Doctors, Single Payer Activists Arrested
Doctors and other single payer activists were handcuffed and went to jail today speaking up for single payer to be at the table in the Senate finance Committee's roundtable discussion on healthcare access and coverage. In stark contrast, Karen Ignagni, head of the industry lobby group American Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) was escorted into the room like royalty by staff members of the Senate committee. Clearly, the position of the United States Senate is not with the majority of Americans who support a national, public insurance system.
It made me physically ill to see Maryland pediatrician Margaret Flowers cuffed like a criminal and pushed out the door as the Senators waited to begin their staged roundtable discussion. It made me want to scream. It made me proud of them for being bold but ashamed that not one Senator spoke up for their own citizen-protestors and asked that they at least be allowed to speak. But the insistence that the citizens rising in protest be arrested continued from the chair with each incident.
Simply asking to have single payer be included and fully vetted is a crime. Profiting as the for-profit health insurance companies do at the expense of 22,000 American lives every year, however, gets you a run of the table in this healthcare reform discussion. Just ask the Senators who are drafting what this nation's health system will look like - and watch their behavior today - if you want evidence of how your voice will be heard in the process.
The protestors were stoic and respectful but direct. One by one they stood. One by one they asked why single payer reform was not "at the table" of 15 witnesses Senator Max Baucus and his finance Committee gathered to map out what sort of coverage Americans might expect in the Senate reform bill now being crafted.
Sen. Baucus eventually spoke and indicated that he was respectful of those who believe in single payer - as he acknowledged many of his constituents in Montana do - but he made no attempt to explain why no single payer voice has been included in any Senate discussion to date. He urged any others in the audience who might have any designs on speaking up like the protestors did to not do so, and then he moved on to his roundtable discussion.
The press seated comfortably at the press table first looked amused and then puzzled by the procession of protest in the chamber. The C-SPAN cameras fixed on both the Committee's table at the front of the room and the witness table directly across from them could have easily picked up the protests but the network chose to keep their cameras fixed only on Chairman Baucus - though the protestors' words could be heard in the audience. Only two reporters of the 20 or so assembled were curious enough or industrious enough to rise and exit the room to see the arrests being carried out in the hallway.
While neither the Finance Committee or the press allowed their proceedings to be disrupted for very long, the air in the room and the atmosphere had changed -- the giddy and gleeful assembly of industry lobbyists who had been chattering in rapt anticipation of the coming of their carefully chosen witnesses could not deny that some brave and patriotic fellow citizens had just been hauled out for arrest for nothing more than demanding that a point of view held by a majority of patients, nurses, physicians and other healthcare providers be included in the national discussion.
While this Congress may pass something very different than single payer reform, it will not do so without hearing the cries of the people left so openly exposed to personal health and financial ruin by the corrupt system that celebrates only profit. The citizens who stood for the thousands and thousands of dead today will not let this democracy give itself completely over to the big money interests in healthcare. Not without a fight. Not on their lives or yours or mine.
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Kudos to the California Nurses Association and Healthcare Not Warfare campaign! By the way, just why is it you are still Democrats?
This is what you can do NOW: call Senator Baucus's office--number is 202-224-2651.
The first time I called, I got a message saying the office is closed, and to leave a message. Then they gave a phone number for emergencies, which I missed. So I left the message on the tape, and then called back to get the emergency number (healthcare IS an emergency!!!!), This time, the office answered, so I left a message with the person who answers the phone.
CALL NOW!!!
If there are enough calls, maybe we can get their attention.
Also, go here: http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/committee.htm to find the Senators on the committee, and you can contact them.
I called long distance. I was put on hold until I suspected they had no intention of getting around to my call.
They are the masters. We are the slaves. On the one hand they don't want us to forget that. On the other hand, they want us to pretend that nothing is wrong with this system.
1-800-828-0498 Free Call, White House Switchboard.
Simply tell the operator to connect you with any member of congress.
Call as many times as you like.
Thanks. I've been on the phone for the last hour.
Just got off the phone with a nice aide to Sen. Baucus. I let him know that I agree with the views of the activists at the hearing today and respectfully recommended that Sen. Baucus consider taking some of the insurance and pharma lobbying money and "buy some guts" and do what the majority of the American people, physicians and nurses want, which is single payer.
Wouldn't you be more likely to hire employees minus the hassle of paying their health care?
Just another burden off the employer.
This is something I have argued for years. I don't understand why employers are not on-board with single payer. It might be that they fear being labeled "socialist" and god knows thats a blot on your record you can ill afford to have.
Without anarchy there will be no change
Agree -0- but at the moment they still have control over the employee and
are constantly reducing benefits.
"According to all myth, the female - not the male -- gives life"
"The C-SPAN cameras fixed on both the Committee's table at the front of the room and the witness table directly across from them could have easily picked up the protests but the network chose to keep their cameras fixed only on Chairman Baucus - though the protestors' words could be heard in the audience."
The only difference between C-SPAN and outlets like Fox or PBS is commercials. C-SPAN is state-worshiping propaganda just like any other mainstream media outlet.
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Eric Patton
Cincinnati, OH
ebpatton@yahoo.com
C-SPAN must have the same policy that major league sports broadcasting has regarding disruptive activity that interferes with the game; they don't televise the offenders because they think that only rewards and encourages them.
As far as Congress is concerned, there's no distinction between principled activism and dissent and a drunken streaker.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Keeping the cameras on Senator Baucus just rewarded and encouraged his bad behavior that serves to interrupt legitimate debate.
"As far as Congress is concerned, there's no distinction between principled activism and dissent and a drunken streaker."
Exactly. Even MLK or Ghandi would be dismissed by politicians and the media, as just some nutty cranks nowadays.
Of course, they secretly hope that we will someday get so angry that we resort to breaking a few things, then we will be "violent terrorists!" And they can really clamp down.
It's all a completely rigged setup - there is no nonviolent way of winning that I can see, and any kind of armed action would be suicidal to both us and the cause. We are helpless against these vile political filth.
