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A High Price for Looking the Other Way
Retired U.S. Ambassador Charles Dunbar, speaking recently at Kent State University about the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan, observed that "bombing civilians saves (our) soldiers' lives."
Just so: Bombing is cheaper than boots on the ground. Fairly small, safe crews can quickly dispatch numbers that it could take hundreds of ground troops days and casualties to kill.
Indeed, the Global War On Terror (GWOT) itself has been cheaper than diplomacy and treating our neighbors fairly and humanely. It's cheaper in terms of money, not least because the rich, smart and powerful can profit by financing and selling high-tech ordnance and equipment (not only to the United States and friends, but to enemies) The rich and powerful make money by brokering oil, services and mercenaries, and by selling consumer goods with infotainment of war, bombings mayhem, and torture.
The costs of the GWOT and most wars are borne by the poor, ignorant and powerless -- by poor people living in "enemy" territory who pay with their lives, by non-rich Americans, whose children serve in the Armed Forces and who pay with inadequate medical care, underfunded education, crumbling infrastructure and deregulation and privatization of basic community services.
The costs of this war are borne heavily by poor people and ecosystems in South America, Africa and Asia. Residents of our Gulf Coast have suffered "collateral damage" from storms of a planet overheating dangerously for the profit of international corporations.
The rise of terrorism should have given us a clue. Although its major manifestation in the 21st Century has been financed by the biological sport of an oil-rich Saudi family, terrorism isn't primarily a capitalistic venture or driven by profit. Efforts to link it to specific nations, corporations or organized crime have not been successful. It uses cheap materials, improvised technologies and volunteer labor. It further cheapens human life by killing only to spread fear and disorder, not for profit or power
It took the "collateral damage"
of the collapse of our financial markets based on funny-money and vast profits for their managers to wake us up to the perils we face.
To loosely paraphrase Pastor Martin Niemoller: First they came for our votes in Florida, but we didn't speak up, because we thought our votes were counted OK. Then they gave tax cuts to the rich, and sold our nation's surplus to the private sector, but we thought that was OK because they gave us some stimulus money to spend.. When they invaded Iraq and said it would keep us from being nuked, we believed that was, well, OK. When they sent young people who couldn't get jobs or afford college for repeated tours of duty in Iraq, we didn't protest -- they mostly weren't our kids. When they reduced our retirement and health care benefits and charged more for medical care, we didn't speak up, because we were OK and sick people should take responsibility for themselves. When they used torture and took away habeas corpus, most of us thought it couldn't happen to us, so it was OK.
But when they came for our mortgages and the credit we need to buy cars and college degrees and run our businesses, it was not OK. We woke up and realized that 30 years of free-market economics, doctrines of greed, shock and fear, and Command & Control decision-making have got us into a very bad place.
By the time you read this, we may have averted, at least temporarily, a massive collapse of the American economy and the U.S. dollar. But our work is just beginning. We can't keep pouring billions of dollars into the private sector to finance wars and Wall Street.
First we have to make the best choices we can for president/vice president and Congress to rebuild our nation in the great gaping hole left by the Bush administration. Then we must make it plain that we are going to take part in managing a responsible, accountable and democratic government.
A democratic government is like a strong family: people help one another, take care of the young, old and sick, accommodate differences; regulate harmful behaviors. It's where everyone works in the garden, kitchen, workshop or study and comes together at the table, sharing food and arguments, making do with what there is and deciding how to spend or invest surplus.
Democracy is when the whole family agrees on some general boundaries and values, but won't allow doctrine to drive decisions or immutable rules to govern every contingency. It's when we are confident enough in ourselves and in one another to improvise and make things up as we go along in response to the needs of the whole family and community; it's when we have elders we respect and who respect us.
Today we are necessarily a global family, facing major challenges of war/terrorism/genocide, environmental degradation, disease, and. above all, poverty.
So far, the major costs of the folly of war and market fundamentalism are being passed along to poor children: Bombing saves warriors' lives by killing poor children. War makes money for the rich at the expense of poor children's lives. Capitalism bestows wealth and power on the few, at the expense of poor children everywhere, and the young of all species on earth.
