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Hamas Armed Wing Vows to Respond to Gaza Strikes
GAZA - The military wing of Islamic Hamas movement on Sunday vowed to respond to a series of Israeli airstrikes in the Gaza Strip early Sunday morning in which around 10 Palestinians were wounded.
Palestinians check the damage on a smuggling tunnel following an Israeli airstrike on the border between Egypt and Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip, Sunday, Nov. 22, 2009. The Israeli military said its aircraft have attacked two weapons-making factories and a smuggling tunnel in the Gaza Strip early Sunday in retaliation for rocket fired into southern Israel from Gaza a day earlier.
(AP Photo/Eyad Baba) "The Israeli escalation will not be ignored and Ezz el-Deen al-Qassam Brigades will not fail to take actions," said Abu Obaida, a spokesman for the Hamas armed wing.
"We will defend ourselves with all means possible and we will counter any new offensives," Abu Obaida added in a statement sent to the press.
The Israeli raids, which took place after midnight, targeted metal workshops and smuggling tunnels in southern Gaza Strip town of Rafah, close to the Egyptian borders.
Abu Obaida said the Israel attacked Gaza after Palestinian factions had agreed to halt rocket-fire on Jewish communities near the enclave.
Shortly before the Israeli airstrikes, Hamas Interior Minister Fathi Hammad announced that the group had reached an agreement with other armed organizations to halt rocket attacks at Israel for the time being in order to avoid Israel's retaliation.
However, "this doesn't mean that the hands of resistance are shackled to respond to the Zionist aggression," he continued.
"The agreement to halt the rockets doesn't mean we are weak; it is to maintain the internal and external fronts and the higher interest of the Palestinian people," Abu Obaida said.
Meanwhile, a statement released by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said the airstrikes were launched "in response to the firing of a Qassam rocket at the city of Sderot on Saturday morning."
The latest rocket fire from Gaza caused no casualty or damage, and no militant group in the Palestinian enclave has claimed responsibility for the attack.
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Show AllNothing new here. Just the usual Israeli response to the threat of peace. The gangster state lives.
"The gangster state lives." –(Clovis)
And it must die exactly as it has lived– awash in blood and state terror– paid for and directly enabled by the bribed American war criminals in Washington. –(Jill Bains)
ERASED:
Wiped Off the Map / Documentary on Gaza Genocide / (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aU1H-knuSw&feature=related
(Part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpkS_orYM9E&feature=related
(Part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXv-qrbthc&feature=related
(Part 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvFXz8wkkFQ&feature=related
(Part 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjXFopL4uLM&feature=related
(Part 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA4ShI-QMYc&feature=related
Thanks for the links, Nahida. I'll have a look at the videos when I can.
Before Israel occupied Gaza in 1967, Palestinian baby mortality rate in Gaza was 30%.
During the Israeli occupation (1967- 1993), thanks to the Israeli health care system, baby mortality rate was dropped to 2%.
Half the people in Gaza owe their lives to the Israeli Health care system.
Since 1967, the population in Gaza has grown from 300,000 to 1.5 million.
Genocide, you say?
hmmmm. Israel concerned about Palestinian children?
Just a few quickly found links (there are plenty more):
Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service | July 2, 2001
Infant mortality rate in Gaza Strip has doubled.(Chicago Tribune)
| Franklin, Stephen | COPYRIGHT 2001 McClatchy-Tribune Information Services.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-76148806.html
AP , LONDON Friday, Mar 06, 2009
"Decades of violence and recent border closures in the Palestinian territories have resulted in major health problems, including malnutrition, stunted growth in children and high infant mortality rates, international experts said."
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2009/03/06/2003437695/print
The Guardian, Wednesday 7 January 2009
"In the three years after the withdrawal from Gaza, 11 Israelis were killed by rocket fire. On the other hand, in 2005-7 alone, the IDF killed 1,290 Palestinians in Gaza, including 222 children."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/gaza-israel-palestine
...and how much of the population growth in Gaza is due to displacement by Jewish settlers (illegal, let's not forget) in the West Bank?
