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Afghanistan: The Four Questions
President Obama is expected to "announce" his "new" Afghanistan strategy Friday - the traditional Washington day for burying things. But there aren't likely to be many surprises. The Administration has been dribbling details out to the news media, and what has been foreshadowed includes: more troops, more civilians, narrower goals; a renewed concession, perhaps, that there is no military solution.
It is widely recognized that sending more people - whether soldiers or civilians - is very unlikely in itself to change anything fundamental, because the order of magnitude is wrong. The United States has not been, is not, and almost certainly never will be willing and able to commit the resources which would be necessary to transform Afghanistan into a peaceful "democracy" according to the present policy. The most that could be plausibly hoped for is that additional resources would help make a new policy work: a new policy based on a fundamental, political shift in US policy, including accommodation with the bulk of the political forces now backing Afghanistan's various insurgencies.
And therefore, it matters little in the big scheme of things, how many new troops President Obama announces. If there is no real change in policy, new troops won't accomplish anything. If there is a real change in policy, any success will be due much more to the policy change than to the "troop surge" under the cover of which the policy change takes place.
What finally matters are the answers to four questions that are only now beginning to be asked.
1. Will the United States support political negotiations between the Afghan government and leaders of Afghanistan's insurgencies?
It's wonderful that President Obama supports outreach to "moderate Taliban" and "low-level fighters" and insurgents that are "only fighting for money." But that's not going to end the war. A narrow, circumscribed understanding of "reconciliation" was already the Bush policy. Outreach to "moderate Taliban" will only make a significant difference if it turns out to be the "camel's nose under the tent" for a broader process of political engagement that draws in leaders of Afghanistan's insurgencies and the political forces backing them.
"Support" is fundamentally different from "tolerate": talks between Afghan officials and insurgent leaders are already underway; the U.S. can't stop them from taking place and isn't trying to. But the U.S. can ensure that such talks can't accomplish anything meaningful, by refusing to cooperate. Just as any meaningful peace process is going to eventually result in guarantees by insurgent leaders not to engage in, support, or facilitate military operations inside or outside of Afghanistan, so any meaningful peace process is eventually going to result in binding constraints on U.S. military operations and detentions. The Afghan government, at present, has almost no control over U.S. military operations and detentions. So for talks to be meaningful, the U.S. has to cooperate.
Western officials have conceded that it was a mistake to exclude leaders of the former government from the post-2001 political process in Afghanistan. It's long past time to correct this mistake.
2. Is the United States prepared to discuss its long-term intentions in Afghanistan?
As was previously the case in Iraq, it's currently an article of dogma that you're not allowed to say the words "timetable" or "timeline." (Although Reps. Lee, Waters, and Woolsey appear to have recently broken the taboo.) There's no good reason for this situation to continue. In the case of Iraq, "timetable" moved from "unthinkable" to "commonplace" to "provision of signed agreement."
Similarly, there's been almost no discussion of "permanent military bases," in contrast to Iraq, where critics of the war - Iraqi and American - put the Bush Administration on the defensive, early and often, on this key point.
The sooner the idea of a total withdrawal of US military forces from Afghanistan at some point in the future becomes an allowed topic of discussion, the sooner greater space will open for negotiated solutions, since it is widely conceded that the most important motivation for the insurgencies is the presence of foreign troops.
3. Is the United States prepared to relax the political constraints it has previously imposed on Afghan negotiations?
A standard formulation has been: "we support reconciliation with insurgents who are prepared to accept the Afghan Constitution." There is nothing sacred about the Afghan Constitution. If changing the Afghan Constitution would help end the war, then changing the Afghan Constitution should not be ruled out of consideration. If someone says, "I'm not going to stop fighting until the Afghan Constitution says that Western music is against Islam," then, if you wish, you can say, ok, keep fighting. But there's no good reason to rule proposed changes as out of bounds for discussion. Indeed, there are two specific reasons for considering changes to the Afghan Constitution: one, supporters of Afghanistan's insurgencies were excluded from the process that produced it; two, the present Constitution enshrines elements of centralization which are widely considered key obstacles to effective local governance and stability.
