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Mozambique's Food Riots – the True Face of Global Warming
The violence in Maputo is just the latest manifestation of the crippling shortcomings of the global economy
It has been a summer of record temperatures – Japan had its hottest summer on record, as did South Florida and New York. Meanwhile, Pakistan and Niger are flooded and the eastern US is mopping up after hurricane Earl. None of these individual events can definitively be attributed to global warming. But to see how climate change will play out in the 21st century, you needn't look to the Met Office. Look, instead, to the deaths and burning tyres in Mozambique's "food riots" to see what happens when extreme natural phenomena interact with our unjust economic systems.
A boy carries home loaves of bread in Bulawayo, about 400 km (249 miles) outside Harare, April 11,2007. Global commodity speculators continue to treat food as if it were the same as television sets, with little end in sight to what the World Development Movement has called "gambling on hunger in financial markets". (File: REUTERS/Emmanuel Chitate) The
immediate causes of the protests in Mozambique's capital, Maputo, and
Chimoio about 500 miles north, are a 30% price increase for bread,
compounding a recent double-digit increase for water and energy. When nearly three-quarters of the household budget is spent on food, that's a hike few Mozambicans can afford.
Deeper reasons for Mozambique's price hike can be found a continent away. Wheat prices have soared on global markets over the summer in large part because Russia, the world's third largest exporter, has suffered catastrophic fires in its main production areas. These blazes, in turn, find their origin both in poor firefighting infrastructure and Russia's worst heatwave in over a century. On Thursday, Vladimir Putin extended an export ban in response to a new wave of wildfires in its grain belt, sending further signals to the markets that Russian wheat wouldn't be available outside the country. With Mozambique importing over 60% of the wheat its people needs, the country has been held hostage by international markets.
This may sound familiar. In 2008, the prices of oil, wheat, corn and rice peaked on international markets – corn prices almost tripled between 2005-2008. In the process, dozens of food-importing countries experienced food riots.
Behind the 2008 protests were, first, natural events that looked like an excerpt from the meteorological section of the Book of Revelation – drought in Australia, crop disease in central Asia, floods in south-east Asia. These were compounded by the social systems through which their effects were felt. Oil prices were sky-high, which meant higher transport costs and fossil fuel-based fertiliser prices. Biofuel policy, particularly in the US, shifted land and crops from food into ethanol production, diverting food from stomachs to fuel tanks. Longer term trends in population growth and meat consumption in developing countries also added to the stress. Financial speculators piled into food commodities, driving prices yet further beyond the reach of the poor. Finally, some retailers used the opportunity to raise prices still further, and while commodity prices have fallen back to pre-crisis levels, most of us have yet to see the savings.
Is this 2008 all over again? The weather has gone wild, meat prices have hit a 20-year high, groceries are being looted and heads of state are urging calm. The view from commodities desks, however, is that we're not in quite as dire straits as two years ago. Fuel is relatively cheap and grain stores well stocked. We're on track for the third-highest wheat crop ever, according to the Food and Agriculture Organisation of the United Nations (FAO). While all this is true, it misses the point: for most hungry people, 2008 isn't over. The events of 2007-2008 tipped more than 100 million into hunger and the global recession has meant that they have stayed there. In 2006, the number of undernourished people was 854 million. In 2009, it was 1.02 billion – the highest level since records began. The hardest hit by these price rises, in the US and around the world, were female-headed households.
Not only are the hungry still around, but food riots have continued. In India, double-digit food price inflation was met by violent street protests at the end of 2009. The price rises were, again, the result of both extreme and unpredictable monsoons in 2009 and an increasingly faulty social safety net to prevent hunger. There have been frequent public protests about the price of wheat in Egypt this year, and Serbia and Pakistan have seen protests too.
Although commodity prices fell after 2008, the food system's architecture has remained largely the same over the past two decades. Bill Clinton has offered several mea culpas for the international trade and development policies that spawned the food crisis. Earlier this year, he blamed himself for Haiti's vulnerability to price fluctuations. "I did that," he said in testimony to the US Senate. "I have to live every day with the consequences of the lost capacity to produce a rice crop in Haiti to feed those people, because of what I did. Nobody else." More generally, Clinton suggested in 2008 that "food is not a commodity like others… it is crazy for us to think we can develop a lot of these countries [by] treating food like it was a colour television set."
