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A Bank Bailout That Works
The news that even Alan Greenspan and Senator Chris Dodd suggest that bank nationalization may be necessary shows how desperate the situation has become. It has been obvious for some time that a government takeover of our banking system--perhaps along the lines of what Norway and Sweden did in the '90s--is the only solution. It should be done, and done quickly, before even more bailout money is wasted.
The problem with America's banks is not just one of liquidity. Years of reckless behavior, including bad lending and gambling with derivatives, have left them, in effect, bankrupt. If our government were playing by the rules--which require shutting down banks with inadequate capital--many, if not most, banks would go out of business. But because faulty accounting practices don't force banks to mark down all their assets to current market prices, they may nominally meet capital requirements--at least for a while.No one knows for sure how big the hole is; some estimates put the number at $2 trillion or $3 trillion, or more. So the question is, Who is going to bear the losses? Wall Street would like nothing better than a steady drip of taxpayer money. But the experience in other countries suggests that when financial markets run the show, the costs can be enormous. Countries like Argentina, Chile and Indonesia spent 40 percent or more of their GDP to bail out their banks. For the United States, the worry is that the $700 billion appropriated for the bank bailout may turn out to be just a small down payment.
The cost to the government is especially important, given the legacy of debt from the Bush administration, which saw the national debt soar from $5.7 trillion to more than $10 trillion. Unless care is taken, government spending on the bailout will crowd out other vital government programs, from Social Security to future investments in technology.
There is a basic principle in environmental economics called "the polluter pays": polluters must pay for the cost of cleaning up their pollution. American banks have polluted the global economy with toxic waste; it is a matter of equity and efficiency that they must be forced, now or later, to pay the price of cleaning it up. As long as the banking sector feels that it will be bailed out of disasters--even ones it created--we will continue to have a moral hazard. Only by making sure that the sector pays the costs of its actions will efficiency be restored.
The full costs of those mistakes include not just the $700 billion bailout but the almost $3 trillion shortfall between the economy's potential output and its actual output resulting from the crisis. Since we are not forcing banks to pay these full costs imposed on society, we should hear no complaints from them about paying for the much smaller direct costs of the bailout.
The politicians responsible for the bailout keep saying, "We had no choice. We had a gun pointed at our heads. Without the bailout, things would have been even worse." This may or may not be true, but in any case the argument misses a critical distinction between saving the banks and saving the bankers and shareholders. We could have saved the banks but let the bankers and shareholders go. The more we leave in the pockets of the shareholders and the bankers, the more that has to come out of the taxpayers' pockets.
Principles and Goals
There are a few basic principles that should guide our bank bailout. The plan needs to be transparent, cost the taxpayer as little as possible and focus on getting the banks to start lending again to sectors that create jobs. It goes without saying that any solution should make it less likely, not more likely, that we will have problems in the future.
By these standards, the TARP bailout has so far been a dismal failure. Unbelievably expensive, it has failed to rekindle lending. Former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson gave the banks a big handout; what taxpayers got in return was worth less than two-thirds of what we gave the big banks--and the value of what we got has dropped precipitously since.
Since TARP facilitated the consolidation of banks, the problem of "too big to fail" has become worse, and therefore the excessive risk-taking that it engenders has grown worse. The banks carried on paying out dividends and bonuses and didn't even pretend to resume lending. "Make more loans?" John Hope III, chair of Whitney National Bank in New Orleans, said to a room full of Wall Street analysts in November. The taxpayers put out $350 billion and didn't even get the right to find out what the money was being spent on, let alone have a say in what the banks did with it.
TARP's failure comes as no surprise: incentives matter. Bankers won't restart lending unless they have a reason to do so or are forced. Receiving billions of dollars in bonus pay for racking up record losses is a peculiar "incentive" structure. Bankers have been accused of unbounded greed using hard-earned taxpayer dollars for bonuses and dividends, but economists more calmly observe: they were simply responding rationally to the incentives and constraints they faced.
Even if the banks had not poured out the money in bonuses as we were pouring it in, they might not have restarted lending; they might have just hoarded it. Recapitalization enables them to lend. But there is a difference between the ability to lend and the willingness to lend. With the economy plunging into deep recession, the risks of lending are enormous. TARP did nothing to require or create incentives for new lending, focusing instead on cleaning up past mistakes. We need to be forward-looking, reducing the risk of new lending. Just think of what new lending $700 billion could have financed. Leveraged on a modest ten-to-one basis, it could have supported $7 trillion of new lending--more than enough to meet business's requirements.
Flawed Attempts to Restart Lending
Policy-makers have been flailing around, trying to figure out how to get lending restarted. It is not hard to do--if the government bears all or most of the risk. The Federal Reserve is, in effect, making major loans to America's corporate giants, giving them a big advantage over traditional job creators, America's small- and medium-size enterprises. We have no idea if the Fed is doing a good job of assessing risk and whether interest rates commensurate with the risks are being charged. Given the Fed's recent record, there is no reason for confidence. But there is a consensus that whatever the Fed is doing, it is not enough.
The Obama administration has floated a number of ideas, from buying the bad assets and putting them into a "bad bank," leaving it to the government to dispose of them; to providing insurance to the banks; to assisting private investors (like hedge funds) to buy the bad assets, presumably by lending to investors on favorable terms. Because of the lack of details, the market greeted the Obama administration's announcement of its so-called plan with dismay. As this article goes to press, we can only guess that the administration's plan will be an amalgam of several of these ideas. The devil is in the details, and without the details we can't be sure how things will turn out.
