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Reclaiming the Economy for the People
The governing party faced an awkward dilemma. People were hurting and furious at the government's generous bailouts for banks. But how could the Democrats do something for the folks without upsetting their friends and patrons in the banking industry? Democrats think they found a way. They are enacting a series of measures described as "breakthrough" reform and "unprecedented" defeat for the bankers. Only these achievements are more accurately understood as "reform lite." The house is on fire and Democrats brought a garden hose.
The Democratic Party is changing in some promising ways, but what's impressive is how much it has not changed. Does that sound harsh? I am relying on private judgments from Washington players regarded as the "white hats" on this subject--consumer lobbyists and other public-interest reformers, who for years have labored in frustration to enact laws that would restore equity and honest relationships to the out-of-control financial system. These organizations mostly endorse the Democrats' efforts and celebrate their "victories." But a few minutes of private conversation reveals their doubt and disappointment. "It's a good bill," they will say, then after enumerating the shortcomings add, "It's better than nothing.""This has to be on background, OK?" one of the reformers said. "This crisis brought down the world economy and yet Congress still hasn't passed a bill making sure it doesn't happen again."
Julia Gordon, a lawyer with the Center for Responsible Lending, did not seek anonymity. "We have reached the moment to ask ourselves Rabbi Hillel's question: if not now, when?" Gordon said. "I fear we are letting this crucial moment pass without putting forward-looking rules in place to fundamentally change how mortgages are made and prevent predatory lending. Plus, when we look back at the foreclosure tsunami that devastated so many families, we're going to be ashamed that we did not fix the bankruptcy code to permit mortgage modification. That move alone could have prevented more than a million foreclosures, and while I predict we will revisit the issue in the future, it will be like closing the barn door after the horse has died."
If not now, when? That question ought to haunt the Democratic Party and President Obama, who has been missing in action himself on key issues. Congressional Democrats are responding to this epic conflagration with the same risk-avoidance tactics they learned during many years in minority status. In those days, they could always blame right-wing Republicans for blocking their good intentions. But whom do the Dems blame now that they have the White House and fifty-nine votes in the Senate and a seventy-eight-seat majority in the House? Their standard explanation for not doing more is, "We didn't have the votes." So when might we expect Democrats to achieve more? When they have eighty votes in the Senate?
The party's ideological intentions are being defined with greater clarity in these new circumstances, and so are the President's. It's still early, but the implications are ominous for other issues. If Democrats are reluctant to disturb the power of other major interests, it seems improbable that fundamental change will occur on healthcare, energy conversion or the restoration of work and wages. The problem now is the Democrats, not the Republicans. The party aids and protects its free-roaming entrepreneurial politicians and does not punish those who undermine the party's larger promises. When Republicans were in charge, they enforced party loyalty with Stalinist discipline. Democrats are the party of safe incumbents, weak convictions.
The much-celebrated "Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights" is a fresh example of how the Democratic Party tries to have it both ways--avoiding the tough votes while mollifying the folks. The credit card reform measure imposes new rules on the industry and does away with many of the most outrageous gimmicks bankers use to extract more money from debtors. Banks cannot raise interest rates retroactively on old credit card balances or pile on hidden fees or fail to give advance notice for rate increases. These and other changes are worthy.
The achievement seems less courageous if you know that Congress was largely ratifying the regulatory rules already adopted by the Federal Reserve last year. Or that the legislation gives the industry another nine months to gouge their customers before the new rules go into effect. Or that Visa and MasterCard, Citigroup and JPMorgan Chase are free to raise future interest rates to the sky--without limit. That is the industry's intention, as bank lobbyists reported after the bill was passed.
American Usury
One of the fundamental issues that party managers wished to avoid was the scandal of American usury. Usury is the ancient sin of charging inflated interest rates sure to ruin the borrowers. It is considered immoral by Judaism, Christianity and Islam because usury involves the powerful using their wealth to ensnare weak and defenseless borrowers. The classic usurer offers an impossible choice that debtors cannot easily refuse. If they reject the terms of the loan, they will not be able to pay the rent or buy necessities. If they accept the usurious interest rates, their debts will accumulate until they are bankrupted (at which point the creditors claim their property). No civilized society can endure in such conditions.
