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Criticizing the McCain campaign for refusing to allow reporters to question Sarah Palin, Time's Jay Carney writes:
Political operatives love to talk about circumventing the media and other co-called "elites" -- i.e., independent specialists, observers and thinkers. The operatives convince themselves they can take their candidate's message directly to the people -- on their terms, without all that poking and prodding and skepticism. That's propaganda. In a democratic society, it rarely works for long.If only that were true. But if there's one indisputable lesson from the last eight years, it's that political propaganda works exceedingly well -- not despite an aggressively adversarial press but precisely because we don't have one. Carney's idealistic claims about the short life-span of propaganda in American democracy are empirically false:
"Half of Americans now say Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the United States invaded the country in 2003 -- up from 36 percent last year, a Harris poll finds" (Washington Times, 7/24/2006); "Nearing the second anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, seven in 10 Americans continue to believe that Iraq's Saddam Hussein had a role in the attacks" (Washington Post, 9/6/2003); "The same poll in June showed that 56% of all Republicans said they thought Saddam was involved with the 9/11 attacks. In the latest poll that number actually climbs, to 62%" (USA Today/Gallup poll, 10/6/2004); "The latest Harris Poll has some interesting results on public opinions of Saddam Hussein's possible links to al Qaeda. Of those Americans polled, 64% agree that Saddam Hussein had 'strong' links to al Qaeda" (Harris poll, July 21, 2006); "49 percent of Americans think the president has the authority to suspend the Constitution . . . Only a third of Americans understood that much of the rest of the world opposed our invasion [of Iraq]. Another third thought the rest of the world was cheering our invasion, and a third thought the rest of the world was neutral" (Rick Shenkman, June, 2008).
Of course Carney is right in theory that anyone running for Vice President ought to submit to questioning from the media. But the idea that her doing so will be some great blow against propaganda is wrong for numerous reasons. Who are these great, aggressive journalists who are going to question her in a meaningfully adversarial way in order to expose the falsehoods behind the image that is being created around her?
When they decide in a couple of weeks that Palin is ready to do so, she'll go and sit down with Brit Hume or Larry King or Charlie Gibson or some other pleasant, accommodating person who plays a journalist on TV and have a nice, amiable, entertaining chat about topics that are easily anticipated. Having been preceded by all sorts of campaign drama about her first interview and the excitement that she's not up to the task, her TV appearance will be widely touted, score big ratings, and will be nice entertainment for the network that presents it. It will achieve many things. Undermining propaganda isn't one of them.
This idea that she's some sort of fragile, know-nothing amateur who is going to quiver and collapse when subjected to the rough and tumble world of American journalism is painfully ludicrous, given that -- as the Canonization of the endlessly malleable Tim Russert demonstrated -- that imagery is a fantasy journalists maintain about themselves but it hardly exists. The standard journalistic model of "balance" means that the TV journalist asks a few questions, lets the interviewee answer, and then moves on without commenting on or pointing out false claims, i.e., without exposing propaganda (Carney can check his own magazine to see how that sad, propaganda-boosting process works -- here, here, and here). Few things are easier than submitting to those sorts of televised rituals.
Moreover, Sarah Palin isn't Dan Quayle. She is extremely smart -- much smarter than the average media star who will eventually be interviewing her -- and she is very politically skilled as well. She didn't go from obscure small-town city council member to Governor to Vice Presidential nominee by accident. She'll be more than adequately prepared for the shallow, 30-second, rote exchanges that pass for political interviews in our Serious mainstream discourse. Anyone expecting her to fall on her face or be exposed as some drooling simpleton is going to be extremely disappointed. That might (or might not) happen with real questioning, but she's not going to face that.
If anything, this growing drama about Palin's supposed fear of facing America's super-tough "journalists" who are chomping at the bit to expose her is going to help her greatly, for exactly the reason Digby wrote here, after highlighting Chris Matthews' complaints that Palin won't yet submit to interviews:
As if submitting to Chris Matthews' questions ever told voters anything meaningful about the candidates.Carney is exactly wrong. Propaganda thrives -- predominates -- in our democracy for many reasons, the principal reason being that we don't have the sort of journalist class devoted to exposing it. Anyone who wants to contest that should examine the empirical data above, or more convincingly, just look at what the Bush administration has easily gotten away with over the last eight years -- the systematic deceit, the radicalism, the corruption, the crimes.They are going to work themselves into a frenzy over this. And the right will hold Palin off just long enough for the outcry to become deafening. And then Palin will appear in front of a gargantuan television audience (again) on something like 60 Minutes --- and do quite well. They are already working the media hard to make sure they don't go for the jugular -- and they won't.