4. Is the United States prepared to address the political roots of Pakistan's relationship with the Afghan insurgencies?
U.S. officials are regularly quoted saying that the insurgencies in Afghanistan cannot be effectively addressed without addressing the support these insurgencies draw from Pakistan, including from elements in Pakistan linked to the Pakistani military. But discussions of the role of the Pakistani military are generally limited to exhortations to the Pakistani government and military to "do more" to confront insurgents, without addressing the motivations for the Pakistani government and military to "do less," even though it is conceded that powerful elements in Pakistan see their relationships with insurgent groups as essential elements of national self-defense in their long confrontation with India.
But if you recognize the importance of that, then you should aggressively pursue two things that the U.S. is not doing now, or is doing too little, too timidly and too slowly: one, you would try to help elements of the Pakistani state that are linked to insurgent groups use those relationships to pursue political solutions, so those Pakistani players could cease playing a destructive role without losing their chits; two, you would be aggressively using your influence to resolve Pakistan-India conflicts, so as to reduce the motivation for those elements in Pakistan to maintain those kinds of chits.
But to really pursue that last point would mean that you would have to end the taboo against talking about Kashmir, and that might well annoy India, which generally regards Kashmir as "nobody else's business." It's tempting before reflection to think that "we have enough problems," but as Obama Administration officials have recognized, the problem of Kashmir and Pakistan's relationship to Afghanistan are inextricably linked, and if assertive US leadership towards India-Pakistan peace might save the lives of American soldiers in Afghanistan, wouldn't it be worth pursuing?
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Show AllWell, Barack held his press conference. It sure looks like the grand "review" of Afghanistan policy is nothing but another opportunity missed. How tragic. How stupid and self-defeating.
The newly refined, defined "goal" which justifies escalating the US military presence in the Afghan/Pakistan region is to destroy al Qaeda and the Taliban. Period. In other words, we are fighting a war for the sole purpose of killing the enemy. End of discussion.
While it's perhaps a step in the right direction that we've downgraded the pretext that the US military mission is about spreading democratic values and humanitarian nation building, the bottom line is still a looming disaster. It will be Obama's Vietnam. He'll be a one-termer just like LBJ.
Bill from Saginaw
"It will be Obama's Vietnam. He'll be a one-termer just like LBJ."
There is little to compare between the two. Where's the vocal anti-war movement? Where's the draft? Where's the loss of popular support and the nightly news reports of the carnage?
Good points. This war has become nearly invisible for most Americans. What sacrifice is the American people making for this war? More national debt, conflicts with civil liberties, stuff like that, but nothing tangible that affects the majority of the people directly.
Exactly. Opposition to the Vietnam War wasn't altruistic, as so many people like to believe. In fact Robert Kennedy was notably shocked when he asked a student audience how many of them supported the war in Vietnam and the majority raised their hands; he then asked how many of them supported ending the student draft deferment and only a sprinkling of hands went up. The great anti-war movement only took off when friends, boyfriends and brothers of young people began to leave college and be immediately served with their call-up papers and a one-way ticket to Vietnam.
And, yes, it may be hard for many younger Americans to imagine, but we once had serious news on television. Hours of news of American troops packed to the gills, trekking along jungle trails under fire, helicopters clattering overhead and landing to bring in reinforcements or remove dead and wounded, all under fire. And serious muckraking journalism that made a small village called My Lai a fixture on the news for months.
It was another age, before American Idol, Dancing with the Stars and all the other dreck of cheap "reality" shows. And before journalists became millionnaire stenographer-sycophants to the rich and powerful in D.C.
Rainborowe
Excellent. You've nailed some fundamental realities in very few words.