Usury used to be illegal in the United States but it was "decriminalized" in 1980--the dawn of financial deregulation. A Democratic president and Congress repealed all interest-rate controls and the federal law prohibiting usury. Thirty years later, American society is permeated with usurious practices--credit cards charging 30 percent and higher, subprime mortgages and other forms of predatory lending, the notorious "payday" loans that charge desperate working people an effective interest rate of 500 percent or more. Businesses, especially smaller firms, are also prey to usury in less direct ways.
Needing credit to survive, they submit to the creditor's demands and are often weakened as a result, shedding workers and services that shrink customers and income.
The straightforward way to stop usury is to enact a hard legal limit on the interest rates creditors can charge borrowers. In the House, several legislators introduced interest-rate caps, but party leaders would not let the issue get a roll call vote. Rep. Maurice Hinchey of New York and co-sponsors proposed an interest-rate cap of 18 percent, the same ceiling enacted years ago for credit unions. "Offering the amendment raised a lot of anxiety on the part of a lot of people," Hinchey said.
"It was withdrawn because it had no possibility of success and it would have put a number of people in a tough situation. We had to back off."
A roll call on usury would have compelled legislators to choose between their constituents and their bankers. Rep. Donna Edwards of Maryland proposed a tougher ceiling on interest rates, but the House rules committee rejected her amendment. "Our constituents are so angry with the banks," she observed, "siding with credit-card companies would not be helpful to me, and I expect that's true in other districts." Bankers are contributors, so this is what members call "a money vote." A consumer lobbyist explained. "Let's face it," he said. "The main reason lots of members get on the House Financial Services Committee is because they want to raise money from the financial industry."
In the Senate, Dick Durbin of Illinois, the majority whip who rounds up votes for the party, introduced his own usury bill--a cap of 36 percent including the non-interest fees and charges. Durbin's bill also empowered state governments to set lower limits. The Consumer Federation of America endorsed it, but the consumer lobbyists asked Durbin not to have a roll call on his measure because it might reveal their weakness.
Nevertheless, the redoubtable Bernie Sanders of Vermont demanded a vote on his bill--an interest-rate cap of 15 percent.
"When banks are charging 30 percent interest rates, they are not making credit available," Sanders said. "They are engaged in loan sharking." Sanders lost, 33 to 60. Twenty-one Democrats voted with the sharks. Senators Carper, Cantwell, Byrd, Bingaman, Bayh, Baucus, Akaka, Warner, Tester, Stabenow, Specter, Shaheen, Pryor, Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Murray, Lincoln, Landrieu, Kaufman, Johnson, Hagan.
The scandal of "payday" lending is being confronted by numerous state legislatures, but the issue stalled out in Congress. The industry pursued a race-based lobbying strategy that targeted black and Hispanic representatives with this pitch--poor people need these loans; don't mess with them. Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois proposed a bill that usurers found acceptable--an interest rate cap of 390 percent.
Standing With the Sharks
Perhaps the most revealing moment for Democratic timidity was the Senate roll call to authorize bankruptcy judges to intervene on home foreclosures and reduce the burden for failing homeowners. If the bankers refused to make a deal, the debtors could take them into bankruptcy court and hope for better terms. This single reform would shift the balance of power modestly from creditors to debtors and save at least 1.5 million families from foreclosure, reformers estimated. The measure passed easily in the House, but was defeated by the Senate.
Bankruptcy reform lost because twelve Democrats joined the Republicans to vote for bankers and against embattled families. Senators Baucus, Bennet, Byrd, Carper, Dorgan, Johnson, Landrieu, Lincoln, Ben Nelson, Pryor, Specter, Tester.
Dick Durbin could not conceal the bitter aftertaste. He told a hometown radio interviewer: "Hard to believe in a time when we're facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created--they are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And frankly, they own the place."
Durbin's disappointment may have included the former Illinois senator whom he had championed for president. Barack Obama took a walk on reform. Last year as a candidate, Obama declined to support the bankruptcy provision for the financial-bailout legislation, but he promised reform groups he would support it if elected. The White House wouldn't let reformers include it in the stimulus package or in Obama's first budget. The White House suggested the issue could proceed as a stand-alone measure (guaranteed to fail). On this important reform, the president stands with the sharks.