People need to get over the idea that Palin's some kind of Britney Spears bimbo. She's a professional politician and from the looks of it, a pretty good one. She's not going to fall on her face on TV. They will build the expectations accordingly.
The ideological extremism and growing ethical questions that define Sarah Palin -- and especially the discredited, rejected core beliefs of John McCain -- means that the McCain campaign should have much to worry about in this election. Having Sarah Palin face the mighty, scary American press corps certainly isn't one of them. That's just a melodramatic distraction, one that will redound to the GOP's benefit. Palin will "face" our media soon enough, and it will probably be the easiest thing she'll have to do between now and November.
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Beginning this Monday, Salon Radio with Glenn Greenwald will resume on its regular schedule (every Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 2:00 p.m. EST). The work involved in traveling to the conventions, covering the protests and other related events, and making videos and the like proved to be far more time-consuming than I anticipated and made producing the radio show virtually impossible. Now that things are returning to normal, the Radio Show will as well.
UPDATE: Several people in comments suggest/hope that Palin's refusal to submit to press questioning will alienate journalists and make them more intent on investigating her and subjecting her claims to scrutiny. A healthy journalistic instinct would indeed produce that reaction. But is that what we have?
It isn't just that the Bush administration has been the most secretive in modern history (though it has been), but Dick Cheney seemed to take sadistic pleasure in purposely concealing from reporters even the most innocuous information, just to show he could. He even refused to say how many people worked in his office, or who worked there, or even where he was and what he was doing on any given day. Did that propel journalists to investigate him more aggressively or subject his claims to greater investigative scrutiny? Yes, that is a rhetorical question. A properly functioning press corps would become more adversarial and aggressive when treated with such contempt by the GOP. Ours becomes more browbeaten, more passive, more eager to please.




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Show AllComments re percentage of americans who believed/still believe iraq has/had WMDs.
No where is it ever stated an over-whelming majority of black americans never bought this WMD crap, that they knew it was a lie from the git-go. Black Americans know that through fear and war mongering the corporate media/govt can sell our white brother and sisters anything.
juniflip
The probably did not pol by race. Do you think? I dont know--I'm white and I was on street corners and at the WPAFB (Air Base) getting beer cans thrown at me, as we were invading Iraq. Just thought of another factor--they probably did polling on land lines. ( I have only a land line)
Don't know how they polled -- don't watch or listen to corporate press -- it's al l propaganda. GG is right on point about the MC campaign introduction of the new product: SP. And further the MC campaign has dared the corporate press to serious interrogate her.
That's why I take the MSM's surveys with a grain of salt
The Republicans are just as sexist as the Democrats. As for the media, they have always been pro-rightwing ever since 1980 or at least obviously so since that year. Mccain has been "shielded" by the media for years already and that was never going to change. Forget about Palin and let's get the FUCK back to focusing on the issues that truly matter. We all can keep digging up past records about Mccain/Palin or Obama/Biden but at a time when this country is FAILING MISERABLY and GOING DOWN THE TOILET IN FLAMES, the last thing this country needs to hear about are more anti-Obama, anti-Palin shit. Neither party is going to help you by the way. They're going to keep FUCKING you for the next 4 years as if 8 weren't enough. And you Hillary whiners need to shut the FUCK up and move on. Like Palin, she's no different from Mccain or Obama. A vote for Mccain/Palin is a vote for Obama/Biden and vice-versa !
Very few people. I think , would vote for McCain, just for palin. (Would alot of you vote for Biden? By himself?) I was amazed as the sexist nature of, not only the cable news, but in the newspaper, the music media, on peole t-shirts, everything! I totally expected it from the Right. Whether you like Hillary or Palin or Pelosi is irrelevent. I DID expect better from the Left. Call me naive. I am NOT trying to be confrontational (havent we done enough of that this season), but, it appears that many think that it is just fine to insult people as to their sex, age (which is almost never a choice) or class, or, even disability, although race is pretty much off limits (I am speaking of teh Left now)Race should be off limits. I knew there was sexism But the total misogyny that came from the Left (female journalists being the worst examples) was quite startling to me. It s NOT helpful , folks.I am NOT sticking up for Palin (everyone is so on edge on the Left, I feel I must qualify everything I say--they will rip us to shreds if we dont stop this!!). I waited to hear her speakk, and now, I can detest her for the person that she is.
