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The Era of Xtreme Energy: Life After the Age of Oil
The debate rages over whether we have already reached the point of peak world oil output or will not do so until at least the next decade. There can, however, be little doubt of one thing: we are moving from an era in which oil was the world's principal energy source to one in which petroleum alternatives -- especially renewable supplies derived from the sun, wind, and waves -- will provide an ever larger share of our total supply. But buckle your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride under Xtreme conditions.
It would, of course, be ideal if the shift from dwindling oil to its climate-friendly successors were to happen smoothly via a mammoth, well-coordinated, interlaced system of wind, solar, tidal, geothermal, and other renewable energy installations. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to occur. Instead, we will surely first pass through an era characterized by excessive reliance on oil's final, least attractive reserves along with coal, heavily polluting "unconventional" hydrocarbons like Canadian oil sands, and other unappealing fuel choices.
There can be no question that Barack Obama and many members of Congress would like to accelerate a shift from oil dependency to non-polluting alternatives. As the president said in January, "We will commit ourselves to steady, focused, pragmatic pursuit of an America that is free from our [oil] dependence and empowered by a new energy economy that puts millions of our citizens to work." Indeed, the $787 billion economic stimulus package he signed in February provided $11 billion to modernize the nation's electrical grid, $14 billion in tax incentives to businesses to invest in renewable energy, $6 billion to states for energy efficiency initiatives, and billions more directed to research on renewable sources of energy. More of the same can be expected if a sweeping climate bill is passed by Congress. The version of the bill recently passed by the House of Representatives, for example, mandates that 20% of U.S. electrical production be supplied by renewable energy by 2020.
But here's the bad news: even if all these initiatives were to pass, and more like them many times over, it would still take decades for this country to substantially reduce its dependence on oil and other non-renewable, polluting fuels. So great is our demand for energy, and so well-entrenched the existing systems for delivering the fuels we consume, that (barring a staggering surprise) we will remain for years to come in a no-man's-land between the Petroleum Age and an age that will see the great flowering of renewable energy. Think of this interim period as -- to give it a label -- the Era of Xtreme Energy, and in just about every sense imaginable from pricing to climate change, it is bound to be an ugly time.
An Oil Field as Deep as Mt. Everest Is High
Don't be fooled by the fact that this grim new era will surely witness the arrival of many more wind turbines, solar arrays, and hybrid vehicles. Most new buildings will perhaps come equipped with solar panels, and more light-rail systems will be built. Despite all this, however, our civilization is likely to remain remarkably dependent on oil-fueled cars, trucks, ships, and planes for most transportation purposes, as well as on coal for electricity generation. Much of the existing infrastructure for producing and distributing our energy supply will also remain intact, even as many existing sources of oil, coal, and natural gas become exhausted, forcing us to rely on previously untouched, far more undesirable (and often far less accessible) sources of these fuels.
Some indication of the likely fuel mix in this new era can be seen in the most recent projections of the Department of Energy (DoE) on future U.S. energy consumption. According to the department's Annual Energy Outlook for 2009, the United States will consume an estimated 114 quadrillion British thermal units (BTUs) of energy in 2030, of which 37% will be supplied by oil and other petroleum liquids, 23% by coal, 22% by natural gas, 8% by nuclear power, 3% by hydropower, and only 7% by wind, solar, biomass, and other renewable sources.
Clearly, this does not yet suggest a dramatic shift away from oil and other fossil fuels. On the basis of current trends, the DoE also predicts that even two decades from now, in 2030, oil, natural gas, and coal will still make up 82% of America's primary energy supply, only two percentage points less than in 2009. (It is of course conceivable that a dramatic shift in national and international priorities will lead to a greater increase in renewable energy in the next two decades, but at this point that remains a dim hope rather than a sure thing.)
While fossil fuels will remain dominant in 2030, the nature of these fuels, and the ways in which we acquire them, will undergo profound change. Today, most of our oil and natural gas come from "conventional" sources of supply: large underground reservoirs found mainly in relatively accessible sites on land or in shallow coastal areas. These are the reserves that can be easily exploited using familiar technology, most notably modern versions of the towering oil rigs made famous most recently in the 2007 film There Will Be Blood.