The Democratic Party ignores its left-liberal-progressive base with some regularity because it knows it can. Politicians understand they will suffer no consequences afterward. The galaxy of mediating organizations, including organized labor, that surrounds and supports the party may stomp and holler, but they do not attempt any retribution that might alter their relationship with power. Reform organizations will not withdraw their support, either money or rank-and-file voters. Nor will they seek to punish any of the wayward Democrats who regularly vote against them with opposition at the next election. The "white hat" reformers are Washington insiders themselves, with a seat at the table and influence on the substance of the party's agenda. They do not want to put their status at risk. Politicians know this from long experience. So do the reformers.
The warped dynamics of the Democratic Party may have sufficed when the GOP was ascendant and the goal was restoring a Democratic majority. But now the majority party resembles a dysfunctional family, badly in need of outside intervention. I say this with sympathy, having known and admired many of the reform activists for many years. Some of them are suffering from a political version of the Stockholm syndrome. Their good intentions are brutally compromised by identifying with the limited imagination and nerve of the Democratic Party.
In some ways, the politicians are prisoners too--captives of the money politics and the expensive mass-marketing that requires them to raise so much money and thus rely on the moneyed interests. Representatives and senators know how the system works and what they need to do to survive. Now and then, they may try to win one for the folks, but mostly they are resigned to the confinements of the status quo. So long as activist groups will make no attempt to break out of this pattern or penalize incumbents for disloyalty, the party will continue to stiff the faithful.
Moral Awakening
Given all the adversities facing the country, I conclude that meaningful "intervention" is plausible only if it originates with people at large who are more distant from power. I envision the intrusion coming from many "independent formations" free to ignore Washington's insider routines and mobilized by citizens on behalf of their own convictions, their common-sense ideas of what needs to be accomplished. This alternative path is a central theme of my new book, Come Home, America. I describe (somewhat wishfully) how self-directed organizations might develop the power to break through regular politics and overcome the usual barriers.
These groups could function, not as a third party nor as standard "issue" advocates, but as a mixture of these capabilities. They could act like free-roaming guerillas who educate and agitate; like a political party that selectively destabilizes safe-seat incumbents by entering party primaries or running independent challengers; like a representative organization that can demand political relations through direct confrontations or even civil disobedience. This development sounds implausible, I know, especially in Washington. But our crisis demands a more aggressive response from citizens--something that threatens the power of both parties and makes them insecure.
As it happens, a rough facsimile of what I envisioned is arising now in the politics of financial reform. A network of fourteen community organizations, based in cities from Boston to Washington, DC, and across North America, has come together in alliance and intends to force a moral awakening on the narrow thinking of the status quo. These citizens are developing a political-action agenda around one theme--usury--as the efficient expression of the abuses and injustices associated with banking and finance. These are interfaith organizations affiliated with the Industrial Areas Foundation and composed of citizens who are white and black, affluent and working poor, whose local organizations are based in churches and synagogues, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim and others.
Usually, their political action is local and succeeds regularly in building relations with public officials that produce real change in communities. This time, given the crisis, these IAF groups are attempting something they have not done before--building the voice and influence to join the national debate and change its terms. I sat in on one of their organizing meetings near Baltimore and was asked to contribute my views on the shape of the problem.
"Are you ready to be born again? And again? And again? Do you have the imagination? Do you believe it?" The call was from the Rev. Hurmon Hamilton of the Roxbury Presbyterian Church in Boston, and he inspired the 100 or so community leaders. "Faith is the substance of things hoped for," Hamilton declared, "the evidence of things unseen."
Outlawing Usury
The Rev. David Brawley of East Brooklyn Baptist described a preliminary statement of basic principles. "Reasonable interest rates," he said. "In this financial culture, the nation will return to a time-honored, indeed ancient, practice: the law against usury. Financial institutions and mechanisms that participate in this culture will agree to a maximum of 9 percent interest or so. This was the usual state-mandated rate before the repeal."
Brawley described other principles with radical implications. "The lender holds the loan," he explained. "The financial institution that makes a loan holds the loan for its duration. The borrower and lender enter into a long-term relationship that ends when the loan is fully repaid. This is the fundamental starting point for any return to accountability." That statement of principle challenges the market securitization of mortgages that falsely claimed to reduce risk by dispersing it among many investors. The process instead left no one responsible for sound lending and thus multiplied the costs of failure.