Sioux Rose
I can't help but notice a parallel between the way these conscientious protestors were treated, and the same basic disrespect for those who were against the ILLEGAL, case-fixed-for-war Iraqi invasion, too. And then, too, guns are the holy of holies in this land of too many under thrall to Mars rules, and as a result many deaths result. And road rage is a given with 40,000 or more highway fatalities a year, but courtesy is all too rare. Alcohol is everywhere sold, though it configures in all kinds of violent reactions in too many. But pot, the peace pipe, any talk of peace or including society's members in practices that reflect kindness, compassion, or consideration (in this case health care extended to all) get targeted as UNLAWFUL.
If anyone was reading about these priorities from a different space and time, they would see how INSANE the nation has become, how departed from its own founding ideals and intended government design. Many improvements were made in the l960's & l970's to include more voices at the table; but since the l980's, it's as if those agents bound and determined to consign this nation's citizens (and many others around the world) to a new Dark Age, an era where the condemned must subsist on crumbs and when they become ill from the exposures to Goddess knows how many chemical effluents, have made enormous progress. Washington has become a moral sewer. I remember freak floods there a few years ago that nearly drowned our Constitution and Bill or Rights. It's all washing away the voices of the nature spirits echoed. The representatives turn from genuine justice to conduct the business of state as it rapes the treasury and mistreats citizens. These interlopers are setting themselves up for quite the karmic boomerang. With these items taken in sum, once their full force is felt we are quite likely to see massive citizen unrest. I think the lid is still on because so many are bamboozled into thinking things are better than they are, or are thus convinced they are lucky to have their personal privileges and best not rock the boat (or they will lose those benefits). Something is going to turn over the tables of the moneychangers who have made Wall St their new temple of Mammon. The suffering induced by those with a marked depraved indifference to basic humanism is reverberating like a silent earthquake. The center cannot hold.
Sioux Rose: "...it's as if those agents bound and determined to consign this nation's citizens (and many others around the world) to a new Dark Age..." Like the Pope of Rome, the only place Oligarchies feel safe is in a 12th century feudalism with a locked down, diseased, short-lived, illiterate general population. THAT is what they're creating. Human die-back IS part of their equation ("lucky" to be alive for the 46 years allotted). And yes, I look forward to a time when we are "likely to see massive citizen unrest." The "nice" people (Drs. and Health Professionals) who were arrested today were not shackled, maced, and beaten while forced to sit on the floor to "teach them their place". Not quite ready to fully degrade them yet, buit they will. WE, ordinary folk are a different matter entirely. And of course, nothing stands still. That means the folks who involve themselves in massive citizen unrest will be first degraded and then shot.
I did attempt with people in Health Care, in the Anti-War movement, and Organized Labor to bring about a General Strike-Sick Out for Single Payer Now, EFCA Now, and Out of Iraq/Af/Pak Now. Don't misunderstand. I simply wanted to bring them to the table and let them do their stuff. I'm nobody's "Ace Face".
Ms. Smith and Dave Swanson were both quite polite and patient with my apparent naivety. The boys at ILWU pushed me to the PR guy who told me there was not a snowball's chance in Hell (not his words but the intent). PNHP responded with total silence. Today a couple of them got handcuffed and politely taken away. They can frame the picture for the grand kids. The day grandad was "wild". I wonder their response had one of them been killed and a few others hospitalized with cranial damage? Would their Life Insurance pay off for the deader? Would their Health Insurance pay for blunt instrument trauma incurred in a civil protest and inflicted by officers of the State? Now that would be a claims nightmare, wouldn't it.
The purpose of that sequential event was to unite each of those constituencies for a tripartite goal by shutting down the country on several successive days in mid-week - without giving the animals a target to degrade and kill. Never gonna happen. They won't work together so they hang separately. No single payer ever. No unions ever again. War forever. 12 century feudalistic America. Nothing else to be said. The silence is deafening.
Peace.
I fully share your frustration.
Organized left-activism is completely in shambles or retreated to their "facebook" sites. I keep wondering how bad is it going to have to get before we all can unite and rise up.
The established unions - even the ILWU or UE - hell, even the Wobs (mostly just a historical society) are useless.
Siouxrose: Wise words of things to come.
Once the general public finally realizes we have less "real" representation by the politicians, who cater to the rich and the corporate lobbyists, the sooner they will unite, ready to "storm the Bastille."
Not only road rage, but frustration over money problems and job loses is so pandemic, some folks don't know how to cope with it and are murdering their family members and then taking their own lives.
Several days ago, the San Francisco Chronicle published a list of schools being closed. Education and health care are low on the priority list of these political prostitutes. But for the "Mars" budget, (not the candy company, folks), the sky is the limit.
I told a Protestant minister several weeks ago, that if the great Master Teacher took the whip to the money changers back then, he'd probably let loose with a machine-gun on the Wall Street swindlers and shysters of today, for ALL the harm they have created around the world, not just in the US. I was politely admonished for my remark.
Lamenting on computer is fine, but produces no viable results. Direct action by the citizenry does.
Sioux Rose
While I don't think Jesus would lose it with a machine gun; yet as for the citizen action you crave and encourage, I hardly think our uniformed guards, loyal to Mammon & Mars would hesitate to use such force or tasers. Tough times to seriously protest and assemble given the weaponry amassed to potentially aim at a justifiably upset citizenry.
The created reality is falling apart, cspan, fox, etc. are collapsing with them. we won.
there will be no socialized healthcare, mainstreet is becoming a ghost town, the rhetoric is just whistling through the graveyard. FORTRESS AMERIKKKA is here.
The only question is why is the left and the right SO sad about the passing away of the "middle class"? And not outraged for the women and children of all classes? Why is this fantasy middle group so important?
Everyone knows and has known for a very long time that there is no "middle". Just the top 2% and everyone else, hustling like crazy to stay alive.
We are a third world dystopia, Keep protesting, get arrested, resist, struggle is our art.
Bear in mind,These corporate swine CANNOT be shamed, they will not give up their perceived advantage.
They can only be physically removed, like these protesters.
This is a job for Dawg the bounty hunter.