In Afghanistan, a particularly unfortunate combination of factors makes it a very tough sell for those who are against that occupation. First, there's the supposed link between the Taliban and the perpetrators of the most spectacular terrorist event ever--9/11. Second, so many people who do nothing but watch the evening news to understand the world have seen numerous images of Taliban officials doing terrible things like beating women, etc., and have internalized the notion that it's an honorable thing for us to be there to remove these ogres, provide Afghanis with democracy (!!!????), and help little girls go to school.
An awful lot of people think it's the 'good war', and that includes people who really should know better--so called 'progressives' in some cases.
Whereas the occupation of Vietnam hit home to so many people as you're described, the illusions and distortions about the occupation of Afghanistan by contrast makes a majority of Americans (I suspect) feel good about themselves for their vicarious participation in 'removing an evil'. And it doesn't seem to 'cost' anything to the average Joe.
Madcow, these are good questions, but maybe not so rhetorical as you seem to presume. Clearly there's no viable anti-war movement, no draft or likelihood of one, no MSM honest coverage of the carnage of battle. But there are more "hopeful" signs of "change." Disgusting as I find Obama's "two-faced" saying of one thing and doing another, it may be an opening for a cowardly nation like ours to extricate itself from the hardship of a protracted Afghan involvement through the instrument of a cowardly President. As I never believed Obama's words about "reaching out" to make peace in the region, I don't necessarily believe his latest words that befit a cowboy President on an aircraft carrier wearing a cod-piece. As Obama's popularity in the polls goes down (the "loss of popular support" of which you spoke), as it will as the economic crisis continues and gets overlaid with incidents of military disasters, Obama may ride with the wind as he always does and move to restore his popularity by actually moving to DO SOMETHING (some things from the very useful list of necessities articulated by Robert Naiman) to end the conflict. It may be a thin reed on which to hangs one's hope, but any reed in a flood.
5. Is the United States willing to completely remove all troops from occupying countries with Muslim Holy sites?
6. Is the United States willing to stop its blind support of Israel as Israel kills civilians and strangles Hamas while it continues to build more settlements on occupied Palestinian territory?
7. Will the United States stop supporting dictators in the Middle East?
"5. Is the United States willing to completely remove all troops from occupying countries with Muslim Holy sites?"
Muslim militants don't care too much about the supposed sanctity of these sites either. Hear about the mosque destroyed in Pakistan today? Not to mention all the suicide bombing of holy areas in Iraq.
I'm not so sure who is to blame for the bombing of mosques. Rival muslims, or rogue elements from the west who want to foster chaos to further the whole "war on terror" excuse for the ascendent Military Complex.
Will the USA cease its campaigns of war criminal imperialist aggression?
and as he says:
"WE WILL STOP the TALIBAN AND AL QAEDA IN AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN"...........
er......say that again? ........
this sounds more tragically comical and FARCICAL than EVEN george bush's "surges".
bush can be said to be the clown that was playing cowboy but couldn't know better....
obama SHOULD know better. and THAT is worse.
who were the baby boom cowards who agreed so easily to de-evolve after we grew out of this bullshit when i was a young vital man with great things to give ? will you beasts listen to chico ?
Naimen's best question is his last one: the Pakistani's ISI deep and continuing involvement with the Taliban (they did mid-wife that organization). What is the missing question is what sort of political order can be created that all of Afghanistan's peoples (Pashtuns, Tadjiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, & Kirgiz) can live with. Until and unless that question is effectively dealt with, the Afghanistan questions will never be resolved.
I'm still waiting for the first photo of Obama dressed in some form of military garb. I don't suppose that's too far off. Lyndon Baines George Wanker Bush Johnson went to Vietnam and told the G.I.'s to bring the coonskin home and nail it to the wall, or some such nonsense. How long before Obama starts sounding like George C. Scott in "Patton"? "The Taliban is the enemy! Wade into them! Blow their heads off! Shoot them in the belly! We're gonna go through those raghead bastards like crap through a goose!"