Yet global commodity speculators continue to treat food as if it were the same as television sets, with little end in sight to what the World Development Movement has called "gambling on hunger in financial markets". The recent US Wall Street Reform Act contained some measures that might curb these speculative activities, but their full scope has yet to be clarified. Europe doesn't have a mechanism to regulate these kinds of speculative trades at all. Agriculture in the global south is still subject to the "Washington consensus" model, driven by markets and with governments taking a back seat to the private sector. And the only reason biofuels aren't more prominent is that the oil they're designed to replace is currently cheap.
Clearly, neither grain speculation, nor forcing countries to rely on international markets for food, nor encouraging the use of agricultural resources for fuel instead of nourishment are natural phenomena. These are political decisions, taken and enforced not only by Bill Clinton, but legions of largely unaccountable international development professionals. The consequences of these decisions are ones with which people in the global south live everyday. Which brings us back to Mozambique.
Recall that Mozambique's street protests coincided not only with a rise in the price of bread, but with electricity and water price hikes too. In an interview with Portugal's Lusa news agency, Alice Mabota of the Mozambican League of Human Rights didn't use the term "food riots". In her words: "The government… can't understand or doesn't want to understand that this is a protest against the higher cost of living." The action on the streets isn't simply a protest about food, but a wider act of rebellion. Half of Mozambique's poor already suffer from acute malnutrition, according to the FAO. The extreme weather behind the grain fires in Russia transformed a political context in which citizens were increasingly angry and frustrated with their own governments.
Yesterday, I reached Diamantino Nhampossa, the co-ordinator of Mozambique's União Nacional de Camponeses (National Peasants Union of Mozambique). "These protests are going to end," he told me. "But they will always come back. This is the gift that the development model we are following has to offer." Like many Mozambicans, he knows full well which way the wind blows.
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Show AllExcessive wealth always causes hunger, and if you feel you deserve more, deserve to be all you can be to even the score, when you have all you can eat and more, then part of the problem you are for sure.
Year 2010 (OR IS IT???)
Give a man a fish = feed a man for a day.
Teach a man to fish = feed a man for a lifetime.
Someone needs to show these Africans some real love through knowledge.
??? How come we are so advanced and have so much technology and individual citizens send lots of money to Africa, and many charities as well.......
And these people still Don't know how to DIG A WELL, or BAKE BREAD.
In the deserts of the middle east 2000 years ago they KNEW how to make WELLS.
In the deserts of the middle east 2000 years ago they KNEW how to make BREAD.
DID AFRICA JUST FORGET THESE TECHNIQUES OR WHAT???
If you don't know how to dig a well for water or bake bread for yourself....
Why are you still homeless and having sex making more babies you know you can't feed ??? Africans need to learn priorities. Like home building, baking, farming, and most importantly digging wells. Sex should be last at this point.
I'm tired of just handing things out and these people depending on others to import food???
They have AFRICA the best continent for natural resources, they shouldn't need us to import food to them. Plants grow everywhere around the world, try planting WHEAT for a change. (they certainly don't need imported Coke Cola)
All the problems are not caused by outsiders. It is a frequent occurrence that Africans rob Africans. Africans terrorize Africans. Africans slaughter Africans. Even in the days of slavery, it was Africans who sold Africans into slavery to the white man. To a large extent, Africa is causing its own problems through internal corruption. Like Zimbabwe is not poor because of the "white man", but because of a tyrant who forcibly 'redistributes' wealth as he pleases, other countries in Africa face similar home-made problems. Darfur is not being oppressed by whites. The Rwandan genocide was not executed by whites. The farming in Zimbabwe is not being destroyed by whites. The only place I know of where there's a white vs black war going on is the Central African Republic. The rest of Africa has no excuse except what their own leaders are leading them into.
>>"Zimbabwe is not poor because of the "white man", but because of a tyrant who forcibly 'redistributes' wealth as he pleases.."<<
Jonathan Edwards, I think the true picture concerning Zimbabwe will be hard to get from western media for obvious reasons. Not only they do not present the historical context, they may even directly have a vested interest in presenting a particular version of events. I think there is indeed another side to this story:
"Land - the Key to Zimbabwe’s Economic Growth" - by Kwame Brathwaite
http://www.info-ghana.com/zimbabwe's_truth.htm
The above article was written 8 years ago, and somewhat long. That also makes it interesting, because you could see American interference in Zimbabwe affairs even then. If you have the patience to read through it all, you may see a different perspective. And you can see lots more stories, from Zimbabwe's POV here:
"Zimbabwe Watch"
http://www.raceandhistory.com/Zimbabwe/
http://www.raceandhistory.com/Zimbabwe/part2.html
http://www.raceandhistory.com/Zimbabwe/part3.html
And "truth" must necessarily lie between the reality presented here and the version in the western media.