There is no "Left" or "Right" there are only the Plutocrats. The notion that
Democrats or Republicans actually give the American people a choice is a hoax
an illusion. There is no political opposition and hasn't been for at least 40
years. Has foreign policy, domestic policy, monetary policy or the penal system
really changed over the last 4 decades?? No of course it hasn't. They throw us
bones every once in a while like abortion or some public works pork barrel project
to show one side against and one side for, but they don't mean anything, it's just
theater. The ballot boxes are useless because the politicians are no longer
elected, they are installed. I fear the only solution we may have left is the one the French seized in 1789
Ms Smith,
I will be writing a scathing letter to my two Senators Bond and Mcaskill now that my blood is boiling after hearing about the uncalled for arrest of Dr. Flowers. And I won't be alone. Surprisingly, most of my neighbors, especially the older ones, have been crying for single payer healthcare even if some of them were rabid social conservatives. They are definitely going to be up in arms when they read this article that I am passing to them.
I would strongly urge others to do the same and especially the good folks in Montana who are being misrepresented by a corporatist Baucus.
Thank you...
I cannot believe I saw and felt this today. Brave people should not need to do this.
Donna Smith, American SiCKO
I think the good folks in Montana are catching on that Baucus doesn't represent them. About 90% of his money came from out of state, with the top contributor state being New York. He continues to claim he doesn't sell himself, but mentions that he won't unilaterally disarm, i.e., if he doesn't take the money someone else will. The financial crisis and health care are two peas in a pod.
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Baucus, a top negotiator on the recent $700 billion bailout legislation for the financial industry, received more money from individuals employed by securities and investment firms than any other area, according to the group. Those donors have given him almost $775,000 since he was last re-elected in 2002.
Other top donors are lawyers and law firms, insurance companies and health professionals.
Employees for drug maker Schering-Plough Corp. and New York Life Insurance Co. gave more money to Baucus than employees of any other company. Employees for investment bank Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and financially troubled insurance company American International Group were also top donors.http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2008/10/27/news/local/news05.txt
I hope so. That weasel has served at least 5 terms and I cannot understand what the state has gained from him anyway. I saw his voting record and even on NAFTA and CAFTA where he voted yes, Conrad Burns had at least some decency to vote no against it despite him being the typical corporate Republican. I once looked up Baucus's record in Washington last year and wondered how many Republicans in MT look "liberal" in pale comparison. And where's Jon Tester these days?
Jennifer,
I do admire your enthusiasm for truth, justice, peace and equality, but your "scathing letter" to your two senators (they only deserve small d's) will be filed with my scathing letters and thousands of other scathing letters from our fellow citizens across the land in the same depository...the trash bin. The so-called liberal from Wisconsin, Russ Feingold, was interviewed by Amy Goodman today on her program, 'Democracy Now!' and Russ said he was for single payer, but it isn't going to happen. When Amy questioned him, he said the Senate won't go for it. On another topic about torture, Feingold was very polite regarding the former Vice-Coward, Dick Cheney.
Short of work stoppages and general strikes, in order to get the "change" we want, the Democrats as well as the Republicans, cater to the rich and super-rich.
The Dems throw us a few crumbs once in awhile. If you have audio streaming on your computer, I highly recommend listening to www.kpfa.org, out of Berkeley, Ca. They don't play patsys with the Democrats as some other stations do. And if you can donate any money, they started their spring drive today. Bu if you can't donate, listen anyway. The programs are first-rate, and you'll learn something valuable every day.
Yeah, that it will be filed in the trash bin is true. I'll still see who can be found to replace Bond next year and a good one I would add. If there's one thing I love about Berkeley, CA, it's the home of George Lakoff whose books on framing I strongly admire. On Feingold, I'm beginning to see why he allowed the Swiss cheese Mccain-Feingold CFR to actually pass.
Lakoff is good, but there are other things to like about Berkeley, a very progressive community, as well. When you have time, listen to the station I recommended. I think you'll like it.
Most of my life I was a zealous Democrat, but switched to the Green Party. After awhile, some of us liberal/progressives got tired of the broken campaign promises and changed party affiliations. You have to start somewhere if you want "change" (for the better) and "hope" others may join you.
Listen to a few programs and I'd like to get your take on them.
I have been getting a few good progressive programs to listen to on the radio while sitting through the bloody traffic on the highways. Some sites, I can listen to the audio and video but some other ones are hard to get, probably the company firewall so I'll have to listen at home. I will be happy to relate to them in future discussions. I'd live in Berkeley but with what I'm earning, I'd probably be homeless. I would love to visit Berkeley though sometime this summer.
At very least, send a fax not a letter. The Anthrax restrictions on mail to the US Congress is still in effect.
What's it cost to send a fax? As for the mail restrictions...I wonder where that PB&J sandwitch that I sent to Bush to put on his family went to. Still in a warehouse making Penicillin?
Assuming you have a PC with a phone modem (most come with one installed) and use Windows 98 or later, you simply send the fax from your PC. The only charge is for the long-distance phone call.
While your blood is already boiling, I want to get everyones boiling.There is a story I feel would make tax payers as mad about Health Insurance Executives as they are about Banker bonus's. Dr. William McGuire who was the CEO of United Health Care until he was forced to leave in 2006 because of a scandal involving the backdating of stock options. Were not talking a few bucks here. The options given to Dr. McGuire in 2006 were at one time valued at over $1.7 billion. Yes Billion! The largest amount ever given to anyone anywhere and he still felt the need to cheat. This is just one man in the company. Is anyone worth that much? Business people would say he was worth it because of how much money he made for other stockholders. My reaction is, oh yeah? How much money did the company pass on to stockholders? At a time when Health Insurance Premiums are sky high, where is all this money coming from? Are people's claims being denied, or are they just gouging their customers? There is a story here. Google Dr. William McGuire and go back to the 2006 stories as well as the more recent ones. If people knew about this one incident, they would be as mad as I am.
What really pisses me off about this whole charade is that ever fucking person on that Senate committee has the very best solid gold health care paid for by all of us. Does anyone believe they'd ever turn it down because it's taxpayer supported. The truth is they NEVER would. But, these same hypocrites will go on and on about how it's to expensive for the rest of us.
Impeachment is off the table. Single payer health care is off the table. The only thing that Congress seems to care about is what is under the table.
I hate that damn table.