An early idea floated by Paulson was for the government to buy the bad assets from the banks. Naturally, Wall Street was delighted with this idea. Who wouldn't want to offload their junk to the government at inflated prices? The banks could get rid of some of these bad assets now, but not at prices they would like. Then there are other assets that the private sector wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole. Some of them are liabilities that can explode, eating up government funds like Pac-Man. On September 15 AIG said it was short $20 billion. The next day, its losses had grown to some $85 billion. A little later, when no one was looking, there was a further dole, bringing the total to $150 billion. Then on March 1, the government agreed to another $30 billion in taxpayer money for AIG--the fourth intervention in less than six months.
Paulson's original proposal was thoroughly discredited, as the difficulties of pricing and buying thousands of assets became apparent. More recently a variant of this proposal, which involves government buying garbage in bulk, was broached. But the major difficulty with determining prices of toxic assets, whether singly or in bulk, remains: pay too much and the government will suffer huge losses; pay too little and the hole in the banks' balance sheets will still seem enormous, requiring another bailout to recapitalize the banks.
Most variants of the "cash for trash" proposal are based on putting the bad assets into a bad bank (advocates of the plan prefer the gentler term "aggregator bank"). But the banks holding only good assets would likely be short of cash, even after taxpayers had vastly overpaid for the trash. The hope is that the banks would then find private funds to further the recapitalization, though one suspects that the sovereign wealth funds, to whom many turned a little while ago, would be less interested, having been so badly burned before.
I believe that the bad bank, without nationalization, is a bad idea. We should reject any plan that involves "cash for trash." It is another example of the voodoo economics that has marked the financial sector--the kind of alchemy that allowed the banks to slice and dice F-rated subprime mortgages into supposedly A-rated securities. Somehow, it is believed that moving the bad assets around into an aggregator bank will create value. But I suspect that Wall Street is enthusiastic about the plan not because bankers believe that government has a comparative advantage in garbage disposal but because they hope for a nontransparent bonanza from the Treasury in the form of high prices for their junk.
If the government takes over banks that don't meet the minimum capital requirements, placing them in federal conservatorship, then these pricing problems are no longer important. Under this scenario, pricing is just an accounting entry between two pockets of the government. Whether the government finds it useful to gather all the bad assets into a bad bank is a matter of management: Norway chose not to; Sweden chose to. But Sweden wasn't foolish enough to try to buy bad assets from private banks, as many in America are advocating. It was only under government ownership of the entire bank that the bad bank was created. Norway's experience was perhaps somewhat better, but the circumstances were different. Given the complexity and scale of the mess Wall Street has gotten us into, I suspect we will want to gather the problems together, net out the derivative positions (something that will be much easier to do under conservatorship and a significant achievement in its own right, with major benefits in risk reduction) and eventually restructure and dispose of the assets.
More recently, another idea has been put forward: the government would insure bank losses. By removing the risk of loss, the value of these toxic assets automatically increases, improving the banks' balance sheets. Bankers love this idea. The government can give them a big insurance policy at a small premium. Politicians love this idea too: there is at least a chance they will be out of Washington before the bills come due.
But that's precisely the problem with this approach: we won't know for years what it would do to the government's balance sheet. Six months ago, what the banks told us about their losses going forward was totally off the mark. AIG had to revise its losses by tens of billions of dollars within days. Real estate prices might fall only another 5 percent, or they could fall another 25 percent. With the insurance proposal, neither the government nor the banks have to admit the size of the hole in the banks' balance sheets. It's another example of those nontransparent transactions that got Wall Street into trouble.
Even worse, the insurance proposal exacerbates incentive distortions--it moves us from a zero-sum world into a negative-sum world, where increased taxpayer losses are greater than Wall Street's gains. The insurance proposal may even inhibit banks from restructuring mortgages, worsening the problem that gave rise to the crisis in the first place. If they restructure the mortgage, they have to book a loss. If they keep the mortgage and things get worse (the likely scenario), the taxpayer picks up most of the downside risk; but if things get better and prices improve, the banks keep the gains.
Still worse are proposals to try to enlist the private sector to buy the trash. Right now, the prices the private sector is willing to pay are so low that the banks aren't interested--it would make apparent the size of the hole in banks' balance sheets. But if the government insures private-sector investors--and even makes loans at favorable terms--they'll be willing to pay a higher price. With enough insurance and favorable enough loan terms, presto! We can make our banks solvent.
But there is a sleight-of-hand here: go back to the zero-sum principle. The private sector is not going to provide money for nothing. It expects a return for providing capital and bearing risk. But its cost of capital is far higher than that of government. The losses are real, and the private sector won't bear them without full compensation. This means that the amount the government is likely to have to pay in the end is all the greater.
This proposal, like so many others emanating from the banking community, is based partially on the hope that if banks make things sufficiently complex and nontransparent, no one will notice the gift to the banking sector until it is too late. It appears as if they are at last getting the high market prices that they hoped they would get all along. But it would be a misnomer to call these market prices, since the government has taken away the downside risk. This proposal has, of course, the further advantage of drumming up support from the hedge funders, who so far have not received any of the TARP bonanza.
There is an underlying problem facing all these proposals: the hole in the banks' balance sheets is bigger than the $700 billion Congress has approved--and much of what has been spent so far has been wasted. So the financial wizards are turning to tried and true gimmicks--the same ones that got us into the mess. One strategy is to hide the costs in nontransparent accounting (easier under the insurance proposal). The other combines this trickery with the magic of leveraging and pretends that leveraging carries no risk. The government sets up a "special investment vehicle" using, say, $100 billion of TARP as the "equity." It then borrows another $900 billion from the Fed--which in rapid succession has been tripling and quadrupling its balance sheet. Of course, in doing so the Fed is risking taxpayers' money--but without having to ask permission of Congress. At best, this is a deliberate circumvention of democratic processes.
Is There an Alternative?
