NEW YORK - Civil liberties advocates have lost no time in asking a federal court to stop the government from conducting surveillance under the new wiretapping law passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush last week.
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and a coalition of other groups declared that the new law 'gives the Bush administration virtually unchecked power to intercept Americans' international e-mails and telephone calls.'
The ACLU coalition's legal challenge, which was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, seeks a court order declaring that the new law is unconstitutional and ordering its immediate and permanent halt.
ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero charged that the new law 'not only legalises the secret warrantless surveillance programme the president approved in late 2001, it gives the government new spying powers, including the power to conduct dragnet surveillance of Americans' international communications.'
He added, 'Spying on Americans without warrants or judicial approval is an abuse of government power -- and that's exactly what this law allows. The ACLU will not sit by and let this evisceration of the Fourth Amendment go unchallenged.'
The wiretapping issue became the centre of a storm of criticism after the New York Times revealed that, following the Sep. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, President Bush had secretly authorised the National Security Agency (NSA) to eavesdrop on U.S. citizens and others inside the country to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying, according to government officials.
Under a presidential order signed in 2002, the intelligence agency monitored the international telephone calls and international e-mail messages of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people inside the U.S. without warrants in an effort to track possible 'dirty numbers' linked to al Qaeda, the officials said.
Criticism at the time came from a wide variety of civil libertarians, including Bob Barr, a former conservative Republican congressman from Georgia and currently the Libertarian Party candidate for president. He told IPS that in 2000, Gen. Michael Hayden, then head of the NSA and currently director of the Central Intelligence Agency, told a congressional hearing on wiretap targets, 'If that American person is in the United States of America, I must have a court order before I initiate any collection against him or her.'
Barr's advice was, 'If the president doesn't like the law, the solution should be to amend, not violate it.'
The Bush administration then called on Congress to pass amendments to the original Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which was enacted in 1978. The 2008 version emerged as the result of a 'compromise' between Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate. Among its other provisions, the new law granted retroactive immunity to the telephone companies that had assisted the government in the warrantless wiretaps.
The surveillance legal challenge was filed on behalf of a coalition of attorneys and human rights, labour, legal and media organisations whose ability to perform their work -- which relies on confidential communications -- will be greatly compromised by the new law, the ACLU said.
The FISA Amendments Act of 2008 declares that 'Electronic surveillance must be conducted in a constitutional manner that affords the greatest possible protection for individual privacy and free speech rights.' But the ACLU and its coalition claims the new wiretapping law 'fails to provide fundamental safeguards that the Constitution unambiguously requires.'
Plaintiffs in the suit include The Nation magazine and two of its contributing journalists, Naomi Klein and Chris Hedges; Amnesty International USA; Global Rights; Global Fund for Women; Human Rights Watch; PEN American Centre; Service Employees International Union; the Washington Office on Latin America; the International Criminal Defence Attorneys Association; and several individual defence attorneys and journalists.
In its legal challenge, the coalition argues that 'The new spying law violates Americans' rights to free speech and privacy under the First and Fourth Amendments to the Constitution. The new law permits the government to conduct intrusive surveillance without ever telling a court who it intends to spy on, what phone lines and email addresses it intends to monitor, where its surveillance targets are located, why it's conducting the surveillance or whether it suspects any party to the communication of wrongdoing.'
Nation magazine writer Naomi Klein said that 'As a journalist, my job requires communication with people in all parts of the world -- from Iraq to Argentina. If the U.S. government is given unchecked surveillance power to monitor reporters' confidential sources, my ability to do this work will be seriously compromised.'
She added, 'I cannot in good conscience accept that my conversations with people who live outside the U.S. will put them in harm's way as a result of overzealous government spying. Privacy in my communications is not simply an expectation, it's a right.' Human Rights Watch programme director Iain Levine said the new legislation 'will allow mass government interception of electronic communications, so long as the target is overseas, without meaningful judicial oversight or warrant identifying who or what is to be subject to surveillance.'
'In the course of our work reporting on and defending human rights, we regularly need to be in contact with activists and human rights victims all over the world,' he said. 'Knowing that the U.S. government could be monitoring our calls and emails often inhibits our efforts, and causes us to take expensive and delaying measures to keep our communications secure.'