Vote carefully. Those in childhood now, and those who will be born in coming generations will pay a steep price for our follies, our economics, our wars.
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Show AllRalph Nader, Cynthia Mckinney, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and independents of the like warned of this all along. If the author, however, thinks that Obama will change the way the US looks the other way, I'm afraid she's wrong. Mccain and Obama will both continue tax cuts for the wealthy/corporate elite and the wars to keep Main Street ignorant as long as possible. It is only when the wealthy and corporate elite find these wars costing more than they'll profit from it that they'll stop. We lower,middle, and working class citizens here in America and around the world must unite and stand up to the wealthy/corporate elite and force them to pay up so that they can feel the pain as they are forced into the poor house. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL !
I predict that after the elections, most progressive citizens will be on board with Obama and supporting him in what they hope will be a change from our current direction. They will be watching, and I hope and pray that at least some of our wishes will be realized. For instance, I think Ruth Bader Ginsberg looks tired and probably wants to quit, and will do so as soon as she knows that a person who believes in the Constitution and rule of law would be appointed in her place.
As the honeymoon winds down, I hope to see Nader, McKinney, Kuchinich, Sheehan and others UNITE and pull together a big popular conference for a new independent electoral party and platform. It is hard, because people honestly disagree on certain things, and have big egos, etc. etc. But I do think we have to believe that there are good people and organizations all over that want to move this country in a different diretion.
Joe
I agree, Joe.
While I have plenty of reservations about Obama, for me, there is no viable alternative at this point. We need to climb this ladder one rung at a time and work to make sure it's headed in the direction we want to go.
As for good people and organizations: I really believe we need to change the mindset that they are "out there" (not your words, but ones I hear all the time). Yes, there are good people and organizations out there, but they are powerless without us, who are also good people and are in here. If we vote and hope and do nothing else, another wasted four years are assured. All of us on CD must finally blog less and move our feet more.
I suggested somethig liek that yesterday, and was pounded by Obama supporters.
I know that it is very popular to be "for Obama". I have family that is very angry at me--as though my vote is going to "turn the tide". He is not against much of the evil that is listed in the article.
Now, if everyone here decided that we didnt have to pick one of two alternatives (there would be just as many people, as those Obama supporters "getting togethr" , woudl there not?), we could actually make some change.
I've thought that way too and in never happens. The machine is still too powerful and people are not going to go against it yet. I used to think that if only I could persuade enough people and enough people would wake up and if only the Greens could get a certain percentage...then we could actually make some change. Well, while we may have made some change, we still have a two party game. One of the two party guys is going to win. I wish it weren't so, but I will wager everything I have against everything you have that either Obama or McCain will win (barring martial law).
Vote your conscience, but I'm voting for Obama. I'm climbing the ladder one rung at a time and I'll take what I can get and go from there.
Just look at what you are saying.
If the "system is too powerful" then we can only change it by supporting the candidate who embodies it? What if the same number of people refused to put up with it anymore?
It is true, everyone has to vote their conscience. I've voted Dem all my life. It really IS tinme for a change.
Peace.
.I respect your intellect , the way you phrase your posts and your right to vote for the candidate of your choice. I do not, however, believe that you can effect change by voting the status quo. I would like to believe that one such as yourself can and does read the words of Barack Obama and note how much they have changed since winning the nomination, how far to the right they have shifted.
I would acknowledge that you think this is what he must do to win the Presidency, but I would puzzle as to why you would think he would then go against the strategy that got him elected by listening to progressive goals for this nation. This has been the pattern that has doomed this nation to an inexorable shift rightward for decades now..
I can see only one way to end the corporate control of this nations governance, by voting for one who is not controlled by said corporations, and that person is certainly not Senator Obama.
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
"I can see only one way to end the corporate control of this nations governance, by voting for one who is not controlled by said corporations, and that person is certainly not Senator Obama."
It may not be Obama, though, I think he has the capacity to help our cause - not perfect it, but help. The perfection of the system comes from us - it's our job. If it takes a revolution, so be it, but it is not the President's job to change the system, it is the citizenry's job.