Firms often get into trouble--accumulating more debt than they can repay. There is a time-honored way of resolving the problem, called "financial reorganization," or bankruptcy. Bankruptcy scares many people, but it shouldn't. All that happens is that the financial claims on the firm get restructured. When the firm is in very bad trouble, the shareholders get wiped out, and the bondholders become the new shareholders. When things are less serious, some of the debt is converted into equity. In any case, without the burden of monthly debt payments, the firm can return to profitability. America is lucky in having a particularly effective way of giving firms a fresh start--Chapter 11 of our bankruptcy code, which has been used repeatedly, for example, by the airlines. Airplanes keep flying; jobs and assets are preserved. Under new management, and without the burden of debt, the airline can go on making a contribution to our society.
Banks differ in only one respect. The failure of a bank results in particular hardship to depositors and can lead to broader problems in the economy. These are among the reasons that the government has provided deposit insurance. But this means that when banks fail, the government comes in to pick up the pieces--and this is different from when the local pizza parlor fails. Worse still, long experience has taught us that when banks are at risk of failure, their managers engage in behaviors that risk losing even more taxpayer money. They may, for instance, undertake big bets: if they win, they keep the proceeds; if they lose, so what?--they would have died anyway. That's why we have laws that say when a bank's capital is low, it should be shut down. We don't wait for the till to be empty. Because the government is on the hook for so much money, it has to take an active role in managing the restructuring; even in the case of airline bankruptcy, courts typically appoint someone to oversee the restructuring to make sure that the claimants' interests are served.
Usually, the process is done smoothly. The government finds a healthy bank to take over the failed bank. To get the healthy bank to do this, it often has to "fill in the hole," making up for the difference between the value of what the bank owes depositors and the value of the bank's assets. It's no different from an ordinary takeover or merger, except the government facilitates the process. Typically, in the process, shareholders get wiped out, and often the government and/or private investors may put in additional money.
Occasionally, the government can't find a healthy bank to take over the failed bank. Then it has to take over the failed bank itself. Usually, it restructures the bank, shutting down many of the branches and lending departments with particularly bad track records. Then it sells the bank. We can call this "temporary nationalization" if we want. But whatever we call it, it's no big deal. Not surprisingly, the banks are trying to scare us into believing that it would be the end of the world as we know it. Of course, it can be done badly (Lehman Brothers, for example). But there are far more examples of it being done well.
The current situation is only slightly different. There are few healthy banks to take over the very many unhealthy banks, and the banks are in such a mess--and the economy is in such a downturn--that we don't really know how much money would be needed. We don't know if claims by depositors are greater than the value of assets, and if so, by how much. The banks may claim, If we hold the assets long enough, and if the real estate market recovers, and if our recession isn't too deep or long, then we can meet all our obligations. We are "solvent." We just can't get the cash we need.
Those are big ifs. That's why governments typically make judgments based on market values. Right now, the suspicion is that the banks don't meet their capital requirements with current market values, let alone the market values in the future, as real estate prices continue to fall and the downturn gets worse. (If banks don't have enough capital, we would give them short notice: either come up with additional capital, or you can't continue to operate as you are. We either find someone to take you over, or we run you, restructure and sell.)
The banks obviously don't want the government to play by the rules. They want to delay the day of reckoning. They want what is called forbearance. They say, Allow us a little slack now, because we are fundamentally sound. Of course they would say that. Of course banks claim that market prices underestimate true values. We learned the hard way in the S&L crisis, however, that delay is very costly. We are on track to learn that lesson again.
The Obama administration seems to be proposing a way out of this muddle: we will "stress test." We will see how well you fare. If you pass the test, we will help you get out of your temporary difficulties. Stress testing involves using mathematical models to see what happens under various scenarios. The banks were supposed to have been stress testing themselves on an on-going basis. Their models said everything was fine and dandy.
We know those models failed. What we don't know is whether the models the administration will use will be any better. Will they use the old, failed models? We have been told that it will take time to do the stress test, and while we wait, will we pour more money into failing institutions, with good money chasing bad, ever widening our national debt. We know, too, that the worst-case scenarios that will be used in the stress test are nowhere near the worst-case scenarios that some economists are depicting--implying that even banks that pass the stress test may need more funding down the line.
Gradually America is realizing that we must do something--now. We already have a framework for dealing with banks whose capital is inadequate. We should use it, and quickly, with perhaps some modifications to take care of the unusual nature of today's problems. There are several ways we can proceed. One innovative proposal (variants of which have been floated by Willem Buiter at the London School of Economics and by George Soros) entails the creation of a Good Bank. Rather than dump the bad assets on the government, we would strip out the good assets--those that can be easily priced. If the value of claims by depositors and other claims that we decide need to be protected is less than the value of the assets, then the government would write a check to the Old Bank (we could call it the Bad Bank). If the reverse is true, then the government would have a senior claim on the Old Bank. In normal times, it would be easy to recapitalize the Good Bank privately. These are not normal times, so the government might have to run the bank for a while.
Meanwhile, the Old Bank would be left with the task of disposing of its toxic assets as best it can. Because the Old Bank's capital is inadequate, it couldn't take deposits, unless it found enough capital privately to recapitalize itself. How much shareholders and bondholders got would depend on how well management did in disposing of these assets--and how well they did in ensuring that management didn't overpay itself.
The Good Bank proposal has the advantage of avoiding the N-word: nationalization. Some believe a more polite term, "conservatorship" as it was called in the case of Fannie Mae, may be more palatable. It should be clear, though, that whatever it is called, the Good Bank proposal entails little more than playing by longstanding rules, a variant of standard practices to deal with firms whose liabilities exceed their assets.