Joe
Sioux Rose
JCLIENTELLE: Torture is ON the table, as is 2.2 million incarcerated, many over trifles. Lock-down America... each day's events more incredulous that the prior one. Is the necessary critical mass encountering a "bubble" effect too? When IT pops, get out of the way...
Siouxrose:
You got that right!
I am very surprised at the anger and leftist interpretations I hear during chance conversations on the subway, waiting in lines etc. But it is like unharnassed energy - lightning or a raging river. All of the energy is dissipated without moving anything. Things may happen, with organization.
Joe
Here's what's on the table.
1. More bombing out of sweetheart civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and possibly Iraq.
2. More phoney "stimulus" packages filled with Dubya style tax cuts for the wealthy/corporate elite glop with limited funding to repair our broken public infrastructure.
3. More BIG BROTHERING of the country, farming, media and possibly the Internet.
4. More bailouts to Corporate America.
5. Continuing the War on Drugs.
With Democrats like these, who the hell needs the Rethugs ?!?!? That's why I'm angry at them. I won't be surprised if the GOP even campaigns for those frauds !
Well said. For me it all goes back to public financing of campaigns. Without public financing we will keep getting the corporate shills put before us by the DNC and RNC.
As it stands now it is almost impossible for a green, independent or any candidate except Democrat or Republican to run a competitive campaign. We have in Obama another politician who is always so ready to compromise his soul to the corporate master,
Without anarchy there will be no change
I think we need to DECENTRALIZE our protesting and go beyond DC. Maybe if we hit our pols in the districts or at least on the state levels, the chances of them paying attention to their voters would increase. I could be wrong though.
jclientelle: You're "rockin'" Joe! Very funny post! Hey, we need a little humor in these dark days. Thanks!
Jeevee
We have become The United States of Narcissism!!! What will "realistically" get us off this addiction to greed and other forms of self-interest?
Joe...GREAT COMMENT !!!
It used to be said - during the civil rights era - that by filling the jails you could effect change. That making the state incarcerate people would force the state to change the way it did things. Too bad the usa has become a police state that is more than willing to lock up more and more people. Expanding medicare to cover all yanks is a no-brainer, no wonder it's something the congress and house can't understand it.
The treatment of these activists - Baucus shouting "more police!" is not only an assault on the right to healthcare, but it is also an assault on Democracy itself and is vile.
HR 676 was re-introduced on Jan. 26, 2009, and has been referred to the House Natural Resources, House Ways and Means, and House Energy and Commerece Committees. It can be researched at: www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-676. You can find out who sits on those committees, and contact them if you'd like, particularly if they happen to be from you're district. What I don't understand is that if a bill has been introduced in congress, (for the second time-this is a re-introduction)and there is a Presidentially mandated task force looking for solutions to the problem that the bill addresses, how the fuck is it not included in the debate? Where is the outcry from the House. Where is Conyers? He wrote it. Where is Kucinich? He pushed it hard during the 2008 Primary. WTF. Is that legislation just to appease, not meant to pass, or be taken seriously by even the author? It reminds me of the Impeach Bush/Cheney legislation introduced twice by Kucinich. No one took it seriously, and nothing was done, except Kucinich appeared to be the hero of Congress, from my stand point. I really like him as an outspoken congressman. I'd really hate to find out that he, too, is a shill.
I really miss Paul Wellstone.
They killed Paul. Ice on the wings? Didn't effect any other plane. Surprised they didn't use the single crazed gun man we see so often when anyone stands up to the bankers.
Yes, 2 great important posts. now, there are media assholes
defending the atrocicity. How can we send those baststards into ,oblivion!!!
You can bet that is has come down from the White House that single payer is NOT going to get through the Senate and the President is not going to lobby for it. Why?, because it will be labeled "socialist" and when that happens in america you can kiss it goodbye. The public has been brainwashed to have a negative reflex to the word and if the label sticks only the poor, old and sick will plead for it, why hell they don't even need a modern day Joe McCarthy. Remember all that self-reliance speak that was so prevalent not all that long ago? It's part of the same american reflex.
Without anarchy there will be no change
So much for my email to my Senator, who serves on this committee, asking them to please include Single Payer supporters.
Solution: Make a wall map of countries that have universal health care (this now includes Rwanda). Get a set of darts. Throw a dart at the wall map and plan to ask for asylum in whatever country the dart lands on.
You've never been to Rwanda .... I'd toss another dart
Sioux Rose
NMLIB: Reminds me of David Lynch's scene in the original "Twin Peaks" where agent Cooper has a female police officer throw a rock at standing cans as he reads off the names of suspects. Alas, synchronicity, what it sometimes reveals to those with a bit of Zen operating.
This will send your blood pressure to boiling.
Senator Charles Schumer-D, NY has set about to DESTROY the "Public" option from the pending Healthcare legislation.
From the NY Times:
Mr. Schumer said his goal was “a level playing field for competition” between public and private insurers...
The chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus, Democrat of Montana, asked Mr. Schumer to seek a solution. In his response, Mr. Schumer set forth these principles:
* The public plan must be self-sustaining. It should pay claims with money raised from premiums and co-payments. It should not receive tax revenue or appropriations from the government.
* The public plan should pay doctors and hospitals more than what Medicare pays. Medicare rates, set by law and regulation, are often lower than what private insurers pay.
* The government should not compel doctors and hospitals to participate in a public plan just because they participate in Medicare.
*To prevent the government from serving as both “player and umpire,” the officials who manage a public plan should be different from those who regulate the insurance market.
The full and unedited story at:
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5142#more-39730
*** By the time the Senate gets finished the "Public" option of the bill will be absolute garbage worth less than a credit default swap.
Single payer advocates cannot sit back and let the insurance industry continue to push its agenda. I'm ready to get arrested for healthcare - where can I sign up?
You make a great point.
Most people may not have been willing "to get arrested for healthcare" up until now.
Maybe the actions of these brave people today--as well as the response--will change all that.
I think more people would be willing to get involved if there ware a web site or meetup or something to connect them to other like minded people--hopefully in their area.
get_arrested_for_healthcare.org or something like that.
I called Senator Baucus's office and expressed my disgust with his actions today and also voiced my displeasure that he is a whore for the big players against the public single payer plan. i must admit i am angry now and wish i lived in scandinavia. We must continue the fight for single-payer.