Again, I respect your right to vote as you may, I just don't think that strategy will move the progressive movement forward at this point. That job is ours.
What exactly do you say is your cause? I am not being "smartass" or confrontational. I just want to know.
Is this a test?
Well, since you asked: I'd start with the Greens' 10 key values. Add to that a recognition that our culture, the one you and I live in (you don't live in the Amazon, do you?), is deeply flawed and must learn from the elder culture and change.
I really prefer not to call it "my" cause, but ours. There are places where just about everyone's "causes" intersect, and I think it's healthier to focus on those intersections instead of where we may be different (and those differences are probably minor). The problem, as I see it, is that the "progressive" community chooses to focus on those minor differences instead of our commonalities. As long as we do this, we will be bit players on the sidelines. Or, maybe this is nothing more than a fashion statement and this is where we really choose to stay.
"All of us on CD must finally blog less and move our feet more". So true, but CD articles and comments help me think to through which path to take. The bloggers here have more patience with discussing issues than most people I know!! Here I can engage in give and take before going out to act or debate in the non-cyber world.
Yesterday I was at a peace table at a big community fair. The table was cluttered with literature about every issue in the world (not my decision) - Iraq, Darfur, police in the community, Palestine and more. The table looked like a pastiche that required a lot of concentration to sort out. How can you say no to literature about the ghetto in Gaza or the tragedy in the Congo? Oddly, the economy, which is directly related to peace, and of immediate interest to those there, was not featured as far as I could see.
It was not clear at all what we were asking people to DO to support peace. The table was filled with complicated issues that cannot be explained in the few moments that people devote while passing by at a festive event. People were friendly, but moved along to buy food and crafts and listen to live music. I am sure the table was soon forgotten.
One thing I now believe - that every time we do something we should have a focus, to ask "the good people out there" to sign a petition, get on a mailing list, buy a postcard and mail it, make a call to a legislator about something specific. We should come out of it with a “PRODUCT” – so many calls, so many signatures, so many signed up for a future event. Some lasting trace that something changed, some step toward activating those who agree but are not activists.
Another thing - within reason and not in a smarmy way - we have to think about marketing. At an event where we put in time and effort, some central message should come out clearly. The level of the message should fit the event. For instance – large message and simple focus at a street fair or march and more in-depth message(s) at a panel discussion.
Joe
I agree.
If Obama is going to "change all this stuff" (FISA the mortgage bailout) why did he vote FOR it in the first place?
He is a part of the legislature. Why didnt he "legislate"? (Or, was he just dropping off his stuff on his way to the presidential run?)
There were those that voted against the FISA Amend. Against the bailout, as it stands. He is the "head of the party" He couldve insisted on Amendments, at the least
To my mind, Obama has chosen sides. Wall St. If youre happy with that, have at it.
Good article. Ralph needs to dropout to help Cynthia/Greens, Ron Paul(no please), & Dennis supports Obama(WAKE UP AMERICA!) I figure McCain is 10% better than Bush Jr. (at least he believes in Global Warming & campaign finance reform) Of course Palin would be even worse than Jr..
Obama would at least end one 'War'(occupation)& progressives could raise hell about getting out of Afganistan too..give health care to 18 million children & at least there would be someone with intelligence in the worlds most powerful office(much less likely to start another War than McCain) The World does not want another Republican President & neither do I.
Where in the world do you get that Obama "would at least end one 'War'(occupation)"? He has said he would try to REDUCE the number of COMBAT troops in Iraq STARTING IN A YEAR AND A HALF. There will still be mercenaries as well as both noncombat and combat troops in Iraq for years to come if Obama has his way. He has not made any commitment to end the US occupation of Iraq, and don't hold your breath waiting for him to. He has also said he plans to escalate the war in Afghanistan, and to increase the insane US military budget.
As they showed in convincing fashion Friday, Obama and the majority of Democratic federal politicians work for corporate America, not (except nominally) for the general public.