And how much of the population of Israel are Middle-Eastern Jews who were displaced by Arab countries?
War is hell. No one is a saint.
"War is hell. No one is a saint."
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Hasbara talking point #3: "Everyone's bad"
Didn't we refute your lies time and time again in the past concerning the events leading up to and after 1948?
Why do you continue to peddle your lies? Only the mentally insane would repeat what they are shown to be inaccurate.
I get tired of posting the same information over and over. Perhaps I should just link to previous threads in which your lies have already been exposed by myself and others.
Do you have Alzheimer?
mohowk: "Didn't we refute your lies time and time again in the past concerning the events leading up to and after 1948?
Why do you continue to peddle your lies? Only the mentally insane would repeat what they are shown to be inaccurate."
No, mohawk, you never refute that solid fact. Jews were displaced from most of the Middel-East, mostly by Arabs. That's a fact not a lie.
You can shout all day it's a lie, you can deny the truth, you can say it never happaned. You can focus on one incident in Iraq where Zionists possibly may be responsible, while ignoring thousands of other incidents in Iraq and many other Arab countries.
Repeating a lie, will not make it true.
Here is one testimony that you, Mohawk, say is a lie, let's see you refute it:
http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1313923&ct=5118137
Repeating a lie, will not make it true.....Zionists possibly may be responsible.
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The historian professor Avi Shlaim is an Iraqi Jew living in Israel. His research and his own experience show that what you are peddling to be a lie. We've been down this path already and you continue to exhibit selective memory.
Riddle me this: Do you consider the systematic killing of more than 6,500 Palestinians since the year 2000 to be "ethnic cleansing" or not?
How about the house demolitions in occupied East Jerusalem and the land theft taking place there?
By the way, perhaps you should take your slogans to heart, especially the "repeating a lie, will not make it true" bit.
With regards to the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the Middle-East, please read my previous post, about focusing on one item while ignoring thousands of others.
As for East Jerusalem –Israel recently demolished 7 Arab houses that were built without a permit, while giving 5,000 permits for Arabs in East Jerusalem to build in East Jerusalem. What's the problem with that?
I live in Canada, and if I'll build a house without a permit, I'll be in trouble too.
Show me the source that backs up your allegation.
As for the permit issue, I think you enjoy pretending to be dense.
Is your house in Canada under a military occupation? Are you allowed to vote for the government that controls your neighborhood?
And you didn't answer my question regarding the ethnic cleansing or the genocide of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza in general.
Here is a sources that shows the 5,000 permits for Arabs to build in East Jerusalem.
http://docstalk.blogspot.com/2009/11/jerusalem-planning-over-5000-new-arab.html
Some obscure blog written by anyone (for all we know it could be YOU) does not prove anything.
Do you have any other propaganda you'd like to share with us today?
And you still didn't answer my question regarding the ethnic cleansing or the genocide of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza in general.
You never trust any data that I post anyhow.
Why don't you do the research yourself?
You can try by contacting the municipality of Jerusalem.
I don't trust the data you post because you consistently, without fail, post data that has the quality of the National Enquirer and Sarah Palin's "research".
You have zero scholarly research to back up your claims and you NEVER learn from credible sources even when presented with simple and basic facts that any adult should be able to comprehend.
What about this woman refugee? (From my comment on November 22nd, 2009 7:32 pm)
I asked you if she lied. You failed to respond:
Here is another source (from the Israeli ministry of Foreign Affairs):
http://eu.mfa.gov.il/mfm/web/main/document.asp?SubjectID=5800&MissionID=6&LanguageID=0&StatusID=0&DocumentID=-1
Jerusalem Municipality Advancing Plans To Build Over 5,000 New Housing Units for the Arab Public
19 November (Communicated by the Jerusalem Municipality Spokesperson)
The Jerusalem Municipality is currently advancing plans to build over 5,000 new housing units for the Arab public in Jerusalem.