Those who say the government cannot be trusted to allocate capital efficiently sound unconvincing these days. After all, it's not as though the private sector did a very good job. No peacetime government has wasted resources on the scale of America's private financial system. Wall Street's incentives structures were designed to encourage shortsighted and excessively risky behavior. The bankers were supposed to understand risk, but they did not understand the most elementary principles of information asymmetry, risk correlation and fat-tailed distributions. Most of them, while they may have been ethically challenged, were really guided in their behavior by the perverse incentives they championed. The result was that they did not even serve their shareholders well; from 2004 to 2008, net profits of many of the major banks were negative.
There is every reason to believe that a temporarily nationalized bank will behave much better--even if most of the employees are still the same--simply because we will have changed the perverse incentives. Besides, a government-run bank might spend some time and money teaching its employees about risk management, good lending practices, social responsibility and ethics. The experience elsewhere, including in the Scandinavian countries, shows that the whole process can be done well--and when the economy is eventually restored to prosperity, the profitable banks can be returned to the private sector. What is required is not rocket science. Banks simply need to get back to what they were supposed to do: lending money, on a prudent basis, to businesses and households, based not just on collateral but on a good assessment of the use to which borrowers will put the money and their ability to repay it.
Meanwhile, there needs to be an orderly plan for disposing of the old bad assets. There is no magic in moving them around from one owner to another. In some countries, government agencies (often hiring private subcontractors) have done a good job of selling off the assets. Other countries (including some hit in the East Asia crisis a decade ago) have had an unfortunate experience, bringing in investment banks and hedge funds to dispose of their assets. These institutions simply held them for the short time it took the economy to recover and made a huge capital gain at the expense of the country's taxpayers. To add insult to injury, some even took advantage of tax havens to avoid paying taxes on those huge profits. These experiences suggest caution in turning to hedge funds and other investment firms.
Every downturn comes to an end. Eventually we will be able to sell the restructured banks at a good price--though, one hopes, not one based on the irrational exuberant expectation of another financial bubble. The notion that we will make a profit from the bailouts--which the financial sector tried to convince us were "investments"--seems to have dropped from public discourse. But at least we can use the proceeds of the eventual sale of the restructured banks to pay down the huge deficit that this financial debacle will have brought onto our nation.
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Show AllUh, Pat, two things.
First, nationalization - or conservatorship, or receivership, or pre-privatization, or whatever you prefer to call it - IS bankruptcy as I believe Prof Stiglitz noted in his article.
Second, as Prof Stiglitz pointed out, the main difference between banks and most private enterprises is that the Government (you and I) is on the hook to make virtually all of the depositors in the bank whole by virtue of the FDIC-provided deposit insurance. If the bank goes bankrupt without nationalization, the Government (you and I) does not get reimbursed for that outlay - or reimbursed at a potentially severely reduced rate.
The point of nationalization is manifestly not to "make US banks profitable." It is to make sure that the banks get cleaned up - so they can be returned to private hands, hopefully, to become profitable - and that the Government (you and I) reduces its exposure to loss.
Under Stiglitz's proposal, the management that oversaw this mess - the ones I assume you so quaintly refer to in your last sentence - would, presumably, be forced out and most stockholders and junior debt hoders would, presumably, lose their investments. So, your understandable zeal for retribution would be satisfied but at a greatly reduced cost to the Government (you and I).
There is no limit to how many banks one can open accounts with, each one of which is separately FDIC (government) insured.
See FDIC FAQ question #10:
http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/deposits/insured/faq.html
That allowance was turned into a business model called CDARS:
"...the Certificate of Deposit Account Registry Service (CDARS®), a network of 1,733 banks that allows a single client to insure up to $50 million in CD deposits by distributing them throughout the network." See:
http://www.sbnonline.com/Local/Article/13890/68/20/CDARS.aspx
Or, as AIG would call it "regulatory arbitrage"
Yes, it is getting increasingly difficult to grok the language of high finance. That term is great, though, for framing the question: how will increasing regulation reduce regulatory arbitrage?
Um, Pat, I didn't say the government (you and I) has to buy bankrupt banks.
It IS written in stone that the government (you and I) has to make good on deposits in those banks if they fail. Yes, that guarantee is only up to $100,000 per "depositor" per bank (if you and your spouse had two kids, you could easily stretch the covered amount to 600,000 or 700,000 in each bank), but that covers 80-90% of the funds. (Plus, in the past, the FDIC has generally made good on 100% in order to maintain confidence in the system. From the government's (you and I) perspective, its better to have these funds in the banking system than elsewhere. Gives the governement's (you and I) monetary policies more leverage and helps maintain the stability of the overall financial system.)
For Citi and BoA alone, I believe you are talking upwards of 4.5 to 5 trillion.
Repeat to yourself: Nationalization IS bankruptcy. Nationalization protects US.
But by the presence of the FDIC, weren't the losses already nationalized, to a large extent? And only part of the profits, after taxes, were private anyhow?
Prof. Stiglitz writes, "More recently, another idea has been put forward: the government would insure bank losses." But isn't that what happened back in the 1930s when the FDIC was created?
Prof. Stiglitz also offers, "The failure of a bank results in particular hardship to depositors and can lead to broader problems in the economy. These are among the reasons that the government has provided deposit insurance."
What is the difference between the federal government insuring bank losses and providing deposit insurance? Either way, it means more risky behaviour on the part of the banks, because there's less to worry about losing -- the federal government got your back, gamble away.
Prof. Stiglitz doesn't see this problem, as apparently, "Those who say the government cannot be trusted to allocate capital efficiently sound unconvincing these days. After all, it's not as though the private sector did a very good job."
But what part of the private sector was the government's FDIC? And what part of the private sector is the setting of interest rates by the government's Federal Reserve? Granted, that manipulates credit first, but capital flows where the cheap credit goes -- housing being the (sub)prime example.
