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War, Peace and Obama’s Nobel
The hopes and prospects for peace aren't well aligned-not even close. The task is to bring them nearer. Presumably that was the intent of the Nobel Peace Prize committee in choosing President Barack Obama.
The prize "seemed a kind of prayer and encouragement by the Nobel committee for future endeavor and more consensual American leadership," Steven Erlanger and Sheryl Gay Stolberg wrote in The New York Times.
The nature of the Bush-Obama transition bears directly on the likelihood that the prayers and encouragement might lead to progress.
The Nobel committee's concerns were valid. They singled out Obama's rhetoric on reducing nuclear weapons.
Right now Iran's nuclear ambitions dominate the headlines. The warnings are that Iran may be concealing something from the International Atomic Energy Agency and violating U.N. Security Council Resolution 1887, passed last month and hailed as a victory for Obama's efforts to contain Iran.
Meanwhile, a debate continues on whether Obama's recent decision to reconfigure missile-defense systems in Europe is a capitulation to the Russians or a pragmatic step to defend the West from Iranian nuclear attack.
Silence is often more eloquent than loud clamor, so let us attend to what is unspoken.
Amid the furor over Iranian duplicity, the IAEA passed a resolution calling on Israel to join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and open its nuclear facilities to inspection.
The United States and Europe tried to block the IAEA resolution, but it passed anyway. The media virtually ignored the event.
The United States assured Israel that it would support Israel's rejection of the resolution-reaffirming a secret understanding that has allowed Israel to maintain a nuclear arsenal closed to international inspections, according to officials familiar with the arrangements. Again, the media were silent.
Indian officials greeted U.N. Resolution 1887 by announcing that India "can now build nuclear weapons with the same destructive power as those in the arsenals of the world's major nuclear powers," the Financial Times reported.
Both India and Pakistan are expanding their nuclear weapons programs. They have twice come dangerously close to nuclear war, and the problems that almost ignited this catastrophe are very much alive.
Obama greeted Resolution 1887 differently. The day before he was awarded the Nobel Prize for his inspiring commitment to peace, the Pentagon announced it was accelerating delivery of the most lethal non-nuclear weapons in the arsenal: 13-ton bombs for B-2 and B-52 stealth bombers, designed to destroy deeply hidden bunkers shielded by 10,000 pounds of reinforced concrete.
It's no secret the bunker busters could be deployed against Iran.
Planning for these "massive ordnance penetrators" began in the Bush years but languished until Obama called for developing them rapidly when he came into office.
Passed unanimously, Resolution 1887 calls for the end of threats of force and for all countries to join the NPT, as Iran did long ago. NPT non-signers are India, Israel and Pakistan, all of which developed nuclear weapons with U.S. help, in violation of the NPT.
Iran hasn't invaded another country for hundreds of years-unlike the United States, Israel and India (which occupies Kashmir, brutally).
The threat from Iran is minuscule. If Iran had nuclear weapons and delivery systems and prepared to use them, the country would be vaporized.
To believe Iran would use nuclear weapons to attack Israel, or anyone, "amounts to assuming that Iran's leaders are insane" and that they look forward to being reduced to "radioactive dust," strategic analyst Leonard Weiss observes, adding that Israel's missile-carrying submarines are "virtually impervious to preemptive military attack," not to speak of the immense U.S. arsenal.
In naval maneuvers in July, Israel sent its Dolphin class subs, capable of carrying nuclear missiles, through the Suez Canal and into the Red Sea, sometimes accompanied by warships, to a position from which they could attack Iran-as they have a "sovereign right" to do, according to U.S. Vice President Joe Biden.
Not for the first time, what is veiled in silence would receive front-page headlines in societies that valued their freedom and were concerned with the fate of the world.
The Iranian regime is harsh and repressive, and no humane person wants Iran-or anyone else-to have nuclear weapons. But a little honesty would not hurt in addressing these problems.