Ever
more of these fields will, however, be depleted as global consumption
soars, forcing the energy industry to increasingly rely on deep
offshore oil and gas, Canadian oil sands, oil and gas from a
climate-altered but still hard to reach and exploit Arctic, and gas
extracted from shale rock using costly, environmentally threatening
techniques. In 2030, says the DoE,
such unconventional liquids will provide 13% of world oil supply (up
from a mere 4% in 2007). A similar pattern holds for natural gas,
especially in the United States where the share of energy supplied by
unconventional but nonrenewable sources is expected to rise from 47% to
56% in the same two decades.
Just how important these supplies have become is evident to anyone who follows the oil industry's trade journals or simply regularly checks out the business pages of the Wall Street Journal. Absent from them have been announcements of major discoveries of giant new oil and gas reserves in any parts of the world accessible to familiar drilling techniques and connected to key markets by existing pipelines or trade routes (or located outside active war zones such as Iraq and the Niger Delta region of Nigeria). The announcements are there, but virtually all of them have been of reserves in the Arctic, Siberia, or the very deep waters of the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico.
Recently the press has been abuzz with major discoveries in the Gulf of Mexico and far off Brazil's coast that might give the impression of adding time to the Age of Petroleum. On September 2nd, for example, BP (formerly British Petroleum) announced that it had found a giant oil field in the Gulf of Mexico about 250 miles southeast of Houston. Dubbed Tiber, it is expected to produce hundreds of thousands of barrels per day when production begins some years from now, giving a boost to BP's status as a major offshore producer. "This is big," commented Chris Ruppel, a senior energy analyst at Execution LLC, a London investment bank. "It says we're seeing that improved technology is unlocking resources that were before either undiscovered or too costly to exploit because of economics."
As it happens, though, anyone who jumped to the conclusion that this field could quickly or easily add to the nation's oil supply would be woefully mistaken. As a start, it's located at a depth of 35,000 feet -- greater than the height of Mount Everest, as a reporter from the New York Times noted -- and well below the Gulf's floor. To get to the oil, BP's engineers will have to drill through miles of rock, salt, and compressed sand using costly and sophisticated equipment. To make matters worse, Tiber is located smack in the middle of the area in the Gulf regularly hit by massive storms in hurricane season, so any drills operating there must be designed to withstand hurricane-strength waves and winds, as well as sit idle for weeks at a time when operating personnel are forced to evacuate.
A similar picture prevails in the case of Brazil's Tupi field, the other giant discovery of recent years. Located about 200 miles east of Rio de Janeiro in the deep waters of the Atlantic Ocean, Tupi has regularly been described as the biggest field to be found in 40 years. Thought to contain some five to eight billion barrels of recoverable oil, it will surely push Brazil into the front ranks of major oil producers once the Brazilians have overcome their own series of staggering hurdles: the Tupi field is located below one-and-a-half miles of ocean water and another two-and-a-half miles of rock, sand, and salt and so accessible only to cutting edge, super-sophisticated drilling technologies. It will cost an estimated $70-$120 billion to develop the field and require many years of dedicated effort.
Xtreme Acts of Energy Recovery
Given the potentially soaring costs involved in recovering these last tough-oil reserves, it's no wonder that Canadian oil sands, also called tar sands, are the other big "play" in the oil business these days. Not oil as conventionally understood, the oil sands are a mixture of rock, sand, and bitumen (a very heavy, dense form of petroleum) that must be extracted from the ground using mining, rather than oil-drilling, techniques. They must also be extensively processed before being converted into a usable liquid fuel. Only because the big energy firms have themselves become convinced that we are running out of conventional oil of an easily accessible sort have they been tripping over each other in the race to buy up leases to mine bitumen in the Athabasca region of northern Alberta.
The mining of oil sands and their conversion into useful liquids is a costly and difficult process, and so the urge to do so tells us a great deal about our particular state of energy dependency. Deposits near the surface can be strip-mined, but those deeper underground can only be exploited by pumping in steam to separate the bitumen from the sand and then pumping the bitumen to the surface -- a process that consumes vast amounts of water and energy in the form of natural gas (to heat that water into steam). Much of the water used to produce steam is collected at the site and used over again, but some is returned to the local water supply in northern Alberta, causing environmentalists to worry about the risk of large-scale contamination.
