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Military Dominance in Mideast Proven a Costly Myth
WASHINGTON - The arguments for
maintaining a major U.S. combat force in Iraq at least through 2011,
escalating U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan and assuming a
confrontational stance toward Iran appear to assume that the United
States remains the dominant military power in the region.
But
the pattern of recent history and current developments in the region
has not supported that assumption. Not only has the United States been
unable to prevail over stubborn nationalist and sectarian forces
determined to resist U.S. influence, but it has not been able to use
its military supremacy to wage successful coercive diplomacy against
Iran.
Furthermore, even the ability of the United States to maintain troops
in Iraq and Afghanistan turns out to be dependent on regimes which are
by no means aligned with the United States.
Six years ago, after the United States had removed the Taliban
regime in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein in Iraq, the U.S. appeared to
be militarily dominant in the region. Apart from its nearly 200,000
troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States had surrounded Iran
with a network of airbases scattered across the region from the Persian
Gulf sheikdoms through Iraq and Afghanistan to the Central Asian
republics of Kyrgystan and Uzbekistan, along with aircraft on U.S.
ships in the Persian Gulf.
Since 2003, however, events in the region have dealt a series of blows
to the assumption that the U.S. military presence in general and ground
forces in particular confer real power in the region. The first blow
was the U.S. failure to subdue the Sunni insurgency in Iraq. By
mid-2005, U.S. commanders in Iraq were admitting publicly that the U.S.
military occupation was generating more resistance than it was
eliminating.
The next blow was the Sunni-Shi’a civil war in Baghdad in 2006, which
U.S. troops were unable to prevent or stop, even after the Bush "surge"
of additional troops. The "cleansing" of Sunni neighbourhoods in
Baghdad by Shi’a militias with the tacit support of the government
ended only after a large swath of Sunni neighbourhoods in the capital
had been taken over. That fact contradicts the later boast by Gen. Ray
Odierno, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, that "coalition forces" had
"broken the cycle of sectarian violence in Iraq".
The decision by Sunni insurgents to cooperate with the U.S. military in
2006 and 2007 was not the result of U.S. military prowess but of their
defeat at the hands of Shi’a militias and the realisation that the
Sunnis could not oppose three enemies (the U.S., the Shi’a militias and
al Qaeda) simultaneously.
It also enabled the Shi’a government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki,
which had close ties to Iran, to consolidate its power and to achieve a
crucial degree of independence from the United States.
The George W. Bush administration and the U.S. military command
continued to assume that it would be able to keep its Iraqi bases
indefinitely. In mid-2007, Defence Secretary Robert Gates invoked the
Korean model - a decades-long garrisoning of tens of thousands of U.S.
troops - as the plan for Iraq.
But in July 2008, the al-Maliki government began demanding that all
U.S. troops leave the country by the end of 2010. After initially
refusing to believe that the troop withdrawal demand was serious, the
Bush administration was forced eventually to agree to withdraw all U.S.
troops by the end of 2011.
The evolution of Iraqi politics belies the popular narrative
that Gen. David Petraeus miraculously rescued the U.S. war from a bad
strategy and ultimately prevailed over U.S. "enemies", including Iran
In its conflict with Iran over its nuclear programme, the Bush
administration tried to intimidate Tehran by seizing Iranians in Iraq
and wielding indirectly the threat of attack against its nuclear
facilities. But coercive diplomacy did not work, largely because Iran
could credibly threaten to respond to a U.S. or Israeli attack with
unconventional attacks against U.S. bases and troops - and possibly
even warships - in the Persian Gulf region.
Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, where the United States had appeared to be
in control from 2001 to 2005, the Taliban and other insurgent groups
have grown rapidly since then and become the de facto government in
large parts of the Pashtun region of the country. The U.S. military
presence has been unable to slow the rise of the insurgents in those
rural areas.