Internet privacy under the new law continues to be a concern to civil libertarians. For example, the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has filed a number of Freedom of Information Act requests with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other U.S. Justice Department offices, seeking the release of documents it says will reveal whether the government has been using the USA Patriot Act to spy on Internet users to collect secret information about their Internet habits without a search warrant.
Kevin Bankston, an EFF attorney, told IPS, 'Although Internet users reasonably expect that their online reading habits are private, the department of Justice will not confirm whether it collects or believes itself authorised to collect URLs using pen-trap devices.'
Pen-traps collect information about the numbers dialed on a telephone but do not record the actual content of phone conversations. Because of this limitation, court orders authorising pen-trap surveillance are easy to get; instead of having to show probable cause, the government need only certify relevance to its investigation. The government is not required to inform people that they are or were the subjects of pen-trap surveillance.
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Show AllObama is refunding my $500 campaign contribution.
As you know, earlier this month he announced that he would be voting to give big Telecom amnesty in the illegal wiretapping that took place after September 11, and July 8, he kept his promise.
This is in direct violation of primary promises and the people of our nations' rights under the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution. His excuse was that he needed to "compromise" across the aisle in order to obtain a policy everyone could live with.
This argument is insufficient. Logic begs to know, where does a congress with 20% approval ratings get off changing the constitution we all agree to live by? Particularly in light of the fact that they are blatantly passing retroactive ammendments for no other purpose than to shield people who willfully broke one of the most widely-known and fundamental laws of the land and founding principles the nation was built upon.
Reason requires a far better pretext than that. In a nation by, of, and for the people, they would statistically need at least 75% approval rating just to make sure they were serving their purpose and doing the people's bidding. Instead they behave like royalty while issuing commands to us on one hand, and yet servants in taking commands -- indeed bribes -- from corporate lobbyists on the other.
I blogged on his page last week that I felt I had been defrauded, which I do. Yesterday I looked on his webpage to see if anyone replied (I posted it before we went out of town last weekend for the 4th) and I noticed it had been removed. Guess they don't give a sh*t about the Second Ammendment either. lol ppsh.
So, after thinking long and hard, I decided you know what, he ain't running a charity. Which is exactly what I told the campaign person who processed my refund last night. This isn't a soup kitchen. He sold me an insurance policy, one that were I to invest in, would help protect and secure what are left of my basic rights in this country. Yesterday's vote breached that contract.
In the end, I'm not sorry we sent him the money. Had he voted differently, we most assuredly would've sent more. I think you're allowed to send up to $2,300. And he did beat Hillary with it -- Amen to that.
So good luck, Obama, in beating Insane McCain; Lord knows that wackadoo is the KING of flip-flops, but I think it's time me and my dog turn in our T-shirts.
1930's Build up to the War in Europe and the Holocaust.
DHS---- is What???
Gestapo - contraction of Geheime Staatspolizei: "Secret State Police") was the official secret police of Nazi Germany
FEMA----is What??????
Under the overall administration of the Schutzstaffel (SS)
administered by the Reichssicherheitshauptamt (RSHA) ("head office of the Reich's security service") and was considered a dual organization of the Sicherheitsdienst (SD)
("security service") and also a suboffice of the Sicherheitspolizei (SIPO) ("security police").
The Gestapo had the authority to investigate treason, espionage and sabotage cases, and cases of criminal attacks on the Nazi Party and Germany. A law passed by the government in 1936 gave the Gestapo carte blanche to operate without judicial oversight. The Gestapo was specifically exempted from responsibility to administrative courts, where citizens normally could sue the state to conform to laws. As early as 1935, however, a Prussian administrative court had ruled that the Gestapo's actions were not subject to judicial review.[1]
A further law passed later in the year gave the Gestapo responsibility for setting up and administering concentration camps.
The power of the Gestapo most open to misuse was called Schutzhaft - "protective custody", a euphemism for the power to imprison people without judicial proceedings. The person imprisoned even had to sign his or her own Schutzhaftbefehl, an order declaring that the person had requested imprisonment (presumably out of fear of personal harm). In addition, thousands of political prisoners throughout Germany – and from 1941, throughout the occupied territories under the Night and Fog Decree – simply disappeared under Gestapo custody.
Our path in destiny for America is headed toward a head on collision with Germanys 1930-1945 history.
Have we forgotten how the Holocaust came to fruition?
6 million Jews taken, killed, disappereared.
BornFreeMen
Have they even caught 1 "bad guy" from this program?
