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Published on Thursday, September 9, 2010 by The Hill
Florida Pastor Calls Off Quran Burning
A Florida pastor called off plans to burn copies of the Muslim holy book after leaders from all parts of the political spectrum leaned on him to halt his plans.
Pastor Terry Jones of Gainesville, Fla., called off plans to burn copies of the Quran on Saturday to mark the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, he said Thursday.
Jones's decision came after his plans came under heavy criticism from national political and military leaders, who warned that the inflammatory plans would spark violence against U.S. soldiers stationed overseas.
The controversial Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., which has long staged pickets of soldiers' funerals, reportedly has vowed to host its own Quran burning if Jones canceled his.
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REV. BONEHEAD: We're against a radical element of Islam. Even moderate Muslims should be on our side.
TV LADY: No moderate Muslim is going to be on your side when you're burning their holy book. I mean, that just sounds silly.
REV. BONEHEAD: *Long Pause For Reflection* ... It's... of course it's not silly.
How fantastic would it be if *that* depth of analysis was what triggered his change of "mind"!
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Must be the house of SATAN.
Can't you just feel the LOVE they pour out?
I have an idea! Why not take all the prisoners from Guantanamo Bay, and send them to the Westboro Baptist Church? You know... with a big ol' gift card to Home Depot? Let them stop by and pick up fertilizer on the way?
"... he expects the controversial NYC mosque to be moved in exchange."
So, it was an act of extortion. But since there's no more rule of law he will get away with it.
OK, that's it.
I'm definitely voting for the Horse's Ass this fall.
It seems he was given the boot after being caught with his hand in the till.
As a peace actiVist who has been stalked,slandered and called anti patriotic for not standing united in supporting the war, I know wh
at its like to be told that I could be putting troops in harms way by showing the enemy that I believe the war is unjustified.
But when you compare our groups efforts to stop the wars and stop the killing compared to flaming the fire of hate by insult, some how we look like angels trying to do the work of Jesus not put our troops in harms way.
Jesus never had any worldly soldiers. Rome like your Nation had a Senate and worldly soliders. Herod had worldly soldiers. The Religious Leaders of the Temple that sent their worldly soldiers to round up Jesus had soldiers. Jesus said his Kingdom is not of the world of man, this world, so why would he need soldiers.
Said to Pilate he is a King but his Kingdom is not of this world. Said to Pilate if his Kingdom were of this world his servants would fight for him.
Jesus did not have anything to do with the Politics of Rome, Herod, or even the politics of the Religious Leaders of the Temple.
I wonder or almost wonder when he said, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, some 2000 years ago if he knew that while it may look like Caesar is building some really grand swell world all Caesar's world will do eventually is become Hell on Earth?
There are stories from within Tribes that he lived in this land with them long ago. The Mormon's in their book say he lived in this land, too.
If those stories are true that means he left this dimension for the Kingdom at one time in one land and returned in human form ago in this land to another people at another time from the Kingdom.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
When asked if John the Baptist was the return of the Prophet Elijah Jesus said, Yes.
Elijah left this world and the Spirit of Elijah was returned within John. The Spirit of Elijah was within John, but John and Elijah were two different beings. So Elijah lived at one time but was returned from the Kingdom at another time within John.
John the Baptist was John the Baptist but he was also the Prophet Elijah returned.
John of himself did not know he was Elijah returned. John like Jesus did not have anything to do with the politics of Rome. He didn't have anything to with the politics of Herod other than telling Herod to repent his adultery. Herod was a worldly King and had him arrested. Jesus never had anything to do with Herod at all.
John like Jesus didn't have anything to do with the Dictatorial Religious system of Israel. Jesus when he went to a Temple rarely had much of anything good to say to anyone there, nor never had much of anything good to say to the Religious Political factions of Israel.
Jesus did not turn himself, nor God into Big Business, Religion, Religious and Politics, the selling of Religious Trinkets, nor built any Physical Temple filled with the Idolatry of Men, ruled over by men with Titles.
Men of themselves at a later time would turn Jesus and God into big business, Religion, Religion and politics, the selling of religious trinkets, books, tapes, build Physical Temples, fill them with the Idolatry of men, and once again rule over people through the use of men with Titles.
They would also use brainwashing methods of people to swear oaths of loyalty to the Nation State. To try and make things seem as if the Nation State they lived in was ordained by God, or had something to do with God, when it didn't. Jesus never spoke of there being Christian Nations, nor even ever indicated he came to start a new Religion called Christianity.