The most recent blow to the image of U.S. military dominance in the
region has been the revelation that the United States lacks a reliable
access route for supply of its troops in Afghanistan. The U.S. military
has long relied on the route through the Khyber Pass in Pakistan to
transport about 80 percent of all supplies for Afghanistan.
But in 2008, allies of the Taliban began disrupting the U.S. logistics
route through the Khyber Pass so effectively that it could not longer
be counted on to supply U.S. forces. That meant that United States had
to find another access route for supplying its troops in Afghanistan.
David Petraeus, the new CENTCOM commander, traveled to Central Asia to
secure promises of a new route into Afghanistan from Russian ports
overland to Kazakhstan and then through Uzbekistan to northern
Afghanistan.
But this alternative scheme would rely on Russian cooperation, giving a
rival for power in Central and Southwest Asia a veto power over U.S.
military presence in the region. The Kyrgyz president announced during
a trip to Moscow in early February that he was ending the agreement on
U.S. use of the air base at Manas. That was a signal that Russia would
cooperate with the U.S. military only insofar as it was consistent with
Russian dominance in Central Asia.
Relying on Uzbekistan for transit of NATO supplies for Afghanistan was
another highly tenuous feature of the Petraeus plan. The Karimov
regime, notorious for its abuse of human rights, faces an Islamist
insurgency that could well disrupt supply routes through the country.
A much shorter and far more secure route into Afghanistan
would be from the Iranian port of Chabahar through the Western Afghan
city of Heart to the Ring Highway which serves all major Afghan cities.
NATO’s top commander in Afghanistan said on Feb. 3 that NATO would "not
oppose" bilateral deals with Iran for supplying troops through that
country.
Significantly, the Pentagon has made contingency plans for the
use of the Iranian route, according to one well-informed former U.S.
official. That suggests that the Russian-Central Asian route was
regarded as far from certain.
On the other hand, the U.S. military is not likely to regard reliance
on its regional rival for power in the Middle East as a solid basis for
its military presence in Afghanistan.
Obama administration officials are still talking about Middle
East policy as though the U.S. military presence has conferred decisive
influence over developments in the region. However, the events of the
past six years have shown that to be a costly myth. They have
underlined a truth that few in Washington find palatable: geography and
local socio-political dynamics have trumped U.S. military power - and
are very likely continue to do so in the future.

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Show AllThe American political and military establishments are still going around showing everyone their manhood in an exercise now known as "The Bush Flash". The reason everyone is laughing is because the member on display is of microscopic proportions, like Rush Limbaugh's. Limbaugh does not require a jock strap but a peanut shell. Zip it up, you jackasses. No one is impressed anymore.
War is a racket. Nothing else needs to be explained.
From former CIA analysts Bill and Kathy Christison:
http://www.counterpunch.org/christison03052009.html
US Military Aid To Israel
while the USA obviously can NUKE any country to the stone age....what would it SAY about the USA?
it would be SHUNNED by all countries - EVEN IN TRADE...and if the USA EVER did that -- just watch, the desperation of countries would BOIL OVER to the point that THEIR RULERS would be in GREAT FEAR OF IMMINENT deposement by their people through violence and outright revolts , throwing away all patience ....not LEAST of which is to ISOLATE the USA in TRADE and ANY diplomatic relations.
as for "setting sights on IRAN" -- as iranians (who have NEVER invaded ANY country for the past 500 years but in fact suffered the REVERSE) -- have said:
"if the USA dares to do something to us......we have 150,000 AMERICANS as HOSTAGES in IRAQ"...
not to mention in Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere.....
Nonsense. The US wasn't shunned by all countries after it nuked Japan, was it?
All countries have corrupt leaders that can be bribed by the US, so nothing will "boil over", it'll never get to the point of violence and outright revolts. The US will be brought down by its own greed and corruption, no help from outside will be necessary.