Oh brother! For all of you who are complicit in the murders of millions of LIVES in this idiotic war on terror, resource "wars" (occupations) to feed our fossil fuel dependency, our valuing our soldiers' lives and not civilians lives "over there" - people we do not know... Anyone who supports Obama is COMPLICIT and is an accessory to murder. Vote for Nader or McKinney; vote for peace.
This really helps. Thanks so much.
.While intellectually I believe you to be spot on I think you just cost Nader a few votes....;-)
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
I don't see why, then, you would address my posts if you believe me to be complicit in murder because of my vote for Obama. Others accused me of the same for voting for Nader in 2000.
This is the kind of juvenile stuff that paints progressives as the same as right-wing yahoos. I really have to question the intent of someone who would post shit like that.
Where do you see her recommending Obama? She points out that the last 30 years have seen worsening conditions for the poor and working class. That includes 10 years of Democratic presidencies.
I think when she says to vote carefully, she means vote Green. Vote for Cynthia McKinney.
She couldn't possibly mean Obama. He has no intention of treating everyone on Earth as part of the family.
See, this is the problem - we see and hear what we want.
"First we have to make the best choices we can for president/vice president and Congress to rebuild our nation in the great gaping hole left by the Bush administration. Then [we must make it plain that we are going to take part] in managing a responsible, accountable and democratic government." (brackets mine)
She is saying, and what most choose not to see, is that it is OUR responsibility, not those of politicians or bankers or anyone else. If this is supposed to resemble anything remotely like a democracy (democratic republic), then it WE who must work. Voting is just the first step. Hell, voting is just the act of putting our shoes on. It's up to us to do the walking.
This is very true.
But, it seems to me that that is the Obama paradox.
I hear peole say all the time, "I just know in my heart that he will..." or "He is progresive to the core, he';s just hiding it to...".
This is just filling up the holes of what you dont know about a perosn with your own wishes. I hope that Obama will surprise me.
Well, I really haven't heard too many people who think that Obama is THE answer. When I do, I take some sheen off their sparkle by reminding them that the Democratic Party is as corporate as the Reps, and Obama isn't going to change that.
I guess this just comes down to strategies. I've tried the voting my conscience strategy and while I felt cleaner, it didn't help most of my causes.
I really don't know - other than playing the best hand I've been dealt then working my ass off for the world I want to see - what else to do.
P.S. I hope Obama surprises all of us...but I'm not going to sit on my couch, as many Americans will, and hope for it.
wagelaborer sez:
"I think when she says to vote carefully, she means vote Green. Vote for Cynthia McKinney."
I'm sure everyone is convinced that voting carefully will result in the selection of the person they're supporting.
So, of course, she meant you should vote for Obama. :-)
The Chicago School of Economics and Witchcraft strikes again.
This is what I have been saying (although I am an agnostic).
It is (not) amazing to me , that it takes "hitting the rich" and MONEY to actually get the Am. people on their feet. I protested alot of this stuff. But it was lonely out the, I gotta tell ya.
I realize that alot of these things happened after a big "shock". But, disasters like Hurrican Katrina, etc.,while not preceipated by Bush et al, were, nonetheless, made worse by thier non-internvetion.
It is the Shock Doctrine, and we must do everything we can do to stop it.
All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
The poor will take the biggest hit, but, all both candidates can talk about is the "middle class". Well, there are fewer and fewer of them.
Let me understand this. A nation with a consistent history of stupid decisions, piggish consumerism and callous insensitivity to the death and suffering of others has finally come to its senses because we can't get a loan to buy a second car. The pain has transformed our character. We're going to vote carefully (for democrats one supposes) and learn from our mistakes and stop bombing children and exploiting the poor.
We are not going to pay the price for the hundreds of thousands of people we have annihilated or the cultures we have trashed or the resources we have robbed. That economic scare has got us turning over a new leaf. Suddenly we're nice guys and no longer a pack of murdering thieves. Honest, judge, we've found Jesus. Its going to be all right from now on.
If we're going to get all interested in our own redemption I think we ought to start with Charles Manson. He's learned his lesson. We should let him go, dust him off, buy him a new suit and give him another chance.