Well, you're correct about the Left letting out-of-control type feminism go mainstream. That started in the 1960s, believe it or not, at about the same time the country needed to put an end to racism, at least the blatant type anyway. I'm neither a male chauvenist or a feminist at large. I believe the equal opportunities for both genders, be it women getting equal pay or men getting equal opportunities to wear what they want without getting persecuted in public. Well, you get the idea.
Ah Hah!
"A properly functioning press corps would become more adversarial and aggressive when treated with such contempt by the GOP. Ours becomes more browbeaten, more passive, more eager to please."
Thats just what the Democrats do. Now I understand the assertion that the media is liberal.
Just because you're a coward, doesn't make you liberal. The press is NOT liberal.
Like most right-wing fascist, you avoid the issue, and assert a falsehood--that's cowardly, and look at you.
Obama's not standing up to the rightwing media. Just look at the latest event where Obama showed up on the Bill O'LIEly show. Obama or Mccain, I fear that the worst of the rightwing agenda has yet to come and it's only going to get worse. Sorry.
Yeah, I agree "The [MSM] is NOT liberal".
I disagree however, that being critical of the Democrats makes me a right-wing fascist.
Sorry I hurt your feelings.
That's OK, sorry I called you a right-wing fascist...
Glenn's right on, and thanks to him for shinning light on this. This is such an important question in the right-wing slide into fascism. I want solutions! Amy Goodman's great, Indymedia is wonderful, but they get a tiny viewership who already see beyond the lies. What about the rest of Americans. They're being spoon-fed little morsels of crap, and told it's journalism---and they believe it. And Glenn's right about the follow-up questioning during these so called "interviews". They spout some lie or spin to a softball question and the interviewer moves on---the lie is out there---That's propaganda! What do we do????
I say, bring back the Fairness Doctrine. (We'll never do it with Chairman Kevin Martin, who continuosly ignores the wil of the people)Also, stop de-funding PBS (make it more like BBC--not perfect, but it sure beats FOX and MSNBC!). I cringe everytime they have a Boeing or Lookheed Martin commercial , and , then follow it with a program about wounded veterans.
Wouldn't be so keen to praise the virtues of the BBC. During the RNC, they had next to no coverage of the demonstrations, zero coverage of the preemptive arrest of activists and maximum praise for all things McCain/Palin.
The venerable corporation has further lost it's way since Dr. D. Kelly's 'suicide' caving in to the immense pressure put on to it by Blair's acolytes. Afraid of it's own shadow, these days it wouldn't say boo to a moose.
But it's still leagues ahead of Fox/CNN/et al.
I just said that they were not perfect
Are you speaking of journalists in general or of the ownership and management of media outlets?
Ownership and management set the tone for the journalists to follow. An objective reporter can go out and report honestly, but if the story doesn't air, then the objective reporter will slant the next story---and the next... until it does air...
Thanks!
The national news is propaganda. Ignore it.
Not good enough Stone. You and I know to ignore it. Maybe 20% of Americans know it's propaganda, but what about the other 80% who swallow it?
I know Madcow. I don't believe that we can change the media. What we can change is the culture. Those who are not tuned in will be left behind. Once left behind they will be more likely to be inquisitive and to change themselves. I think it's a much more effective path than attempting to pound concepts into closed minds. It's also much more enjoyable inventing the future with like minded people absent the drag of inattentive or closed minds.
Let's draft Ralph Nader into a debate with these clowns.
Unless the press is forced to allow Nader into the debate atmosphere we are at
the gates of hell. The Bush&Co taking over the Mortgage industry this morning
should be explained as contrary to the "Free Trade" , "The new World Order",
and all those other fabricated Nafta deals that has destroyed our industrial base.
Time for Abama to speak up about our failed economy...What will he do about it?
For some time now, we have been expecting a news reader to become president. Sarah may be the one, and without so much as even a single press conference between her "nomination" and election--just more of the teleprompter performances mixed in with "town hall meetings" before carefully screened adoring idiot fundamentalist republican crowds. Ain't democracy sweet?
I think you've missed the whole point of the article. The press is not at all aggressive, so Palin does not need to fear 'facing the press'. The Repugs are going to keep her away from the press to build up the anticipation, as Greenwald explains, and when she does sit down for an interview with some non-journalist like Larry King, she'll hit them out of the park one after the other. She's a tough, experienced politician and she'll say what she wants and they won't challenge.