The Nobel Peace Prize, of course, is not concerned solely with reducing the threat of terminal nuclear war, but rather with war generally, and the preparation for war. In this regard, the selection of Obama raised eyebrows, not least in Iran, surrounded by U.S. occupying armies.
On Iran's borders in Afghanistan and in Pakistan, Obama has escalated Bush's war and is likely to proceed on that course, perhaps sharply.
Obama has made clear that the United States intends to retain a long-term major presence in the region. That much is signaled by the huge city-within-a city called "the Baghdad Embassy," unlike any embassy in the world.
Obama has announced the construction of mega-embassies in Islamabad and Kabul, and huge consulates in Peshawar and elsewhere.
Nonpartisan budget and security monitors report in Government Executive that the "administration's request for $538 billion for the Defense Department in fiscal 2010 and its stated intention to maintain a high level of funding in the coming years put the president on track to spend more on defense, in real dollars, than any other president has in one term of office since World War II. And that's not counting the additional $130 billion the administration is requesting to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan next year, with even more war spending slated for future years."
The Nobel Peace Prize committee might well have made truly worthy choices, prominent among them the remarkable Afghan activist Malalai Joya.
This brave woman survived the Russians, and then the radical Islamists whose brutality was so extreme that the population welcomed the Taliban. Joya has withstood the Taliban and now the return of the warlords under the Karzai government.
Throughout, Joya worked effectively for human rights, particularly for women; she was elected to parliament and then expelled when she continued to denounce warlord atrocities. She now lives underground under heavy protection, but she continues the struggle, in word and deed. By such actions, repeated everywhere as best we can, the prospects for peace edge closer to hopes.
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Show AllThe IAEA and the UN are irrelevant
~ Some people live their whole lives without ever waking up ~
but the UN is an effective 'legitimizing' tool to be used by the Empire when useful, bashed and ignored when not.
The IAEA is not irrelevant. It has been a succession of our Administrations, including Obama's, and the dysfunctional UN who have violated IAEA's charter and thereby neutered this organization.
The fundamental question Drowning Man which you must answer is: how does one check the nuclear capabilities of countries and attempt the prevention of a nuclear war? More Mutally Assured Destruction? I am curious about your ideas. What would you propose?
If we build a hammer to build a shelter, we have to use our fist to guard the hammer from elite evil.
Good well thought out article. No doubt that MSM won't publish this article nor report the facts in this article, as it contradicts the propaganda fed by those in power (which MSM parrots) that Iran is a grave threat to the world.
- a debate continues on whether Obama's recent decision to reconfigure missile-defense systems in Europe is a capitulation to the Russians... -
The US needs Russia's help to maintain supply lines into Afghanistan from the north. The US also tries to detach Russia from Iran.
Nobody's really worried about Iranian missiles, so a shield is unimportant.
The perceived threat is thus: Iran nukes -> terrorists.
- Iran hasn't invaded another country for hundreds of years -
www.historyguy.com/wars_of_iran.htm
This site mentions Persian invasions of Afghanistan in 1816 and 1836.
The incursions by Iran mentioned on the historyguy site you referred to seem to involve border disputes, and they occurred at least 150 years ago. So I suppose Iran would claim that they weren't invading another country, but in any case these incidents hardly form the basis for arguing that either the U.S. or Israel is under the threat of invasion by Iran.
As far as I know, the only journalist who regularly interviews Noam Chomsky is Amy Goodman on Democracy Now!
"The Nobel Peace Prize committee might well have made truly worthy choices, prominent among them the remarkable Afghan activist Malalai Joya." -- Noam Chomsky
I agree with his statement about Malalai Joya. She is an extraordinary individual!
Actually, Chomsky does a number of interviews with various individuals, most of whom are not members of the establishment media. His interviews in audio, video, and print are available along with his articles, talks, debates, book excerpts, et cetera at www.chomsky.info.
Great Article!
Chomsky sure knows how to poke ya with reality.
Mr Chomsky [along with Howard Zinn]is a great source of clarity among intellectuals and scholars.