People are just too stupid and brainwashed by the mass media to do it anyway, just take a look at what happened in the US itself. They were duped by the lies and rhetoric of a man who sold them a false product of "change" and now his government is following each and every policy of the previous administration. And his ratings are up in the sky!
hoytdouglas--"WAR IS A RACKET"-Famous Marine General Smedley Butler explains it quite well in his book of same title about 70 years ago. Will we ever learn?
the quick answer is : NO....it is not an american trait to learn the most important lessons. america would NOT be america were it to learn. by the time americans "learn" -- it is always too late...to avoid stumbling into a hole bigger than before...
after all, the present case is just a wider, broader repeat of the Depression : robber barons, robber banks, depressing wages, using disasters as excuses for businesses to assault worker rights some more...etc. etc.
it also happened in 1889 or somewhere around there...
it also happened in the civil war
it also happened for the "lousiana purchase"...
i mean -- this IS the USA's M.O. repeating the same mistakes over and over again -- hoping for a different result....as Albert Einstein would say about an IDIOT.
but a more recent remark was by 9/11 commissioner Lee Hamilton :
"WE AMERICANS ....we NEVER learn , do we?"
i mean -- just look at the USA in the middle east and central asia:
you'd think they'd have learned from history already or the USA's OWN vietnam (which began a severe acceleration of the USA definitively turning from a CREDITOR nation -- however manipulative that was -- TO a DEBTOR nation).
you'd think the USA would have learned what happened to the USSR in afghanistan -- thinking it could play games around the tribes who have no concern about "boundaries" created by the interferences of the West...
you'd think that USA would have learned that IT is the INVADER and FOREIGNER - and will ALWAYS be seen as such in central asia -- while trying to HUSTLE in order to have ITS own "PIPELINISTAN"....for stuff it doesn't own....
did americans think they could just go abroad forever and HOODWINK everyone by waving the american flag as a "model" of civilizing?
a fine description by the conservative , ultra "patriotic" american Patrick Buchanan says it well:
"WE AMERICANS have many fine qualities........seeing ourselves as OTHERS see us is NOT one of them".
additionally -- as the article observes that the USA militarily continues to commit itself being really a kind of denial and pretense that it is STILL the world's NECESSARY policeman and dominator as imagined by americans to be DESIRED by the planet - even if it just keeps messing up things more than necessary or than they already are -- this is really in keeping with the pattern of trying to 'save the banks and financial institutions' that have proven to be THE SOURCE of the debacles worldwide....
in ANOTHER companion pretense that bubbles that broke and spread poison can be "fixed" by creating more bubbles and PRETENSE -- such as that the AIG, and BANKS and other financial institutions at the heart of american capitalism's disastrous meltdowns somehow hold "assets" WORTH SELLING , therefore worth "saving" --
even if they are really and always have been selling
POISON.
it is the same as trying to "save or reform" health care in america even if it is NOT worth saving because it is a POISONOOUS BLEND of concoctions that has been pushed for generations as "good for the health"....
it is the same as the USA trying to keep a straight face while lecturing nations about "human rights" and "accountability and truthfulness" and "not being secretive"
while displaying, in plain sight -- the habit of HIDING its own flaws on the SAME things .....
i mean -- if things were such in this world where there were actually MORE nations that were positioned to IGNORE pressures from the USA , especially economically and could actually RISK standing by themselves or amogn their other counterparts without dependence on the structure that was imposed by the USA for decades - stemming from their being weaker --
all these things displayed by the USA would long ago have rendered it -- IRRELEVANT and cast out, to be left to wallow in its own poisons.
but things NOT being that way -- the USA in its continued behavior trying to be the world's "forever full spectrum dominance" empire -- which it can't even sustain ...not to mention that it ISN"T even right to even contemplate it...
the USA is doing a GREAT JOB of making itself less relevant in the future......an entity that gathers speed in being the most despited and shunned nation on earth. ...after beggaring itself in its HOLY quest to be the planet's ruler.
re: US imperialistic war on Afghanistan, US military transport problems:
anti-US, Pakistani/Afghani nationalists have closed the major US supply land routes thru the Khyber pass/Tribal Areas, thru Quetta in Baluchistan, and over the bridge at Termiz from Uzbekistan. Supplies thru Iran via Mashhad to Herat have never happened. Air transports from the Ickistans are less and less allowed by their sovereigns and the Russians.