Prof. Stiglitz comments, "We have no idea if the Fed is doing a good job of assessing risk and whether interest rates commensurate with the risks are being charged. Given the Fed's recent record, there is no reason for confidence. But there is a consensus that whatever the Fed is doing, it is not enough. "
Geithner was at the NY Fed for years while this was going on and is now at the Treasury. Enough, then, of what, has he not done? Damage?
Freedom, my man,
You have a profound misunderstanding of deposit insurance. It is NOT there to protect the banks. It is there to protect the depositors (in the case of a bank failure). Its not the depositors that were gambling (unless you consider a 2-3% interest earning savings account a gamble), it was the bank managers and, by extension, the owners.
In no way does deposit insurance shield the owners and managers of a bank from the consequences of their risky behavior. The insurance kicks in AFTER the banks assets are used to make depositors whole.
This is totally different than insuring the owners and managers against loss - which is exactly what Geithner's proposals to date would do. (I don't gather from this article that Stiglitz is any more a fan of Geithner than you.)
Zaphod, you are correct, deposit insurance protects depositors. Therefore, the bank doesn't have anything to worry about! They take your one dollar deposit and loan out ten dollars only because they don't ever have to worry about paying you back. In between bonuses, bankers might consider what would happen if they had to pay back what they lost out of their own pockets. But I doubt it.
@Freedom
I don't quite see what you are saying here. The bank has the same worries whether the FDIC is there or not(lets ignore bank runs). If the bank fails, there is no difference to the former bank employees/owners. The only difference is to the depositors. In one case, they are left with nothing, in the other they get most of their money back. Can you clarify.
TXP, you nailed it -- bank runs. We can't ignore those. My understanding is that they were caused by depositors questioning the ability of the bank to pay them back -- to cover their liabilities to their depositors. With that concern covered over in part by the FDIC, then depositors didn't worry about bank runs anymore. So the banks didn't worry about them, either.
What the FDIC has the effect of then is keeping banks in business for longer periods of time, no matter how risky their behaviour. I would postulate that bank employees and owners certainly want to keep their jobs as long as possible, as would most working people; and on the flip side, customers would like to keep their money deposited as long as possible, too. But with the FDIC, bank employees and owners can keep their jobs much longer, and customers can keep their money in the bank longer, because both parties have less to worry about. So the FDIC is in effect a subsidy on both sides of the transaction: banksters & customers. This subsidy creates a sense of stability, until a point. But it can't eliminate risk completely -- as we're finding out now.
So, if the deposits weren't covered by the FDIC, you think an unscrupulous banker would care if they weren't able to pay the depositors back? The funds to make the loans are not coming out of their pockets.
Banks can only make loans based on the funds they have on deposit (less reserve requirements) - to a banker, a loans an asset and a deposit is a liability. They have to balance their assets adn liabilities.
That's not the source of the problem, here. The problem is that the assets, mortgage backed securities (MDS) and credit default swaps (CDS), in particular are apparently only worth a fraction of what they paid for them.
The fact that Sir Bubbles is proposing Nationalization says it all.
I assume the "Mr. Bubbles" reference is for Greenspan or Dodd and not Stiglitz. If the leading proponent of free market unrestrained capitalism is talking nationalization of the banks then things are dire indeed.
I do not see Obama supporting such action, though it may very well be the smartest move available. He would be pilloried even more by his friends across the aisle.
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so." Bertrand Russell
He would face even deeper resentment from conservatives, absolutely. However, if the public hears a huge outcry from the Republicans and then the plan works, Republican political stock will plummet even further.
Mr. Obama is pouring money into the financial system to pay back his supporters.
Nothing will change with this current rescue program. Look at who is supervising these programs, the same old crowd who got us into this financial mess.
The word is: "if the too big to fail banks go down, the USA goes down."
Joseph Stiglitz has gotten to precisely the correct diagnosis and treatment of the problem in the core problem: looting by way of externality cost scamming, when he says:
“There is a basic principle in environmental economics called "the polluter pays": polluters must pay for the cost of cleaning up their pollution. American banks have polluted the global economy with toxic waste; it is a matter of equity and efficiency that they must be forced, now or later, to pay the price of cleaning it up.”
This needs to apply to asbestos, cigarette smoke, oil spills, and now ‘debt bombs’ (like AIG’s CDSs ---- all $5.5 Trillion of them).
There’s a new and ‘innovative’ style of robbery by ‘negative externality cost displacement’ --- which neither Willie Sutton nor Charles Ponzi would have believed, because of it s ability to be done right out “in plain sight” and perfectly legally, if the government is stupid enough to not recognize it as a crime.
The broader seminal issue, at heart, is that there is either no understanding, or no willingness, to address the prime issue that so-called investing, creating, building, financing, and undertaking any economic activity must first and foremost be recognized as spawning two types of societal 'externalities' ---- positive or negative. This simple, but essential truth of realistic political economy is the most important (but missing) factor in any serious and pragmatic decision making about what is 'good' (i.e.. will actually "fix" our economy --- not just right now, but always).
Addressing one compelling economic activity; war, it can be simply seen, and proven, that war is the greatest 'negative externality cost' producer of any possible economic activity --- in that war is a 100% producer of 'negative externality costs' and a zero percent producer of any 'positive externality benefits'.
Economic actors, producing war, cigarettes, or 'debt bombs', are similarly close to 100% producers of 'negative externality costs' against us, our country, our environment, our world, and 0% producers of any 'positive externality benefits'.