I hear you, Zinn and Chomsky are the elder statesmen of public intellectuals. (Although they are blacklisted, I mean whitelisted from the MSM).
Chomsky's matter-of-fact, flat delivery style works so well with his use of irony, satire and sarcasm. When you see/hear him live, he never fails to have the crowd laughing up a storm.
"He writes a monthly column for The New York Times News Service/Syndicate"
Really, where do they get published? I couldn't find anything in Google News.
https://www.nytsyn.com/
Thank you, Noam Chomsky, for putting some clarity into this web of peace, Nobel Peace Prize, war, and nuclear armament issues.
O if our self-complacent majority would but
take a moment to reflect on such wisdom.
Fisk never fails me, I consider him to be the one of the very best journalists in the entire English-speaking world. He calls it like he sees it with no sugar-coating.
"The threat from Iran is minuscule. If Iran had nuclear weapons and delivery systems and prepared to use them, the country would be vaporized" These two sentence alone makes a mockery of the entire Iran policy and rhetoric.
Having an election in Afghanistan, as Fisk has noted, is absurd on its face. The country has the lowest life-expectancy in the world, one of the poorest and most violent, no central govt. control, a deeply corrupt "govt." in Kabul, under occupation by foreign powers.
Afghanistan does not fit any formal definitions of Nation-State to begin with and its borders are an arbitrary creation of Sir Mortimer Durand during the previous English-speaking imperial adventures.
Are you confusing Chomsky with Fisk?
Thank you fro pointing that out
Oops! wrong article, I somehow pressed the wrong key and posted the comment on the wrong article. I've been ill (not H1N1) for the last few days and I can't think very well.
"The Nobel Peace Prize committee might well have made truly worthy choices, prominent among them the remarkable Afghan activist Malalai Joya."
I'm not so sure that a committee chartered to carry out the will of MR DYNAMITE has peace in its little heart. For starters, look at the contents of the prize: Funny munny! Hilarious! Does that committee really deserve our respect? Or were we simply told by Time Bomb Magazine to respect it?
I would suggest Malalai Joya offer the Dynamite Committee a REAL peace prize if it would only acknowledge its REAL political significance. I would certainly respect such a prize (sans funny munny of course) coming from her than from them.
Isn't it bizarre how these mammon/power junkies are able to co-opt societies in this way? Mr Dynamite sealed his fate with his invention and will never bandaid the damage with Peezze Prizzez.
The nature of the Bush-Obama transition bears directly on the likelihood that the prayers and encouragement might lead to progress.
Ha! HA!!! LOL!! ROTFL!! ROTFGFB (Rolling On The Floor Gasping For Breath)!!!
"Iran hasn't invaded another country for hundreds of years-unlike the United States, Israel and India (which occupies Kashmir, brutally)."
Pre-Independence, before 1947 , Kashmir was part of India, even Pakistan as a matter of fact. During the same time period not sure Israel was even in existence.
So, for Mr. Chomsky to line up India, as a brutal occupier of Kashmir, along with Israel is bit a stretch. Also, I'm not sure does he consider Kashmir as a sovereign country which India invaded ?
8thAvatar:
I'm sure you mean Kashmir was a part of BRITISH INDIA, right? You take issue with the Chomsky describing India as a "brutal" occupier of Kashmir. My numbers could be a bit off, but aren't there 700,000 Indian troops in Kashmir? And what are the numbers of Kashmiris killed and raped by these gentle Indian troops. The figures 60,000 dead and 8,000 women raped comes to mind. But I guess you'd take issue Chomsky describing this as a brutal occupation.
AMAZING!
"I'm sure you mean Kashmir was a part of BRITISH INDIA, right?"
Correct, so India got rid of Brit. Who has right to draw borders of India ? Brit or western civilized nations ? or People like Mr Chomsky or even someone like yourself ? By the way if you do not know during, Birtish India there were more than 550 Princely Sates in what is now India, all of them joined Indian Union, only one left, Kashmir. That too was about to join but mysteriously person who was in charge of reunification of Kashmir was taken from that duty. It never happened till date.