His original followers that were few called themselves the followers of the The Way.
A fellow at a Native Site was dealing with his inner fears of the destruction of the earth. He said something about Tecumseh. I said these aren't the days of Tecumseh anymore. These are the days of the Banks and Corporations that are the new Caesar's and Pharaoh's upon the earth and that is The Way things are upon the earth now.
He spoke about taking extended camping trips with family. I said extended camping trips are not living like the Tribes used to live 24 hours a day day in and day out year in and year out and that is The Way things are now.
But I said there isn't anything wrong with him going out and camping with family or friends because that's about as good as it may get now.
I told him in the prophecies of the Hopi they state when you see these things happening do not fear them. This is The Way they have always happened upon the earth. Flip is of European heritage. I said the Hopi aren't going anywhere. The Apache aren't going anywhere. The Lakotah aren't going anywhere. The Tribes are going to ride things out, too.
Now I know the Hopi keep what is called a Close Eye on the fulfillment of their prophecies. I may not know every Hopi prophecy but I know most of them, and I know how many of them have been fulfilled. I may not know every Native prophecy but I know most of them, and I know how many have been fulfilled.
I found a Site where I was amazed they found a prophecy of the Israelites that directly relates to the Tribes of this land. They mis-interpreted that prophecy, nor did they have any way of knowing the prophecy of which they spoke has already been fulfilled.
That prophecy though is linked to another prophecy that has already been fulfilled, too, of the prophecy of the Israelites.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
Christ may not have been a politician but many of his acts were political. Even his reaction to the money changers or sticking up for Marie Magdalene.
Christ was for prison reform and for taking care of the sick - and for loving others.
He just told those at the Temple they had turned the Temple into a den of thieves.
He just told them the truth. Your just trying to hustle your brand of politics.
Sticking up for a person, loving, and forgiving them is from the heart it isn't political correctness.
I am not saying in Native Tribal life there wasn't such a thing as frontier type of justice from time to time, but it wasn't anything like your Nation's prison system.
In Native Tribal life if you went onto another Tribes land with ill intent nor invitation you might come under what I can best put in words as frontier justice.
Your just taking your chances in that situation, but there wasn't anything like your Nation's prison system.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
And so, now our President appears to be most moral and just, and our generals in their defense of the Moslem religion make our military look not quit so of the devil.
Almost as if it was a PR stunt put on by the CIA, or by the devil if you believe in that sort of thing.
My first thoughts are always along the line of 'who benefits?' However, even the black ops goons wouldn't be able to stomach this kook. The one who has actually gained the most is the kook its self. The loony fringe no-nothings will fill the coffers of his enterprise and he may even end up as pundit on fox. He surely would fit right in.
Who is "defending" Islam?
No one.
The stance that people who don't support attacks against Islam are supporters of Islam, and in their logic, supporters of terrorism, is a terrible lie.
Radical?
Notice the media doesn't paint him as a "radical" Christian, even as a pastor. In fact, his faith is hardly mentioned; rather just his title of pastor. If he were Muslum, M$M would be labeling him as a "radical" Muslum until your ears fell off.
"Cult leader" might be more appropriate still:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/koran-burner-creepier-you-think
"Crazy cult leader" hits a bit closer.
That is my point. The labeling of many Afghans and Pakistanis fighting the US as radical Muslums has nothing to do with Islam but the media attaches the label anyways.
You under estimate the followings enjoyed by John Hagee, Rod Parsley, and Franklin Graham. For years they have been preaching that Islam is an evil religion that needs to be eradicated. Hagee and Parsley are especially notable for their leadership within the 'Christian Zionist' movement. They all have raised hundreds of millions of dollars to support and endorse the Israeli genocide of Palestinians. Somehow, their particular brand of extremism has escaped scrutiny during this latest episode.
Holier than thou publicity-seeking arsehole still got lots of publicity. He should burn in Hell, alas it also does not exist any more than his ethics.
He's remains just an ugly arsehole.
True, for there is either eternal existence or non-existence, depending on whether your grateful feeling you deserve less, or an ingrate feeling you deserve to be all you can be, to own all you can own and to be a dictator over all who are on land that you own
I criticize the burners of ALL holy books. Actually, make that all books in general. It may be free speech but it is also needlessly insulting.
It's like the Westboro Baptist Church group: I support their right to be nasty and hateful. That being said, if a parent or friend of the deceased comes up and socks one of the Westboro bunch in the mouth then they shouldn't expect any sympathy from me.