Exactly. Can't you see his jug-ears & chiclet grin under a douche-bag, er, special forces beret? Bet he can't wait to inspect the troops, wearing a bullet-proof vest, wrap around shades, maybe a cheroot clenched in his teeth? What a dork!
"Pakistan's relationship to Afghanistan are inextricably linked, and if assertive US leadership towards India-Pakistan peace might save the lives of American soldiers in Afghanistan, wouldn't it be worth pursuing?"
Ahh .. yes. the ubiquitous 'american lives' argument that has already caused a million deaths in Iraq and thousands in Afghanistan. If we stick our dick into the Kashmir problem we can rest assured it will blow up in our face and not just take even more 'american lives' but a few million South Asian lives as well.
My suggestion ... we fold our penises back into our trousers, zip up and get the fuck out of there !! There is no limit to our hubris it seems.
teddy - "WE WILL STOP the TALIBAN AND AL QAEDA IN AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN".
Why is this surprising? I have posted repeatedly that the USA is at war with these two groups, per Public Law 107-40.
Again, here it is - Congress authorized Bush to wage war against enemies to be named later (those responsible for 9/11).
Bush announced that al-Qaeda was the enemy, and the Taliban would be treated the same way.
There you have it. Now if only someone can explain how to 'prevent future terrorism' by these groups, then we can foresee victory. Otherwise, the war will go on and on and...because Congress is doing nothing to clean up the mess they made.
And again I apologize for repeating what I repeatedly repeat.
It's fun chasing guys through the mountains, flushing them out of their caves, making them run so we can shoot them. That's all it is, just some fun for our boys and the guys who don't want to wear a tie and go to the office. And besides it's great for the economy, in fact it IS the economy. Wouldn't want to slow it down further now so go buy something for christsake, can't defeat our enemies if you don't buy things!
Like most wars the US has instigated and engaged in via proxy corporate-connected dictators, this war is also an invisible war to most Americans. In relation to real reporting during the Vietnam war: the media tried, and tried very hard to disguise and deceive the public. It simply wasn't as sophisticated in that kind of business, and wasn't as completely controlled by corporations as it is today. There is one question that I feel must be answered in full: What role did the US play in generating what is now a war against terror in Afghanistan? Obama and others might say that it's a moot question; better to focus on what is now. But any shrink will tell you: until and unless the roots of a malady are confronted and resolved, the chance of a long term cure is slim. Obama needs to say what everyone there and throughout much of the world knows; namely that WE, the US of A were the ones who began the whole thing. We did it by funneling vast amounts of money and weapons to religious factions, while encouraging them to foment fundamentalist beliefs. Sure, there have always been fundamentalists (we have more than our share here in the US), but it was the US with the guidance of the CIA who baited the trap for Russia to invade Afghanistan in response to a growing instability associated with extreme fundamentalists. WE were the greatest perpetrators of what is now the war on terror. WE created the terror. And we did it for two main reasons. First, to suck the USSR into a Vietnam type quaigmire that would accelerate its decline. And second, to gain yet another foothold in the countries that surround Iran. Look at the map folks!!! WE were the ones who created Saddam. WE were the ones who courted Pakistan, even though we knew they were developing nuclear bombs. WE were the ones who, again and again, propped up dictators throughout most of the ring of countries surrounding Iran. Turkmenstan is now being courted by western companies for its natural gas (and, of course, the control that goes with it). France is currently hot to trot for the energy.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/03/18/business/AS-Turkmenistan-France-Natural-Gas.php
Will Obama address the deep, deep involvement of the US that has brought Afghanistan from a peaceful and beautiful country to the hell hole it now is? Sure! As soon as he addresses our true motives for decimating Iraq, maintaining the best of ties with Saudi Arabia- that land of true 'corporate democracy/ AKA fascism), and labeling Iran as the world's leading exporter of terrorism. This is all such a crock of merde!!! We march into any country, under any pretense no matter how absurd, destroy that country, and yet, should a neighbor of that country try to help it resist, it is labeled a terrorist state. This economic meltdown has a silver lining to it: As falls the value of the dollar, so falls the power the US has to continue it rape of other countries. And as those rapes decline, the raping of Americans who are not among the elite will accelerate. Painful to watch it happen. But countries have karma just s people do.