This is a silly article. We might pull out of this crisis, but if we do we'll revert right back to the same predatory behavior that we started with. Or we might, if karmic inevitability really is a law, find ourselves relocated somewhere down the food chain, making baskets to sell in Chinese supermarkets. But even the long overdue experience of receiving the pain we have inflicted on others is not going to magically turn us into intelligent, compassionate, beautiful people. There is no historical precedent for it.
Well put.
You have to start somewhere, no? Btw, what do you intend to do as a process for change?
Force the acceptance of more than two parties in the uS.
That is a good point, except for the forced part. Anyway, you have my vote.
If need be, I should add.
RichM - There is no obvious action-recipe that follows from the fact that the two parties are both militaristic and serving high finance, "the capitalist elite" as you correctly say. This is not such a new or particularly astute observation, although I admit it has gotten much worse in the last two decades.
The problem is that we have not built up a viable alternative. The electoral choice today is between voting for the most unsatisfactory Obama or the completely impossible Nader or McKinney. What's the "denial" part about that?
We must do some organizing. No immediate solution for this time around.
Joe
Let's not forget that Democrats got the US involved in more wars than Republicans in the 20th century: WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam and several others.
Read Naomi Klein's brilliant article Beware the Chicago boys and you'll see that Obama is just another corrupt Democrat candidate whose primary goal right after taking office will be to stab the poor in the back. Jason Furman, one of Wal-Mart's most vociferous goons, heads Obama's economic team
Democrats love Naomi Klein when she's exposing Bush but ignore her when she's exposing Democrats for what they really are: criminal Wall Street prostitutes, Republican clones.
The same with poor Cindy Sheehan. She was used, abused and exploited by Dems until she had the audacity to expose them for being the Bush co-conspirators that they are. Now she can't even get Dem whore Randi Rhodes on the phone anymore.
People like Randi Rhodes (who I used to admire so much) did not help the cause of the "progressives" wanting to vote for neo-liberal Obama at all. Peopple dont like having choices shoved down their throats. Obama supporters might deny it, but it is actually very painful for someone who has "waited and waited" for the Dems to do the right thing.
I'm not sure the DNC has fully grasped the situation. McCain wil lose , because he is Bush's conjoined twin now. But, that doesnt necessarily translate into broad progressive support for Obama.
The DNC has left me high and dry ,for the last time, folks.
Randi Rhodes is a Dem Party hack, no credibility. She made sure to have Nader on, on her first day on Air America, just so she could humiliate him. Nader was the one who ended up humiliating the media whore and hung up on her face.
She spent this entire past week trashing the bailout but changed the subject quick when her pimp Obama came out in full force for it.
It seems the the Republican party is home to you.
"With the benefit of the lessons of our history we are destined to repeat many otherwise preventable policy mistakes because we believe ourselves to be exceptional.” – Dr. Zimmerman Robert
I am really sick of this crap, too.
I am a member of SP-USA (Socislists), and sought info. from CP-USA. I was very surprised to find that they wer supporting Obama. (SP is not)When I disagreed, I started getting , well, threatening letters from the guy who had been so "friendly" on the phone.
His last email was :"You are either with labor, children, the elderly, the poor, the unions, etc....or you are with the corporate state and McCain".
That is absolutely fucking ridiculous. Why even BE in another party , if you cant even criticize the Dems? Why not just be a Dem? Why question at all? I am sick to death of voting for the sold out Dems.
The time to "get into the streets" , sheeples, is NOW. NOT after someone has secured office. I wish you guys would just say. "Ok. So Obama is not progressive at all. He's just better than Mccain. You have to make you own decision." Sometimes people actually do, but then, it quickly follows, all the things we will be directly responsible for,. if we do not cast our one (probalby uncounted ) vote for Obama. Talk about fear-mongering. He is so far ahead now, why dont you back off?
It is uncalled for, inappropriate and wins elections for NO ONE! What exactly is you r "strategy" here?? Does Obama know about it? Cause it sure as hell isnt helping him!
No offense, but what are Socislists? LMAO!
Party of the wokrers?
sp-usa.org
The socialists are not running anyone for president this time are they? I know on the Communist Party USA they are supporting Obama. Crazy, isn't it?