This immutable truth of economics does not by any means mean that a specific economic actor (corporation, bank, hedge fund, private equity pirate) can not turn a handsome profit on war, cigarettes, 'debt bombs', etc. --- as is amply demonstrated today by the vast riches so produced and funneled to these private faux profit makers, and also proven by the pure costs and losses, in both deaths and monetary pain, heaped upon us, our country, our environment, and our small fragile planet.
Thus, the claim that 'any' sort of investing, financing, or economic ‘growth’ is helpful, is absolute lunacy.
What we (in the US most particularly, and the capitalist world generally) desperately need is a new kind of EPA --- externality protection agency ---- which analyses and ranks the 'negative externality costs' compared with any 'positive externality benefits' of any public market financed economic actions, and then uses regulatory, and/or tax policy to dissuade or incent such economic activity in the public interest. [The analyzing and cost assessing body (EPA) could be purely governmental, but would be much more efficient, effective, and unimpeachable if it included governmental, academic, scientific, and private experts.]
Lacking such a Hippocratic-like agency to insure that the pledge to 'first do no harm' is enforced, the capitalist world, led by the ruling-elite 'corporate financial Empire' nominally headquartered in the US and controlling our country by hiding behind the facade of its two-party 'Vichy' sham of democracy, and supported by its equally 'Vichy' propagandist media, will very likely and very soon destroy all of us, our families, our country, our environment, and our small fragile planet ---- while blissfully and arrogantly reporting wonderful GDP growth, great return on investment, and faux private profits right up to extinction.
Sincerely,
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
however it is applied -- to me it is as simple as :
WIPE OUT THE SHAREHOLDERS and BOARDs and CEO's . period.
if they were all HAPPY to get profits and collectively participating in a SCAM of the public -- they should be just as READY to be WIPED OUT and put out of business altogether.
CUT -- and CUT CLEANLY. period.
The fact that Stiglitz is not in the administration, and people like Summers and Geithner are, speaks volumes.
Finally, someone making sense.
and while the USA coddles the bankers and criminals....while putting band-aid on where MONEY OUGHT TO GO -- to ordinary people through better wages and investments in jobs for domestic consumption...
look at the OPPOSITE that China is doing: investing on its PEOPLE:
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China Business
Mar 6, 2009
Wen pledges cash for growth
By Olivia Chung
HONG KONG - Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, in a keenly anticipated speech to the country's top legislative assembly on Thursday, offered barely enough to maintain optimism in China's ability to weather the global downturn, even as he declined to announce new plans to stimulate the economy.
China's mainland stock markets, which had surged about 6% on Wednesday on the prospect of a new stimulus package being announced to the National People's Congress (NPC), faltered before recovering in late trading.
Wen pledged to the 11th NPC in Beijing that China, the world's third-biggest economy, would maintain growth at about 8%, a rate seen by many analysts as the minimum necessary to absorb new
workers and avoid social unrest as millions are laid off amid the global economic downturn.
Investors had expected a spending package on top of the 4 trillion yuan (US$584 billion) stimulus announced last November and to be spent over the next two years. Instead, they heard Wen outline plans, not clearly part of that package or in addition to it, that included a lower tax burden for individuals and companies, higher fixed asset investment, and permission for municipal governments to raise money by selling through the Finance Ministry 200 billion yuan in bonds.
Wen said the country will act to expand consumer demand, seen as vitally important as exports slump, with higher pay for public sector employees, including 12 billion yuan to be spent on increased wages for 12 million teachers.
The widely watched CSI 300 Index closed up 0.87% while Hong Kong's benchmark Hang Seng Index slipped 0.97%. The city's China Enterprises Index, which follows companies listed in Hong Kong and with stakes of at least 30% held by mainland state or local governments, closed down 0.69%, reversing earlier gains.
Wen said China's priority in the year ahead was to deal with the global financial crisis and promote steady and rapid economic development. His speech, similar to the United States presidential State of the Union address, details the government's work over the past year and its plans for the coming year.
Wen acknowledged that 2009 could be "the most difficult year for China's economic development since the beginning of the 21st century", with the global financial crisis still spreading and yet to bottom out. He also said a trend towards global deflation was becoming more obvious and that trade protectionism is rising.
Listing key government tasks for the year, he said, "We must channel government investment to areas where it best counteracts the effects of the global financial crisis and to weak areas in economic and social development."
In his two-hour address, Wen said the government will "significantly increase" government spending to expand domestic demand and adopt "a proactive fiscal policy". No government investment will be made "in the regular processing industries".
the bank bailouts are like someone selling lemonade from rotten lemon ....and the asking price is an arm and a leg to "enjoy" the lemonade......
it;s like trying to sell rotten banana as fresh and asking for the price of an orchard of pineapples...
it's like saying they can fly you to the moon on a kite and a string...
Tunneling and Looting
http://baselinescenario.com/2009/03/05/confusion-tunneling-and-looting/
Link works in browser window....well worth reading.
I really really wish Mr. Stiglitz was in the Obama administration. I'm afraid Obama's economic team's actions will destroy any chance for Obama to succeed in his ambitious agenda, which I support.
Perhaps the US government doesnt have the skills to make banks profitable, but they do have excellent skills in taking over banks, e.g. Indymac, when they fail, restructuring and then sending them back out into the private sector. And clearly we have a couple of huge failures in BofA and Citi.
When Joseph E. Stiglitz wasn't picked, it was a moment of deep reflection. It felt like the celebration was shortlived.
If only the revolving credit card companies would tank! Only American politics could keep such a horrible system alive when it should die, die, die.
I suppose it is kind of weird having a VP formerly known as "MBNA Joe", you know? Kind of like having an oil man in office when the oil companies are in trouble.
you know what I mean? strange world, indeed.
the banks and credit card companies are the Finance version of the Pharmaceuticals :
they are DRUG PUSHERS and LEECHES...who came into existence and maintain themselves by taking advantage of Human Need and then insinuate themselves as "value" creators and managers out of PURE AIR .
they are PARASITES .