1-800-828-0498
1-800-459-1887
1-800-614-2803
1-866-340-2981
These are all FREE calls to the Capitol Switchboard.
Ask the operator to connect you to any member of congress.
Many congress members have voicemail so you can leave a message 24hrs a day.
Call as many times you as like.
Post these numbers on every messageboard you visit and include in all your outgoing e-mail.
Lets begin a discussion about when enough is enough. We have never had the ability to communicate as easily as today. For the time being, stay on the side of peaceful activities.
It is time to water the tree of liberty.
Jefferson
I suggest a day in October. Not too hot, not too cold.
Many years ago, Chicago activists were fighting for improved housing in Chicago. They were taking on Mayor Richard Daley, who refused to listen to any members of the community (sound familiar - single payers).
Saul Alinsky, noted activist and mentor of Obama, organized a piss-in at O'hare Airport - Daley's pride and joy. Men were to position themselves at urinals and take 30 minutes each. All stalls, male and female, were occupied by activists with reading material and lunch - sorry Larry Craig.
When you fly, you often rush from the plane to the toilet...and if they are all occupied....occupeed ?
Just the threat brought Daley to the table
A similar action almost took place in Rochester against Kodak. Activists bought front row tickets for the Rochester Symphony and found "volunteers" who were noted for their ability to pass wind. A new wind section...
Just the threat ....worked
We need similar action - a sick-in with projectile vomiters at the capital,
from the balcony - a true technicolor laugh...
Gastric disturbances at any number of public events ..."If only I had health care, I could take care of this little problem" teeshirts
We must show our disgust in creative ways ...
Power to the people !!!
We need a modern day Martin Luther King, Jr or Gandhi to help lead the health care fight.
As I wrote above, MLK or Gandhi would be dismissed by politicians as just some nutty cranks nowadays. They would be ignored by the media - aside from some ridicule. Consider the example of of how Cindy Shehan was treated by the media. MLK or Gandhi would have recieve the same treatment.
King and Gandhi were simply at the right place in the right time - a time when change was already in the air. Things are very different - and not in a positive way, today.
Come now, had the California Nurses Association had paid baucus 1 million dollars they would have been allowed to speak to singlpe payer.
Remember.
You can have all the Free speech you want if you PAY for it.
"Money talks, bullS#@t walks."
Earlier this evening, I saw Russ Feingold on "Democracy Now" almost squirming at Amy Goodman's pointed questions about single-payer.
Feingold tersely said that it had no chance to get passed in this Congress.
Why not, if We the People clearly support the idea? Amy persisted.
Feingold offered an uncharacteristically lame response, to the effect that many politicians didn't want to risk supporting a major program that might backfire and anger their constituents.
He didn't address the merits, or offer any justification for his emphatic assertion that THIS CONGRESS WILL NEVER ENACT SINGLE-PAYER, PERIOD!
Feingold flatly claimed that he supported single-payer, which is commendable, as far as it goes. But when a supporter of single-payer earnestly declares it DOA, how far DOES it go, exactly?
I think he threw in a standard bogus silver-lining, to the effect that Congress would doubtless cough up health-care legislation-- like a cat coughing up a hairball-- containing features that would PAVE THE WAY for the beginning of the end of the beginning of coming to terms and conquering singlepayerphobia.
I'm paraphrasing broadly, of course. But he did slip in the curious hope that our elected officials failing to grasp the health-care nettle is not only the best We the People can expect, but will ultimately have a win-win outcome.
Thus, he all but admitted that the only, or real, reason single-payer wasn't happening is because Congress is so self-serving and pusillanimous that they'd rather stamp their feet and just say "no", regardless of popular sentiment AND especially the obvious MERITS of that approach.
In short: WE can't have it because THEY don't want it!
And, as Baucus demonstrated, the politicians do not scruple to stick their fingers in their ears and yell, "La, la, la, la! I can't HEAR you!" when confronted with righteous citizen protesters-- until the bouncers come to roust the hecklers.
Some representative republican democracy we got here, huh?
· Yr Obd't Servant
Obedient Servant:
I heard that same program this morning. Squirming around on the Cheney thing too.
Very measured...but then he's a lawyer...
I would call my congress Michele Bachmann, however this would be as effective as farting into the wind. She is always on the side of Big Corporations and extreme groups like Concerned women for America, Eagle Forum and Dr. Dobson's Focus on the Family. She proudly wears her ignorance as she is a warrior for jesus dont ya know.
It's a sad day for America when advocates for universal healthcare are treated like criminals, and torturers and murderers are praised as dedicated public servants acting in good faith, promised protection from prosecution, kept in their positions of trust without accountability, continued on their government salaries and promised generous retirement benefits.
We need a march of the uninsured and the underinsured and the ripped off and insured! We need a million people on the Mall in DC and soon. If we don't get in Obama's face and Congress on this then we'll lose. The Dems. are just as corrupt as the rethugs but the difference is they need us to hold onto their seats. We need a BIG BIG crowd in DC soon or we LOSE this forever.
Come on down to Upper Senate Park in DC next Wednesday afternoon, May 13th, and join about 500 nurses and other healthcare activists to make some noise. We'll march to the park from the Washington Court Hotel at noon. If you are in the area or close enough to get there, we'd love to see you and hear you!
It's National Nurses Week, and we're up for some national nurses' action.
Donna Smith, American SiCKO
A thought just occurred to me that maybe we need to DECENTRALIZE our protesting. What I mean by that is not just in DC but more people need to start protesting in their local districts or even at the state capitals where their protesting will most likely hit some nerves with the House reps and senators. Max Baucus would not have acted the way he did had these protesters had been from his own home state. The more people protest in more places for single payer, the more Washington will be fearful of their constituents and not the monied elites. The reason I say this is that no matter what protesting gets done in DC, it all falls on deaf ears. The NRA got to be successful by taking on the pols not only in Washington but also on local and state levels. Maybe we need a more DECENTRALIZED but united effort if we are going to guarantee ourselves success in fighting for single payer healthcare. This effort worked on efforts against gun control so this kind of effort could work for making single payer the norm.