Oh yeah, corporate crusader Spitzer.
It is not surprising that Obama supported this bill and has effectively helped Bush & company escape prosecution. Obama's politics are much further right than his handlers or his supporters care to admit and this will bode terribly for any progressive and humanist based efforts. For instance, Obama has also supported the end to the handgun ban in Washington D.C., he is planning to keep the US embargo against Cuba, he has given full support to Israel after pledging to seriously address Palestenian human and statehood rights (France's conservative Sarkozy has done more to dialogue about this issue!), and sadly Obama wants the government to support faith-based programs. Most of all Obama was dishonest in how he handled the Rev. Wright issue denying many of the truths Rev. Wright pronounced, pretending to have no idea about such political statements and negating the very real distrust many people of color in the USA have for the government and the disenfranchisement they feel from its institutions. Obama is not believable and not trustworthy.
So now we have a president to be who has already, before stepping into office, helped eviscerate the First and Fourth Ammendments. I feel no better about Obama than I do Bush as this point. Oh yes, but he can say "change" and "hope" repeatedly.
I also send regular contributions to the ACLU, no organization I know of does more to protect our rights & liberties.
I have family living in north FL. They get the redneck news and gossip garbage all the time. One of my brothers started a conversation about how the ACLU was going to court to stop the AL judge from putting his monstrous 10 commandments monolith in the public building space. My brother was highly incensed with the ACLU and was railing about them until I said I was a dues paying, card carrying member. He was totally stunned, couldn't believe it. I suggested he explore the ACLU website and see what they do for us. He hasn't spoken about them since.
It would seem that it's vitally important to understand- or at least to make some attempt at doing so-the rationale that the government is offering for enacting these laws.
An understanding of what is motivating the passage of these laws, such as the Patriot Act 1 and 2 and now this FISA bill, seems to me to be crucial for taking any kind of principled stand in opposition to the government's passing of these laws and possibly others that would rapidly eliminate privacy in communications and civil liberties and perhaps as well, even privacy in one's physical location.
If the government is saying, and that is not to say that all govt. representatives are passing these laws or agree with them, that this is necessary for security of person and for national security, then formulating an informed opinion on whether this assertion is true or to what extent it is true or may be true would be desirable.
How else would one make, myself included, a case in front of a congressional committee who's members are telling me that I would be wise to give up some privacy and support their vote to pass these ostensibly "unconstitutional" laws which make each day more safe?
Knowledge is power.. so, If someone knows of some good sources to learn what the proponents of these laws are saying, I'd appreciate it. Additionally, is there somewhere with some in depth discussion on what these laws do allow. thanks.
FAKE DEMOCRACY (as per the 6:27 posting): I hear you and struggle with the exact same thoughts you do... one hope is that there are many millions of us, too many to lock up or have Blackwater "take care of." Then there is the chance the whole system will implode from its fiscal over-reach, and/or the karmic blowback will disable the dark powers that have already taken so much and seem to be getting away with murder.
" suggest that a million people canceling their cell phone contracts would do a lot more to intercede in this matter
corporations understand that"
to bryanD : Of the all posts most of which are whining and sniffling yours makes all the sense in the world .Americans , get out of your comfort zone : cancel your cell-phone contract , turn off the TV including PBS read books instead of newspapers...Financially crushing MSM won't be easy but then again neither was the American Revolution , the American Civil War , victory in Europe...and all had identical endeavours : to preserve and perpetuate individual freedoms.
Turning a TV off , I would say , is safer than crouching in a foxhole . Holy smokes , even progressive Americans are dumb and lazy
I don't have much but I have started sending a check to the ACLU and Amnesty International every month.
They are not big checks but if all my tax money is going to be given to the multinationals, I'm afraid we poor folks are on our own. Any rights we still have in another ten years will be a result of our own efforts.
The government we support has morphed into an a gang of criminals to whom we pay protection money. As long as we pay for the rich to get richer, they won't put us in jail.
Thank you ACLU
I cant even begin to express my gratitude.
I will donate money using your web site.
Stay on these unconstitutional scoundrels till the end.
If you win, I can file for freedom of information against Verizon , find out who tapped my phones for 16 months, sue them in court for violation of my privacy, stalking,slander,defamation of character, torture , and endangering my life, my familys by using illegaly aquired information to stalk us, and major damages.
I am waiting on you victory.
I know who has done this to me, I need proof.