So, what is left when no one in the region wants the war of the western occupational military? Fly in what one can from a long distance and suffer.
No foreign military has ever controlled Afghanistan for long.
It's a war of aggression. Give it up! Out Now!
Rosy March ...WISER WORDS can't be said than those.
i guess the US "plan" is : "stay long enough to TRANSFORM central asia into well-behaved *members* of the International Family of Nations ......*guided* by the Benevolent America".......
u know....maybe the american leaders believe:
"if we stay there just long enough ............the 40 million afghanis will SEE the wisdom of our benevolent ways and intentions and ALL AGREE that Uncle Sam is really better than Alexander the Great of Macedon, Darius 1 of Persia, the the Roman Children of Romus and Remulus as well as better by far than Genghis Khan and Queen Victoria and of course those big bad Russian Bears....after all we are AMERICANS..and they will surely LOVE MCDONALDS, WAL MART, CHASE ATMs, and we can show them how to Transform their hills and mountains into BEEEEEaaaaauuuutiful SKI RESORTS where they can WORK doing our laundry, floorcleaning, set up pretty dining rooms for our HARDWORKING SHAREHOLDERS on vacation to sample their BACKWARD civilization....and we'll show them that we CHRISTIAN AMERICA have NO intention whatsoever to build churches in the near future until they're READY to accept Jesus as their Personal Lord and Savior........after they see how WISE the AMERICAN WAY is....and realize that we are there for their own good!!!......"
With respect to a route through Iran for supplying U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, another aspect of potential if not certain difficulty in obtaining such an agreement with the Iranian government is that the U.S. and all or many European NATO countries side with Israel in condemning, that is, illegitimately, hypocritically, hegemoniously, ... condemning Iran for its legitimate (perhaps unsafe, environmentally, say, but legally legitimate) nuclear power programme. I doubt the Iranian government would want to have the U.S. and NATO use its country for supplying forces in Afghanistan without the U.S. and Europe ceasing their bs about the nuclear power programme. Iran would surely make this a requirement. And I wonder if the U.S. and Europe would agree to finally shut up about, or back off of or from, condemning Iran's programme.
One bit of an edge the U.S. and NATO may possibly have is that Iran doesn't want the Taliban back in power, apparently being very definitely against the Taliban. But I wonder if that would weigh enough for the Iranian government that it wouldn't demand for the U.S. and Europe to finally accept and to shut up about Iran's nuclear programme. Both are seriously weighted or weighty issues for the Iranian government and without being certain I'll nevertheless guess that Iran would not allow the supply route while the U.S. and Europe continue to illegitimately condemn the nuclear programme. After all, Iran helping against the Taliban is no more strategically of interest or important to Iran than it is for the U.S. elites, and the Iranian leadership certainly is aware of this. And that actually causes me to be more certain about guessing that Iran would make the demand regarding its nuclear programme.
Israeli leadership may whine ... en masse, perhaps, but I wonder if the U.S. and European leaderships would continue to side with Israel or the Israeli leadership on the Iranian nuclear programme matter, which I sort of don't think is an issue for the only issue that's related is the illegitimate, hegemonious, ... conduct of the U.S., Europe and Israel on this topic. It's a topic, but given Iran is within it's legal rights I'm saying the programme's not an or the issue. The issue is the criminality of the U.S., Europe and Israel.
(Environmental safety causes many people to treat nuclear power programmes or perhaps all nuclear programmes as issues, but this isn't relevant in the above respect, that is, when speaking of the conduct of the U.S., Europe and Israel on the Iranian nuclear power programme. And even if it was a nuclear arms programme, then none of these other three parties or groups would have any legitimate grounds for attacking or criticizing Iran, for they'd still be acting criminally, hypocritically, and so on.)