All we need is one person with the swine flu (real or imagined) to start hacking away in the house or senate chambers.
Then announce that they just got back from Meico
That should clear the chambers.
And are the nurses/technicians in the congressional health facilities union. They should walk out on the privilleged.
I also think we need a millions person march for single payer now. I am disappointed in "the left", with the exception of people outspoken and involved in the single payer issue. I even suspect some are sell-outs or just don't care because their own health policies are among the few cushier ones. Being "left" for them, is only fashion. They don't walk the talk. They figure their stories from the nineteen sixties give them a free pass.
There was a march in washington recently that went through dismally, in part, I think, because they are unable to focus on issues of importance affecting Americans' everyday lives in a very immediate way. Like a National Health Insurance Act. If Congress were forced to listen to Americans on healthcare alone, that would have enormous impact on what they'd have to do in other areas -- like military -- in order to deliver. To get them to move on this issue, we need put aside differences that normally divide us in other areas. Like the military. Just focus on single payer health, people. 65% of Americans want this. With roughly similar percentages across parties, and close to 60% of the medical profession, with much higher percentages within specialties.
If enough of us showed up in Washington, and left the signs concerning Iraq and every other cause behind at home, and could shut their mouths about the Middle East and every other hot button issue that turns many of their fellow Americans off, believe me, Washington would listen to us. And I for one, would pay for a couple of bus tickets to the other side of the country in order to be there. Come out of retirement from the demonstrations that no longer represent me, my children, and my interests.
The protests on Iraq and the Middle East haven't been successful either. I'm beginning to think that protesting in Washington alone isn't enough. For example, Max Baucus knows that none of the protesters are from his home state. However, what if more Montanans had protested all over his state and forced the state Democratic Party to pressure Max Baucus? Chances would then be that Max Baucus would support single payer health care under the fear of his constituents. I often think that we need to DECENTRALIZE our protests precinct by precinct rather than centralize them to DC alone.
My opinion of Max Baucus is down to zero. Why did this individual get up and knowingly distort the statistics on American support for single payer? He's not stupid, he knows it's what most Americans want. That mouthpiece for the insurance industry shouldn't be back in office. He's there to do a job for "somebody" and it's not his constituents.
I don't know if decentralization would bring people in more. Perhaps in major cities around the country, with a focus on Washington.
But definitely leave Iraq and the Middle East out of it. Just single payer health care.
Thank you to every individual there who was arrested for their fellow Americans' healthcare.
SEAGLASS
a march on the capital is probably the only thing that's going to counteract corporate influence, though it didn't stop the invasion of Iraq.
it is so clear at this moment that the American people are disenfranchised. Health insurance is such an important part of the insurance industry revenue stream...
I do greatly admire the stalwarts of the CNA and other activists, but at the same time I am so disgusted by the corruption of the system that I am overcome by a paralyzing sense of futility.
the "representative democracy" is simply not working. It isn't representative of the majority will of the people, and it isn't democratic no matter how it is spun.
So far Obama ain't no FDR. He's a corporate shill. Maybe if things get much worse, his testicles will descend...if he actually has any.
This baccus turd has shown nothing but contempt for the people, even those that elected this scum bag. He certainly used his position for a personal political gain to out and out tell the people that for us, there is no debate, just jail. He better never ever come to my house as I will take it a deadly threat to my life and I will act accordingly. And being a democrat does't give him any points because in my eyes all of congress and the president have proven there is but one party and that is the ELECTORATES. And they are 95% of them treasonous bastards deserving of full penalties of the law.
There needs to be and organization that will come up with the people's 'place holders' so when a committee convenes for discussion, the people's place holders will bump the lobbyist's placeholders out of line and when the committee starts its proceedings the people's place holders will be there instead of the lobbyists.
Lobbyists are all criminals that need to the arrested and tried for bribing an elected official.
Here's a thought: Stop paying your medical bills. I have. It's a form of direct action. Don't wait for politicians to grant you a right to health care. Take it.
How about a round of applause!!!! Take what you can from the system and screw the rest....credit cards, loans, outstanding medical/dental bills.
It's about time we stood up and said, "Enough is enough!"
I'm in a bind right now because I was advised to have a biopsy but am concerned that if I am diagnosed with cancer I won't qualify for health insurance (I'm looking for a job that offers health benefits) or that I'll have to wait 6 mos. for treatment because of a pre-existing condition. Shouldn't I be more concerned about my health? I guarantee you not one person in Congress ever has this dilemma over a family member.
I'm also getting tired of the nonchalant attitude of acquaintances who have health insurance. They constantly tell me, "You need to find a job with health insurance!" Or "You need to get health insurance!" as if it's affordable and jobs offering fully paid benefits are so common.
You shouldn't be worrying about such things. Get the biposy, if the news is cancer or other condition, get the treatments that you can, and pay what you can and if you cannot pay, pay nothing.
Your big problem is that if you do require expnsive treatments, you will be denied the treatments if you don't have insurance - in other words, sentenced to die. Assuming you value your live, the next obvious step would be to get a gun and a supply of ammo, enter your nearest oncology center, and demand treatment or some nurses and doctors will start dying. Consider it a legitimate act of self-defense against people who are effectively killing you. If incidents like this started popping up around the US, maybe Congress would do something.
But we are getting way ahead of things here. Get the Biopsy.
The oligarchy has studied the system minutely. It knows that the people won't revolt if it keeps them in debt to its healthcare insurors and its other corporations, banks and IRS. If people are kept well entertained with its media, sedated with its booze, anxious about their jobs, insecure about their safety, in fear of each other, resigned to their religion, spied upon, raided, jailed, disappeared, and led by its puppet politicians.
It's all going well according to plan.
It's only a matter of time until Big Pharma has Xi shooting citizens in the streets.
Is America's Posse Comitatus or just Comatose?
Write a message on an old shoe and send it to your own Senator's local office.
I think what's next is people will start getting so desperate they'll offer to sell a kidney in exchange for a surgery or medication they can't afford.
Stay the course, it's a worthy cause.
Health-care for all citizens needs to be a social right. And the single-payer option needs to be heard.
http://activism101.ning.org
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This corrupt system does not even give their combat veterans health care--they use every excuse on their books to deny veterans decent care. If you think this same system is going to pony-up to include the average tax-payer--think again.