Brawley's final principle was perhaps most threatening to the existing order. "The federal government insists on these core characteristics as the criteria for all further bailout funding. Banks that wish to borrow from the government must accept these simple standards [and] provide consumers with an alternative to the current monopoly of financial transactions dominated and still dictated by the same fifty financial institutions that caused the crisis."
In other words, the social standard of usurious practices should define which banks and financial firms are eligible to participate in all forms of government aid and protection. Why should taxpayers finance the usurers who are injuring the society? The government's undiscriminating approach to aiding banks implicates everyone in supporting the usury. So do the banks and brokerages that collect people's savings and channel the money into usurious practices that produce greater returns by ruining more borrowers. The moral standard poses difficult questions for everyone, not just bankers and politicians.
Arnold Graf, national organizer for the IAF, argues that the moral question can lead people to confront a deeper debate about the future. "What is the kind of society we want to have?" Graf asked. "That's really what we want to talk about--transforming the society. We're not going to get transformation form the president and Congress. It can only come from the people themselves."
These IAF organizations expect to try different tactics to spread the message and engage the people with power who make decisions. That means directly confronting elected representatives but also the banking institutions with famous names. The alliance hopes the moral principles will mobilize people of faith but also students and workers and investors. Following the example of the civil rights movement, people of conscience have to find ways to turn up the heat on the established order and discomfort the silent citizens who are passive and indifferent. This effort, Graf assumes, will probably take years, not months. Leaders of the community organizations are aware of the risks. They are attempting a leap into the unknown and they might fail. No one listens, nothing changes. They accept the risk because they too have asked Hillel's question. If not now, when?
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Show AllThe "problem" is that while Democrats hold solid majorities, Progressives do not. My wife went to a somewhat high level strategic meeting recently, expecting to be engaged in discussions on how to harness the new "tools" at her disposal: shifting public attitudes towards activist government, social networking as campaign organization, fundraising less dependent on traditional wealthy donors, etc. Instead, she was treated to what I can only very diplomatically describe as a series of sales pitches by consultants hawking "solutions" from the previous century.
I have nothing against campaign consultants. I used to be one. But they tend toward advocating safe, conservative, non-controversial responses to ANYTHING. This period of our governance requires bold, inventive, and yes controversial thinking, and established consultants look at the 2008 election as an aberration, not a turning point. It is a self-fufilling prophesy: if they can convince enough party leaders, funders and elected officials that nothing really changed about how we "do politics" in this country, they will be able to enable the constriction of policy making to the "Cheney model" (as exampled by the Fossil Fuel moguls gathering in a room by themselves to create future energy policy). We already see this in Sen. Baucus' attempt to discuss Health Care Reform without a Single Payer advocate in sight. We see it in Sec. Geithner's avoiding real and serious regulation of the capital markets.
We cannot allow this "regression to the mean" to continue. We have to create changes that rival the creation of the New Deal and Great Society in audacity and scope. Changes that will invite criticisms of "picking winners and losers" - because doing nothing keeps the same "winners" in place that drove our economy and politics off the cliff.
You are 100% correct, Egalitare, however, nothing will change until the US electorate understands that corporate power is 100 times more destructive to the US working class than any terrorist or terrorist organization.
Unfortunately few Americans are anywhere near that mindset.
You're absolutely correct. Worse yet, is that since corporations control the major news media, the general public will NEVER be informed as to the power and control that corporations have.
ray, corporations and financial 'players' have become, in Reagan's words, an "evil Empire".
We know that the MSM tells us that terrorists are small but global "non-state actors", but the 'corporate finanical Empire" is the BIG and global "non-state actor" terrorist!!
Just as rag-tag terrorist groups are "non-state (bad) actors" who are not accountable to nation-states and countries, so to is the ruling-elite's 'corporate financial Empire' a much more dangerous 'non-state (bad) actor" {ie. a global terrorist organization] ---- but one that can destroy our lives, 'common-wealth', and security with its WMDs of 'debt bombs' (as Warren Buffet calls derivatives).
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
ray, you accurately note that, "nothing will change until the US electorate understands that corporate power is 100 times more destructive to the US working class than any terrorist or terrorist organization."