Among the plans currently being promoted in the eastern part of the city are:
A master plan for Tel Edasa in the northern part of the city, including approximately 2,000 new housing units. The plan is due to be submitted local and district committees.
A master plan for the Arab-Aswahara area including approximately 2,500 housing units. It is being discussed by the local and district committees.
A master plan for the Dir Al-Amud and Al-Muntar areas in Beit Tsafafa for an additional 500 housing units is currently in advanced planning stages.
A master plan for Jebel Mukhaber including 172 housing units and public structures is due to be discussed for approval by the district committee.
The district committee is discussing an additional 50 and 72 housing units for Abu Tor and Tzur Bahker, respectively.
The Jerusalem municipality is implementing court decisions and enforcing the law. This is alongside advancing construction solutions and improving municipal services for residents of the eastern part of the city.
Mayor Nir Barkat points out that the municipality is working to meet the needs of all sectors and to allow the construction of new housing units in various neighborhoods in order to attract young people to the capital and encourage them to buy apartments there. "There is demand in Jerusalem for the construction of new housing units throughout the city. The municipality is working to meet the needs of residents, Jewish and Arab alike, in an equal manner," the Mayor added.
The interview linked below was conducted with Alison Weir, the founder of If Americans Knew.
Alison Weir's research exposes the lies perpetrated by the mainstream US media.
Israeli casualties are often counted twice or thrice by the mainstream US media while Palestinian casualties are under-reported so as to make Israel seem like the victim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUScFrnizL4
Yeah..."Genocide" is the wrong word...it's more like a blend of "collateral damage" and "Strange Fruit"...regardless, it's sadistically delicious.
....thanks to the Israeli health care system, baby mortality rate was dropped to 2%.
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It seems the cognitive dissonance and the propaganda that you peddle are the product of your mental illness and the failure of the Israeli health care system to treat you.
Seek treatment elsewhere.
Thank you, Nahida for the video links. They are devastating. Just reality and a camera. The beauty of humanity and the endless sorrow of our politics. Everyone on this string should see these videos and spread them around. They are the document of their moment. No commentary, only life, precious and fragile.
Why did Gazan militants fire Qassam rockets at the city of Sderot in the first place?
Maybe because Sderot was stolen from their parents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sderot
Shderot was founded in 1951. It started as a refugee camp for Jews who were displaced from Arab countries. (Mostly Morocco)
Shderot is part of pre-1967 proper Israel. It is not part of the occupied territories.
That Wikipedia is your best friend isn't, troll?
Your modus operandi is like the liar who asks his friend to confirm his lie, "Am I right, or am I right?"
Seeing as you're a Canadian Israeli (you don't read Hebrew though, that's strange), have you bothered researching Israeli sources, which incidentally confirm that you're a liar?
Are you caliming that I lie when I say that Shderot is within the 1967 borders?
Here is Shderot in google map (That's not Wikipedia):
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&source=hp&q=Shderot&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
It can clearly be seen that Shderon is in pre-1967 Israel.
Also, who said I don't read Hebrew?
What does Google maps have to do with anything?
Do you comprehend English or do you simply pretend to be stupid?
If you are a person who can read a map, you might see that Shderot is within 1967 broders.
If you can't read a map, please ask someone to help you.
In 1948, the village of Najd was razed and its Palestinian inhabitants expelled, many of them ended up in refugee camps in the Gaza Strip.
Do you have a college education? How old are you? I'm just wondering because I get the impression I'm speaking with a 10 year old child.
Many people and villages on both sides were destroyed by both sides.
About 700,000 Palestinians and 850,000 Jews became refugees.
So what's your point?
That Palestinian militants have the right today to freely fire Qassam rockets on civilians living in Shderot, while Israelis are not allowed to retaliate?