They only have enough money to maime, kill, and destroy--there's none for constructive purposes like peace, discovery, health care, schools and industry that serves the common good.
Sioux Rose
ONE CAPTAIN JIM: You see it the way I do and I have a "definition" for these off-KILLter values: Mars rules leaving Venus in a deficit. When the great (cosmic) lovers lose their chi, all things fall asunder. We are seeing in bold evidence the priorities that suit an angry warrior who lacks so much as an iota of concern, care, or compassion for his fellow human beings. This sickness is driving the nation... it takes countless shapes and forms, but I believe can be traced back to the off-balanced ideologies fostered by patriarchal belief systems now on steroids, which are also portrayed by literal aging warriors on viagra given the power and unearned respect to set policy. And you well-articulated WHAT those policies are.
There is no doubt, that our Senators and most of Congress are bought and paid for. The people whom should be in handcuffs, led off to jail, are being given billions of dollars to cover their gambling debts. The blood sucking health care profiteers are treated as honored guests.
The corporations are dismissing people for the stock price and forgettting that once you sell an item you never get another return from it. Until we vote the crooks out and get publicly funded campaigns; this is the kind of demecrocy we deserve. Next, they'll be ordering your own love ones in the military, to shoot you for civil disobedience. But they fail to take into consideration who makes up the military; mostly our sons and daughters. The poor, who's families are suffering, ain't going to shoot their ma and pa.
Sioux Rose
LEAKMAN: I hope you are correct in your assertion, however, there are 2 major forces working against your conclusion. One is a famous (for its results) test done by psychology researchers which showed that 80% of persons will "pull the lever" and knowingly torture someone else if an authority figure tells them it is important that they do so. And second, there is a growing emphasis on authoritarian beliefs and behaviors as furthered by fundamentalist churches which have numbers in the 50 million range. Between TV shows and movies pushing the ideas of enemies versus good guys, and too many religious "houses of worship" pushing the idea of holy war/End Times, a lot of people are LOSING what capacity they had to think (with ethics!) for themselves. Scary, scary these purposeful manipulations of the human psyche. Subtle propaganda is a form of soft torture, and it's busily working its way on millions today.
Seriously, phone calls will do squat. It's time for a revolution...I don't know about you, but most of the messages won't ever reach the intended recipient. Anyway, phone calls don't really push their buttons....anymore than emails. We need to just take what we want through sheer numbers and force of appeal and by our votes. How many times have we gone the phone call/email route? Remember before they passed that mindboggling bailout? Those Senators and Congressmen must have gotten 10x what they're getting now and they still didn't budge. They ripped off the taxpayers like never before in the history of humankind.
ducksawce - now that is a truly brilliant set of suggestions.
Not another March!!! But a march to each of the washington monuments, including the white House and peeing on all of them, plus leaving doggy doodoo bags behind, minus the baggie...
Plus doing same at the local offices of all members of the committee, plus one's own senators, and maybe at the offices of the Insurance Companies and Pharmaceuticals...
Now that would really get everybody's attention...
It's a shame that people like Max Baucus are put in the positions they are put in..This is not the change we can believe in as Obama promised.. Baucus is purposely leaving single payer off the table because if it was on the table,it would prove to be the best solution to America's healthcare nightmare..It would also put Baucus's friends in the for profit health insurance business ,out of business.. Dealing with the for profit health insurance companies to solve our healthcare crisis is like dealing with AL Queda to solve our terrorism problem.
The only difference is the health insurance companies are responsible for more deaths and financial ruin to innocent Americans than was ever done by a terrorist organization.. Yet they are allowed to exist and continue to pillage the citizens of this country with the blessings of a government who apparently doesn't give a damn.. Maybe it is time for a revolution..Maybe more people have to show up at these government healthcare reform charades and let their voices be heard above the voices of the special interests..It's unbelievable that people like Max Baucus are still given credibility as servants of the people... NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!
The really scary part of this story is the obstinate refusal of those in charge to even listen to or consider single-payer. For now, they have had their way, but as JFK once observed:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."
This problem of the rationing of healthcare is already a big and serious problem that will only grow as the boomer population reaches retirement age. Human beings are not peaceful by nature and when pushed (or ignored) long enough they will resort to violence. An angry army in the tens of millions with nothing to lose will not go quietly in the night.
Everybody knows who the politicians, punditry, and business leaders who are blocking an honest discussion of this issue and it is only a matter of time before hostages are taken, facilities are destroyed, or other forms of chaos will occur not allowing "business as usual" to continue.
Poet
One more demonstration of how corrupt the Senate, which calls itself, "the greatest deliberative body of legislators in the world" (Arelen Specter)is. There is not a body of legislators more sold out and indebted to special interests in the world. The beginnings of a true reform would be a new constitution that eliminates the Senate. Its a bad bunch of individuals but more than that its a bad idea for a democracy which really wants to represent people's not corporate interest.
Yes, but the real demon is the money corrupting our politics.
"Every dictator plans to rear, raise, feed, and train his fellow men as the breeder does his cattle. His aim is not to make the people happy but to bring them into a condition which renders him, the dictator, happy. He wants to domesticate them, to give them cattle status. The cattle breeder also is a benevolent despot." - Ludwig von Mises
"The first truth is that the liberty of democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism-ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Oops!
Unfortunately, we also have to face the fact that there is a substantial part of the US population - possibly a majority, that either:
1. have never heard the phrase "Single Payer healthcare",
2. are smugly comfortable with their own job-provided plans, and so really don't care about the less fortunate - Obama has expressed this himself in so many words; or,
3. are completely indoctrinated with the nonsense scare story, of "socialized medicine"
- or are all of the above.
The majority of the supposedly educated, "professional" engineers in my work place usually fall under all three of the above categories.
The thing that is missing in the US that is present in every other civilized nation, that is necessary if we are ever going to suceed on this effort, is compassion for the less fortunate, and a sense of "I might be in that person's shoes someday". This is especially missing among it's much fawned-over, smug, contemptable, suburban, "middle class".