Corporate & financial power is not only 100 times more destructive ---- but it is an EMPIRE, pure and simple --- and we ignore this EMPIRE at our extreme peril.
Alan MacDonald
Democrats and Republicans - like choosing between syphilis and gonorrhea.
Competing PR firms to land the corporate account.
Left and right pockets of the same pair of pants.
"Democrats and Republicans - like choosing between syphilis and gonorrhea."
Wanderer,
Thanks for the laugh!
"This crisis brought down the world economy and yet Congress still hasn't passed a bill making sure it doesn't happen again".
Happen again ??? The financial crisis that reached meltdown stage during September 2008 has not been resolved, it has merely been stabilized by massive infusions of corporate welfare and more of the same accounting tricks that caused the crisis to begin with.
Not only is Congress failing to prevent a reoccurance, they are enabling the banks to remain out of control, thereby not resolving the current problems, and creating damage that will never be undone.
Sioux Rose
RAY: Watch events for financial perturbations showing up around September 15-19 and the end of October and into November. I see the bottom dropping out unless all these artificial measures hold the power to mask the symptoms.
Finally, some common ground. Now I'm really worried. :')
As John Dewey said: "Government is the shadow of business on society." Changing the government merely adjusts the shadow, it's the substance that must be changed and we as a people are just not up to it. So we get, perhaps not what we deserve, but what we have. Too bad, so sad, good-night all. Death, where is thy sting?
So, if they continue to betray every reason they were elected, how long can they survive not being as bad as the other guy? It is a trap that keeps us from ever seeing the light.
No civilized society can endure in such conditions...the president stands with the sharks.
"But our crisis demands a more aggressive response from citizens--something that threatens the power of both parties and makes them insecure..."
Not gonna happen as long as folks are still enamoured with Obama despite his ongoing deception and still marginalizing progressives as a paltry 1% non-threat despite the consensus of the majority on the issues in alignment with progressives.
Obama is a marketing genius who knows how to push the buttons of the pop culture crowd that is always anxious to buy into the latest novelty. They love their rock-star president.
it does tend to be mindnumbing to see the elected officals always siding with the nwo/controllers/bankers
under the terms of: every dog has his day - i would like to think the taxpayers are due for a good break somewhere around here but it doesn't seem like its going to happen anytime soon
it is alarming to hear the first trumpettings of ben bernanke who just the other day was on the hill testifying that what the country needs to do now is cut back on social spending and supports - the few that do exist
let's see: the bankers run the 13 trillion dollar scam with their boy obama charming us into a state of oratory bliss
instead of going to jail the bankers get re-imbursed all the stolen funds and now they tell the congress that the social assitance recipients are the ones who need to "pay that money back"
single moms, persons with disabilities, and so on
if i have got this right: the people with the most - get the whole enchilada
the people with the least - pay the most
there is something fundamentally wrong with the personality paradigms of these blood sucking bankers
that they have no shame is clear - but forcing seniors and single moms to tighten their belts as they say is both heartless and cruel
god bless the torturing united states
"NO" said Reverend Wright "God DAMN the United States!!" Too bad he wasn't on the ballot instead of Obama.
Sioux Rose
MA G: This is what Newt Gingrich, Grover Norquist, and the Chicago School have been working to enact for 2 decades. Why the surprise?
Obama signaled his intention to do just that in the primaries, when he spoke of "addressing entitlements" - words carefully calculated to inform the Wall Street crooks of his allegiance to their cause, and at the same time to float like an ethereal cloud over the heads of his adoring, mesmerized followers, without settling there for even a moment.
If you want a clear presentation of just exactly what happened to bring about our present economic crisis and exactly where we're heading (VERY IMPORTANT!), check out this video made by "A New Way Forward." You won't hear this on the news!
I've put a copy of it online on my own domain. It has several parts to it and lasts for about a half hour. It's WELL WORTH WATCHING! From this website, you can embed it on your own website by clicking the "embed link" or e-mail it by clicking on the "e-mail" link on the bottom panel. Let's all help to get this important piece out to as many people as possible.