The clearing of enormous tracts of virgin forest to allow strip-mining and the consumption of valuable natural gas to extract the bitumen are other sources of concern. Nevertheless, such is the need of our civilization for petroleum products that Canadian oil sands are expected to generate 4.2 million barrels of fuel per day in 2030 -- three times the amount being produced today -- even as they devastate huge parts of Alberta, consume staggering amounts of natural gas, cause potentially extensive pollution, and sabotage Canada's efforts to curb its greenhouse-gas emissions.
North of Alberta lies another source of Xtreme energy: Arctic oil and gas. Once largely neglected because of the difficulty of simply surviving, no less producing energy, in the region, the Arctic is now the site of a major "oil rush" as global warming makes it easier for energy firms to operate in northern latitudes. Norway's state-owned energy company, StatoilHydro, is now running the world's first natural gas facility above the Arctic Circle, and companies from around the world are making plans to develop oil and gas fields in the Artic territories of Canada, Greenland (administered by Denmark), Russia, and the United States, where offshore drilling in northern Alaskan waters may soon be the order of the day.
It will not, however, be easy to obtain oil and natural gas from the Arctic. Even if global warming raises average temperatures and reduces the extent of the polar ice cap, winter conditions will still make oil production extremely difficult and hazardous. Fierce storms and plunging temperatures will remain common, posing great risk to any humans not hunkered down in secure facilities and making the transport of energy a major undertaking.
Given fears of dwindling oil supplies, none of this has been enough to deter energy-craving companies from plunging into the icy waters. "Despite grueling conditions, interest in oil and gas reserves in the far north is heating up," Brian Baskin reported in the Wall Street Journal. "Virtually every major producer is looking to the Arctic sea floor as the next -- some say last -- great resource play."
What is true of oil generally is also true of natural gas and coal: most easy-to-reach conventional deposits are quickly being depleted. What remains are largely the "unconventional" supplies.
U.S. producers of natural gas, for example, are reporting a significant increase in domestic output, producing a dramatic reduction in prices. According to the DoE, U.S. gas production is projected to increase from about 20 trillion cubic feet in 2009 to 24 trillion in 2030, a real boon for U.S. consumers, who rely to a significant degree on natural gas for home heating and electricity generation. As noted by the Energy Department however, "Unconventional natural gas is the largest contributor to the growth in U.S. natural gas production, as rising prices and improvements in drilling technology provide the economic incentives necessary for exploitation of more costly resources."
Most of the unconventional gas in the United States is currently obtained from tight-sand formations (or sandstone), but a growing percentage is acquired from shale rock through a process known as hydraulic fracturing. In this method, water is forced into the underground shale formations to crack the rock open and release the gas. Huge amounts of water are employed in the process, and environmentalists fear that some of this water, laced with pollutants, will find its ways into the nation's drinking supply. In many areas, moreover, water itself is a scarce resource, and the diversion of crucial supplies to gas extraction may diminish the amounts available for farming, habitat preservation, and human consumption. Nonetheless, production of shale gas is projected to jump from two trillion cubic feet per year in 2009 to four trillion in 2030.
Coal presents a somewhat similar picture. Although many environmentalists object to the burning of coal because it releases far more climate-altering greenhouse gases than other fossil fuels for each BTU produced, the nation's electric-power industry continues to rely on coal because it remains relatively cheap and plentiful. Yet many of the country's most productive sources of anthracite and bituminous coal -- the types with the greatest energy potential -- have been depleted, leaving (as with oil) less productive sources of these types, along with large deposits of less desirable, more heavily polluting sub-bituminous coal, much of it located in Wyoming.
To get at what remains of the more valuable bituminous coal in Appalachia, mining companies increasingly rely on a technique known as mountaintop removal, described by John M. Broder of the New York Times as "blasting off the tops of mountains and dumping the rubble into valleys and streams." Long opposed by environmentalists and residents of rural Kentucky and West Virginia, whose water supplies are endangered by the dumping of excess rock, dirt, and a variety of contaminants, mountaintop removal received a strong endorsement from the Bush administration, which in December 2008 approved a regulation allowing for a vast expansion of the practice. President Obama has vowed to reverse this regulation, but he favors the use of "clean coal" as part of a transitional energy strategy. It remains to be seen how far he will go in reining in the coal industry.
