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Americans Won't Back Long Afghan War: Gates
WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Robert Gates said U.S.-led forces must gain ground against insurgents in Afghanistan by next summer to avoid a public perception the war is unwinnable, the Los Angeles Times reported on Sunday.
US Marines in Helmand Province, Afghanistan. US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, in a newspaper interview published Sunday, that US-led forces in Afghanistan must show progress by next summer to avoid the public perception that the conflict has become unwinnable. (AFP/File/Manpreet Romana) While noting that the Taliban militants would not be defeated within a year, Gates told the newspaper it was critical that the U.S. military and its allies show they were making progress in the Asian nation.
"After the Iraq (war) experience, nobody is prepared to have a long slog where it is not apparent we are making headway," Gates said in an interview. "The troops are tired. The American people are pretty tired," he said.
The U.S. public's souring attitude toward the war in Iraq, where more than 4,300 U.S. troops have been killed since 2003, cut popular support for former President George W. Bush and is cited by some as a factor for his party's huge losses in the 2008 election.
The Obama administration has shifted its strategy to make the battle in Afghanistan a higher priority.
Washington is sending 21,000 more troops to Afghanistan in a bid to counter the Taliban, who now control a large swath of territory, and it has named a new commander to lead the NATO-backed effort.
"This is where we are really getting back into the fight," said Gates, who is overseeing the new strategy.
After U.S.-led forces drove out the Taliban in 2001 for harboring al Qaeda leaders responsible for the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, the Islamist extremists retreated to havens inside Pakistan, regrouped and launched an insurgency.
Their success in the past three years has caught the United States off guard and prompted concerns of a wider rebellion that could engulf Afghanistan and further destabilize Pakistan, its neighbor and nuclear power.
The additional U.S. troops will reinforce roughly 70,000 international troops already in Afghanistan. NATO leaders also have agreed to boost troop levels by 3,000 to provide security ahead of an August presidential election.
U.S. and British troops recently launched an operation across southern Afghanistan to try to recapture territory from the Taliban and improve security, but they have suffered heavy losses in the offensive, largely because the militants are using powerful roadside bombs to deadly effect.
(Writing by Paul Simao)
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15 Comments so far
Show AllExpect the Taliban to adapt their own version of the "Fabian Strategy" (Rome's successful tactic versus Hannibal in the 2nd Punic War). Expect the USA to react badly to it, as the US military, though trained in counter-insurgency warfare, will be fatally hindered by their lack of Pashto & Dari speakers.
We're creating terrorists faster than we can kill them.
Isn't that the point?
Now that you've admitted defeat, Gates, stop wasting lives and money for the next year.
Or has the statement to be released next year already been composed? It goes like this: "Now that progress has been made in the last year, we can continue the endless war . . . "
-- Their success in the past three years has caught the United States off guard --
Bwahahahahaha!! (Note the TWO exclams for exceedingly excessive exuberance)
Who's been caught off guard?
Not those of us here who saw this coming, not hundreds of strategists and historians past and present, not millions of protesters world-wide, not even those who want unending war and death for their profits and prophets, and who want to create more terrorists in order to have more enemies to scare people with.
The only people 'caught off guard' are those with blinders on their eyes and crap stuffed into their ears, often crap from outfits such as Reuters.
For those religious types among us,
GOD DAMN WAR !! Got it?
And in other news.....Gates has said that North Korea's soldiers are starving.....
"The famine of the mid-1990s has affected the physical and even intellectual development of those that are now coming into the zone who would be eligible for military service," he added.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/20/2628447.htm
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Yep, you can really trust the military types to keep you appraised of facts.
Americans won't care about Afghanistan being unwinnable if they're kept too busy forever trying to keep home & family together and putting food on the table....
Gates has been to busy sucking on Bush to see the failure there. Now he is pulling on Obama, and will make him a failure also. Isnt failure Republicans trademark?
"After U.S.-led forces drove out the Taliban in 2001 for harboring al Qaeda leaders responsible for the September 11, 2001..."
Even after 8 years, the BIG LIE continues to propagate. Well done Reuters, a class POS media outlet.
There is no evidence connecting Osama bin Laden with the 9/11 attacks. George W Bush confirmed as much when on 13 March, 2002, Bush stated "I truly am not that concerned about him" when asked "Where is bin Laden?", and General Richard Myers, Chair of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, on 6 April 2002 stated "The goal has never been to get bin Laden".
Why are we there? As a foreign power we kill more local civilians than alqueda. How to the Afghans really see us?
The CIA dosn't lie about what they do or not do, and the rest of our government agencies tell the truth.
Thats why the totals on the number of troops killed and wounded in in these two colonial ocupations is acctepted as the truth.
What if the numbers were really doubled ? Or trippled?