Thanks
BornFreeMen
Ephraim,
What we need is a way to send our would-be taxes direct to those social programs. I'll happily do that. And if everybody else did as well, we might finally realize that old bumper sticker along the lines of schools getting all the money they need and the pentagon having to hold a bake sale...
The whole income tax business is idiotic and needs to end. Al Gore: "We should tax what we burn, not what we earn."
Those traitorous sons of mongrels better pray to high heaven that their spy program doesn't come across jcrumb. I swear, jcrumb's postings will bring the mighty CIA to its knees!
Can't the spelling-challenged and incessantly yelling and screaming jcrumb just go away? Hint: it isn't "sallery" or "salleries," which are not words. It's "salary," jdumb, and "salaries." And as I said once before in response to his hectoring everyone about not paying taxes, pointing the finger of blame at everyone but himself and screaming his self-righteousness from sea to shining sea, the government isn't going to defund the Pentagon budget if millions of people don't pay taxes. They'll give the warmongers all they want and gut every social program they haven't already. Nothing for education, transportation, social security, health care, food programs for the poor--nothing. But the war budget will be met. They'll just keep borrowing from the Chinese if they have no other recourse. Not paying taxes isn't going to stop torture or war, but it will bring domestic spending to a screeching halt.
Since our taxes pay for this wonderfull spying/protection, we ought to get our monies worth. Its time to update our email signitures with the proper list of words mixed with nonesense. New phone call greetings like f**k Shrub might get some attention too.
Also consider emailing yourself the Constitution. You never know, they might just read it.
Thank God for the ACLU.
"You've got nothing to worry about if you're doing nothing wrong."
Yeah. Nothing to worry about except political opponents being privy to everything about me.
Nothing to worry about except the loss of the 4th amendment. Instead of British troops turning my house upside down... now it's suddenly ok if Homeland Suckerity does it?
Nothing to worry about... besides an advance dragnet surveilence system that will soon combine city wide video surveillence, with facial recognition software, with RFID tagged drivers licenses and passports that can be scanned 200 feet away, with GPS like cell phone location triangulation, with the NSA's wetdream of being able to secretly turn on my phones microphone without my knowledge.
Nothing to worry about except for a few bad apples in positions of power who decide one day that they don't like people like around anymore...
Nothing to worry about... except a massive database with a file with my name on it.... and all of the above aggregated information... sitting in some minimum wage security guarded building just waiting to be hacked- like my credit information get's hacked nearly every month as I am constantly reminded of receiving apology letters from these faceless corps that always seem to'lose' a file.
Nothing to worry about except, surveillence without warrant, detention without trial, and a systematized denial of my ability to view the evidence against me and confront my detractors in a public court of law.
Inanna-
Actually you do have a say in how much the government takes out for taxes. The following website is a great place to get some information about how to arrange it:
http://www.nwtrcc.org/
I don't mind paying taxes (afterall I can't deny my use of public schools, roads, etc) but I do mind paying for our bloated military and imperialist endeavors.
I've been looking for a good alternative for which to donate my tax money so that it would go toward true domestic social improvements. Anybody got any ideas?
How about that, jlocke? They can pay for conventions, but not recounts. Or paper ballots. Or free TV time for ALL candidates.
I want to make a little leaflet to put in the windows of cars that have bumperstickers that say "If you enjoy your freedom, thank a vet".
The leaflet would point out that while vets were killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan who posed NO threat to my freedom, the US Congress and executive branch were busily destroying my freedom, my Bill of Rights and my privacy. The military was killing goatherders and wedding goers in Afghanistan, and children in Iraq so I didn't have to fight them here.
The ones actually fighting at home were the CCR and the ACLU, so I thank them.
Another site to check out besides ACLU
http://ccrjustice.org/
Support'em all.
I just love it when I hear a snide remark about the ACLU and I reply "sorry to disagree but I am a card-carrying member and have been for years".
The ACLU is freedom and democracy's only hope and with a Supreme Court that isn't very "supreme" it's a very thin line.
"...but the fact is that the government has been listening and reading everything for 40 years or so and they are not likely to stop - no matter what anyone does or says..."
That may be true, but now they have the court system behind them for doing so. Illegal circumvention of individual protections allowed government to surveil, but not to act within the legal system as the evidence was inadmissible.