Here's where you can view it:
http://www.fritzva.com/sherrick/Banks.htm
Thanks!
for the people who were paying attention obama let everyone know where his loyalties stood when he advocated the bailout in favor of the jewish bankers who control the federal reserve over the american people the same people who are responsible for the crash of the economy and now we are supposed to believe that these same people like bernanke & geitner are able to fix it. all you have to do is research obamas cabinet and it reads like a who is who of the jewish elite to control world currency
My my family6, you sound a little racey there...but I suppose that after 8 years of Moron Bush Jr. and over ten years of Rightwing Puppy Kickers in office one tends to blame everyone except for the ones who did it.
I suggest you go read this article and get informed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act
whyputaname the people who introduced or better yet the president who signed the bill into law you need to get informed on his back ground and who he represents
As a society, so few understand how our national mindset is so embedded in the deceitfulness of capitalism. To succeed, this is why evil must represent itself as virtue.
Went to huffpo and read a piece by Mike Lux on progressives and obama and injected a comment that said that the words proressive,liberal,the left have all been protituted by the dems and havelost all meaning.The dems talk nice until they get elected and then go with the money guys until the next election then make more promises which they have no intention of keeping and cited obama as an example.Huffpo did not let my comment pass.Has it gone political and cannot criticize obama?Used the words pimp and prostitute.Anyone?Tony
Ha! I just read that column. He is supposed to be the "liason to the progressive community". What a pathetic apologist. I doubt my comments got through either.
On edit: I was thinking what good is it if he can't even hear progressives because their voices are censored, but he is starting to get a spanking. LOL
mustbefree,
I've had my same frustrations with HuffPo (or, shall I say, "FluffPo"). It's a website for party hacks and fans of celebrity gossip. A number of my Obama criticisms -- which have all been free of profanity and embodied a civil tone -- didn't make it through the censor. I've decided to boycott their website. The fewer hits they get, the lower their ad revenues.
I abandoned HuffPo when it turned into Obama campaign headquarters.
But I had my share of comments "disappeared" when I did comment there. Unless something's changed, the censors use an entirely inappropriate standard which might come directly from Arianna's supposedly-abandoned previous conservative stance-- a bogus "Old World" definition of "civility" that believes in censoring remarks that are unkind to their "guests" (the contributors).
The alleged comedian Steve Martin published a truly horrible "humorous" obituary when Saddam Hussein was executed. (I've loathed him ever since.) Anyway, my admittedly scathing response contained the suggestion that if anyone should be hung, it was Martin for making "Cheaper by the Dozen II". The pinhead censors apparently saw this as Rude and vaguely "threatening".
In short, the contributors can offend readers as much as they like, but they should be protected from overly strong negative reactions, even if they're not malicious or unduly profane.
There's a certain tiresome "nice nellyism" certain tiresome liberals still advocate. So I'm not surprised that they'd screen out comments containing the terms you used.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Hey YOS...
I was first drawn to huffpost by the frequent updates & comment boards...
There was one poster about two years ago that was a wealth of knowledge, with a list of fifty links to other articles each time...
He/she was heavily targeted by the zionist & pentagon trolls, frequently flagged, switched handle names several times, until he left altogether... It was all information that I easily found & verified on CD or globalresearch.ca...
I got tired of the ad hominem attacks by trolls on other huffposters, and the incessant hollywood gossip that passes for "news"...
Which I interpret as the intentional dumbing down of what passes for the "left" in this country... All those centrist liberals who wouldn't survive two days in the wilderness without their laptops & cuppacinos... Arianna herself seems more genuine when portrayed by Tracy ullman on "State of the Union"... She is a vain opportunist just like Hillary who cares more about her personal power than those she serves... After one of my uncontroversial posts was unpublished, I decided to wander over to greener pastures, and started to post on CD after Obama's "election ".....
Indeed, the trash-tabloid ambience was another factor that pushed me away from HuffPo.
Visitors are not privy to the editorial standards and strategies on websites like HuffPo, or here for that matter. I suppose to them it's like publishing a newspaper-- the public can read the articles and write letters to the editor, but the publishers are not obliged to be "transparent" about why they publish what they do.
That said, I've wondered whether HuffPo's trash-tabloid format and content is employed on the theory that "they'll come for the superficial infoganda; they'll stay for the political analysis". Or maybe it's just a way to ensure sufficient hits to stay financially solvent.
· Yr Obd't Servant
If not now, when?
