ahhh, the neo-nazies have come knocking at your doors....

Paul Craig Roberts recently wrote an article outlining his reasons for asserting that the US has become a police state. I believe he is correct. We are all under surveillance at all times. Look around. Cameras are everywhere. DUI checkpoints are everywhere and they often ask for permission to search your car, and they also have drug sniffing dogs with them. These "checkpoints" are for far more than DUI.

MHCHAOS all over again.

"Nothing was your own except the few cubic centimeters
inside your skull."

--George Orwell,
..1984, Chapter Two.

Hello, police state.

These tactics have been seen in California in recent years, so it doubtless reflects the FBI's ongoing national campaigns. You don't need Herbert Hoover anymore after so many years of the national security state, McCarthyism and Cointelpro being institutionalized.

Still, these Stazi-like tactics are rather surprising. The peace movement of late has been unable to gather much interest from the U.S. citizenry, which can't unglue itself from the TV and from voting for the Dem/Repug war party.

Certainly, the corporate-owned media could care less about the ongoing senseless slaughters in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan that are impoverishing our commonwealth and killing, maiming and destroying lives. We'll be shelling out something like $3 trillion of taxpayer dollars on Iraq alone (according to economist Joseph Steglitz), but don't expect our maimed boys and girls to get much help from the VA. They joined out of poverty, and limbless in poverty they'll be, purple heart and all. It's their right and privilege.

Bombing people is terrorism and the U.S. military consciously practices it, calling it "shock and awe." U.S. drone assassinations are extrajudicial killings. There are some people at a base in Nevada who are carrying out these crimes. They're called soldiers who pilot drones, but the countries they are fighting aren't at war with the United States. Congress has declared no wars and it's been far longer than 90 days for the President to provide them with an explanation for the troop deployments. Obama is on record for supporting these assassinations, which are clearly illegal under domestic and international laws.

The wars are the true threat to U.S. national security. Doubtless, the United States will be in hock to its foreign creditors for decades to come. But, the FBI is an ideological organization. It protects the status quo from Constitutionally protected actions, such as speech and assembly rights.

"Terrorism" is the new all-purpose clamp-down tool. "Protest pens" are the new accommodation in a time when civil liberties have been rubbed out by the unconstitutional U.S.A. PATRIOT Act and an unnatural theory of Presidential power called "the unitary executive" (read "king").

If the FBI is looking for collusion with terrorists, it's not hard to find. Isn't Luis Posada Carriles (Cuban airline bomber) still in Florida somewhere? The U.S. government armed Hatian FRAP members with small arms before kidnapping the elected president of Haiti, Jean-Bertrand Aristide (many former Bush Administrations officials should be questioned about that). I would also direct the FBI to the U.S. Agency for International Development, which funneled U.S. taxpayer money to organizations involved in the Venezuelan coups. How about former Clinton lawyer Lanny Davis who advocates for the business coup leaders in Honduras. Oh, I guess legal advocacy of criminal behavior may not be a crime, but the U.S. government did imprison lawyer Lynn Stewart for passing a note from her client, imprisoned Muslim cleric Abdel-Rahman (accused of conspiracy in early World Trade Center plots).

Clearly, the FBI doesn't recognize all terrorism. It doesn't recognize the Constitution, which actually gives the people the right to overthrow the U.S. government whenever it becomes unprotective of the Constitution. Sure, they are bloated bureaucrats with nothing to do but pursue their own ignorance and ideology, but they're not harmless. They should be gradually defunded and then abolished. We don't need this kind of "protection."

-TIA

The FBI should be renamed the Fascist Bureau of Intelligence...they are a serious threat to our Constitution and freedoms...the overly broad and vague 'material support of terrorism' is the fascist's idea of perfect law b/c dissent, protesting, journalism, and political activities the 'authorities' disagree w/ is suppressed and relabeled 'support of terrorism'.

I suspect that this is more widespread than this article would indicate. I think that there are not just 8 addresses being targetted:-

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26453.htm
http://altanews.blogspot.com/2010/09/fbi-raids-six-locations-in-minneapolis.html

I suppose that those of us who are used to the American KGB lurking nearby are obligated to dish.

All national secret police are alike in some ways. They all believe in what they're doing, but after that it's just a job to them, and they love to take job shortcuts if no one is looking.