If you believe that elimination of privacy allows a greater potential for protection against terrorism *alone*... you have just been awakened from your dreamworld. The potential for abuse is enormous and counter to the vision that this country has always advertised itself to represent.
Ask yourself this... Why didn't Obama fight against this travesty? Was he representing your rights as his paramount interest? If not, why not and what makes you believe that he won't abuse that new power?
Obama's integrity is all tapped out.
BryanD "please don't relate me to the dems"
I promise not to tell them about you.
Greenerthanthou July 23rd, 2008 3:26 pm "It was David Cobb of the Greens and the Libertarians who ponied up the money to pay for the recount. Oh, yeah, they make you pay. Some democracy! And you have to have "standing". And it was a farce."
Greenerthanthou, I'm still learning about the US political system. Yesterday I learned something amazing(to me anyway). After hearing many times how the US system can't for this or that reason incorporate public election financing I find out (on Democracy Now) that the US government pays the Democrats and the Republicans (but nobody else) millions of dollars to hold their conventions. Put that into the pot with the millions they got from AT&T (a major sponsor of the Democratic convention) for getting retroactive immunity.
-Turce- I think you are confusing the original Constitution with Precedent Decisions afterward.
The original line simply says "NO ex post facto Laws will be passed", not "ONLY AMNESTY ex post facto Laws may be passed".
Precedent can be overturned.
I think that the "ex post facto" angle is interesting, and one that could be made clear to those genuine conservatives who are Constitutionalists -which would help "progress" tremendously.
Though I wouldn't try this line in todays corrupt Federal Courts.
I wonder if someone could do something at a State level -say because of agency co-operation or something?
-matti.
Inanna: Move to Costa Rica and live cheap and well.
This just in:
-FEMA Demands Immunity from Trailer-Contamination Suit
-the Federal Emergency Management Agency is seeking immunity from lawsuits accusing it of exposing Hurricane Katrina victims to toxic fumes in government-issued trailers.
Why don't the Democrats just immunize all government/corporate activity since the big bang untill doomsday and be done with it?
jlocke123, it is interesting that the corporate media isn't involved in protecting first amendment rights.
It reminds me of the 2004 election, when Democrats were uninterested in the recount in Ohio. It was David Cobb of the Greens and the Libertarians who ponied up the money to pay for the recount. Oh, yeah, they make you pay. Some democracy! And you have to have "standing". And it was a farce. The Democrats had millions left over, but they didn't pay a cent. I put in $100, which is a lot of money for me.
FISA backgrounder, worth reading:
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/fisa/dojreply.pdf
F Y I
"Dear ACLU Supporter,
Here they go again. On Monday, Bush's Attorney General, Michael Mukasey, called on Congress to take dramatic steps to subvert the Constitution.
Mukasey is demanding that Congress issue a new declaration of war that would make the entire globe -- including the United States itself -- a "battlefield" where the president decides who will be locked up forever.
Instead of ending the Bush system of injustice, he wants Congress to make it permanent."
...and so it goes.
jlocke123
please don't relate me to the dems
not interested
jcrumb.....I've been reading your idea for awhile now, about not paying taxes. I agree with you. I also have been trying to figure a way to get off the grid for several years. I want to build a yurt on a small piece of land and go solar and have my own well and a composting toilet, and grow a lot of my own vegetables, maybe have some fruit trees, etc. All these things cost so much! And, the powers that be don't want a yurt on any piece of community land that could bring in more money with a big fat McMansion on it. I believe in supporting local farmers, buying local, even trading for goods. But, I'd like to know how one could "not" pay income taxes if one has a 9-5 type job? They take it out automatically and we have nothing to say about it. I'm a registered nurse and unless I have my own business, I have no option of not paying taxes.
My son, an artist, often lives in other country's for a year or two. All of my family are antiRepublican. So, the thought of being monitored, censored, labeled "domestic insurgents," spied on, etc. has always been on my mind and scares the hell out of me! Unless everyone like minded joins forces and "quits" the system....there will be no change. All we can hope for then is a great calamity that renders the country and possibly the world, devastated...then we can begin to rebuild. Mother Nature is on her way to making some choices for us though. So, we are on a collision course with destiny. What will we choose?
http://www.aclu.org/
works for me.
I sent them some more of my meager pension while the Great Satan signed this atrocity.