For instance, she was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it. There are obviously records of that, things she said in the press, etc. They could spend 5 min. on that and read her some of the things she said at the time and make her look like the liar that she is. Won't happen. She'll claim she's an anti-lobbyist reformer, she'll say it with confidence and skill, and good old Larry (or whoever) will simply move on to the next softball question.
The closest they will come to controversial questions will be to mention that there have been 'claims in the press' of this of that (that she has no experience in internation relations, for instance). She'll have a polished answer that seems to make sense to people who know little about the subject, and the follow-up question that would expose the fluffiness of her answer just won't happen. (Assuming Larry King and "reporters" of his ilk knew enough about geo-politics to question her effectively...a real stretch.)
Just like McCain answers everything with his POW experience, she'll answer everything with references to being from a small town where the 'real' people live, that she's a wonderful mother in a wonderful family, and she sure loves her Jesus. On top of not challenging her in a meaningful way, the 'press reports' the next day will claim that she 'performed' well. Of course.
Americans love that processed cheese and she knows just how to ladle it out. She can't wait to get at the 'press'.
The point is to move the percentages of people who don't understand the propoganda and the weird conservative/liberal media biases (conservative on foreign issues, liberal on domestic issues, in a very general sense). It's always about moving more people to a greater appreciation and understanding of progressive values. Yes, it's infuriating that it is such a slow process, but that doesn't mean we should throw our hands up in the air in total despair.
btw, I looked at the state by state polling data. If there were no Republican shennanigans, stealing of votes, voter suppression: Obama would eke out a win; with the forementioned tricks, McCain will eke out a win. It's going to be very very close. Of the twelve toss-up states (New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, and Montana) 6 will go for McCain for a total of 91 electoral college votes to add to his base of 174; 6 will go for Obama for 66 electoral votes - who has a base of 207 electoral college votes. This would mean:
McCain: 265
Obama: 273
(is the extra 3 Washington, D.C.?)
Besides the right Achilles' Heel of the corporate media's (CM) obsequiousness and bias toward power, my guess is that the continued coverage of Palin will develop in accordance with their left Achilles' Heel: their collective pathological "bully" personality.
Let's say that the infotainwhores DO become "alienated", i.e. pissed off, at Palin because of her initial refusal to dance to their tune. This may generate the kind of cliquish "gaming" from the CM to which Al Gore was subjected even before the 2000 campaign ripened.
As Bob Somerby has made a career of howling, this process is indeed scurrilous and immoral-- reporters, columnists, and pundits collectively deciding to cruelly, even sadistically put down one candidate while fawning over another. Just because they can, or because they need to amuse themselves because "substance" is so boring to them. No high school clique of Heathers is more accomplished at this vile practice.
BUT, let's say that instead of reaching a critical mass or threshold in which the public at large buys into a Goresque Palin putdown, there are indications that a significant bloc of voters remains sympathetic and supportive of Palin, and views her as UNFAIRLY maligned by an elitist CM.
THEN, I predict, we'll see the dynamic of the schoolyard bully when a BIGGER bully shows up, OR when the bully finds that (s)he's not getting the positive regard and sycophantic attention and applause (s)he expected. The bully will break and cave in, and suddenly begin taking a sweeter and more conciliatory tone. Not universally, perhaps, but I guarantee that the tough Received Wisdom condeming Palin as cowardly or incompetent will readily shift to admiration, perhaps grudging at first, that she is "tough", "unflappable", "her own person", etc.
Regardless of her actual qualifications and competence, if Palin stands up to the first growls of disdain, and doesn't either Show Fear or superciliously affect to be Above it All, as Democratic targets are wont to do, the "alienated" CM will soon retract their bitchy little fangs and curl up at her feet.
Criticizing the McCain campaign for refusing to allow reporters to question Sarah Palin, Time's Jay Carney writes:
Political operatives love to talk about circumventing the media and other co-called "elites" -- i.e., independent specialists, observers and thinkers. The operatives convince themselves they can take their candidate's message directly to the people -- on their terms, without all that poking and prodding and skepticism. That's propaganda. In a democratic society, it rarely works for long.