Would you equally agree that Jews should be allowed to fire rockets on Morocco, Labia, Syria, Yamane, Egypt and Iraq or any other Arab country where Jews were expelled from?
About 700,000 Palestinians and 850,000 Jews became refugees.
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Educate yourself:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=329736
Anyway, you're wasting my time. I've got better things to do.
By large, I agree with the article. Thank you for the link. It's a complex issue. Some Jews were expelled, and some voluntarily left. I’ll bet that the Palestinian refugee issue is just as complex.
Also, I would agree that Jews preffer not be called refugees while
Palestinians preffer to be called refugees. (After all, there are financial advantages for being a professional Palestinian refugee.)
Now I'll repeat the question that you seem to ignore (a question that has a direct link to the article):
In your highly educated opinion, do you think Palestinian militants have the right today to freely fire Qassam rockets on civilians living in Shderot, while Israelis are not allowed to retaliate?
What about Jews who suffered in the last century? Do they equally have the right to randomly fire rockets on civilian targets in countries that did Jews wrong 60 or 70 years ago?
I'm waiting for your superior academic and super intelligent adult reply. (A simple question from your 10 years old dumb unerducated Zionist, who is also mentally ill and blind liar.)
Letto, I am impressed. I had thought that you never read anything that contradicted your somewhat illusory view of the Israeli-Palestinian situation, and here you are agreeing with an article that basically says that most of the Jews who departed Arab countries did so of their own accord with no coercion. However, you then cannot stop yourself and still make a stupid statement like:
"Also, I would agree that Jews preffer not be called refugees while
Palestinians preffer to be called refugees. (After all, there are financial advantages for being a professional Palestinian refugee.)"
What does that mean? A refugee is in one definition that I quickly found on the web "an exile who flees for safety". If, as seems to be the case from the article you agreed with, the vast majority of Jews who left Arab countries did not flee for safety then they are not refugees, whereas it is pretty clear from the history that most Palestinians did flee for their safety - and therefore are refugees. I can see where you get the idea that you are dumb!
Jews don't like to be called refugees? Where did you get that idea? Just type "Jewish Refugee Organization" into Google. As to financial advantages of being a refugee - you might read (since surprisingly you do) http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=329736
Your question is really silly, isn't it? Suppose I asked you "Do you think the French Resistance was right to attack and kill the German occupiers?" Do you think that the Jews in Eastern European ghettos were right to resist the Germans? And what do you think of the activities of the Stern Gang and Irgun?
Just to back up what Mohawk has already given for your edification, here is another quote from an article by Jonathan Cook - who unlike you lives in Israel -
( http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=11257):
"although historians are agreed that the Palestinians were expelled by Israel in 1948, there is little evidence that most Arab Jews were forced from their homes.
According to the Israeli historian Avi Shlaim, whose family left Baghdad in 1950, most of these Jewish migrants left of their own accord, even if under pressure from Zionist agencies. The largest numbers came from Morocco, lured to Israel by Zionist officials who promised them a better life.
Only in the case of the small Jewish populations in Egypt and Libya was compulsion involved.
And third, and most embarrassing for Israel, there is overwhelming evidence that its secret Mossad agency carried out false-flag operations in Arab countries that endangered local Jews and significantly contributed to the exodus.
The involvement of Israel in bombing campaigns in both Egypt and Baghdad – and possibly elsewhere – is mentioned, for example, in the diaries of Moshe Sharrett, the former foreign minister. The explosions were designed, in his words, to “liven up the Middle East”.
A majority of the Jews from Arab states ended up in Israel, where today they constitute nearly half of the Jewish population. Shas makes it clear that its primary goal in raising the issue of restitution is to foil any attempt by the next government to reach a peace deal with the Palestinians."