Xtreme Conflict
So let's be blunt: we are not (yet) entering the much-heralded Age of Renewables. That bright day will undoubtedly arrive eventually, but not until we have moved much closer to the middle of this century and potentially staggering amounts of damage has been done to this planet in a fevered search for older forms of energy.
In the meantime, the Era of Xtreme Energy will be characterized by an ever deepening reliance on the least accessible, least desirable sources of oil, coal, and natural gas. This period will surely involve an intense struggle over the environmental consequences of reliance on such unappealing sources of energy. In this way, Big Oil and Big Coal -- the major energy firms -- may grow even larger, while the relatively moderate fuel and energy prices of the present moment will be on the rise, especially given the high cost of extracting oil, gas, and coal from less accessible and more challenging locations.
One other thing is, unfortunately, guaranteed: the Era of Xtreme Energy will also involve intense geopolitical struggle as major energy consumers and producers like the United States, China, the European Union, Russia, India, and Japan vie with one another for control of the remaining supplies. Russia and Norway, for example, are already sparring over their maritime boundary in the Barents Sea, a promising source of natural gas in the far north, while China and Japan have tussled over a similar boundary dispute in the East China Sea, the site of another large gas field. All of the Arctic nations -- Canada, Denmark, Norway, Russia, and the United States -- have laid claim to large, sometimes overlapping, slices of the Arctic Ocean, generating fresh boundary disputes in these energy-rich areas.
None of these disputes has yet resulted in violent conflict, but warships and planes have been deployed on some occasions and the potential exists for future escalation as tensions rise and the perceived value of these assets grows. And while we're at it, don't forget today's energy hotspots like Nigeria, the Middle East, and the Caspian Basin. In the Xtreme era to come, they are no less likely to generate conflicts of every sort over the ever more precious supplies of more easily accessible energy.
For most of us, life in the Era of Xtreme Energy will not be easy. Energy prices will rise, environmental perils will multiply, ever more carbon dioxide will pour into the atmosphere, and the risk of conflict will grow. We possess just two options for shortening this difficult era and mitigating its impact. They are both perfectly obvious -- which, unfortunately, makes them no easier to bring about: drastically speed up the development of renewable sources of energy and greatly reduce our reliance on fossil fuels by reorganizing our lives and our civilization so that we might consume less of them in everything we do.
That may sound easy enough, but tell that to governments around the world. Tell that to Big Energy. Hope for it, work for it, but in the meantime, keep your seatbelts buckled. This roller-coaster ride is about to begin.
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Bring America Back !!!!
****King George's Big Oil base jacked the pump prices way
up to $5 or $6 per gallon, blaming everything from the war crimes to storms in the Gulf !!!!
****Big Oil CEO's sat before the kangaroo Congress, lied thru their teeth about not conspiring to fix pump prices, while every pump in the US is within .9 of a cent of each other ! Abject Liars.
****Windfall profits to the "W" base were in the 100's
of billions of US $$$$, coming out of our pockets at the
pumps ! Not even a whisper from our Congress about forcing Big Oil to return to us our monies !
****Affordable airlines simply went bust not affording the radical fuel costs---none back online. Consumer products, especially Food prices. went sky high, since naturally those producers must pass their rediculous fuel/shipping costs on to we consumers. None of those prices have retreated !!
****Not even a whimper about re:regulating Big Oil so they may never do that to us again !! Their 9/11 Windfalls.
****Big Oil has learned they can do this to us any old time they please==jack up the pump price, lie about expenses, falsify both shortages and overages. AND , they WILL !!
****Before we achieve any modicum of progress into Xtreme
New Energy and replaceable sources---we desperately need to
correct the Past Abuse. So goes oil costs, so goes our Economy !!
The corrupt Oil Criminals need re:regulated by law, and they need to be fined to the Hilt for their goughing, and war time profiteering at our expense !
Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it! As Kucinich screams: WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!
Yeah, what we need is more cheap energy.
Have you been paying any attention to what is going on in the world around you?
The people who made big money off the oil business should have that money taken away by higher taxes not by regulations requiring them to sell oil cheaply. The last thing we need is cheap gasoline ... and we certainly don't need cheap air travel!