Ever wonder what the real reason was for not allowing pictures of returning fallen soldiers.
Maybe , they did not want us counting.
Maybe , if Americans could see that 95% of the people of Iran and Afghanistan were hard working family oreinted people , with tough lives, just like us, 95% percent of Americans would not have allowed these wars.
Give it up Gates, Obomber, all you warmongers- just quit.
get out of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Palestine. stop war now
If war is the answer then what is the question?
If war is the answer why is murder a crime?
If war is the answer why is life so precious?
If war is the answer why not teach it in kindergarten?
If war is the answer why capture any?
If war is the answer let God sort them out.
Satire or truth?Tony
Mr. Gates,
Americans don't live in the future. Neither does the Afghan, Iraq or any other war we are presently involved with that you aren't talking about.
Americans DON'T BACK your fucking wars NOW, you shameless traitor!
Go back to texas and eat prairie dog shit, you murderer.
I just came across the following article at Uruknet.info.
"More than 150 UK casualties in a week in Helmand
• Figure in addition to 17 soldiers killed this month
• Field hospital has to break rules to treat wounded",
by Richard Norton-Taylor, July 21, 2009
(triple-clicking the url, copying and pasting works for me)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jul/21/record-uk-casualties-helmand-taliban
QUOTE:
Recent fighting in Afghanistan led to a record number of British casualties since the start of the war against the Taliban, with more than 150 badly wounded within a week, defence officials said yesterday.
The figures are in addition to the 17 soldiers killed this month so far. The latest, the victim of a roadside bomb while on foot patrol near Sangin on Sunday, was Corporal Joey Etchells, 22, from 2nd Battalion the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers. It was his third deployment to Afghanistan. He told his local paper, the Oldham Evening Chronicle, last month: "It's a great job and a big responsibility to have out here, but I really enjoy it. I can't see myself ever wanting to do anything else."
His death takes the British toll in Afghanistan since 2001 to 186.
END QUOTE
186 since eight years ago, 17 this month alone, in addition to 150 badly injured this month. Sounds like Obama and NATO have things running "smoothly" in Afghanistan, eh.
I wonder if this might at all be related to the UK government, the PM Brown government, wanting Brits to support the sending of more UK troops to Afghanistan. After all, if this doesn't motivate Brits to support this, then I guess nothing would.
QUOTE, CONTINUED:
More than 157 soldiers were treated at the field hospital at Camp Bastion in Helmand province last week, according to army medics. Numbers were so high that medics have been forced to break their own rules by accepted more wounded than the hospital is designed to take.
"The last few weeks have been an extremely busy period. There have been injuries like you've probably never seen or experienced," one medic told BBC Radio 4's Today programme, referring to the horrific wounds explosions roadside bombs can inflict.
END QUOTE
This is all quoted sic, btw.
QUOTE, CONTINUED:
The latest figures officially published by the Ministry of Defence reveal a significant increase in the number of wounded even before the latest fighting, which has produced the highest recorded so far. Forty-six soldiers were admitted to field hospitals in Afghanistan in June, compared with 24 in May and 11 in April. The figures are to some extent seasonal, they were higher last summer than in the winter.
END QUOTE
150 over the past week or so, plus 46 in June, 24 in May and 11 in April. My, my, this makes 225 British troops wounded or injured there since the start of April. Seems like the Taliban are doing a "bang-up job".
QUOTE, CONTINUED:
With more than 150 admitted last week, the next set of official figures will reveal a huge increase over last month's total.
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Thanks for that help. We surely couldn't have performed the basic arithmetic ourselves. I mean, like it's difficult for most readers to realise that 150 is a lot more than 46. Funny, how journalists can be, "now and then".
QUOTE:
Two RAF crew members were being assessed in hospital yesterday after a Tornado jet fighter crashed during takeoff at Kandahar airfield, east of Helmand.
END QUOTE
Don't fret or worry yourself; these crashes aren't unusual.
"NATO: British fighter jet crashes at Afghan base",
by JASON STRAZIUSO, AP, July 20, 2009
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=56188
QUOTE:
KABUL — A British fighter jet crashed inside NATO's largest base in southern Afghanistan on Monday in the second major crash there in two days. ...
The Royal Air Force GR4 Tornado crashed inside Kandahar Airfield during takeoff at 7:20 a.m., said Capt. Ruben Hoornveld, a spokesman for the NATO-led force. ...
The Tornado is the fourth aircraft to go down in Afghanistan in three days and the sixth this month. Military officials say there doesn't appear to be a common reason for the spate of crashes beyond coincidence.
There was no indication that insurgent activity caused the latest crash, Hoornveld said, but officials could not immediately say why the plane went down. The jet caught fire and emergency personnel responded.
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