You will note that I and others tend on the whole to use Israeli, or at least Jewish sources to counter your baseless statements. It seems to me that it would be reasonable then for you to give Palestinian, or at least Arab sources to back up your statements. I don't think anyone else here but you believe the Israeli government. In fact, that would seem to constitute clear evidence of your admitted mental illness.
Finally, do I detect another change in you? I may have missed it, but you don't seem to have used the term "anti-semitic" recently. Perhaps your mental illness is subsiding - there is hope for you yet.
Hey Letto, why don't you ever take part in any of the other discussions on CD? Why don't you ever give us your two cents on, say, Obama's health-care non-reform-reform, Sarah Palin or Thanksgiving?
Hi clovis,
I'm a Canadian - Israeli,
I personally believe the Canadian (and the Israeli) health system is better than the US one. That universal health system is the way to go. (Canadians have a higher life expectancy, for half the US spending.)
Having said that, the US health system is an American issue. Only American citizens should choose what kind of health system you should have. I see no reason why I, as a non-American, should join a discussion on an internal US issue.
I'm not a great supporter of Sarah Palin, especially on her views on intelligent design; nevertheless, both she and the US Thanksgiving are an internal US issues.
I sometime join discussions on environmental issues. (Tar-sands, Alternative energy, etc.)
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Gaza's War Crimes -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLZgNy46aTQ
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I would like to invite you to "enjoy" watching the "humanity" of those who are just "a little bit fascists"
BTW, those filmed are not the leaders, nor the politicians, nor the army, just the "normal" beings
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Gaza war tourism - Keren Levy: I'm a little bit fascist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjw8U0AcH4Q&feature=related
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Israel-Gaza border turns into picnic site for israeli gods!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZDlEcquWSY&feature=related
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Sick tourist attraction in Israel (w/ English subtitles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdNzBHuLUts&feature=related
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Welcome To Israel !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFLbXAmoxOo&feature=related
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Gaza's War Crimes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLZgNy46aTQ
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Zionist Extremism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_uEGQIsGU&feature=related
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History of Crimes Against Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhvd7vk9K2k&feature=related
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Gaza 2009: We Will Never Forget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9mkRiGbgZg
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Palestine - 60 years of Bloody Oppression
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxAxgokbOrE&feature=related
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The Age of Terror_The first Terrorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo4pRCuElfw&feature=related
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Democracy or apartheid? 2009 dignity for Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVFPjaCZ0g&feature=related
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People who call for equal rights for those savages, robbers, supremacists and murderers, I would say, you are welcome to take them as YOUR neighbours, you are welcome to even share your home with them, but please, do not force them upon us
As far as am concerned, they have crossed every red line, they have gone beyond the point of return, those who think that they can help them find their humanity......... good luck to you
No room in my heart for such evil
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To those who want to force the Palestinians to accept the robbery of their land, by asking us to share it with those who raped it, I offer them:
THE ULTIMATE CHALLENGE
I confess, we Palestinians
Don’t posses
Your excellent qualities
We lack so much compassion
And generosity
Unlike us, you profess
Lofty principles
And superior morality
Deep rooted ethics
And love of humanity
PROVE IT
Invite the Zionists home
Give it all away
Teach us altruism
And live in a camp
Be our model
In self-sacrifice
Live as a refugee
Give them your land
And if they want more
Try to understand
If they kill your wife
Offer them your child
If they shoot your eye
Tell them you don't mind
For the sake of peace
You'd become blind
You've always been thoughtful
So loving and kind
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The article concludes with, "The latest rocket fire from Gaza caused no casualty or damage, and no militant group in the Palestinian enclave has claimed responsibility for the attack".