What would US or any other western country would do if their own part of country try to get away ? what did Lincoln did ?
I don't know about numbers that you got, but would be glad to look at it if you provide credible reference. The number, especially about rape of women - please don't get confused between Indian troop and Taliban trained from border across Pakistan. Also when Western "civilized" nations fight them in Afghnistan and in Pakistan they are against Taliban and terrorist ? when the same infiltrate into India and Indian troop fight them they are "freedom Fighter"?
Please !
So you admit that India invaded Kashmir, and it's not the Taliban who invade and fight or attack in India and Kashmir, which, from what I've read, is majority-Muslim, by a large majority or margin. India oppresses Muslims, Christians, and perhaps other non-Hindus, under the Hindu rule of government; corrupt Hinduism, not true to the sort of Hinduism the founder of the religion was for, I believe, but still today's Hindu rule in India.
As for your argument about what the U.S. would do about a state separating from the union, USA, this doesn't strike me as a valid view. It also seems to be or simply is in HIGH disregard for what Kashmiris want. And since they've been separated now for over 50 years and India can't be supported in expanding its oppressive rule over many more Muslims, I think your argument is more akin to being a red herring.
India supports the U.S. and British, along with illegitimate UNSC, separation of Palestine to make "room" for their planned state of Israel; according to their and rich Zionist Jews who really betrayed the majority of Jews in Eastern Europe in order to get this state of Israel created. India supports the forced British and U.S. separation of Kuwait from Iraq, for OIL. India supports the criminally forced separation of Kosovo, and it criminally refuses to be a co-signer of the NPT and to allow the IAEA full entrance for inspecting all of India's nuclear facilities.
Who the heck cares about whether India should be able to force Kashmir back into being part of India? Let the Kashmiries live their lives and let the rest of us stop trying to impose our western imperialist, ... ways on them.
From what I've read, Pakistan has been in accord with letting Kashmir be separate, as long as it also stays separate from India, and that India remove its massive military forces from there, the strong majority-Muslim country of Kashmir. It apparently is because of India's strong and criminal military presence in Kashmir that Pakistan wanted countering forces there.
Maybe India's mostly interested in the heroin or hashish productivity of Kashmir, and other profitable natural resources India could get by making Kashmir part of India again? Or maybe it's just that the Hindu-ruled leaders of India are psychopaths hungering for expanding their oppressive domination over people who want no part of it?
Whatever the reason is, it's definitely not sane.
8thAvatar: Mike (see his post below) has already given you a very reasoned answer to your question.
The simple fact is that it is the Kashmiris who should decide whether they want to "remain" with India or whether they want to be a part of Pakistan or whether they want to be independent of either of those nations.
But permit me to change the subject a bit. India has developed an extremely close relationship with Isreal--this despite the fact that the father of India's independence, Mohandas Gandhi, clearly stated that Palestine belonged to the Palestinians just as much as England and France belonged to the English and French, respectively. I am sure you're also a aware that India did not recognize nor had diplomatic relations with Israel for a number of years. So, I ask you, is India's close "friendship" with Israel today one of expediency or one based on shared values?
Going back to the issue of Kashmir, I would encourage you to read the courageous Arundhati Roy on India's continued occupation of Kashmir.
Peace!
lol brilliant.
"Obama has made clear that the United States intends to retain a long-term major presence in the region. That much is signaled by the huge city-within-a city called "the Baghdad Embassy," unlike any embassy in the world.
Obama has announced the construction of mega-embassies in Islamabad and Kabul, and huge consulates in Peshawar and elsewhere."
This is probably a dumb question, but supposing one of these countries wanted to come over here and construct mega-embassies? I cannot but put myself in the shoes of the people in this region and bring that scenario over here and think how I would feel? What gives us the right to do this?
It sounds like we'll be aiding the growth of terrorists for a long time to come.
Noam Chomsky's article is excellent; providing an excellent overview that tells its readers plenty and while it obviously is all truth-based.