This perhaps means Iran would have two goals of interest in agreeing to allowing the supply route and they are the elimination of the Taliban or their possibility of regaining power in the central government of Afghanistan, as well as getting Iran's nuclear programme finally accepted as legitimate by the U.S., Europe and a perhaps, if not certainly, still whining Israel.
Another thing not mentioned in Gareth Porter's article about the reality of Iran being a strong Middle Eastern rival for or to the U.S. and its ability or lack of ability for achieving dominance in the M.E. is that Iran has gained serious business deals with the Iraqi central government, and perhaps also the northern government of the Kurdish area. I don't know what there's been for articles posted or re-posted at CD on these deals over the past year or less, but there have been some at Uruknet.info and the deals seem to be quite large, significant in scope. I'm not happy about that, for it should be up to Iraqis to decide who they do business with and I don't know of Iran being good for Iraqis who aren't Shi'a and Kurd, although am not sure what the relationship with the Iraqi Kurds is today. But the business deals which seem to be certain, very definite, seem significant in scope and if they are, then the U.S. evidently isn't dominant in that region.
I'm pretty sure to recall that some of these deals were agreed to during the Bush Jr-Cheney administration, and believe to recall having seen an article or two at Uruknet since the start of 2009; but haven't read more than a couple of all of these articles, so ..., so I don't know the details. I just quickly read some of of these articles, enough to get an idea of whether the deals are significant, or not.
And I'm not certain about this other aspect, or maybe I am, but this positioning of Iran in relation to Iraq, including the rival nature for the U.S. elites, also illustrates that Israel might be the sole nuclear armed power in the Middle East, yet still not really dominant. It's extremely genocidal, serial murderer, major destroyer, etcetera, against Palestinians and too much against the Lebanese population, but it evidently or obviously is not really dominant in the Middle East.
There's talk of Israel threatening Iran, still this bs continuing, and if Israel does this, then it evidently will need to fly through the airspace over Iraq and that airspace is still under U.S. control or authority, I believe. If the latter is true, then Iran has previously warned, and clearly so, that if Israel attacks Iran by flying through the airspace over Iraq, then Iran won't strike back only at Israel. It'd also strike at U.S. forces in Iraq, given the U.S. would have very officially authorised Israel attacking by flying through or using airspace controlled by the U.S. The U.S. would not need to explicitly state that this would be official authorisation, for even if the U.S. didn't state it publicly, then it'd still be certainly or definitely inferred (and clearly so) anyway. Thus, the U.S. would be really complicit with Israel in its attacks on Iran and Iran would retaliate against both, the Iranian leadership said more than once.
I doubt very much that the real elites ruling the U.S. government would be permissive about Israel using U.S.-controlled airspace for attacking Iran, and if Israel instead was able to fly over Turkey, say, then it's a member of NATO and Iran might then consider all NATO countries as guilty along with Turkey. So I doubt Israel will be able to attack Iran by using these airspaces.
Iran's in a better position than before, now.
one thing i've often wondered about :
if israel really did instigate an attack on Iran -- let us say it was successful in hitting the targets...and iran somehow survived the assault , enough, to launch missles at israel, say that israel and usa destroy most of iranian missiles, but SOMEHOW a few land in israel and HIT a few of the intended targets - and ONE of those is successfuly hit which happens to be a Nuclear facility or even a missile silo ...and it explodes in a nuclear blast --
israel is how long and wide? how far are these from tel aviv, jerusalem and other main cities of israel...? palestinians and even southern lebanese will be killed ...the middle east explodes some more -- it will be a war of RELIGION - ONE BILLION muslims will set aside their "sunni/shiite" jealousies -- never forgetting who "instigated" -- less about attacking Iran perhaps but more about attacking "ISLAM"...