Under William Jefferson Obysmal . . . apparently NEVER. Or as the rabbi might also have said: Next year in the poorhouse. How long before Obysmal and the Democrats bring back the debtor's prison? Like the enormous number of undocumented workers, this, too, will be a large pool of cheap, exploitable labor. You won't have to pay them anything. Even better!
Used to be, that those who lie, cheat and steal were called criminals. Now they run the country. Funny huh? Sorry I forgot murder.
..."It was withdrawn because it had no possibility of success and it would have put a number of people in a tough situation. We had to back off." ....
Bullshit and excuses. Had there been a concerted plan by the Administration and Congress to express the need to secure lower APRs and honest banking practices, we would have seen the numbers in the polls register agreement. Had Obama called upon the people to support a true credit card reform bill, people would have lined the streets. Had Obama called for the people to demand banks to drop their usury ways and let the most corrupt collapse, people would have stormed into action. But that's not the case. Obama's favorable numbers in the polls reflect the general goodwill of the people which he squanders every flunking day....
The reality is WE HAVE NO FRIEND's in the WH. Okay? Obama voted in favor of raising the APR to 33% as one of the first bills he voted for as Senator.
It is total BS being fed "reform" with holier than thou rhetoric. The populace doesn't want 33 or 36% caps. We want fair practices. Obama suckered far too many people and this shows best in the way the credit card bill was handled.
It is a fraud. we are being fleeced. And the Obama Administration will pay heavily in 2012 elections....and that's pathetic. Just wait. But you know what? After the way Democratic leadership has handled the banks and credit cards, they have no one to blame but themselves.
You crybaby panty-wetting Naderites just don't give up, do you? The Democrats have a right to compromise and reach out and they're not like the Republicans. Let's wait another year or two and see how the economy, foreign policy, etc ... are doing before wishing the Democrats ill. Even an analyst like Rush Limbaugh wasn't this stupid !
Lol...tickly, tickly tickly, lil trolly. So cute with their sharp lil baby fangs and showing it's claws and all. Hey, whats that smell? Did lil trolly go poopy in his lil flouncy pantaloons again?
Dude, as they say in the UK: "bugger off" already. Although you apparently are not intelligent enough to realize it, your posts make you look real dumb mmm hmmm. Maybe its time ta git you an edjamacation. Now turn off that Fox News on the idiot box and crack open a book. I know it is difficult, but I have confidence you can do it if you try.
The Democrats are just as bad as the republicans, you can wait a life time, that won't change the fact that...nothings going to change, we are a corporate welfare state, end of story. Why don't you go back to your life of surfdom to the empire.
The trouble with the democrats is, they are humans, and they corrupt easy.
Yes, the Damocrats are stupid and ineffective with every one of their goofy programs that will never work and are putting our kids in hock for many years.
Let`s go back to the intelligent, caring, conservative, peaceful Republican dictatorship that was working so well.
For your own information, the Democrats are bringing this upon themselves. While I understand that 4 months has passed so far with 3.5 years to go to see how Obama turns things around, he has already made himself clear and shows no signs of turning around for the better. Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Mark Warner, Evan Bye-bye, Max Baucus, etc ... are working hard as hell to ensure that the Democratic Party goes down in defeat, make that flames, in 2010 and 2012 and they are increasing their chances of succeeding in that self-defeating goal.
Hear! Hear! The Democrats are simply keeping the bed warm until the Republicans come back and kick them out. The milktoast D's have absolutely no concept of the consequences of what they are presently doing. They think that being photographed with their sleeves rolled up will make them appear to be "of the people". By 2012, the majority of Americans will have forgotten what over a generation of Republican rule did to this nation. The Republicans will show up with their heads shaved, bare chested, pumped up on steroids, bodies painted like the warriors in "Braveheart" and get Americans to once again jump to their feet, overcome with patriotic fervor, yelling "Sieg heil!"
Yes, short term memories are a weakness in this country and yet the Democrats are embarrassingly making it too easy.
"Let`s go back to the intelligent, caring, conservative, peaceful Republican dictatorship that was working so well"
Something changed?
Kernelz, loved your comment. By the time I got to you I needed a good laugh.
maxpayne I agree with you 100%. If our MIA President keeps this up and the Democrats in Congress continue selling us out, in three years the public, being seriously broke, will be in a very ugly mood.