RE: Leftist, May 6th 2009
I just joined the commondreams website today and I've read a number of blogs on this website. I feel like a "fish-out-of-water" here. I do not consider myself on the left. Blogging is not really my thing, but I chose to put my thoughts out there via your blog because your #1 struck a chord with me.
It's true, until today, I had no idea what "singletaxpayer" meant. It sounds like a very practical model. However, I look at the failure of our government to fire the incompetent people that ignored the "housing bubble" out of personal greed --- that got us into the economic mess we are in now. Medicare may be a perfectly run system. I really don't know. I do know that I don't trust the government to operate a fair, efficient "singletaxpaper" system.
We all have the right to quality healthcare. I believe we need to be promoting wellness --- being proactive. We need a system whose top priority is keeping people healthy.
I recently read about a positive approach to healthcare. A hospital here in the US is guaranteeing their services! A novel approach and one example of how we are capable of helping ourselves without the government having to take over.
A google search indicates that this action was not mentioned in a single mainstream news outlet. Totally memory-holed.
This story has been bothering me more and more since I first read it yesterday. It just boggles my mind, though by now I suppose it shouldn't, that NOT ONE representative voice was allowed for the single-payer, medicare-for-all, publicly-insured plans, that have more than 70% support from the public, and that at what was billed to be but a Senate exploratory "roundtable" on health care "reform" packages!!! The Democrats have truly become every bit as Stalinist as the Republicans. [Make sure you watch the you-tube videos on this one!] All the Senate participants, and their insurance-industry packed audience, just pretended there were simply no other options available than more of the same corporate fleecing of citizens that we have now -- the most expensive system in the world by far! And then when the demonstrators, including many respected physicians and nurses, attempted to protest the phony-ass proceedings, -- one truly can't help but think of the Stalinist "show trials" of 1930s when watching them -- the Senators, under "chairman" Baucus, had them all handcuffed and hauled away by the Senate cops!! So much for either party caring in the slightest about the most basic principles of democracy, or even the pretense, thereof!! Good Lord, how hard could it have been for the committee to at least allow a representative or two of the Single-Payer idea a few minutes of time to speak within all the hours they had set aside for their "exploratory" hearings? Evidently their bosses in the mega-insurance industry, who are every bit as fraudulent as their associates in the so-called financial industry, simply couldn't allow anyone to bring up the fact that the American people are more than a little tired of paying a 40+% premium to the mega insurance corporations for making health-care far LESS efficient than it is when run by the government under the medicare program we have right now!! Congress has truly become nothing but one big cat-house! At every turn they are concerned only to enrich their corporate pimps, while the American citizens are regarded simply as "Johns" to be fleeced -- except, of course, that real pimps and prostitutes, -- or these days mostly sex-slaves, according to last night's Frontline -- at least have the decency to provide some small "service" before fleecing their marks. It's truly an outrageous moment when even the MAJORITY view, -- which Tocqueville mistakenly thought we had most to fear -- will no longer even be heard, however briefly, much less thoughtful considered, by the people's alleged "representatives"!
THIS STORY SIMPLY MUST BE TOLD AS BROADLY AS POSSIBLE!! [The news blackout on it is almost as big a scandal as the story itself.]
For a Youtube link, and Kevin Zeese's fine comments, go to:
http://www.counterpunch.org/zeese05062009.html
sierra7
My recent Letter-to-editor of local paper here in Sonora, Calif:
"Letter about Single Payer Health Care
Submitted to Union Democrat
Published on line March 25, 2009
President Barack Obama promises health-care reform, but he has taken single-payer health care off the table. Single-payer is the system that removes private insurance companies from the picture; the government pays all the bills, but health-care delivery remains private. People still get their choice of what doctor to go to and what hospital to use. Single-payer reduces the administrative costs and removes the profit that insurance companies add to health-care delivery. Single-payer solutions, however, get almost no space in the debate.
So far only two people have been invited out of the 120 to contribute to the “reform” that has been promised by this administration. The major media has been very reluctant to cover any Single Payer stories.
Coming to mind would be the accusations (like in the financial disaster) of “socialism” or other derogatory descriptions. Most who impugn the prospect of Single Payer and use those types of accusations haven’t a clue what they are talking about and will not spend time to research the subject objectively.
And, of course the hugely profitable corporations, who have made a disastrous commodity out of our societal well being, have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to defeat even a remote idea of Single Payer.
From economics Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz, "I've reluctantly come to the view that it’s the only alternative," to health-care providers themselves, who witness and endure the system's failure firsthand. The newly formed, 150,000-nurses-strong United American Nurses-National Nurses Organizing Committee said: "It is the only health-care-reform proposal that can work.”
Will we join the rest of the civilized world and consider the health of our citizens as, “the wealth of our country”?
We need follow up letters.....
yet again, more arrests in the senate of single-payer folks. Madness.
Do any of the multi-payer folks whom seek real reform believe they can pass laws to amend our broken system without the participation of single-payer folks?
ch> We have 13 brave soldiers, in this movement for a single-payer.
they seek healthcare justice, it's because they care,
these men were arrested, for things he knew was right
may serve time, pay heavy fines, for our wellbeing they fight.
2 Hebrew men arrested, for things they knew were right,
thrown in the fiery furnace, they trusted in God's might,
But God delivered these men, for us can do the same.
have our soldiers acquitted, and bring our heroes to fame.
3 Daniel was arrested, for things he knew was right,
told that he must not pray, he prayed both day and night.
But God delivered Daniel, calmed the lions' mouths,
For us can do the same, and bring us Healthcare-Now.
chorus and 2 verses of a song I wrote for our heroes who were arrested.
I have learned about Marilyn Clement; I am still mourning her death. I have promised I would do everything I could to keep that flame burning bright. We will win single-payer, HR-676.
Last verse, parody to Maxwell Silver Hammer
What can we do, we must remove the insurers and their crimes,
install HR 676 for now it is the time.
with a single-payer healthcare everybody's covered and noone's left behind.
At last healthcare will be our right, oh won't it be so fine.
Hand and hand we'll fight this fight, healthcare will be our right.
Bang bang then our silver hammer falls on insurers heads, bang bang then their wicked practices will one day be all dead.