As usual Stiglitz makes sense. Obama's advisers and most members of Congress probably hate him. If Obama delays or gets this wrong we are in deep trouble. Unfortunately North Americans are so ideologically trapped that they can't see straight. Sometimes governments have to take charge, like in war, and this is surely a war.
This is supposed to be a zombie movie, not They Saved Greenspan's Brain. Don't feed the head, destroy it! Now!
Though Stiglitz makes more sense than most, economists helped get us into this mess. Let the people decide with binding public referendums.
Hmmmmm. Well, assuming that the gov't actually wanted to crack down on this -which might be a dubious assumption - you could probably limit the coverage to 100,000 per SSN, period.
But that would have the effect of pushing this money out of the conventional banking system and I'm not sure why you would want to do that.
Also, what, really, is the harm, here? If I have a million dollars and spread it around ten banks to maximize my FDIC protection, the FDIC is only going to have to pay in those instances where the banks actually go belly up. If all ten banks - or even half of them go under, we got bigger problems.
Finally, in practice, the FDIC tends to cover all deposits, anyway - even those above the 100,000 limit. They aren't obliged to, but they do to increase the confidence in the banking system - which is the whole point of the FDIC.
Sorry, this was meant to be a response to Freedomcorpse @ 5:15
Zaphod, got it, thanks! Concerning limiting everybody in the banking system to $100K based on their SSN, I find the privacy implications unsettling. This would require reporting of all customer banking transactions to the federal government on a daily basis into a centralized database. I've got no interest in that information walking away from a government facility on a USB thumb drive.
And while you're certainly correct about the FDIC covering a lot more than the limit, in practice, they haven't had to deal with as many bank failures as we've seen lately. Plus, they don't have a lot there in the FDIC coffers to begin with. In 2008, the FDIC's "fund reserve ratio declined from 0.76 percent at September 30 to 0.40 percent at year end."
See last paragraph:
http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2009/pr09027.html
What, then, happens if the FDIC has to cover more losses than .4% of all deposits? Where does that money come from? Thin air? Or does the FDIC go bankrupt?
The facts of the matter are that whatever decisions our govt make regarding our banking institutions the effects are going to be felt around the world. While I join with many who feel deceived and angry at those who destroyed our financial institutions , and made billions while doing so,and that they should feel the full brunt of the law, etc., one must temper ones anger with sound judgment precisely because of the involvement of the world's economy.
We may never feel the cold deliciousness of revenge but we can do what is best to salvage as much as we can while reducing hardships at home and abroad. Nationalization of these banks ensures that the crooks are shown the door at least and the banks then can be cleaned up and sold to hopefully more honest management.
Of course the plan must include strict regulatory powers so lacking under previous administrations.
"Most people would sooner die than think, in fact they do so." Bertrand Russell
Stiglitz cogently writes, "Somehow, it is believed that moving the bad assets around into an aggregator bank will create value. But I suspect that Wall Street is enthusiastic about the plan not because bankers believe that government has a comparative advantage in garbage disposal but because they hope for a nontransparent bonanza from the Treasury in the form of high prices for their junk."
The truth is that among the ruling-elite 'looting class' what they all want is a "nontransparent bonanza", a seemingly honest "scheme", a veiled 'con-job', and any other guileful ruse that they can use to expropriate unsustainable levels of profits to themselves, while dumpin gthe costs on us or government or anyone but them.
More than 15 year ago Earl Shorris wrote a little known book, "A Nation of Salesmen" in which he humorously exposed the American tendency to make money by variously doing what salesmen always do; to make something appear better than it really is for the customer and in doing so get the commission for themselves. But that was then, and now is now. And I'm guessing that if Shorris is still alive and was motivated to write another book today, he would be hard pressed to find a more accurate title conveying the over-class elite of America than, "A Nation of Con-Artists".
What has really changed in this country in the past three decades is the increased understanding among such con-artists that the fastest and safest way to 'game' the system to your advantage (and others cost) is not selling cars, or real estate, or cigarettes, or liquor, or even drugs, but in designing a 'negative externality scam' and then getting other con-men to sell it for you.
The great advantage (for a con-man) in dealing in 'negative externality cost' cons is that, unlike having to hard-sell a crappy car for more than it's worth, selling some nebulous 'negative externality cost' dripping product (like CDOs or CDSs) seems like a good deal fro both the seller and buyer, since it can be generally designed such that an oblivious third party (like the US government) gets nicked with the negative externality costs.
We have just witnessed the biggest Ponzi scheme in the world, and I don't mean that small scale piker Bernie Madoff, who only stole $50Billion. No, I mean the theft and looting via the device of 'negative externality cost displacement, all perfectly legally done (thanks to Phil Gramm) in this Wall Street heist of all of us in America to the tune of many trillions!
Stiglitz makes a key point of changing and insuring that the incentives/disincentives have to very strongly, clearly, simply, and "transparently" set-up to steer financial behavior in a direction that is positive (like positive externalities) and strongly against allowing the sneaky creation of any 'negative externality costs' ---- as he says, "polluter pays".
Today I wrote a comment to another Nobel laureate in economics, Paul Krugman, in response to his blog conversation "One sided debate" (about the fact that the important and correct side of the debate in America never seems to get in the media), and I pleaded that the most important factor is just this 'externality' issue, but that very emotive and convincing liberal/progressive columnists like the Times' Frank Rich, while they can more people's thought need help from economists to demystify this most important issue:
Alan MacDonald
Sanford Maine
[Cont.]
Paul, talk about media deceit?