US troops in iraq -- private contractors or military -- are in the middle of it all -- after it is clearly taken by arabs and the muslim world that Israel crossed Iraqi airspace -- which is controlled by whom?.....
the US has a problem of the 150,000 American Hostages Iran is talking about -- and no longer JUST iran will be talking about -- but about a BILLION other muslims or arabs....
Egypt's , jordan's, and other oil producing arab countries' leaderships will be fearful of even coming out of their palaces seen as the lackeys of US/ISRAEL aggressiveness as seen by the arab/muslim world -- right there in the midst of THEIR world...........
israel is NOT going to survive it even were it to destroy iran's major cities or facilities -- and will never be able to cover the entire iranian landscape with missile after missile of nuclear power or certainly less than nuclear bombs -- (which would of course instantly FULLY reveal israel's OWN ILLEGAL nuclear weapons program for the whole world to see -- adding to another round of ganging up on israel -- due to ITS own shenanigans) -- its "national interests" in many more parts of the globe will be dashed to pieces...as with that of the USA to a lesser degree compared to the USA's over-all size....
and in the aftermath -- there will still be hundreds of millions of arabs and muslims and perhaps at least many millions of VERY VERY angry Iranians --
with how many ISRAELIS LEFT ALIVE in palestine? with their own infrastructure certainly suffering from their initiative of war as a result?....
NO ARAB OIL NATION would DARE risk the ire of its fellow arab neighbors SUPPLYING ISRAEL with OIL for its army.....and the loss of "business" in oil with israel can EASILY be recovered in asia , south american, etc...
Russia will NOT be happy , nor will china for they are part of the SHANGHAI COOPERATIVE along with IRAN as observer status in which they have VESTED INTERESTS and investments...and will see an attack on iran -- ONCE it is applied by israel -- with obvious US complicity or "allowance" or inability to hold the israeli Pit Bull -- as an "attack on their interests"....
and will see it as a continuation , and an ACTIVATION of the US imperial interests in "encircling russia and containing china" and CUTTING THROUGH their "near abroad" borders to plant itself as the "gate master".......
while they may NOT join in the conflict "openly" in military personnel and hardware -- they will MOST LIKELY feed "insurrections" IN IRAN when the USA is FORCED to "regime change and bring order" ...partly because that is what the USA wanted and partly forced by Israel's action...
and it will be feeding frenzy UPON american interests in the middle east and central asian region....
China is only one country away from iran -- and should it feel threatened by a firming up of american presence IN iran could easily mobilize over a MILLION Soldiers -- as part of a "russia/china" tandem to install their presence in a now "devastated iran" - citing "defense from foreign aggression" or "western aggression" and threats "to their oil , energy and sovereign interests".
is the USA going to SURVIVE THAT? of course not.
england, france and germany are NOT going to have th guts to get in there or suffer the consequences in THEIR lands from the radicalization of muslims and arabs and iranians in their midst -- or their civilizations will see their precious landmarks and "orderly life" go to pieces for as far as their lives can see. ....russia which has now gotten on very friendly terms with TURKEY that is unhappy with Europe holding a carrot of "EU membership" - and is beginning a partnership with russia for OIL TRANSPORT through its soil --
basically taking Condoleeza Rice's OWN PET PROJECT of "Turkey/american pipeline" and handing it TO russia --
creates - along with the other central asian nations that will increasingly see the threat of "jewish israel" against themselves as "OIL and ENERGY RICH MUSLIM countries" --
a SEA surrounding the USA presence - with an destroyed or limping Israel.........
who LOSES in the end? the USA along with Israel .
these are scenarios that the USA and ISRAEL -- in the long run -- CAN NOT POSSIBLY WIN.
and THAT is "limited" only to the middle east and central asia - without YET the long-term consequences of attacks, diplomatic, economic , technological, trade, and military in all forms -- on US and ISRAELI interests around the globe.