Spend a gallon or two and join now!
bryanD July 23rd, 2008 1:40 pm: "but the fact is that the government has been listening and reading everything for 40 years or so and they are not likely to stop - no matter what anyone does or says"
bryanD You are just the kind of voter the Democrats are looking for;)
"...it gives the government new spying powers, including the power to conduct dragnet surveillance of Americans' international communications.'"
Come on people, the dragnet is on all of us. There could have been proof (and impeachments) if the program was investigated but everyone involved now has immunity it appears. I used to think at least the democrats were on our side. Now, I'm afraid that no one in the gov't is.
Maine-ah asked: "Where do I send a Check?"
Go to the ACLU website where they have many options for donations. Here's where to go: http://tinyurl.com/6ljqke
TAKE THE 5TH!
Did you know that there has been an unclaimed reward for ANYONE that can show how signing an Income tax Return is NOT a DIRECT VIOLATION of your 5th AMENDMENT right to NOT incriminate yourself?
IRS agents have tried..and FAILED..some so dissilusioned at the reality that they have QUIT the IRS...this is a FACT!
My POINT? Someone above asked "where do I send a Check?" well..that is EASY!
FIRST: YOU DO NOT SEND A CHECK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PAY THE SALLERIES OF THOSE WHO DENY YOUR RIGHTS.
SECOND: YOU TAKE THAT MONEY AND YOU SEND IT TO THE ACLU!
See Folks..as I say OVER and OVER...it is ALL about the MONEY!..Money is POWER in this country..and if you PAY them..you are APPROVING of their actions..
Ghandi...the Quakers (60 years and counting..tax resistance..war resistance) and on and on..GOOD people that KNEW that to REALLY change the kind of POWERS that are aligned against you..you MUST be willing to take REAL AND MEANINGFUL ACTION! and in THIS day and age...MONEY is the only form of quick, effective change that will amount to anything.
Another thing to dpo with Tax money..is to POOL IT!..think..if someone who has earned REAL TRUST...Cindy Sheehan..ralph Nader..were to actually help to establish a UNION of TAX RESISTANCE...and a STRIKE on UNION guidelines..Demands..etc...AND created a way to POOL the tax money of every RESISTOR..THINK folks..Can you...CAN YOU IMAGINE THE POWER OF THAT?
Potentially BILLIONS of dollars..that the are DROOLING FOR..AND...the "threat" of continued Tax Resistance..that kind of leverage is the ONLY thing that is going to change the power structure...and it MUST be done..NOW...a person with enormous TRUSTWORTHINESS...and a profesional Web based FINANCIAL RESISTANCE AND LEVERAGE MOVEMENT..
Essentially a TWO pronged program to Leverage REAL change..RESET the Constitution, ALL of our rights returned to their FULL POWER TO PROTECT..ESPECIALLY the rights to PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY, FREE SPEACH, THE RIGHT TO PETITION, FREEDOM FROM ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SIEZURE, AND ADD SOME..IS IT NOT TIME FOR ABORTION TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE FEW/ SO WHERE IS THE EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT THAT STIPULATES A WOMANS RIGHT TO CONTROL HER OWN BODY..((for fucking christ sake..if that is not PROOF of how backwards this nation is..))
ALSO..add an Amendment per the WISE thoughts of Mike Gravel.. A FEDERAL BALLOT MEASURE...DENY THE FEW THE POWER TO DECIDE SOCIAL POLICY...PEOPLE ARE BEING LOCKED UP FOR DECADES FOR SMOKING OR POSESSING A DRIED FLOWER...the Militarization of Social Policy must be stopped..MAKE is a reality that WE the PEOPLE..will VOTE social policy into law...and then..WOW! the money saved on the drug war..even just on marijuana insanity would be..AMAZING! could PAY for Health insurance or Education for ..hell..EVERYONE..we are talking BILLIONS..
So...about that CHECK? Send it to the ACLU..fer now..and get on their Action List and sign the petitions etc..and HOPE that a TRUSTABLE ORGANIZER..with MEDIA HISTORY...decides to do something ACTUALLY REALISTIC...to change the downward slide into Chinese style Corporate Fascism..free to consume..NOTHING ELSE...is that what you want? MUST BE! as you are the ones making it ALL possible..every dollar you send..pays for the sallery of a man who TORTURES a 15 nyear old Boy in Guantanamo...YUP! YOUR MONEY! Way to GO!
YOU pay..I don't..but you do!...STOP PAYING FOR IT...or..ACCEPT IT!..and live in fear...you do already..so..whatever..