Here is a summary of the Geography of Mozambique from Oxfam.
"Mozambique lies beside the Indian Ocean in southern Africa. On its borders lie South Africa and Zimbabwe in the south, and Zambia, Malawi and Tanzania in the north. About half the country is made up of flat coastal plain. Heading inland, the land rises and high plateaux and mountains run along the western and northern borders.
Many sizeable rivers, including the Zambezi and Limpopo, flow through Mozambique to the sea. Africa’s largest hydro-electric power dam, the Cabora Bassa, lies in the north-west. Although there’s plenty of water, drought is common in the south of the country.
Mozambique has vast areas of fertile land, which can produce enough food for the nation, as well as exports. Maize, sugar cane, tobacco, rice, tea, and citrus fruits are all grown. But the country’s natural wealth is not fully exploited. Mineral resources such as gold, gemstones and bauxite are still to be tapped. The 2,500km coastline produces marine products, especially prawns, which are the country’s largest single export.
Mozambique has a tropical climate, which is hot and humid. The wet season is from November to March, when about 80 per cent of annual rainfall falls."
So...given this rich and potentially super-productive geography, Why can't Mozambique support itself completely. Why is it not a net Exporter of food ???
As the article concludes, it is the Politics of Greed. What more needs to be said? How sad.
For love springs from knowing you deserve less, whereas greed springs from the illusion that you deserve more. So greed springs from ignorance, a lack of knowing what you in fact do deserve, which causes you to except the illusion that you deserve more.
GREED
Most people believe the illusion that they deserve to live. This gives them no choice but to except the illusion that they deserve the wealth needed to live. Which creates the illusion that they deserve to be all they can be, to own all they can own and to be a dictator over all who are on land that they own.
LOVE
A very few except the reality that this day of life is more then anyone deserve. Which gives them no choice but to except the reality that everything they have belongs to those who are suffering want and need. Which gives them a guilty conscience if ever they miss an opportunity to give all they can give.
EAT LIKE ME -- FROM THE GUILT OF IT ALL BE FREE
If every American cooked like me, we would consume 75% less food, export 75% more food, and with the high cost of food world wide would reap a financial windfall for our economy. So eat fresh fruit over oatmeal for breakfast, lentil stew with natural brown rice and vegetables for dinner. Just two meals a day, no snacks and drink nothing but water.
And if every American like me ate nothing processed by man or animal, only whole food, as grown with none of the vitamins, minerals, bulk or fiber refined out, our butcher medical industry would go bankrupt and 20% more workers and wealth would we have to build mass transit, build new schools and repair infrastructure.
For 35 years being a Lifestyle Educator, raised a family of five and not one penny spent on doctor bills.
The riots are over bread and rice, and prices for those grains skyrocketed suddenly because harvests were destroyed by global warming climate chaos. Extreme heat waves and drought in Russia prompted Putin to ban grain exports, much of Pakistan was flooded, and some countries in Africa have experienced prolonged drought followed by massive floods.
We are now in the Anthropocene era. The impact of 6.86 billion humans is transforming the Earth, much of it for the worse.
Overpopulation is the root cause of problems. ie The decision to have one more child has twenty time more global warming impact than any other life style choice, according to a University of Oregon study. Two billion humans might be sustainable; 6.86 billion is collapsing the Earth's life support systems.
Without China's one child policy there would be 400 million more Chinese today. 400 million is more than the US and Canadian populations combined. China's big mistake is not having started population control centuries earlier. Because of the greed of earlier generations having large families, China has now exhausted its raw material supply and must raid and deplete the whole world to support its enormous population. China's huge population is also causing massive pollution and ecosystem destruction, making China's cities unlivable.
In this extremely overpopulated world, more than one child is wrong, and more than two is criminal.
You are correct, but populations won't limit themselves voluntarily unless they have some other way of getting security in old age besides having children. Plus, healthcare and food for women so they are not forced to bear more children than they can care for. Since we are already over the tipping point in population, that security must come from the affluent people and societies who have been hoarding. Capitalism is like a wild fire.
Also, plants and animals when threatened or under stress, increase their reproduction rate.