BARACK H. OBAMA ia a MILITARIST-CORPORATE WHORE!!!!
The DEMOCRATS are MILITARIST-CORPORATE WHORES TOO!!!
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUCKS!!!!!!
DON'T VOTE FOR THESE PARASITES!!!!!
TELL ME ANYTHING GOOD THESE AWFUL DEMS HAVE DONE SINCE TAKING OVER FROM THEIR FASCIST BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON THE RIGHT?
AMERICA IS HEADED FOR FULL-BLOWN FASCISM FOLKS AND THE DEMS ARE ENABLING THIS INEVITABLE REALITY!!!!
I was Amused That at the beginning of the Article, Credit was given to: "In These Times." But at the end, Copyright: "New York Times", and the statement that Chomsky writes a monthly column. (he does?)
I checked the "In These Times" website. They published it web only November 4, 2009
And as usual, Chomsky nailed it. I find whenever I read him, I get very depressed, and think: "Is it really that bad?"
Grant
Chomsky continues the 'good fight' against war and its cause, EMPIRE ---- which Obama ignores and enables.
It's certainly abundantly clear today that when Obama told us, before the election, that Bill Ayers of SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) had absolutely no influence on him, that he was telling the truth ---- because Obama has sure as hell not been doing anything to fight for a 'democratic society' (against economic oppression, racism, imperialist wars, etc. etc.).
Obama never mentioned anything, before we 'gave him' our votes, about the ruling-elite corporate/financial imperialist war-machine, racist tyranny, and working-class economic inequality that SDS fought against in the late 1960's --- and which, in the last 40 years, has gotten worse.
Obama was being truthful when he totally ignored the very existence of this ruling-elite Empire that controls our country by hiding behind the facade of its two-party 'Vichy' sham of democracy, and he was being totally truthful when he said nothing about this Empire that he himself was auditioning to become the next 'front-man' for.
It's just that we were too stupid, before the election, to ask him, "Hey, what about this Empire that is killing our country and the world? Will you represent this deceitful and hidden corporate/financial Empire or will you represent us?"
We never asked him about which side he was on in our battle with Empire --- so he wasn't lying when he said, and now has done, exactly nothing.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Some of us did ask - and got answers. The answers told us that Barack Obama is an empty suit who cares little for principle, ethics, or morals. He has sold his soul to the highest bidder, just like Bush, and that was apparent to anyone who wasn't blinded by his toothy grin and other attributes that supposedly put him above and beyond other candidates. Worthy candidates that actually love America and its people.
It definitely wasn't a matter of the information not being out there. It was a matter who those seeing that wanted to see, and vice versa.
Alex, don't get me wrong. When I said "we" I meant the majority 'we' --- presumably not you or me.
You sound like you parsed Obama, and found him a phony, and I voted, supported, and worked for Nader's election a 4th time --- since he was the only candidate who even mentioned the corporatist Empire, and certainly the only one who publicly pledged to fight EMPIRE.
Best,
Alan.
Great article. Was there an indication that Mr. Obama persuaded Israel to not deploy nuke capable cruise missles on submarines?
Noam,
Thanks for the memories!
That is to say: Thanks again for keeping a few more of them out of the Memory Hole.
You are truly a national treasure--maybe even America's "best idea", to misappropriate a phrase--and I deeply admire your compassion and tenacity as you continue your invaluable work for justice.
I hope I live to see the day when you receive the Nobel Peace Prize for your remarkable efforts on behalf of all humanity.
Thank you, my friend. Thank you for everything.
Noam,
Thanks for the memories!
That is to say: Thanks again for keeping a few more of them out of the Memory Hole.
You are a national treasure--maybe even America's "best idea", to misappropriate a phrase--and I deeply admire your compassion and tenacity as you continue your invaluable work for justice.
I hope to live to see the day when you receive the Nobel Peace Prize for your remarkable efforts on behalf of all humanity.
Thank you, my friend. Thank you for everything.