William Greider got it exactly right with this definition of the Democrats: Democrats are the party of safe incumbents, weak convictions. But it won't work with our economy going down in flames. At some point the public will realize we're still going in the wrong direction. And God save us, Palin is planning a stealth attack as a populist. We would be better off with a Charlie Crist, some one I wouldn't vote for, but who has shown some integrity. But then, that's what I once thought of Obama. Hard times coming.
I still think we need a Mainstream Party with real populists. Get those social issues out of there (Palin is crawling with them) and stick to our economic problems.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
I hate having to judge too soon but what with the overstuffed stimulus package, bailouts for big corporations industry after industry, more war spending, etc ... even Bush Jr looks like a fiscal conservative in pale comparison much as he would push for the same were he still in office. Then there's Obama, Baucus, and others in the party mishandling the healthcare issue even worse than the way the Clintons and the party did in 1994. While the public needs to be strongly united for single payer, I'm beginning to get sick and tired of Washington for going too far in exploiting our weakness and yet shielding the corporate wrongdoers. As much as I would like to contact my senators and representative, all of the Democrat albeit conservative, I find it just as easy as trying to get any decent communications with my former Republican misrepresentation a decade ago. The only reaching out that seems possible is at the voting booth.
P.S.: I forgot to mention that I still believe that 3.5 years is anyone's guess. It's just that getting a feel for what's likely to happen is making it hard for me to resist judging too soon the more I recheck the details of this year and previous years.
"...their friends and patrons in the banking industry?"
Correction: it should read, "their owners, the banking industry?"
As in, "Frankly, they own the place."
The owned rarely manage to reform their owners.
There is only one group who can be counted on to act in the best interests of the country as a whole, rather than some partial interest: The people.
Empower them and see what happens.
The problem isn't that politicians sellout to the highest bidder, the problem is they sellout to every bidder. If they were only owned by one entity they might be able to get something done. For example, the banking industry wouldn't want money that could be going to pay exorbitant interest rates to be going instead into higher medical/insurance costs. So if the politicians were owned by the banks we might see some progress on universal health care. The defense industry wouldn't care about high interest rates for consumers, they'd only care about the expansion of the defense budget. So defense ownership of the legislative branch might result in banking reform.
So let's leave the current system in place with one small exception: Politicians can only take 'contributions' from one industry. With only one master to serve they might actually be able to accomplish other things for we lesser constituents (the voting ones).
How about...no contributions...with no master to serve, they can serve the group they are lawfully suppose to serve...the people.
How about no publicly acceptable bribes. How about we return to American values like tar and feathering the politicians who sell us out?
Getta loadda THIS, from Reuters: the worthless weasels in DC -- with their travelling food tasters, their lifetime Single Payer, their closets, and their almighty corporate masters -- are giving up on doing anything about the financial mess until after they've screwed up health care, and buried Single Payer forever:
"The change means a delay in adopting reforms for banks, insurers, securities firms, hedge funds and other financial institutions and products. "Senate leadership has indicted that regulatory modernization may not be considered until the fall," the aide said, speaking on condition of anonymity."
Healthcare reform takes priority in Senate: aide
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090609/us/politics_us_financial_regulation_congress
So: who buries whom? It's just. that. simple.
WE need a KING. I'll take the job. Once on the throne I'll do all the right things by fiat and if anyone tries to stop me they'll be sent to the Tower. Worked for Henry the 8th. SEAGLASS the 1st!
"The Democratic Party ignores its left-liberal-progressive base with some regularity because it knows it can."
-evidence of that can be found on this thread. These chumps can read article after article exposing the Democrats for the sellouts that they are and conclude: The Democrats will save us! Vote for Democrats! They are better than Republicans!
No they aren't. They are the same. The difference is that the Democrats have a few progressives for camouflage and PR and the Republicans pander to the Religious Right. Obama has actually escalated the war and increased defense spending by almost 6%. He has shoveled record amounts of money to the very individuals that caused the financial crisis, without strings and before reform is enacted.
But don’t confuse these dunces with the obvious, they will nonetheless be crying in four years: "Quick, the sky is falling! The Republicans are coming! Vote for the Democrats! The Democrats will save us!"