Pure democracy indeed. Any idea what the one child law entails? How many baby girls have been killed so that a couple can have a baby boy? How many women have been hunted down by communist party officials and forced into late term abortions? What you propose is the most extreme form of tyranny. The reproductive rights of people laid waste to goals of global empire.
Overpopulation is not a root cause. Overpopulation is a symptom of a global capitalist world where inequalities in wealth, education and security has become the rule rather than the exception. Your neoliberal approach states that we should start killing babies in order for empire to thrive. You can make the same case for war as a form of population control.
We would see a decline in world population if the world populace had a modicum of education and security. A modest shift in the distribution in wealth on the planet would solve this problem. The rich would still be rich. Unfortunately, people like you won't even give up that concession. Instead, we see increased growth of a greed driven global economic system that exacerbates inequality and places whole populations at risk. Then you draw up tyrannical plans of forced population control. You're truly disgusting.
Lefty
Those of us who are ignorant and disgusting would like to be educated.
When you end your posts with a personal attack you completely negate any impact your argument may have had.
Overpopulation in poor countries is a symptom of global capitalism. It is the only "social security" they have. This; and oppression of women and girls, prostitution, rape and lack of birth control. And religions that aggravate these problems.
Octomom is a symptom of ignorance combined with corruption of government and the healthcare system in rich countries; made worse by the disgusting media spectacle, which spreads ignorance. And religions that aggravate these problems.
Now that's disgusting!
Interesting how "global capitalism" is blamed for everything by some. As if the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, and other paragons of communism didn't have even poorer results.
Overpopulation is the simple result of a birth rate exceeding the death rate. The birth rate exceeds the death rate because more children survive childhood and they want to reproduce as much as possible.
I suppose we could cut off medicine supplies and encourage them to kill each other by sending them more weapons. Or we could encourage them to shift to Orwellian Castroite societies in which housing and food are scarce, and they live miserable lives, highly educated and knowing their lives are miserable, and they are powerless to change it because they are ruled by a tyrannical fascist Big Brother and his parasitical nomenklatura.
Advocating slicing fetuses out of the wombs of women is disgusting. It isn't an argument, I was making an observation.
"You're truly disgusting."
That is not an observation. That is a personal attack. Perhaps you could say, you're idea is disgusting to me?
I didn't see anyone "Advocating slicing fetuses out of the wombs of women." You may have percieved an implication of that, but it was not stated. Nor did I take any of those comments that way.
I personally abhor abortion. But I also believe that population control in the world is an absolute imperative. The coming food riots will demonstrate why.
I am under the assumption that anyone who advocates a specific policy such as government mandated population control and then holds up China as shining example of its implementation, knows damn well what is going on over there. If he doesn't, I'd then say that his post can be categorized as reckless and ignorant. His choice.
On the positivie side, Chinese women are going to have a lot of fun in the future, each of them will have three-four suitors to choose from.
There's no such thing as "reproductive rights" when the planet is overloaded. There's only such a thing as reproductive responsibility. (Tell that to Octo-mom.) One child - not one son - per couple is enough.
It's irrelevant that there are 1.2 billion people living in excess - that number must be reduced too. What is relevant is that, given the chance, the other 5.8 billion want to live just like it. There are too many people.
To talk about "reproductive rights" on an overpopulated planet is like talking about "borrowing rights" for a bankrupt.
You may say that the problem is with the rich world, not the poor. While the former is true, the latter is not. Stop all food shipments to China, India, Africa, the Middle East, and you will quickly realize that RELATIVE TO THE CARRYING CAPACITY of their immediate ecologic zone, those places are WAY overburdened by human reproduction. Without globalization, there would be mass starvation in many parts of the planet. But then, globalization is also to blame for it getting to this point.
I've got news for you, one child per couple would spell the end of the human race. That's a great plan. As for your globalization observations, sounds like you are in a chicken/egg quandary. Regardless of how you want to slice it, inequalities of wealth and education will be the end of the human race. It might have been serviceable in the days of Kings but those days are over.
Lastly, anyone eyeballing or dismissing reproductive rights is really a right wing tyrant. Feel free to explain the difference to me between a man who wants to force a woman to not have an abortion from a man who wants to force a woman to have an abortion.
Lefty, as someone who has routinely argued against gratuitous mention of overpopulation in the middle of discussions on climate change or other environmental problems, I have to say this:
"One child per couple" would NOT spell the end of the human race, although it might introduce some imbalances especially when the male:female ratio gets skewed for whatever reason(s): both natural and man-made. It's only a step down from "two children per couple" which is about the "replacement rate" to hold the population steady.