Well said.
xtreme energy yields
xtreme economics yielding
xtreme politics yielding
xtreme climate yielding
xtreme terror yielding
xtreme energy
society's inhumanity
cheers
Peak Oil is no laughing matter (see http://lifeaftertheoilcrash.net), but the typo in the title is pretty funny: "Life After the Age of Oi." Oy Vay.
Yea I've been following Peak Oil for several years. There is some indication that we have already hit peak oil, and are bumping along at the top of the bell curve. If I remember correctly the maximum annual oil output peaked in 2005, and the monthly output peak was June of last year. The current recession and resulting decline in energy use, may have saved us from some pretty crippling oil prices.
Things are not going to be pretty as we snowboard down the back side of the peak oil bell curve. Oil gets use for almost EVERYTHING in our society. For transportation, heating, farming, fertilizer, plastics, pharmaceuticals,........................
The only thing that MAY bail our sorry butts out in this country, is that they have recently found staggering huge quantities of natural gas in shale in several locations in the US, and now have the technology to extract it. NPR is running a series of stories on the subject this week.
Being a total skeptic of pretty much everything I see, and all of what I read, we'll have to wait and see how that whole thing pans out.
Again and again M.T. Klare uses the terms "expensive" and "difficult to extract". Allow me to translate; Net energy losers. Add up all the energy it takes to extract a barrel of usable oil from the Canadian Tar Sands (Massive steam shovels and trucks, transportation to processing plants where water, superheated by natural gas, is used to separate the bitumen from sand, the transportation to the point of sale... without even reckoning the environmental costs) and there's NO energy produced. Similar analyses of nuclear energy and remote oil fields.. even possibly photovoltaics... produce the same conclusion. This idiot notion that less energy means a lower standard of living is easily refuted by Europe w/1/2 the per capita energy consumption and a higher standard of living than the USA. Conservation has the best return. No one talks about how factory-farming consumes ridiculous amounts of energy, but puts out a product inferior to organic, family farms (whose lack of competitiveness is due to energy underpricing and tax structure). Google "Polyfarms". We've built in an energy intensive social structure (eg. suburbs) whose elimination would improve people's lives. This article perpetuates myths.
It's either more General Oildineros or the dawn of a sunny day. Where's my #%*&@! 1995 electric car and solar roof panels to charge it and my home?
The need for hydrocarbons either in the form of gas, fluid, or solid by the chemical and pharmaceutical industries is once again ignored. Even if all energy is from renewable your computer will have to be made from hydrocarbons.
Pretty much any chemical that is made from petroleum can be made from plant-based sources -- if you want to bad enough, i.e., if you want to put the energy into doing so.
Perhaps. "Plants-for-plastics" will always threaten to reduce the word's food production no matter what I am told because of the huge profits that can be made from the program. Just consider what "corn-for-alcohol" did to the price of corn in Mexico. However, my original point, which I did not state clearly enough, was that there will be a vicious competition between energy and chemistry for oil and gas in the "transition period, making it extra difficult.
There a theroy advanced by Russian Scientists that the origin of Oil is from deep in the Earths crust wherein compressing and friction form the oil and it then bubbles upwards. (Rhather then an organic source such as plants and animals)
Now if Oil reserves are being found at 35000 feet it would SEEM to me this then it would seem to me this lends more credibility to that arguement.
Oil is a biological compound. Oil being found at such depths can also be explained by the shifting (lowering the ground) of tectonic plates.
Which brings to mind Food. Steak tastes better when cooked over a wood fire, and the taste diminishes when cooked with charcoal, then natural gas then electric grilles (why would anyone ruin a steak with an electric range!). When I think about this in terms of energy- contained in food or fuel, the pattern emerges:
Sunlight to plants to animals to fossil fuels.
As sunlight is converted and concentrated, the energy quotiant grows. But, as with the fuel example, the further away from sunlight, the less "good" it is for you.
We are all children of light.
Ah yes, but as per the Casini probe Titan is awash in pools of Hydrocarbons in the Form of methane etc. Indeed they claim a single lake on Titan has more reserves of liquid hydrocarbons then the entire earths.
Now those could certainly not have come from Animals.
Not all "fossil fuels" are created equally. It quite possible both theories correct.
A bit of a chicken egg argument....Sunlight to Liquid hydrocarbons to plants to animals then back to hydrocarbons. The big circle.