An' like that!
i am a Naomi Klein fan
she is smart, good looking and courageous
the shock doctrine should be read by every citizen in the world as a matter of public responsibility
but the fact is that the government has been listening and reading everything for 40 years or so and they are not likely to stop - no matter what anyone does or says
the voting pubic has been without standing in matters of policy for some time now - that is not going to change anytime soon
the intellectuals of the left still pretend or hold to the illusion that there is a place for reason and lawfulness in political life and that is their worst crime
we need to strip away this illusion and go forward knowing what we are, in fact, dealing with
and that is mad, insane corporations who are willing to do anything to make a buck
they will shoot you, shoot me, shoot your dog
they don't care about anyone
so good luck to the suit (deluded though it may be) but i suggest that a million people canceling their cell phone contracts would do a lot more to intercede in this matter
corporations understand that
People are always using Article.I.Section.9.Clause 3, this is making something ILLEGAL after it had previously been legal, criminal laws that make an action illegal aftere someone has already taken it. It guarentees individuals are warned ahead of time that their actions are illegal. There is nothing on the books, just the new fking FISA/retroactive immunity bill. This didn't make Amendment.IV. illegal, just screwed with it enough so we are SCREWED. It doesn't have a thing to do with this subject. Why use Wikipedia, read the Constitution.
To donate aclu.org, never leave home without a pocket sized Constitution, ACLU card and "how to deal with a rogue lawyer".
They're going to do it regardless, they lie and say this new FISA bill provides protection for American citizens inside and out of the US, liars it's right in Title.VII, 'Sec. 702 and 703.
Naomi Klein says: 'As a journalist, my job requires communication with people in all parts of the world — from Iraq to Argentina. If the U.S. government is given unchecked surveillance power to monitor reporters' confidential sources, my ability to do this work will be seriously compromised.'
It is interesting to note the absence of ABC, NBC and CBS from the list of plaintiffs. They are as uninterested in the cause of American journalism as they are in the cases like the Al Jazeera reporter held in the US gulag or the Palestinian journalist beaten up at the Israeli checkpoint or the dozens of media people shot in Iraq.
its interesting that they are not challenging the ex post facto (retroactive) provisions of the law that for give the telecoms for knowingly breaking the law.
Article 1 section 9 of the us constitution states in part:
"No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constituti...
Oh, and as to any real terrorists, let's not forget the box cutters of 9/11. They are not stupid. By now they are probably using the US mail, carrier pigeons, or morse code in some quiet cove.
Americans working abroad on behalf of US businesses will enjoy, as I will, adding a bit of black humor to our family conversations to entertain the wire recorders, hah!
This violation of our Constitutional rights is so appalling, particularly when we know the government can't even get the no-fly lists right. And we've seen that protesters are being watched and equated with terrorists. So if one has a very common last name, and shares radical political views with one's family, for example thinking Bush should be impeached, and signs petitions, is it safe to try to go home to the US for a visit? I don't think I'll try for a while.
And what about insider trading and no-bid government contracts for starters. The US government is in an amazing position to swing deals, reveal bids, and control markets with so much privileged or confidential information at its disposal. And we know their ranking for integrity is below zero.
I've already contributed to the ACLU and recommend we give them all support!!!
where do you send a check? Join the ACLU!
Every time we lose our rights some moron pipes up and says something like "If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear!"
I've had this argument used on me. Here are some replies that have worked for me in the past.
"Since you have nothing to fear why haven't you marched directly to your local Police station and demanded to be finger-printed, mug-shot taken, and asked to be included in the FBI database? Why not start a movement?"
"They do not politely knock on your door and ask permission to come in just after the evening meal. They batter the door down with a ram while simultaneously screaming for entry at 3am. If they don't find anything one night they will be back to look again, over and over. Is that ok since you have nothing to hide?"
"Do you want Barack Obama to know what you say about him to your Mom or Dad? You are giving Democrats the power to listen in on what YOU say. What do you think will happen to you when you repeat that lie I've heard you say about him being muslim? Or when you referred to him as a N----r? You have PLENTY to hide!"
(The last of course, may not be applicable. But the person I used it on turned about 3 shades of lily white and got very quiet. I do enjoy the show when a calcified brain creaks into motion for the first time in years.)
Where do I send a check? Thank you for doing what the Dems. will not do.