I am somewhat convinced that "one child per couple" is a necessary corrective measure that should be undertaken by all people, preferably voluntarily, with the understanding that we are all in this together. I think the current number of humans is not a result of natural growth of population. So many factors have combined to bring about this rapid jump in human population, with disastrous consequences to the rest of the natural world.
Where I differ from many people pushing this "overpopulation" ad nauseam is that I lay my emphasis on reducing our consumption to fairer levels, and pronto. I sress repeatedly: that any major reduction in human population through natural means - that is, without large-scale killing (culling), spread of disease, hunger, famine and wars, is going to take several generations to come about. So the humane and decent thing to do in the meantime would be to share the available resources equitably. Anyone in a hurry to see major reduction in human population so as to solve the climate change problem MUST start by reducing the population of the rich countries. And then move to other countries, and once again, start reducing the population of the rich people there. That way, maximum effect can be achieved with minimum culling. If they don't have the stomach for it, they should then just shut up and NOT mention overpopulation unless they are personally willing to reduce their consumption and ecological footprint to a fair level, on a global basis.
Force should be ruled out. But I am all for the dissemination of information on a massive scale as to why this is a critical issue that must be faced by all the people. Religious groups that try to interfere in birth control must be told to get lost. Certain states in India have started giving special privileges to the girl children as they recognize that one of the reasons that poor people go in for many children is so they can have a boy or boys. Along with incentives, I'm not sure why we cannot debate disincentives - such as priority in school admissions to the first child. But any legislative measure should be preceded by extensive and open debate, so that it is truly a people's collective decision, so that all implications are understood.
Most importantly, I would like to see population discussed as a separate issue, and not get thrown into the middle of any and every news story.
Hi Alcyon,
This whole business of legislating family size stinks at its core. I agree that short term, one child per family would not end the human race. Long term, it certainly would put us in peril. What I find alarming about these comments is that people are advocating forceful solutions to problems that don't require force. Based on population statistics I have looked at, educated and modestly wealthy populations will voluntarily decrease in size. If you look at Europe and the US, they are experiencing negative population growth when you subtract immigration. World poverty is the driving force behind population growth. The solution is as plain as the noses on our faces. This global corporate economic system doesn't want to have anything to do with the solution. I don't know how to put this in simpler terms.
Lefty, I agree with much of what you say - especially the linkage between relative levels of affluence and family size. However, there is still the factor of certain organized religious groups interfering in birth control. So, at the very least, THAT should be banned. I know "banning" any kind of preaching is not possible, short of invoking some draconian steps, but such preaching should be countered with logic and facts. I agree legislating family size has all kinds of implications. Perhaps the carbon footprint of nations and ecological footprint of nations and individuals MUST be legislated first. Maybe we are putting the cart before the horse.
I have lost all hope in modern, corporate fascist rule of law. We are past the point of legislating. Laws have become nothing more than rubber stamps of approval on corporate criminal activity. I think the only paths before us are two fold. One, do our best at a personal level to reduce our fossil fuel consumption and maximize our use of green energy alternatives. Two, prepare ourselves for educating the fossil fuel industry on the true costs of burning and then impart those costs onto the industry.
As for global poverty, I feel that this global capitalist system of inequality and exploitation needs to be dismantled. That is the only hope.
Lefty:
It is interesting that the paths that you see available to us don't include the ONLY avenue that has ever made the capitalist class change its nasty behavior: (organized) mass movements. The fossil fuel industry will not take to being "educated" and they have been externalizing the "true costs" of production since the dawn of capitalism. Personal lifestyle changes will have no meaningful affect on what are systemic problems (inherent to capitalism) of compound growth, short-term gain and profit maximization, not to mention the boom-bust cycle, that are driving the criminal activity of resource wars, pollution, economic injustice - all driving global warming. I think that your handle of "Lefty" is inappropriate; you should call yourself a centrist. Like the policies of a centrist , the "paths" you advocate won't change anything.
Hi Tom,
Educating, imparting costs and dismantling can take on many forms. I have tried to point out to posters on this board many times that the leaders of this corporate fascist system will never give up the levers of power voluntarily. Furthermore, I feel that all avenues of peaceful reform have been shut down. The fossil fuel industry is going to find itself in serious arrears in the next 10 years as the Arctic becomes ice free and glaciers world wide disappear. Human life is no concern of theirs. They value treasure and property above everything else. Therein lies the solution to the problem. Courage won't be an option.