Well said. I don't believe Titan ever had dinosaurs.
I heard about that once, and I think it's mostly just a theory to promote the idea that oil is a "renewable" resource...it's it's formed by pressure on minerals, then it could be produced in a factory, couldn't it? I wouldn't buy into that idea, it sort of leads into further justification that we don't need to get off oil.
Check out Tommy Gold who advocated that hydrocarbons are essentially a primeval remnant. I don't think he was correct, but then I have to take someone else's word that there is evidence of biological origin.
Although I am very skeptical about that theory, I would think that it will be put to the test very soon, as conventional oil supplies start to get very tight.
I would think if oil came from deep within the earths crust that there would be some evidence of it in Volcanos. Anyway even if the Earth is like a giant Cadbury egg with a gooey center full of oil, if it is beyond our technology to get to it, it really doesn't matter.
To add to the skepticism -- if it comes from "deep in the earth's crust", then why are no reserves refilling?
Either they don't or they don't do it fast enough to matter, right?
tomhairless In Econ 101 we learn that when demand exceeds supply (at current price) price will rise enough to reduce demand to match supply.
This leads to the conclusion that Professor Klare
underemphasized - gas will soon reach $25 per gallon on its way to $100. Like many, many others I will be priced out of using my car before
gas is $10 per gallon switching to biking, walking
and public transit (Which must, starting last year, be vastly expanded with no fare boxes)
>>tomhairless In Econ 101 we learn that when demand exceeds supply (at current price) >>price will rise enough to reduce demand to match supply.
Except for labor. Then it's tagged with the incomplete sentence, "Jobs that American's won't do." That, instead of the more descriptive, "Jobs that American's won't do for the prevailing wage."
But, I digress from the thread.
Since when has our government helped with real energy research and development? Not the expensive do-little trained poodle kind of research, but striving for real results?
Numerous real energy-saving cost-improvements, the kind that are understandable by most engineers and a few carpenters, are quite possible in the fields of solar heat, in algae growth for biodiesel, in solar electricity and especially in transit, a field which has been dead to American inventors for a century. The last good transit invention in this country was the cowcatcher on the steam locomotive, or possibly the self-locking railway car connector. Has anyone noticed that the French and Japanese trains are twice as fast as our 19th century trains and tracks? Duh?
Because the government is too busy tasting champagne with AIG to help us, we're going to have to prototype these inventions ourselves and bring them to market. Is there anyone else out there who dislikes climate change enough to re-orient their life to inhibit climate change?
Now let's not forget clothing. Most business and casual wear clothing are made of fabrics derived from crude oil. The most obvious one is clothing made of nylon and/or spandex. I wouldn't mind wearing clothing made of hemp or bamboo. Yes, it's a little rougher but they run well through the seasons. But I must confess. Like most people, I have been hooked to clothing that is incredibly smooth and "wrinkle free". I also am hooked to smooth but tight clothing to keep my long term diet mode alive. Unfortunately, all this smooth and "wrinkle free" clothing requires more oil. The author did not mention green crude as a solution and I am referring to extracting oil from algae that is the chemical equivilant of light sweet crude. Wild algae can be grown anywhere so no more wars or drilling. The only caveat I see is not getting enough to meet the guzzlers' demands but let the guzzlers starve and thin down.
Eh, just about all my clothes are cotton. I buy wrinkle free dress clothes and such, but I have very few and buy them maybe once every couple of years. I should probably learn how to iron instead.
Ok, but not completely out of the loop yet. Unless it's organic cotton, I believe that the conventional type cotton uses more pesticides and is hence oil dependent though probably not as much as nylon.
Unfortunately, I doubt they make organic cotton clothing in my size...ditto with hemp (except shirts), and I have yet to find a place that sells bamboo clothing.
On a good note, at least you're not using up as much oil when it comes to clothing. I'll have to admit to being the guilty one here when it comes to clothing and oil. Worse, I have heard that most women's clothing is made out of petroleum based fabrics while for men's clothing it's 40%. When I said bamboo clothing, I meant to say clothing that has a mix of bamboo in it along with cotton, hemp, etc... One interesting note about organic cotton. Unlike conventional cotton, the soil on which it grows is not degraded. But the tradoff is expense because actual hard work, dedication, and no cheap petroleum based fertilizers. It can be tough to get and washing them needs to be done carefully.