When you read this kind of thing, especially from a prominent organ of the MSM, you know it was written in 1983 or earlier. This is now 1984 and has been since 1968 when Nixon became president and dressed the White House guard in white Napoleonic uniforms and black leather shakos. From then until today the tide of de facto dictatorship and authoritarianism has spread like the Black Death deep into our national character. And the rats carrying the disease are called Repimplicans.
the_idle_wretch
money talks, bullshit walks. That was so in Athens et al ad infinitum.
we are just the current example. But we all seem to enjoy ourselves.
nothing is more important.
The current sad state of American journalism is the result of the WASP corporate elite learning from history. The Robber Baron era was undone to a great extent by "muck raking" journalists. Said muckrakers were able to write and publish because of the fierce competition in the newspaper trade (during that time, New York city had 30 newspapers, for example). A cursory look at the news media ownership picture now as opposed to the Gilded Age, and the difference is the extent of consolidation to the point of near monopoly that currently exists. Whereas competition forced owners to publish muckrakers or be ignored previously, virtual non-enforcement of anti-trust law by a colluding Federal government has given the American public the corporate crud that is passed off as news now.
"Probitas laudatur et alget" Juvenal
"Who are these great, aggressive journalists who are going to question her in a meaningfully adversarial way in order to expose the falsehoods behind the image that is being created around her? "
The Palin-McCain campaign shows its foundational support... From a Seattle Times article posted today which is drawn partially from documents found in a National Archives warehouse in Seattle, and provides a little detail for the disaffected who insist upon "a woman, any woman... never mind the issues, just give us a woman":
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008163431_palin070.html
Rocky the Lying Squirrel and Bullwinkle Kilmia Moose for President!
Glenn is spot on here. Keep in mind that if the American public, in general, is not capable of seeing, or willing to see, through the propaganda, and will not seek the truth, then we will continue to be "governed" by corporations and their political minions. It's all about turning on the lights, and that responsibility falls on each and every one of us. Looking to the MSM to serve the people's interest in illumination is silly. Much of this discussion misses the fact that where journalism in general, and the MSM in particular, were once seen to earnestly serve the public's need for information, this is clearly no longer the case. MSM serves corporate power and corporate power needs a dumbed-down, dependent public. Snapping the American people out of their somnambulance is not the job of journalists alone - it is all of our job.
I agree with you , and do NOT see the majority of Americans as "incapable" of seeing through propaganda.If so many of the former middle class werent' so busy trying to "produce more" (just to keep a job), work 24/7, and terrified that their family would end up out on the street (ie If we had a functioning social safety net)they would have alot more time to look into the issues that are being ignored by the MSM.
With due respect, I would just point out that no one is inherently incapable, but to the extent people allow their conditions to define them, they limit their own access to sources of the truth. I'm a sub-middle-class, single empty-nester, struggling to generate a working wage in the great Pacific Northwest (sans health insurance), so I'm quite familiar with limitations. The point is to recognize that if we accept external conditions as OUR limitations, then we cannot progress toward the truth and I submit that nothing is more important.
I certainly would not disagree with that.
Another Republican bimbo on Blitzer this morning complained that Obama was the most liberal Senator of all. That's good enough for me to vote for him.
But it's a lie. Feingold or Kennedy are more like it.lizard
PLEASE check the voting records...the "most liberal senator" is something the GOP trots out every year!They said it about Gore and Kerry too. Obaam voted for the FISA Amendment, Biden voted FOR the Bankruptcy Bill (his sons works for MBNA),and he voted to keep funding the wars. There are alot of senators much more "liberal", including the above, but, also Brown, Sanders, Boxer, and plenty of Rep. They just take a small slice of issues (conservatives do) and add them up. Since Obama has a very lean voting record (he has not been there that long, and he has been running for president most of the time).I would have liked to see what legislation he would have sponsored--but we didnt get a chance.That is the only value of experience.
Nice analysis!
How about Obama Biden? How does that look?
RichM just did that, DUH ! Pay attention and reread RichM's post again !
Duh...Rich was talking about the Dem's sdtrategy against McCain/Palin, I was asking what he see's in the same way in relationship to Obam/ Biden.
Sometimes I don't make myself clear enough.