Lefty, with all due respect you're not really saying anything in your post. The basic issues we are dealing haven't changed since 1848. Your ideas are contradictory; they aren't grounded in a theory that is internally consistent.
How are my ideas contradictory Tom? I'll need more in order to rebut your allegation.
I don't know about contradiction, but the comment about dismantling the global capitalist system sure sounds strange. Capitalism seems to work a lot better than any other alternative we have seen thus far. It has problems, and thus it has to be regulated by a socially-minded government. In other words, capitalism has to be used as a trained dog to perform what its owner, humanity, wants it to do. It's easy to propose dismantling it, but I wonder, what is your proposed alternative?
>>Capitalism seems to work a lot better than any other alternative we have seen thus far.
If you think half the world's population living on two dollars a day or less is "working", then I don't know what to say. One billion are starving. Due to excessive disparities in wealth and education, our population will hit seven billion in short order. Corporate interests work mightily to maintain a fossil fuel energy system that is literally choking the planet to death.
What is the solution? Socialism. Do you think our interstate highway system is a capitalist invention? How about our public schools? Government regulation of industry? That said, we are currently in the process of rolling back any gains we made in the previous century. Unbridled capitalism at its core is the business of extracting profit for one's own benefit, regardless of the costs to anyone else. Good government is key to our survival at this point and good government means socialism. I hope this helps.
Inequalities between humans go as far back as we have written history. It is not a new phenomenon.
I am not talking about abortion.
I am talking about humanity using some of those brains we have been endowed with, and not just thinking with their penises and vaginas. Unless humans start self-limiting their reproductive rates, I guarantee you, the planet will do it for humanity, perhaps withing the next generation or two, and it won't be pretty.
You think anyone speaking against 'reproductive rights' is a tyrant? Are you for real? I think anyone who insists on having more than one child is actively contributing to the elimination of the species and the destruction of the biosphere. Anyone choosing to make two or more children cannot undo the ecological damage of that cat by 'recycling' or whatever secondary gesture.
The choice of a second+ child is the worst environmentally destructive choice the average person can make.
Two children, born in the USA, use up more resources than a whole family in a poor country. One person who regularly flies in airplanes for business or vacations uses up more resources than a whole extended family in Calcutta.
I agree with the population control advocates here, but we must keep this in perspective.
Hi Jonathan and Revenge Girl,
If you look at the ideological spectrum, the axis of authoritarianism runs between left and right. I am on the anarchist end and it appears a number of progressives here are on the communist end. I'll pose the question again. At its core, what exactly is the difference between a guy who would force a woman to not have an abortion and a guy who would force a woman to have an abortion? They are ideological kissing cousins. My leftist brand of ideology is all about respecting my fellow humans. That respect isn't translated into laws that unnecessarily force people into certain behaviors. Unnecessarily is a key qualifier in that statement. I am obviously having a problem communicating this key point: modestly wealthy and educated societies will voluntarily stabilize in terms of population growth. In fact, they will decrease. Look at the population statistics of the developed world if you doubt this fact. Given that reality, doesn't it make sense to insure that all people are paid decent, living wages for the work that they do? Doesn't it make sense to regulate corporate behavior that places greed before people? Is this not a superior way of addressing this issue as opposed to continuing this cycle of poverty and exploitation and then employing baby police as a coercive solution to the problems created by poverty and exploitation?
I wonder, where does the one child per couple is enough come from? Mathematically, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, because it leads to a population full of old people who lack the numbers of young people needed to work and take care of them.
I can use my imagination, and then think of some solutions to the problems you cause with the one child policy. For example, we could use euthanasia, and kill everybody when they reach a suitable age, say 45 years old. Or we could dream a science fiction dream, and imagine we will build robots to take care of old people. Or they could be placed in tubs full of nutrients and be used to generate electricity?
On the other hand, we could try to encourage war, and change current practice to make sure only those over 45 are drafted and sent to fight. That would take care of the problem a little bit, especially if we save money by making them fight with swords and maces - we could save a lot of money if we don't let them fight using fancy expensive weapons. Women, of course, would have to fight as well, they can use smaller swords and maces, but their weapons could be poisoned to give them an added advantage.