R I C H _ M,
Very well and suciently stated. Thank you.
Your words demonstrably clarify the
___ purposefully muddled
___ meandering American mind-trap.
We are either going to have to wait for more desperate and disparate reactions of the masses of American people ( for greater degrees of motivation ), or perhaps
___ ¿ Electro-convulsive shock therapy may provide remediation ?
to either those opposed to the collective illusion of deMOCKERYcy ( to allow them to ignore better ),
___ or ___
to those willing to be re-JUMP-started into a participatory democracy
Namaste
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It seems party loyalty has become more important than loyalty to your country. Our elections every 4 years look like the Superbowl. On one side Republicans root for their team, on the other, Democrats root for theirs. Cheerleaders on MSM and the internet blogs provide additional entertainment. Late in a close game, a Hail Mary pass gets thrown (October surprise) by the losing side.
My family are devout Republicans, flag waving patriots. They were anxious for the bail out bill to be passed. I said, WTF, are you guys insane? Why? They said so long it was not passed it served to keep peoples focus on the Economy, which hurts McCain, whom they don't like much, but they love Palin. They figure people will forget all about it next month, and they are right.
Me, I am an American first, despite our warts. At one time I considered myself a Republican, and then jumped ship after Bush became the Decider and looked forward to my new life as a Democrat, the people seemed brighter and recognized the bad things Bush was doing. That did not last long when it became apparent that on the major issues (war, terror, corporate welfare, globalization), they are both aligned, and Democrats have a million excuses for why their guys vote for the same toxic legislation. In other words, it's ok so long as they are doing it.
A vote for either party is a vote against America. Vote out all incumbents, and vote for a 3rd party. A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil.
But as they say, if elections could bring about change, our elite would never allow them, and most Americans are happy with their choice of President, so do not worry, the system is safe. It is a good thing we have built up a great security system to keep us all safe from the scary characters.
The 2 party system has become almost like a religous institution that runs our government. Criticize the religion and you get labelled a heretic (anarchist). Galileo was a scary dude to the Catholic Church.
MiMiCcS October 6th, 2008 4:46 am
"My family are devout Republicans, flag waving patriots. They were anxious for the bail out bill to be passed. I said, WTF, are you guys insane? Why? They said so long it was not passed it served to keep peoples focus on the Economy, which hurts McCain, whom they don't like much, but they love Palin. They figure people will forget all about it next month, and they are right."
I think that depends on whether or not the economy continues to get worse. In my opinion it will, despite or maybe even because of the bailout bill and that will keep it in the forefront of the minds of the general electorate who will suffer disproportionately.
Lobo Gris
Vote 3rd party, get McCain.
What you are witnessing is a huge shift to the left. Bush did one thing. He demonstrated what capitalism and cronyism taken to the extreme would look like. He showed us what greed would do, and he was willing to sell our planet off to make a buck. It became increasingly clear that both parties do the same thing. Democrats just do the same greed business but to a lesser degree. I really got disgusted with Democrats when Pelosi bent over backwards again and again even in the face of vast constituent anger to satisfy greedy corrupt Bush. The only people not preaching about war, handing billions to billionaires were third party people. I truly enjoyed McKinney's response to Obama about the war in Afghanistan. We don't need to be there. We don't need to be killing people. Our military needs to be taken down, and the military industrial complex needs to be retooled to make green products.
B-b-b-b-but they passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act more than 40 years ago!
Then they were the white people's party of racism in the deep south. Their purpose then was to secure a government role in what was happening naturally, college people of many races begining to embrace each other as African Americans pressed their way into formerly segregationist schools. White kids being exposed to black kids then at an age early enough to promote unity. The people won it with protest, the government corrupted it with bureaucracy based on phony principles stolen from the people's demands; while the operation of the bureaucracies was counter anyone's best interest.
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Daniel Vincent Kelley
Saying they're going to solve the problem is how the government gets the money to make the problem as bad as they need it to enforce subjugation.
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Daniel Vincent Kelley
Gosh, I never knew that, except that I did.