Okay, so no known "militant" group of Palestinians claimed responsibility, which means it's likely that none of them committed these attacks on Sderot. Israel, however, does commit such attacks to then blame them on one or another of the known Palestinian "militant" groups, esp. Hamas. I've suspected this for a long time, much because the U.S. has long committed false flag attacks to then tell the population and world that it was some so-called foreign group of terrorists that committed the attacks, but it wasn't always about "terrorists", for it also happened during the U.S. war on the Philippines during the last decade of the 19th century and start of the 20th, when the U.S. sank its own USN ship and told Americans back in the USA that it was the Philippines that committed this attack on the U.S. ship. The U.S. and the U.K. have long committed covert "Salvador Option" sort of operations and this happened a lot in the present war on Iraq. One of those cases was totally exposed to the whole world when the two British SAS jerks dressed as Arabs and driving a car loaded with explosives and guns were caught driving into Basra in September of 2006, or maybe it was 2007. Another similar case, but with a foreign contractor driving a similar car, occurred when this jerk was caught somewhere in northern Iraq and I think this was after the case of the two British SAS covert operatives being caught. I think it's Robert Fisk who had written about Iraqis being stopped at occupation checkpoints in Baghdad and maybe outside of the city with the driver or the driver and occupants told to leave their vehicles there while they went to the nearby police station to be cleared. During their time at the police station, the checkpoint guards placed explosives in the vehicles and two such cases were learned before the cars exploded. One was a taxi driver who, after being cleared and then leaving the checkpoint, found that his car suddenly felt considerably heavier than before, so he stopped it and gave it an inspection, finding explosives under the back seat, inside the door panels in the back, and I think also in the trunk. Another of those cases was an Iraqi farmer driving harvest produce to market and his ten-year-old, or so, son or grandson was with him. While the farmer had to get himself cleared at the police station, the young boy sat outside, away from the truck, but while still able to see it and he saw checkpoint guards placing an object about the size of a ... mellon or water mellon among the mellons on the truck. The boy told his elder about what he saw and they checked, surely after having left the checkpoint, but it's been a while since i read the article, and they found that the checkpoint guards had placed a bomb among the farm produce on the truck.
Many enough of the so-called suicide-bomber cars had NO ONE in them when they blew up. The vehicles were planted with explosives where they blew up and Iraqi resistance never claimed responsibility for this, and for good reason. They didn't commit these bombings, just like they didn't commit the bombing of the mosque in Samara.
All of that sort of "business" in Iraq is referred to as "Salvador Option in Iraq", for which there's an index at www.brusselstribunal.org. Max Fuller has some "heavy duty" articles there about this, too, and it's all part of these black ops of the USA, but also very different from the above stories or events, as well as starting very early into the war on Iraq, maybe even prior to Bush having stood in front of the "Mission Accomplished" sign on some US aircraft carrier, a USN ship anyway.
Israel has committed false flag attacks, including on two key Israeli locations in England, if not in London. I think one was an embassy while the other was some Israeli bank, but whatever they were, the information is online and it's Israel that committed these attacks on Israeli facilities in England to then blame Muslim "terrorists".
Over the past couple of months or so, there was an article in which the author wrote about Israel committing false flag attacks on Israel and sometimes or always using treasonous Palestinians, who knew they were working for Israel and that Palestinians were to be blamed, but not the traitors who partook in these false flag attacks with Israel.
U.S.-Israel wants to dominate over all of Palestine, no doubt about it being possible, and it's clear they'll do anything and everything evil to achieve their delusional ends or goals.
This seems to be enough reason for Palestinian resistance to NOT commit any attacks on any part of Israel, including illegitimate parts like the criminal and insane settler area(s). Let Israel continue its false flag attacks, and help these to be exposed; instead of giving Israel what it wants, which is to be attacked by real Palestinian resistance in order to "justify" Israel continuing to murder, massacre the Palestinian people and destroy what little they have left for a country. Instead of "justifying" Israel's supreme international criminality, help to expose it by laying down arms and by bringing, somehow, greater exposure to Israel's false flag attacks blamed on Palestinians.
That's probably not a winning solution, either, but if it isn't, then there evidently is NONE; unless Americans finally cease to elect evils into political representation.