no -- they may BOMB some arab or muslim nation to smithereens -- the consequences however are what the USA and ISRAEL will not survive...that is clear enough.
they may -- together openly , or separately , or ostensibly un-coordinatedly bomb iran to smithereens as far as her modernity is concerned...but iran will survive - some iranians will remain - and perhaps enough to spread out as a NATIONAL entity that has EVERY justification for ALL the arab and muslim world to see - along with reminders of Iran's SUPPORT for palestinians while being forced to respond to israel's attack that also "collateralized" palestinians in that response - that Iran is an "additional martyr to allah" from US and ISRAELI aggression .....
and that would mean -- CHINA can NOT POSSIBLY SIDE with the USA -- because CHINA FEARS internal MUSLIM UPRISING --
which means -- that if the USA runs to the Chinese for HELP in :ordering the situation in the middle east or central asia
after israel lit the bomb --
china DEMANDS TAIWAN -- and COMPLETE US WITHDRAWAL of military presence around china and in taiwan - PLUS better treatment compared to Japan ....
who WINS in that other consequence in the FAR EAST? CHINA...USA LOSES .....
and that is dependent on ONE SMALL AGGRESSIVE COUNTRY with nuclear bombs that threatens to bomb iran!
the USA CERTAINLY will NOT want a shooting war with china for ANY reason...because china has the capability of withstanding US attacks or SURVIVING them intact as a sovereign nation ...
which can CALL THE DOLLAR down for "maturity in payment" and since the USA WON"T be able to pay -- CHINA DISGORGES the US DOLLAR HOLDINGS -- and the dollar COLLAPSES -- never again to be a world currency.
tne ENTIRE ECONOMY of the USA collapses -- americans will BE on the streets stealing , robbing, violence, police state, masses of people arming and fighting ....
while rendering itself EVEN MORE VULNERABLE to ASSYMETRICAL revenge attacks by iranian and arab and muslim and even russian and chinese entities the whole US POLICE SURVEILLANCE can not POSSIBLY watch -- with attacks , coordinated or uncoordinated between countries that the USA and ISRAEL have bullied -- that could range from interdiction of OIL and ENERGY ships bound for the States and ISRAEL and EUROPE - on the high seas by chinese and russian and arab or other naval forces....like "hit and run" effects all happening at blinding speed and frequency ....
how MANY SOLDIERS and SHIPS can the USA field all over the globe -- taking its eye away from "holding iran or iraq" or "afghanistan and pakistan" --
AND the US "homeland?"
1 million soldiers? 2 million?
how many can China , Russia, Iran , and smaller countries willing to risk it all -- and JEALOUSLY protecting THEIR ENERGY SOURCES from CLEAR USA and ISRAELI LUST to control them -- as evidenced by the refusal to let iran have Nuclear Energy as is LEGALLY the right of Iran? and which they will see -- is another BETRAYAL by the USA and THEY could be "next?"
how many can china AFFORD and is WILLING to sacrifice in an all oout shooting war?
2 million? 4? TEN million ? 50 million?
they have 1 BILLION 300 MILLION PEOPLE.
they can afford - and would be WILLING in a dire scenario -
to sacrifice 300 MILLION if it means to succeed against the USA a mere 300 TIMES or 30 times -- and a few of these will be ENOUGH to render the USA on its KNEES ....
for IT can not afford to sacrifice more than a couple of ITS cities -- much less ALL of its 300 MILLION people
while leavning china with a BILLION MORE ! but also enough to render a few major american cities to DUST! and when americans begin to see a NUCLEAR holocaust in their own homeland -- and begin to do ARITHMETIC and COUNT how MANY they ARE -- 300 -- million -- to China's 300 million PLUS ONE BILLION --
PLUS the possibility of RUSSIA's arsenal and colllusion with China to "finally teach the USA a lesson it will never forget"........
in a matter about numbers -- the USA can NOT possibly win this -- as the Patron of Israel in a shooting war that begins in IRAN .