The second the words part from their lips they've exercized free speech.
Truth_Forward
WELL SAID!!!
With all rights, you must accept the bad with the good. Free speech does a lot more good then bad. Do we realy want to restrict the bad at the exspence of the good?
Any American that wants the Islamic people to give up their church is crazy, and not a real American. Church is church, the ignorance and simple minds that are showing up across America are so embarrasing !
Also the fact that that reverand is a nut, kills me ...and now he gets to meet the President ? I hope he's not going to be our new spiritual leader ewwee....
What is wrong with this place ? Maybe I don't belong here anymore, because I sure do not fill my days hating people because of their religion. If that were the case, I would start with Christians !
Burning Korans is stupid, but the fate of the Middle East should not depend on what some idiot does in America.
American wouldn't riot if the Bible were burned. No one would die, nor would there be any Fatwah -like statements from any of Falwell's ilk.
Muslims should not take reprisals against Americans for any of this; they are far too sensitive, just like the ones who killed innocents in riots after the Danish cartoonist did his impudent drawing of Allah. Again, the world should not be held hostage to Muslim sensitivities.
They have to realize that their own religion is just like all others in that it is based on belief rather than fact; they should realize that in this day and age that all believers will be teased. As Madonna once sang,"It's a material world".
This comment comes from one who has written pages about Israeli oppression and the need to liberate Palestine from the killers of Count Folke Bernadotte and the sailors on the U.S.S. Liberty.
Islam must remember that in this country, the idiots are free to act out their idiocies and the government constitutionally constraioned from punishing idiots. They must learn that official tolerance does not equate to official approval. They should not expect every culture's taste and tolerance to match their own. That lesson they can learn from us. I doubt that the destruction of Jewish holy books would inflame the Israelis to act any more cruelly than they already do act.
This comment comes from one who has written pages about Israeli oppression and the need to liberate the Palestinians from the killers of Count Folke Bernadotte and the sailors of the U.S.S. Liberty.
Islam must remember that in our country the idiots are free to act and the government constrained to act their idiocies. Maybe they could learn a lesson from that; or, they could realize tat evry culture will not match their own. I doubt even the destruction of the Jewiosh holy books anywhere would inflame Israelis to greater savagery than they already practice.
If a Muslim cleric in florida had a bible burning, he and all involved would be in Gitmo faster than you can say Johnny U (was a rebel).
I don't think so, but I could be wrong. He'd have one hell of a lawsuit if that did happen.
Why not build a museum to display all the body parts brought back by our brave soldiers? Isn't that a much better and lasting display than burning the Koran?
TIME TO LEARN IN HUMILITY -- NOT PREACH IN ARROGANCY
Johnny u
“Islam must remember that in our country…
Maybe they could learn a lesson from that…”
LIGHT
A majority of the world is praying for God to destroy us and our bloody Empire, and comes now above poster to brag about how exceptional we are, and that all those ignorant vengeance filled Moslems need to follow our example.
Truth is, from our genocide of the American Indian, to our hired-killer Israel ethnic cleansing Palestine, we have always been a lawless nation with a most corrupt Constitution, one that creates a make believe government, one that establishes total anarchy run by a rich nobility.
Yesterday a state Supreme Court established that CIA torture is legal because our national security demands it. Add to this what Dictator Obama has done, extrajudicial killings and all, and common horse sense tells us that the very idea of “freedom of religion” is pure corruption from start to finish.
For we have a state religion called, “All men are created equal” when in this world all men are vastly unequal. Especially in ability to earn wealth, which is why we live in a wealth dictatorship run only by those with wealth.
So yes, our government should pull that Florida church into court and let a jury of twelve peers decide if burning the Koran will totally destroy our morality, along with our national security.
When the land was being swiped from the Tribes a Sect called the Seventh Day Adventists gave consideration to your Government being the Beast of Revelation. Many prophetic researchers consider your Nation to be Mystery Babylon that is an utter abomination before God. Or at least a Beast Kingdom. If Vegas offered bets that your Nation is Mystery Babylon I'd bet on that thing.
The fate of Mystery Babylon is already known to both God and Jesus. I always consider that would be paradoxically funny that neither God or Jesus are sitting around waving the Flag of your Nation or worshiping Americans or America. Paradox is a very strange thing. The fate of Mystery Babylon is 100 percent similar to the final Hopi prophecy for this land.
Life is good. What an an experience! It's always best to forgive.