Ok, my apologies. You nailed me. As for how RichM sees Obama/Biden, the Democrats already did the dirty work for the Republicans, or at least the Far Right/Corporatist ones (note, there are a lot of truly moderate and fed up Republicans even in my state of South Carolina who can't stand the war in Iraq or the economy and are even going to the point of being liberal. Imagine liberal Republicans that used to exist coming back. Well, ok, it's a long ways perhaps but you get my point). The Democrats don't vote for the people's interests, more often than not, which basically leaves them vulnerable to silly culture attacks. Of course, these days, even on the culture front, neither party looks that much different. Since these two candidacies have become nearly identical, I'm not really sure how RichM would put it. However, we can read his other comments on this post and other topics on this site and might be able to sketch and idea as to what he might say. Interesting and challenging. :-)
" there are a lot of truly moderate and fed up Republicans even in my state of South Carolina who can't stand the war in Iraq or the economy and are even going to the point of being liberal. Imagine liberal Republicans that used to exist coming back. Well, ok, it's a long ways perhaps but you get my point)."
Its not that great a stretch. There are a lot of Republicans in Texas (that I know) that feel the same way. Many hate the war and detest Bush. Frankly I don't know where they find all the people that give him even the low rating he has.
I do apoligize once again for letting him out of the state in the first place.
Oh, not to worry. Bush or no Bush, the Democrats have been this way in Washington, most noticably since the Reagan days. The Republicans, during Clinton's first two years in office, proved that even a minority can clamp down on the majority as they did to Hillary's healthcare plan in the Senate even though it passed in the House. Even in the 1960s, when the Democrats had a veto-proof majority in the Senate, LBJ had to beg for Republicans to support the civil Rights Act as the Dixiecrats were filibustering it as much as they could. History has obviously shown that there are seats that will stay Republican and seats that will stay Democrat no matter what. The Democrats, as RichM has pointed out, have yet to learn how to make do and make the best of what they got. If all they want to do is keep inventing excuses by telling us shit like "Congress may be Democrat but we need a Democrat in the White House", then all they want is power for personal ambitions and not for the public interest. George Lakoff, himself, made it clear that it takes framing the message to win over even a chunk of otherwise opponents. Yes, I still do believe that there are Republicans who will put down their corporate interests and actually fight for the public good only if the Democrats stand up for what they claim to believe in and frame it well.
You make some good points RichM, but once again it seems your "blame democrats first" attitude gets in the way of your reasoning. If you watched the convention on CSPAN (gavel to gavel, with no interruptions by pundits) you could see the D's being VERY critical of the R's, over and over again. If you watch on networks, the critique is totally muted. You can say it as loudly and clearly as possible, and if it gets no coverage---it goes unheard!
I see your point---I shall ponder it...
"Both parties serve ruling class interests. There are only very modest differences in the way that each party performs this function. In the mind of a Democratic voter, these modest differences assume an absurdly exaggerated importance. In reality (and I know you don't understand this), one of the main functions of the Dem Party is protecting the Republican Party, and lending a sheen of legitimacy to the 2-party system. The 2 parties work together to ensure that the ruling class always wins, and that no one else is even allowed in the competition for power."
Yes they serve ruling class interests---that's money and money's what the parties need.
But,
Very modest differences? Do you seriously believe we would've gone to war with Iraq with Gore in office? I doubt if 9/11 would've even happened if it wasn't for either the pure negligence or the real complicity or the Bush cabal. So, what followed from that: Patriot Acts 1&2, MCA, Guantanamo, torture, Iraq and Afghanistan. Not to mention the usual crap from the right-wing like a worse Supreme Court,, more authoritarianism, less science and Gov't regulation...
Absurd exaggeration? Really?
Protection? Your saying that the Democrats secretly wanted all the above and knew they couldn't do it themselves, so they let the R's steal the election and then sat back and gave them cover.
Your right, I don't understand this...
RichM,
Your pre-emptive attacks on readers in your final paragraphing, I fail to call 'conclusions,' invalidating by general statements of 'doesn't understand,' are not supported by any substantive evidence to support your opinions, except the obvious, known, previously documented observations. These observations do not support any singular conclusion. In actuality, the observations give rise to many possibilities, interpretations of what is seen.
Especially when seen from a distance.
She can be associated with an organization that wants to break up the country!! What's more unpatriotic than that? She has supported the separation of Alaska from the US. Isn't that plenty? Country first? Love of America? Hello?lizard
Karita Hummer
The fourth Estate, i.e., Mainstream Media, has utterly failed our democracy. There is little free press around these days, as they are so controlled by Corporate conglomerates. The Press serves the Plutocracy today. They did nothing but give Bush and his company of Pretenders a free pass, from the "selection" by the Supreme Court, through all the other electoral atrocities and thefts in the last eight years, through Constitutional Law violations. You nsme it, their criticismhas been most muted at best.
Karita Hummer
San Jose, CA