does america REALLY want that?
in a shooting war that might begin with Israel's attack on IRAN -- which many countries will see as US COMPLICITY for its long knee-jerk support of israel but ALSO as a representation of US imperialism everywhere -- and where it will be seen as a "green signal" from the USA to ESCALATE militarism upon countries --
countries WILL mobilize en masse in every means at their disposal AGAINST US GLOBAL INTERESTS - FAR from the USA's own "homeland" -- where IT is the foreigner and "alien" that will "need to be stamped out" ...
the emergentn , very possible SIMULTANEIETIES of such attacks on US interests - would make the USA invasion and "victory" in iraq look like a mere annoyance where US attention is concerned....
this is a game of fire the USA and ISRAEL shouldn't BEGIN.
i even think that should something like israel attacking iran happen and the convoluted associations of the USA with it come up -- along with the interrelationships and other vested interests of other nations are involved -- along with what will openly be declared as US ESCALATION of wars upon ANY country --
and it comes to real shooting wars because of vested interests....the usa is not going to survive it -- it will be OVER in a matter of weeks -- yes , with countries devastated --
but a new reality emerges -- the Global "LEVIATHAN" USA -- will be effectively not only bankrupt completely, but literally suing for peace to allow its soldiers to come home.......and no one would dare to utter the word "victory" and "mission accomplished".......
except the other countries like china, iran, russia, central asia, far east, south america, africa --
answering the remark of Patrick Buchanan:
"WE SHOULD GET OUT OF THIS BUSINESS OF EMPIRE...and get out of those lands -- before they kick us out"....
with:
"THERE YOU GO -- Mister buchanan -- just as you wanted...we KICKED YOU OUT....now STAY BEHIND YOUR OWN BORDERS and leave the rest of the world ALONE"..........
TURKEY is presently on a BAD footing with israel...their long-touted "friendliness" has soured -- with the Turkish Prime Minister Walking out of a publci forum during a speech by Israeli former minister Shimon Peres (a "dove" in israeli politics at THAT, if one can believe even THAT) - in protest at the forum's decision to allow a few short minutes for Turkey -- but a very lengthy speech for Israel....
and the Turkish minister openly responded to Peres' pooh-poohing the complaint with:
"welll---we all know that you israelis are very good at KILLING".....
and peres had no response.
from that point on -- Turkey -- SUDDENLY now has firmed up a military partnership - with increased trade and oil and gas pipeline deals with...........Russia...effectively closing ALL of the southern caucasus region and central asian region FROM US and NATO meddlings -- and the BLACK SEA and CASPIAN SEAS surrounded by the Southern Caucasus countries of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia -- -- with the exception of Georgia as another "failed" orange revolution experiment of the USA -- and of course Ukraine which is dependent on Russian gas - and of course the cnetral asian ones that have "gone back" to the Russian orbit -- are now effectively "russian lakes".....
and an eminent display of the FAILURE of Condoleeza Rice's Pet Project of US dominance in that region. ...far from USA "homeland".
as patrick buchanan also said:
"WE DIDN'T LIKE IT WHEN THE USSR WAS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD (cuba) .........SO.............WHAT ARE WE DOING IN RUSSIA'S NEIGHBORHOOD?"
the countries over there KNOW -- and they're NOT liking it ONE BIT! in addition to the USA , in its economic implosion and demonstrated double dealings with one country after another that shows it CAN'T be trusted.
Forget the last 6 years, try 60. The events of the past sixty years show us that the U.S. military presence on the globe is a costly myth. And that's what's bringing the Empire down, little by little, look at the deep capitalist precipice this country's in and it's never coming out of. It was caused by greed at home and by greed abroad. Trillions spent committing genocide against innocent civilians in order to occupy their land and steal their resources. Trillions never recovered and now it's coming to a head.
All empires go down, but the beauty of this one is that the US is taking capitalism with it.