The Apostle John wrote Revelation in the ancient Greek language, actually the Old Testament in all the Synagogues during the days of Christ and all of the New Testament were written in the ancient Greek. And as all Bibles are identical in thought to the Catholic Vulgate Bible, and as it is full of contradictions and confusion put in there to create a fake morality that best protects excessive wealth, to correctly understand Revelation you need to read it in the ancient Greek.
The Beast you mention for example, the name of it is not 666, but instead the number men of men who rule it are six hundred and sixty six. I figure it is a power combine of the 666 most wealthy and powerful men who rule Europe and the US Empire. I figure they are the King of the North, the Moslem nations are the King of the South, and they will have a World War Three that will carry evil to it’s ultimate conclusion. The purpose of this world being to prove the harm in it.
I'd don't actually have to read it in Greek, Hebrew, or the Aramaic language at all to understand the Book of Revelation. What your figuring is what your figuring and you well may be figuring right, and you well may be figuring wrong. I already know the identify of Mystery Babylon and there isn't any figuring about it at all.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
Whoever we are, wherever we're from, we shoulda noticed by now our behaviour is dumb
And if our chances expect to improve it's gonna take a lot more than tryin' to remove the other race or the other whatever from the face of the planet altogether
They call it "The Earth" which is a dumb kinda name but they named it right' cause we behave the same
We are dumb all over
Dumb all over, yes we are, dumb all over, near and far, dumb all over, black'n white, people, we is not wrapped tight
And nerds on the left, nerds on the right
Religious fanatics on the air every night, sayin' the bible tells the story and makes the details sound real gory about what to do if the geeks over there don't believe in the book we got over here
You can't run a race without no feet
And pretty soon there won't be no street for dummies to jog on or doggies to dog on
Religious fanatics can make it all be gone
I mean it won't blow up and disappear, it'll just look ugly for a thousand years
You can't run a country by a book of religon
Not by a heap or a lump or a smidgeon of foolish rules of ancient date, designed to make you all feel great while you fold, spindle and mutilate those unbelievers from a neighbouring state
To arms, to arms
Hooray! That's great, two legs ain't bad
Unless there's a crate they ship the parts to mamma in
For souvenirs, two ears (Get Down)
Not his, not hers but what the hey
The good book says, "It's gotta be that way"
But their book says, "Revenge the crusades"
With whips 'n chains and hand gernades
Two arms, two arms
Have another and another
Our Cod says, "There ain't no other"
Our Cod says, "It's all ok"
Our god says "This is the way"
It says in the book, "Burn and destroy"
And repent and redeem and revenge and deploy and rumble thee forth to the land of the unbelieving scum on the other side
Cause they don't go for what's in the book and that makes'em bad
So verily we must choppeth them up and stompeth them down
Or rent a nice French bomb to poof them out of existence while leaving their real estate just where we need it to use again for temples in which to praise our god, "cause he can really take care of business
And when his humble TV servant with humble white hair and humble glasses and a nice brown suit and maybe a blonde wife who takes phone calls, tells us our god says it's ok to do this stuff, then we gotta do it
Cause if we don't we ain't "Gwine up to hebbin"
Depending on which book you're using at the time
Can't use their's it don't work, it's all lies, gotta use mine
Ain't that right?
That's what they say
Every night, every day
Hey, we can't really be dumb if we're just following god's orders
Well let's get serious, god knows what he's doin'
He wrote this book here and the book says, "He made us all to be just like him"
So, if we're dumb, then god is dumb and maybe even a little ugly on the side
Dumb all over, a little ugly on the side
Dumb all over, a little ugly on the side
Dumb all over, a little ugly on the side
Dumb all over, a little ugly on the side
"Dumb all over" Frank Zappa
I'll guess I'll call off my planned "Burn A Christian For Freedom" He he. Seriously, no Muslim ever called me a kike.
I support these wingnut's right to burn any book they can lay their hands on...as long as the book is legally owned by the people burning them, but I also suggest that if the media did not print all these stupid articles about these racist/bigots, they would go away...better yet, perhaps lay out the rational arguments for why this act will cause more harm than good...instead of fueling the fires with more angry words...
And let me point out that the vast majority of Muslims are not evil. Just like you cannot generalize that most Christians with pickups and rifles are not going to blow up a large government buildings tomorrow, because Nichols and McVeigh did...just because a couple nutcases professing a creed does something, is not reason enough to condemn everyone who shares some trait with them...
ShadowDancer
“There are stories from within Tribes that Christ lived
in this land with them long ago. The Mormon's in their
book say he lived in this land, too.”