As you can see, all of this is showing your proposal doesn't make much sense. The solution is for the birth rate to find its natural balance. Experience shows it drops when people no longer feel pressure to have a lot of children to take care of them in their old age, and when women are educated and learn to say no. The problem then becomes one of too low a birth rate. So in Europe we may have to start giving bonuses to married couples to have one extra child, to make sure we don't disappear.
Wow, I totally agree with you 100%
Just so you know I consider myself on a bit to the right and your name is lefty and if we both agree on something, I feel like its gotta be true.
I think that as we move towards the future we will see more of 2 distinct attitudes....
1) Is of love and sharing the world together.
2) Is of saving the natural resources we have by getting rid of useless users/consumers.
Wow, I totally agree with you 100%
Just so you know I consider myself on a bit to the right and your name is lefty and if we both agree on something, I feel like its gotta be true.
I think that as we move towards the future we will see more of 2 distinct attitudes....
1) Is of love and sharing the world together.
2) Is of saving the natural resources we have by getting rid of useless users/consumers.
Catch 22. Food exports are destroying local food production, because western countries subsidize their agriculture, dump it in developing countries, and destroy the local economy.
The same people who don't want globalization end up wanting globalization when it comes to the starving. The reality is that population must adjust itself to the carrying-capacity of it's locality. Globalization must stop, both in exploitation as well as in import/export.
Whose fault is it when the local farmers get driven out of business because foreigners are allowed to dump their agricultural products inside the country?
Whose fault is it when the official unemployment rate in the US is 9.5% [unofficially much higher], when the Wal-Marts, Targets, Best Buy's, and all the various importers who ship in things made in foreign lands, instead of selling US-made products, are PACKED with shoppers every day? Americans are destroying their own jobs. And the people of Mozambique (as elsewhere) need to support their local agriculture. If we support non-local, and it eventually bites us, we have nobody to blame but ourselves.
RE: "...we have nobody to blame but ourselves."
Average Americans have no control over agriculture policies designed for (and often written by) Big Ag companies like ADM, Cargill, Monstanto etc. It is they plus Wall Street and their stooges in government that control global food commodities. Why should I or, even you, be "blamed" for that? You rightly criticize the undemocratic and anti-worker nature of global companies like WalMart, yet you blame "ourselves" for policies created undemocratically to benefit transnational corporations to the detriment of not only American working people, but working people everywhere. If in the US we had a highly functioning democracy, the American people could reasonably be held responsible for the actions and policies of their government. But we don't. Democracy has never been more than an illusion in America. The truism of "one dollar one vote" is apt. The more wealthy you are, the more democracy you have. A capitalist democracy is nothing more than democracy for the capitalists. If you need to point the finger of blame, look there.
You misunderstood. I am not blaming the individual American for destroying food production in the developing world. I was making a comparison. In the US, unemployment is rising. Simplistically, because people chose to "save", didn't buy US-made, and went for the lure of the cheaper import... to the point that many products may not be available anymore, on a national level. It takes two for a trade relationship. There are those who import, and there are those who consume. Those who consume need to choose the local or national product, if they want to have that sector of the economy into the future. Even if the US government does not put tariffs on e.g. Chinese made goods, "you" as the consumer have the ultimate choice of whether you buy that product or not. If you buy it, you drive the import engine that destroys US jobs. Likeqise, Mozambique needs to feed itself and not depend on imported food.
You exaggerate the role of consumers and the power of choice within consumerism. You and I are using a computer; yet to my knowledge, no mass produced computers are made in the US. So, we couldn't have bought an US made computer if we wanted to. And, this is true of very many mass-produced consumers goods. In other words, consumer "choice" is an illusion. More importantly, off-shoring the production of all kinds of formerly US made products was not done to provide cheaper products for US consumers, it was done because the US government created policies, that made it more profitable for US companies to ship production to countries like China. Consumer choice had nothing to do with it. Yes, US consumers benefit from Chinese workers who make a tiny fraction of what US workers once made manufacturing some of the same products, but US corporations who have closed their plants in the US to move them to China, for example, benefit (or profit) far, far more.
The answer is to end food subsidies in rich countries. This needs to be done gradually, because too many countries like Mozambique and Haiti depend on the food surplus generated by the said subsidies.
I prefer to see subsidies end gradually, and see prices rise. The higher prices lead to a response, which increases supplies because farming becomes more profitable. And the individual will engage in agriculture if the work is profitable. Otherwise, the alternative is to move to the city slum, and live with the wife serving as a maid, and selling razor blades in a busy intersection.