Fuel is used to harvest the raw materials, form the fabrics, power the factory machines, transport the workers, ship the garments across the ocean, power the train that brings it to the semi-truck, runs the electricity in your mall or distributor, powers your car when you go to buy it, and the energy to wash and dry it.
Face it we're up to our ears in oil powered convenience. Sigh.
Clothing = industrial hemp = banned in the US. Nice fabric - banned. Industrial hemp cannot be used for smoking, etc... STILL BANNED!!!
Energy = fast breeding nuclear reactors = BANNED. Reason: NONPROLIFERATION, baloney.
Extreme oil = retarded
It's all about enriching the monopolies.
"Clothing = industrial hemp = banned in the US. Nice fabric - banned. Industrial hemp cannot be used for smoking, etc... STILL BANNED!!!"
Ron Paul is trying to fix that with HR 1866. You'll be surprised as to the number of cosponsors for that bill to legalize Industrial Hemp. Dana Rorbacher is surprisingly one of the cosponsors.
"Energy = fast breeding nuclear reactors = BANNED. Reason: NONPROLIFERATION, baloney."
Are you saying that nuclear energy is the way to go? I don't see it as a remedy or solution to Peak Oil.
"Extreme oil = retarded
It's all about enriching the monopolies."
It's no coincidence that we ban good things and yet fight resource wars for oil. Sigh. :(
"Are you saying that nuclear energy is the way to go? I don't see it as a remedy or solution to Peak Oil."
Yes. It amazes me that people speak doom and gloom and get ready for the final days, while our corrupt government have banned the most promising technologies. When I mention nuclear fast neutron reactors, everyone goes ballistic over the minuscule chance of an accident once in a 100 years with a few chickens irradiated. But they are OK dying by the millions and "culling the herd". What fools... and I'm laughing when I'm writing this... I have nothing to gain or lose here, people's irrationality is just amazing.
I'm not comfortable with nuclear energy but I would like to read more about those fast breeders you talked about. Nuclear waste is a serious issue. I have also been told that nuclear energy takes more fossil fuels and water to operate and maintain. Putting a nuclear power plant in a place where there's a drought causes powerouts. I could be wrong though so I would like to read some more on this so that I can get a better picture of the idea.
And putting them right on the coastline like FPL wants to do in Florida...ugh, the sheer idiocy!
I'd love to give you pointers, and I might if I get some time. What I found in a quck search is quite technical. I thing General Atomic was working with the Russians recently at their plant, you may try searching. The teach is banned in the US and research is unfunded, as I said, and I repeat, the official reason is not safety - it's nonproliferation. People are so scared of the bogeyman named nuclear that they don't even think to compare the odds and the actual damages in both cases - with it vs without it.
I missed to check wikipedia. So here it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_neutron_reactor
" ... the minuscule chance of an accident once in a 100 years with a few chickens irradiated."
So move to Chernobyl. You'd love it there. Us CHICKENS living near TMI would love to see you go as well. I guess those country hicks just don't count in your snob book, eh?
Chernobyl and TMI are just the most publicized nuclear accidents. There have been many "near misses". And all of it has happened in much less than a hundred years. So yes, let's build those "fast neutron reactors". In fact, let's build one right in your back yard.
Chernobyl is a very good case study - please research it thoroughly. The design, how it happened, etc. I recommend that a US Congressional commission investigates it. The Russian investigation was clearly a whitewash. There is a lot to learn from Chernobyl... about how government operates.
You get more radiation fro a walk in cave than the entire amount released by TMI... Scaremongering much... Besides the tech has significantly advanced. "Near misses"... BS
Fast breeders don't exist yet. Uranium is peaking just like oil. All nuclear plants need reliable cooling -- less available as the climate warms (several plants in the southern US were shut down recently because of low river levels). Nuclear is a non-starter even without the proliferation/waste issues.