The Soviet KGB were famous for their ubiquitous nature. They made no effort whatsoever to hide. Nobody paid them enough to hide. Their purpose, they feel, is to intimidate the people.

When it comes down to it, 100% redblooded American spooks equally believe that their job, their reason for being, is to intimidate nuns, kids and little old ladies. Spying out information isn't useful, and they all know this. Inside, they really don't care if they are ubiquitous because intimidation is what a stupid bully knows, and that's who they hire. The IRS agents are exactly the same. They have the power to frighten, so in general they use it against anybody or anything in their way unless a particular agent is on a short leash for some reason.

The main problem with outright bullying is a multimillion dollar class action suit. They've happened many times before and they'll happen again and again, because the suits never seem to hit the outright bullies, just their political handlers, who always pass the bills on to the voters.

Their cousins work for the TSA, screening people, and they always strip search the seniors because real terrorists are, well, dangerous.

The FBI believes that they're really secretive, and with mobsters they are. Sometimes all you have is persistent reports that the FBI is probing around, as with Dr. King's movement.

Once a handful of us were protesting at the gate of a Navy base. We scared a bigwig but good. In about five minutes a 4 foot 6 inch man with waist-long hair (a wig!) was chatting with the guards at the gate. His job was to infiltrate us, but obviously you can't infiltrate a handful of people who all arrived in the same cars. I see two things in the spook's playbook. First, get the smallest infiltrator possible! Get a jockey. And second, get the scuzziest look possible.

We had a local American spookmobile, a small truck. They came up with the most nondescript sign and boring business name possible, "(our business's purported purpose here) Inc", painted in white on the side, but rather small so that no one would ever think to solicit any real business from them. No phone number, either. Anyhow, we had an all-night vigil and the spookmobile drove by us regularly -- there was nothing else moving on the whole street all night. We also saw the van at a local navy base so we suspect it was our federal secret police come to spy on voters as usual. Later on, a vigil of about 100 people were standing at the courthouse and the same van drove by except he got stuck in rush hour traffic, and we were all staring at the driver and he looked guilty as sin, looking away from our collective gaze.

The next trick is for all the American secret police to have the same identifying mark. Once it was a certain meaning-free public service bumper sticker, always on late model American cars. It's fun identifying them.

Everything I know, I learned from the movies.

"The Lives of Others" (Das Leben der Anderen) -2007

The charge is "conspiring to ... support."

Classic McCarthyism.

Dmitry Orlov observed that when the Collapse comes, the people of the US will be woefully unprepared, physically, mentally or emotionally.

He was right.

This is the public unveiling of the criminalization of dissent in the US. Total Collapse, if not Civil War is not far off.

Non Serviam - I will not serve.

Just keep this one in mind, I hear it every time something like this happens:
"You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide."

Even if I did believe that, Federal Grand Juries are basically star chambers of intimidation, and I'm sure that these nice police officers politely knocked on the door (did not use a battering ram destroying the jam), at a reasonable time in the evening either just before or after dinner (not at 3am), were careful with your breakables as they systematically searched for evidence (did not trash your house with malicious glee), and no doubt paid for anything that was accidentally damaged or broken.

People forget that during Facist regimes, if you agree with the facists you have every illusion of freedom. Or maybe the FOX news crowd actually know this.....

Dear FBI:

EXCUSE me, but WE the PEOPLE would like to suggest a different direction. Please grab the home and business computers of the following:

The entire military industrial complex: where did that MISSING money go?

In 2004, the FBI was pulled off its work with looking into the financial doings of Wall St. and banks. That was SEVEN years ago, what the hell have you been doing?

Now that Congress has NOT passed the DISCLOSE ACT, it is up to YOU to find out what foreign nations will be controlling our elections with their money!

That's my top 3, although BP is gaining ground as it tries to now say that it's going into pristine areas and will drill from the SHORE, so it won't be "off shore!" Please deal with these loser semantic people and our real environmental terrorists.

O.K. make that the top FOUR, and oh wait, the TOP FIVE. Citizens are dying from the corporate control of food and medicine. No one is immune from this, including you!

Please remember, that GREAT CIVILIZATIONS FALL APART FROM WITHIN! Follow the MONEY and not the protestors, because that's where the ACTION is!

Please get moving, as that old saying goes, Tempus fugit ( time flies) and you've been chasing the wrong birds!

Sincerely yours ( make that hopefully yours)
stardust