Therefore, I suggest you become my followers, and chant with enthusiasm for the end of food subsidies in the USA and Europe, and cheer for the rise of food prices, which eventually will lead to much more widespread farming and the food independence of those poorly managed countries like Mozambique.
TOO MANY BABIES -- ROOT CAUSE
My laboring class making too many babies, this the rich say is the root cause of hunger and why we should let starvation and survival of the fittest take care of the problem.
But the laboring class is denied equality in all nations, equal wages for equal hours worked being the only true standard of equality.
For in a thousand ways poverty causes a high birth rate among the laboring class. Surely, and if the laboring were paid equal to the educated middleclass, their birth rate would be equal, virtually all wars and rebellions would come to a screeching halt and a quantum leap toward peace for all would be established.
I have labored most of my life, and have seen large families generally increase poverty. Large families were collectively driving China over the cliff, until the desperate Chinese government instituted the one child policy to reduce family size. Without the one child policy there would be 400 million more Chinese today.
In this overpopulated world, large families are an expression of personal greed, and collective recklessness and stupidity.
Or no access to birth control and food.
You can't accuse an unemployed woman living in a slum in Africa, caring for her family members with AIDS who is forced to have sex to get food "greedy".
Having choice in these matters is often a luxury.
Over 99% of people in the world have a greedy desire to be rich, and with a guilt-free conscience strive always to take all they can take.
China is having deep regrets on their one child per family policy. Factories running on reduced production because their short of help, the elderly without anyone to look after them, just to name a couple.
>>In this overpopulated world, large families are an expression of personal greed, and collective recklessness and stupidity.
Complete nonsense. For a person living on two dollars a day or less, it is an expression of either survival, lack of education or both. Your ignorance is mind numbing.
WHO PAYS?
Who pays? Yes, who pays when a gaggle of liars promote a policy that kills and maims and displaces and ruins the lives of millions of people and that is just in the ongoing excuse called “the war on terror” to steal everything not already taken?
Who pays? This being just one part of a called a “global economy” where some plutocrat in an office with air conditioning sits and sets prices for the very staples that people in far off lands in Africa and South Asia and many other places must pay to keep the profits up for the few at the expense of the many?
Who pays? For the ongoing destruction of land and the ecosystem that the few have purchased or stolen from a local politician, on the take, so that the local poor have no place to grow food stuffs and so, of course, must buy “on the market”?
Who pays? This is global genocide for nothing more than greed and it will go on until karma pays a visit and demands, yes, demands payment from all who would think that the heart and Soul of “the least of them” are there to be a chattel or dead and gone out sight and mind where they will languish in obscurity to the world stage.
Who pays? Is there a time limit, a time when Karma will extract payment? This I know not but the surety is there and payment will be in full. Tony
TONY: You made powerful points in a poetic way. Thank you for doing so. I see it exactly as you do. I just wish the understanding of karma would act pre-emptively as a deterrent so that people could not do such unbelievably awful things to other people, plants, animals, and ecosystems. Sentient life on every level has been transformed into objects. In each case, an artificial man-made system of pricing has come to replace the actual inherent worth of the thing, itself. The entire system reflects anything but a "right to life" ethos; and yet its devotees (or unconscious supporters) will frequently self-identify with that very concept.
The momentum of carnage, blunder, and catastrophic indifference is so intense that I don't think it can turn around. At this point, like a raging fire, I believe it will have to exhaust its own momentum, consumed by what it might have been instead nourished by.
Siouxrose; Thank you. you bring up an interesting point about Karma and that it might be better if one could pay before leaving this planet but it might create more problems and it sure would be complicated: my emotions get all wound up when I write about this with a feeling that there is too much and that the tipping point has been passed. Tony
>>Who pays? Is there a time limit, a time when Karma will extract payment? This I know not but the surety is there and payment will be in full.
Wishful thinking on your part. You hope that invisible forces will somehow extract justice, if not in this world, some other world? While I can sympathize with the idea, it does little to stop the ever growing forces on this planet that are plunging us into the abyss. The four steps to change:
1. Admit the problem exists.
2. Contemplate solutions.
3. Prepare for change.
4. Action.
We can wax poetic on Karma or we can examine the steps above. Let us not kid ourselves, change is difficult and it requires much courage. That said, the alternative of inaction is going to have grave consequences. Have faith in yourself that you can do the right thing and works towards ending this global corporate fascist system that currently plagues the planet.