According to the New Testament, Christ is God the Son, the one who spoke the words that created the earth. God being the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Christ when he walked this earth was both God and man, after government crucified him he was still God and man, and some say for eternity he will be both God and man.
I already know Jesus. I already know Jesus is the Son of the God, and the world Jesus is doing away with in time is this one. It's over. It is finished. It is done. The work is complete.
I am only on my journey through your insane world that isn't much more than a Death Culture. A culture of destruction upon the earth. The man of European heritage that posted at a Native Site talked about being on extended camping trips with his family.
He talked about some coal plant they may build in California. The smog, air pollution, and such where he lives. The cancer rates.
When he was out in Creator's nature he saw, Life. When he looked back as his own world he saw the truth, Death. Even in Israel some 2000 years ago Jesus was living in the Death Culture of the Europeans that called themselves, Romans, under the Death culture of the rule of Herod, and the Death culture of Israel, and other Nations.
Rome did not arrest Jesus. Herod did not arrest Jesus. It was the agreement of most of the Religious Leaders of the Temple to arrest Jesus. Their authority was such if they had not been conquered by Rome they would not have had to send Jesus to Pilate to convict and put him to death.
Jesus had enough between his own Two Temples not to let the worldly soldiers of the Temple take him to the 3'd Temple to be tried by those Religious Leaders. But that was the will of the Father for him.
I have enough between my own Two Temples not to go to Terry Jone's 3'd Temple. For they will be sitting in the 3'd Temple being taught by Satan. When I attended European schools I was sitting in their 3'd Temple.
Just passing through.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
With each passing day it becomes more and more obvious that religion is worse than useless: it creates conflicts and problems that otherwise wouldn't even exist.
This "debate" about whose god, or whose collection of written myths and poems and tribal biases, is more valid than somebody else's would be downright hilarious in its irrelevancy to the modern world ... if the outcome of those debates wasn't so dang tragic.
Our atheist and slave owner founding fathers put a fake religion in the Preamble, complete with a creator God. What do you propose we do about that?
The founders of your Nation were not necessarily atheists but were Freemasons belonging to the secret society of Freemasons that many researchers consider to be an secret Occult Society. Most all of the thing people in your Nation call, Thought, is actually controlled Occult Thinking from even worshiping their Idolatry of the Washington Monument, their Flag, their Constitution, their politics in any form of disguise. Your Christian Religion that worships after the Beast and the Image of the Beast, all the Freemason Idolatry, thought, and symbols.
The Freemasons in this land were setting up their branch of the New Order of the Ages or ushering in Mystery Babylon. When they were swiping the land of the Tribes a Sect called the Seventh Day Adventists thought your Nation was the Beast of Revelation. Even though they could not stop this thing they were trying to put things in prophetic terms and not be deceived by this world.
Mystery Babylon will fornicate with all the Kings of the Earth. More than likely through the U.N., all their Trade and Political Agreements with other Nations upon the earth.
A part of the Freemason Idolatry and symbols is the One Eye about the Pyramid on the back of your Nation's dollar bill. That symbol is linked to the prophecies of Islam of the Signs Dajjal or the One Eye of Evil. In their prophecies Jesus will cast a spear into the One Eye of Evil to discredit the One Eye of Evil until Jesus eventually returns and does away with the world of the One Eye of Evil. Even in their prophecies they state it will be Jesus who returns to do away with this world.
Creator/God/The All of All already knows all the Idolatry of human beings is not fooled by even the slightest Idolatry of human beings, nor any human vanity upon the earth.
According to prophecy as bad as things may now appear to people they actually get far much worse. Creator the All of All knows of all the Idolatry of human beings, and their vanity upon the earth.
Thus human beings upon the earth will be seeking all manner of vain solutions to the destruction and woes they see coming upon the earth.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
Sadly, it may have been economic considerations that won the day.
His insurance company cancelled his policy on the church and likewise the mortgage on it was called.
OUR STATE RELIGION -- WHY DO YOU WORSHIP IT?
You worship a state religion, as you honor some kind of fiction creator and obey his commands. To wit:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men
are created equal, that they are endowed by their
Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among
these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
Truth is, no one is created equal, as the rich will always have a greater ability to earn wealth, as socialism robs from the rich and creates a state of war, as capitalism robs from Moslems and gives to the Jews and that will always be a state of war.
