday, ISAF officials said "Yesterday, a group of suspected insurgents, believed to be en route to attack a joint Afghan-ISAF unit, was engaged by an airborne weapons team resulting in a number of individuals killed and wounded& After the joint ground force arrived at the scene and found women and children, they transported the wounded to medical treatment facilities."
Afghan President Hamid Karzai has frequently condemned the killings of civilians by U.S. and NATO forces but has found himself largely powerless in terms of effecting change.
"The repeated killing of civilians by NATO forces is unjustifiable, we strongly condemn it," Karzai's cabinet said in a statement issued in Kabul. It said 27 civilians, "including four women and one child," were killed in the attack.
In another effort to improve the perception of ISAF forces, McChrystal revised the rules of engagement last summer to counter the rising numbers of civilian deaths attributed to coalition troops, and the increasing resentment toward his occupying army and the corrupt Afghan government that accompanies it.
The shift in policy restricted the use of air strikes to situations where coalition forces were in imminent danger.
Though McChrystal's policy is thought to be responsible for a downturn in the number of civilian casualties, it is not clear that this has translated into meaningful improvements for everyday Afghans.
According to the United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA), the number of civilian casualties caused by coalition forces dropped by a third last year. However, the number of people killed by the Taliban and other militants rose by about 40 percent.
Although U.S./NATO forces have killed fewer civilians, the Taliban has killed more, bringing the number of civilian deaths to a 15 percent increase since last year, according to UNAMA.
In another effort to mitigate popular backlash surrounding these deadly attacks, a compensation system for death, injury or damage resulting from coalition operations was devised.
According to the Associated Press, the death of a child or adult is worth 1,500 to 2,500 dollars, loss of limb and other injuries 600 to 1,500 dollars, a damaged or destroyed vehicle 500 to 2,500 dollars, and damage to a farmer's fields 50 to 250 dollars.
Still, the protection of the population is central to the coalition forces' mission in Afghanistan, according to McChrystal's statement.
Consequently, as long as violence persists, it becomes almost irrelevant who is causing it, says David Wood, a veteran U.S. war correspondent.
"The perception among most Afghans is that the United States is responsible when Afghans are killed," he wrote last week in 'Politics Daily'.
"It may seem counterproductive for the Taliban to deliberately kill civilians, as their strategic goal is to win the support of the population against the government in Kabul and its foreign backers," he added. "But counterinsurgency experts say intimidation tactics are extremely effective - at least for a while."
UNAMA reported that 2009 was the deadliest year for civilians in Afghanistan since the toppling of the Taliban regime by U.S. forces in 2001.
This latest incident comes during the largest yet offensive for U.S.-led coalition and Afghan forces, which have been fighting to secure the former Taliban stronghold of Marja in southern Helmand Province.
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Show All"By the way, I would reach out to the first George Bush. You know, one of the things that I think George H.W. Bush doesn't get enough credit for was his foreign policy team and the way that he helped negotiate the end of the Cold War and prosecuted the Gulf War. That cost us 20 billion dollars. That's all it cost. It was extremely successful. I think there were a lot of very wise people. So I want a bipartisan team that can help to provide me good advice and counsel when I'm president of the United States."
- Barack Obama on LARRY KING LIVE: March 20, 2008
There it is.
Obama lauding the way GHW Bush "prosecuted" the Iraq War. Surprised? Well now maybe the next Repub Prez will praise Obama's mass slaughter of Afghani's here in the bi-partisan slaughterhouse.
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Those who are destroying our earth and our communities at breakneck speed are as humble and caring as barracudas, with all apologies to the more gentle piscine creatures, and will not easily or at all relinquish their stranglehold on the gasping planet or your neck.
What it will take is nothing short of large scale purposeful sustained direct actions that bring the system to a halt. This means tremendous sacrifice. This means discomfort. In this there is the inevitably of tremendous risk.
The only remedy will be when people begin to get interested in taking back active control of the processes that rule their lives.
There is no political solution within the system as it is.
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Here's a quote:
"The world of Nineteen Eighty-Four is built around a never-ending war involving the book's three superstates, with two allied powers fighting against the third. But as Goldstein's book explains, each superstate is so strong it cannot be defeated even when faced with the combined forces of the other two powers. The allied states occasionally split with each other and new alliances are formed. Each time this happens, history is rewritten to convince the people that the new alliances were always there, using the principles of doublethink. The war itself never takes place in the territories of the three powers; the actual fighting is conducted in the disputed zone stretching from Morocco to Australia, and in the unpopulated Arctic wastes. Throughout the first half of the novel, Oceania is allied with Eastasia, and Oceania's forces are combating Eurasia's troops in northern Africa."
The author expects Republicans to praise Obama ?
Each time the Republicans whine about Obama being too liberal, Obama moves further to the right. Why would Republicans praise him when their strategy for pushing him to the right is working so well?
The US was facing a crisis: a severe shortage of apologies, which will be needed in the upcoming weeks. Fortunately, Israel has come to the rescue: they have located several hundred in an old storehouse which they have no use for now since they no longer issue apologies.
I have to joke about it -- I read all these things and this morning realized that although I don't actually believe in the existence of 'Evil' or the 'Devil' I can feel them, almost palpably, and as my stomach siezes up I must laugh or cry -- make jokes or go crazy from the horror of it. The country blows away it's wealth, along with human beings all over the world, in a prolonged, dishonest, maniacal, fit of sociopathic rampage.
How does one apologize -- even with an empty and insincere apology, to a dead person? Can vampires speak to the dead?
Question: when our bombs are dropped how do we tell the difference between innocent Taliban and bad Taliban, between Taliban and civilian Afghans? In other words we know we are going to kill innocents.STOP THE MADNESS!