Two fast neutron power plants are operational - one in Japan, one in Russia. One was closed due to old age in Russia, I think
Everyone seems so sure that things are going to get "ugly". I see other possibilities. Firstly - I believe that DOE does not have too good a track record in terms of seeing into the future. More importantly - fossil fuel production is not going to fall flat overnight. For example - the u.s. has 120 years supply of natural gas - at todays consumption level. So - the most likely scenario I see - is the cost of fossil fuels rises quite dramatically - providing the economic incentives for the speeding up of the production of alternatives - (as is happening in Europe today). There are plenty of options waiting in the wings - Wind, Solar, geothermal, bio fuel, coal to gas, tidal, otec, wave, garbage, waste water to fuel, etc. etc. Surely - as the economics become more favorable - the production curve on these options goes up very fast. This past year was a banner year for wind development - and the future looks brighter. Rather than spend our time so certain that everything is going to be bad - I advocate being a part of the solution - I think the future is very bright for our species.
David.
I would love to agree w/ you, but you apparently don't realize the difference between concentrated and diffuse energy. Amount of energy is not as critical as quality. You can't fly planes without oil derived fuels; most transportation and heavy industry will be extremely difficult to convert to solar or wind. The reason is that oil contains huge amounts of energy in a small, easily transportable form unequaled by anything on the planet. All other forms, descending from gas to coal down to wind/solar/tides, take much more area/volume to contain the same amount of usable energy. For instance, the UK might power itself by wind/solar/tides if it surrounded itself with tidal generators, put wind farms on all available sites and rented the entire country of Algeria for a solar collector. Do you see that happening for even one country, let alone the entire world? I don't.
Agreed. Most people don't understand the amazing energy density of oil. Add to that the ease of which it can be stored, transported, and all the things that can be manufactured out of it and it is a truly amazing natural resource. As it becomes more and more scarce it will be sorely missed.
I do understand the difference between concentrated and diffuse energy - which is why we build wind mills, solar power plants, hydro dams, pv panels, geothermal power - etc. etc. etc. You can fly planes with synthetic fuels such as those derived from algae. But I am not sure we need to fly planes. Let's build a rail infrastructure, and do all of our long distance hauling and human transport by rail. Conservation, and change are definitely a significant part of the future we face. I still see a fascinating and bright future for the human race. I wish the sustainability/enviromental community would stop thinking they have a monopoly on truth and the future, and start talking solutions. To answer your last question - yes I do see countries developing a portfolio of power options that will provide us with a high quality of life - and continue are trajectory of technical progress. It does not have to happen over night. We can bridge - using natural gas - converting the co2 biproduct to fuel made from algae. Can we please talk solutions?
I think we are in deep trouble. Rarely do I see anyone talk about oil companies having to 'scrape the bottom of the barrel' as they are doing now, vastly reducing EROEI- while also acknowledging climate change. Usually we hear that we have many more years of oil, as we move gradually to more renewable sources.
The development and implementation of renewables comes at a great cost in terms of time and energy...time and energy we may not have. I wish Mr. Klare had focused more on the most important and by far the easiest solution (relatively)- resttructure our communities to function on much less energy. We need to work together very quickly to prepare our communities for the impacts of peak oil and reduce our use of fossil fuels dramatically, which at the same time allows us to minimize climate change as much as possible. I suggest readers read up on the Transition Towns movement.
By all means be positive and a part of the response...(there are no "solutions"), but the response needs to be powering down quickly and building resiliency, not hoping that alternatives will allow us to continue our usual lifestyles with minimal changes.
thanks, blueskykate1...I was struggling with not being sarcastic, and you did well...yes, the obvious answer is not doing whatever we can or must to get every last drop of energy out of this dying planet before it croaks, but to stop, altogether, and give this planet a chance to heal...we certainly are in deep trouble, and it will only get worse if we are fixated on continuing to live as we live now...
Kate, I think you are absolutely correct.
A CD poster (thank you, Galen) opened my eyes about peak oil and where things are headed by mentioning this website, among others: http://lifeaftertheoilcrash.net
It's one of the most important things I've ever read.
Folks should also check out the DVD, "A Crude Awakening." http://www.oilcrashmovie.com
EROEI is everything!
"Instead, we will surely first pass through an era characterized by excessive reliance on oil's final, least attractive reserves along with coal, heavily polluting "unconventional" hydrocarbons like Canadian oil sands, and other unappealing fuel choices."
If we pass through that, there will be nothing on the other side. The biosphere as we know it will be dead and it is unlikely that another intellectually intelligent species will arise to wonder at our civilization and exclaim in awe at our stupidity.