As was famously said by Col. Jessep, "You want the truth?"
"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
Paul, your comrade, Frank Rich, is trying to tell the truth, and "nothing but the truth" ---- but he needs help from a real economist to tell "the whole truth".
Do you know any really good political economist who could help him (and us) fill in the missing puzzle piece of that "whole truth"?
That missing puzzle piece begins with 'E', but its not Empire, nor Elitism, nor Extinction --- although they tie together --- it's Externalities.
Paul, you've often and recently said, "what may be good for one person --- if done by all --- can cause great damage."
And I'm sure you know that Adam Smith (the moral philosopher) thought like you, and knew that seeking personal gain to the point of unlimited greed did not a good 'capitalist' model make.
But Smith never really understood that a day might come when the 'gaming' of negative externality costs (on society) might guilefully become the biggest game in the world --- and possibly sink our world in a Titanic flood of 'debt bombs'.
Paul, you well understand the current economic disaster and the hubris that caused us to head toward the abyss in this Titanic sinking --- as falsely designed water-tight compartments (like CDOs and CDSs are ineluctably breached) --- and you can provide "the whole truth", as well as the solution (if there still is one).
Frank Rich probably doesn't know that the biggest factor in political economics is the difference between economic actions (and 'actors') which create 'positive externality benefits' and those that now create deadly 'negative externality costs' --- but you surely do.
An old guy named Hippocrates got his name on a pretty famous oath just for reminding doctors to "First, do no harm".
Hell, with a Nobel under you belt already (in your fifties) what better award could you wish for than a simple oath instructing 'economic bad actors' (and government cops to enforce) than to, "First, do no harm".
As Bogie might say, “This could be the beginning of a beautiful Krugmanian Oath." -- and by doing so ---- "Remember, we'll always have New York, and Washington, and Boston, and Paris .....
"Here's looking at you, kid" --- (for the solution)
Hope I'm not putting too great a load on your shoulders, Paul.
Atlas may have shrugged, but we don't expect that from you, guy.
BTW, the title “Empire, Elitism, Externalities, and Extinction” is copyrighted (by Alan MacDonald) as a book (to protect it against Jared Diamond and all others), but we can talk about a movie deal. Have your people call my people --- and before it’s too late.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
If the banks are nationalized, the government will become the owner of the banks’ good and bad assets and it will have to assume the banks’ contractual obligations towards their creditors, investors, and account holders. In particular, any contractual guarantees given by the banks to the owners of now-worthless risky “innovative” financial vaporware will become de facto contractual obligations of the government towards these owners.
They say that nationalization will "wipe the shareholders", etc., etc., but there is no nationalization law prescribing anything like that. On the contrary, nationalizing the banks will allow congress demoblicans to protect their trillionaire friends while uttering all kinds of pompous declarations about the government’s “solemn duty to honor” the “contractual commitments” that the “glorious 2009 act of nationalization” entailed, as otherwise “the markets will lose all confidence in the USA government”, bla bla bla.
Indeed, if we ignore small-fry investors, pension funds etc., the owners of worthless financial vaporware who truly matter to demoblicans are greedy domestic and foreign trillionaires who invested in the financial vaporware with full knowledge of its risks. These trillionaires will lose humongous amounts of money and hence will lose much, if not most, of their economic and political power, if the “financial system” is not “saved” by the taxpayers.
That’s why the trillionaires have mobilized from very early on a mighty armada of bribed economists, journalists, and politicians and ordered them to call wolf about the cataclysms that will ensue if the “financial system” fails. “Saving the financial system” is indeed the obfuscating phrase invented by these bribed economists, journalists, and politicians to try saving this neo-feudal class of trillionaires that is “essential“ to what “America stands for” and to “how things should be after we help them out”, as the “radical” Paul Krugman has put it in print repeatedly.
As you may remember, in the middle ages whenever the feudal class created a mess they rescued themselves for the “sake of the country” by taxing the hell out of the serfs and the bourgeois, but now with “the triumph of liberty” all of that has changed… yeah right!
But there is no need to save the trillionaires, regardless of how much money they have given to bribed economists, journalists, and politicians; and regardless of whether the flow of bribes may stop if the trillionaires fail for good.
The banks should be allowed to go through an orderly bankruptcy that preserve their real-economy presence and protect the savings of their non-reckless customers up to say 200k per account and up to say 1 million total net worth per person (IRS-declared), where a sliding scale could be used that reflect how "aggressive" the interest-gathering strategy chosen by each account holder was and the extent to which the account holder chose risky “lucrative” financial-speculation products over investments in actual production. The necessary paper trail is available…
One should fire everybody in the *failed* banks' upper management (because they failed, duh!) except for whistle blowers and those essential to day-to-day operations, for those managing customer accounts, and for those having expertise in evaluating loans applications by companies that produce actual goods, be they trinkets, essential insurance products, etc.
Social criteria like protecting pensions could also be used by simply dividing the amount invested by each pension by the number of people the pension represents in order to determine what the pension can get in terms of protection and for which individual accounts (since pension-holders who chose especially reckless financial-speculation products should be protected less).
So it’s not time to nationalize the losses of this self-anointed neo-feudal class of trillionaires masters of the universe. Rather, it’s time to shut down their failed banks, let the greediest investors bite the dust, claw back any bailout money given so far to them and the banks, and use this and more money to jump start directly the flow of credit into the economy after “nationalizing” (hiring back!) the banks’ existing experts in locating, evaluating, financing, and following-through worthy entrepreneurial ventures in real production and giving them new institutional backing and responsibilities.
This crisis must teach harsh lessons to the most reckless of investors and bankers, and spare those investors and bankers who tried the hardest to stay away from the greedy madness of the last 30 years, even if only for moral reasons.