My name is General McKristallnacht and I'm from the government here to kill you.
-"The perception among most Afghans is that the United States is responsible when Afghans are killed"
How did they get that idea? Mad props for the corrupt puppet leader Karzai though, even though American bombs are all that keeps him in power, I'm sure he, as Clinton would say, "feels the pain" of the Afghans that Americans are killing to keep him in the lifestyle to which he is accustomed.
"According to the Associated Press, the death of a child or adult is worth 1,500 to 2,500 dollars, loss of limb and other injuries 600 to 1,500 dollars, a damaged or destroyed vehicle 500 to 2,500 dollars, and damage to a farmer's fields 50 to 250 dollars."
With all disrepect, I believe the AP is blowing hot air as it does in every single story that it files about any aspect of the Afghan military operation. More precisely they are putting out as fact whatever the Pentagon propaganda mill puts out as a briefing or press release.
The implication is that these amounts that different damages are "worth" are actually dispensed to the victims of our all-so-remorseful military forces. But are they? Can you imagine a scenario in which Lt. Colonel so and so goes to the home of Ahmad so and so and says: "Here is $2100 dollars which we have determined as the "worth" of your child whom we accidentally killed for which we are very very sorry. Can't spend U.S. dollars? We'll give you a pass to visit our military canteen and spend those dollars. Oh, and you need $250 for our having destroyed your livelihood by destroying your field? Sorry, forgot about that, will cut you another check. And your daughter lost an arm?? Now wait a minute." Never gonna happen, can barely even imagine that scenario; unless there are good bilingual lawyers who can prosecute your claim for you; and the only one around was killed in the last accidental bombing.
So why couldn't AP reporters actually act like reporters and actually talk to people about whether these "damages" are being awarded? Nah, they have to rush the latest press release into print and anyhow that's sooo I.F. Stone-ish.
"According to the Associated Press, the death of a child or adult is worth 1,500 to 2,500 dollars, loss of limb and other injuries 600 to 1,500 dollars, a damaged or destroyed vehicle 500 to 2,500 dollars, and damage to a farmer's fields 50 to 250 dollars."
Wow, if these killers did not have money, they'd just be killers!
Millitary apologies are merely another part of the war strategy. Their sincerity quotient is about as high as that of a rocket-propelled grenade.
Look on the bright side. McChrystal & Co. could be protecting you and I.
Doesn't McChrystal work for the Pentagon? And doesn't the Pentagon consider civilian deaths "bug splat"?
great. a "largely powerless" president in afghanistan, combined with a totally useless president here.
the mic, along with those who profit from weapons manufacturing, just smile.
Al Jazeera reported this morning that there were more deaths caused by a bombing outside a local police station in Laskur Gah, in Helmand Province. The Taliban is claiming responsibility as revenge killing for the US/NATO attack which killed civilians. The bombing killed civilians also.
There is only one way to stop civilian deaths. Since there is no declared war in Afghanistan, or Iraq for that matter, the deliberate killing of civilians is murder and should be treated as such, whether it is Taliban or US/NATO forces. Murder is under the jurisdiction of the local government.
Once US/NATO soldiers are convicted of murder and hung, I think they will think twice about killing 'suspected insurgents'.
The lives of civilians are worth more than the lives of US/NATO military as we are trying to win their hearts and minds. The prosecution for murder and resulting hangings would do a lot to show the Muslim world we are serious about peace - if we are.
Ths US/NATO military need to man up to their mistakes and take full blame and face full consequences.
2000 Dollars for a life. What genius in the US determined such a low value on Afghan lives? No wonder the US military thinks nothing of killing civilians - 8 million dead innocent civilians and counting.
Mookie 11:50 -- good thoughts except I believe in life imprisonment for murder.
But good luck Bush stayed out of the ICC just so the USA could commit war crimes with impunity.
I am disappointed no posters remarked that in the USA's mind an Afghan worth equals a used car.
Actually I believe the money is despensed probably through Afghans but I bet most of it goes to kill the invaders.
I sent clothing,not knowing it was going through the USA military, a few weeks later the USA masscred 100 plus outside Herat. When the murderers came to distribute used clothing in compensation they were stoned by the survivors.
People who support the Democrats, after millions needlessly slaughtered over the decades, are mentally ill.
There is little distinction between either party and Nazis.
Only the victims have changed.
Crimes committed by the fascist amerikan empire grow daily- all adding to the collapse of the empire !
considering the callousness and downright EVIL that the USA and NATO are engaging in with this continued Empire building where they have no business being , to begin with,
what is really quite amazing is how the USA regresses right back to what DEFINES it :
MONEY, PRICE, moneTIZING everything under the sun -- such as "1,500" dollars for every civilian Afghan dead....
(which is what to an american? a month's pay perhaps? -- worth a month's studio apartment?, credit card owed? maybe a nice wedding dress? how about a weekend vacation in acapulco?)...
and even at THAT - if the USA REALLY has to monetize things...it proves how NIGGARDLY it is...EVEN with its own game of MONEY ...when it involves CITIZENS of another country that it has just invaded, occupied and is turning into a HELL ZONE for its Grand Empire....in order to supposedly "protect our way of life" and keep "america secure" so that its oh-so-precious american LIVES can be SAFE....at the expense of lives elsewhere -- worth $1,500 each....about a few rounds of Machine gun fire....and maybe a few days' Salary for the USA's wonderful, PRECIOUSLY IMPORTANT "american lives" known as its soldiers, mercenaries etc..who do the KILLING of the "not precious enough afghan and other lives"...
and THIS is the country that PREACHES "fairness" as the "american way".....and actually Makes WAR everywhere in order to PREACH it!!!
amazing...what an ETHICAL , JUST and FAIR nation the USA is........isn't it wonderful? the world should be SO thankful....