Excellent.
smipypr
Are the moderate Taliban the ones that kill people, but don't blow themselves up doing it?
Long-term intentions? In a country with so few resources, and no real infrastructure, are we there for the lapis lazuli?
Conciliation with the insurgents? In a country where someone from one valley away is an insurgent?
Pakistan's political roots with the Afghan insurgents? Pakistan's government and military, including the ISI, have been stones in the shoes of Western Diplomats for decades. Ever since the Partition, people in India and Pakistan, even with the best intentions, have often worked at cross-purposes, paving the road to hell. Kashmir? Yikes. Ultimately, the Kashmiri people have the right to be let alone, not used by opposing forces to keep India and Pakistan at odds.
A "moderate" Taliban will shoot you with a bolt action, large caliber rifle instead of an assault rifle with a smaller caliber, high velocity bullet. So, by all means, go negotiate with them. The results will be the same. Wouldn't it be cheaper simply to bribe everybody to stop the killing for a while so we can claim Victory and then get out?
djprof 3:14 excellent post, great article.
I know posters mean well when they state we should leave Afghanistan because the Pushtuns always defeat imperialists; and the afore statement in itself may be true but what to do in Afghanistan needs to based on what one should base any action in life, is it ethical?
As djprof 3:14 explains so concisely and eloquently, It is not even remotely ethical to be in Afghanistan.
Please take this formula to heart, it is so simple and easy, but the lack of ethical questioning, I would propose is the greatest reason we see so much collapse.
Also this has gotten so little attention that I feel as if I dreamed it up; But Obama, whose chief of staff is Rahm Son of Irgun, has extorted the Gazans by demanding they recognize the nation of israel, before Gaza may receive 900 Million in USA reconstruction aid, even though israel refuses to define its borders.
The answer to question #2 is not too difficult...
North Atlantic Treaty Organisation expansionism VS. Shanghai Cooperation Organisation reactionism
Lay a map out, Eurasia to the ME. Where Russia, China & the US will fight for gas & oil and pipelines & shipping routes for the next 50 years. Coincidence! In every square mile lurks Taliban, al-Queda, Evil Militant Islam & Arabs with boxcutters.
Israel/neocons pushed us into the Iraq war. All Republicans.
Now the FPI, the Usual Suspects is campaigning to Escalate the Afghanistan 'war.' Their key-note speaker, Mr. Four-Front War himself, mr bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb bomb Iran John McCain!
Sorry Obama captains a pirate ship, but he may be the difference between nuclear war or not. For dead certain he is the difference between the conflict as it is, and a 3-5 front war-Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Northern Pakistan, Syria? Russia (remember Georgia?).
The GOP & Obama are quite, quite different. Per-iod. Radioactively Different.
I honestly thought the first question would be
"Why is this invasion different from all other invasions?"
Joe
LOL, perfect, with Passover right around the corner.
The question is will the US allow Afghanistan to shutdown the oil pipelines that run through Afghanistan?
Okay why are we there? I don't see the Taliban being our problem, we let the killer off the hook along time ago. Madcow had it right let's bring back the Military Draft and get those Senator's and Congressmen's kids in the front lines (no deferments) and no Texas Air National Guard or any other type of looking good but keeping rich kids out of the line of fire. Maybe after this draft has been instituted our problems here at home will get the attention they deserve and fast. Military Industrial Academic Complex just might meet its match when rich kids instead of poor kids start dieing. Is it really that important now for your military company to make that much money off of poor kids lives now that your brat is in the line of fire?????