For this day of life is more then anyone deserves, and this creates you unequal and a slave to everyone else. And this is true morality and it condemns your fiction state religion as a fake morality. For the only true religion is:
“You have read that it was spoken by Moses, ‘Eye for eye,
and tooth for tooth.’ I now say to you, Do not use force to
overcome evil. Instead, whenever you are slapped on the
right cheek you must turn to them also the other. And one
prosecuting you in court, in order the coat of yours to take,
give him also a suit of clothes.” Matthew 5:38
So yes, our government should pull that Florida church into court and let a jury of twelve peers decide if burning the Koran will totally destroy our morality, along with our national security.
I guess the pastor's congregation will have to go back to their usual Satuday activity, drunken sister-fucking and wife-beating
OUR STATE RELIGION -- A FAKE MORALITY
You worship a religion when you obey its teachings, consider its laws above all other laws, and are willing to use your deadly force to protect your religion from those who would use deadly force to destroy it. A full and perfect description of government, which is the organized will of men.
For the rich nobility of America, they owning most of the slaves, wealth and all of the land grants in America, to protect their excessive wealth and right to enslave all who do manual labor, they established a fiction religion that established a fake morality which reads:
PREAMBLE
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men
are created equal, that they are endowed by their
Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among
these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
Then to make sure that their religion remained the only state religion, they added this absolute restriction:
CONSTITUTION
“Congress shall pass no law respecting the establishment
of (a new) religion, or the free exercise thereof (of the one
and only state religion).”
Truth is, planet earth has always been an intelligence dictatorship, and to prove the harm in it, in this life the rich will always hoard all the wealth and power.
Comes now a little church in Florida with the power to totally destroy our state religion and all its deadly force. For the Moslem religion is the world’s largest, even greater then all the Christians and Jews combined, and if our government should fail to stop the desecration of their Holy Koran, say a quick prayer to all your favorite gods because here comes Revelation and the end time in real time.
You are living in Revelation in real time. While the prophecy of the book of Revelation was given to John at a specific point in time human beings have been living in the end times since the beginning.
Creator gave the prophecy to Jesus to give to John at a specific time in time as Creator resides outside of time and has seen all things already from beginning to end.
What is happening in real time upon the earth now and through all time Creator, God, the All of All has already seen. So what is happening in real time is like a Tv Rerun to Creator.
To Creator it's like watching a movie Creator has already seen. Except Creator doesn't need Tv, Newspapers, or the Net to know what's happening. Thus my short story one of your Cable Tv companies sent a Bill to God saying, Nobody gets to watch for free.
Creator already knows what your going to write before you ever write anything. Creator knows what your going to speak before you ever speak to anyone about anything.
No matter where you are upon Planet Earth Creator is watching and listening to you.
No matter where you are or what you are doing the Kingdom of Heaven is keeping a file on you. But the Kingdom of Heaven keeps files on the world of man that keeps files on other people, too.
There's a file being kept on Terry Jones, and you, too. A file was kept on George Washington and Caesar Augustus, too. Creator already knows your world is a from of reality but only a form of reality. Caesar's Matrix.
I wonder or almost wonder when Jesus said, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's if he already knew that while it may look like Caesar is building some really grand swell world upon the Earth all it will eventually do is turn into Hell on Earth.
Myself, this old Indian is only passing through your Rat Race World.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
Christ was a great spiritual master, who said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is within" as one of his primary tenets. It saddens me that there are so many who somehow find cause to externalize some notion of a "Creator" as separate from the spirit of our own heart-awareness. This is the nature of love as Christ spoke of it, fully imbuing what is within and without equally.
When we conceptualize simple love and compassion into the form of an external "Creator," it's then that we humans find all kinds of cause to harm each other, mostly as a result of feeling our dearly held belief system is being threatened or undermined.
The case of this pastor is a perfect example. He believes his "God" is the only "true God" and that all other belief systems are utterly false in light of this. This is the height of spiritual pride.
When Christ said, "Love your enemy," what did he mean? Why did he say this? It seems very logical to say he's speaking of the universal nature of love, that whatever the belief system or faith of another we must strive to have great love and compassion no matter what. This is the heart of every canonized saint or holy man or woman to come out of all the faith traditions of the world.
All else is clinging to our own belief system out of fear and hatred at having to face all within ourselves that stands in the way of the pure love that we ultimately are. This is what Christ meant when he said that you will do as I have done and more; i.e. you are as much pure love as I am.
There is no joy in anger and hatred. There is only joy in the love that applies no conditions, that understands that the basis of all happiness is the wisdom that transcends all such limiting views.
The truth of our being is limitless, so very beyond language or concepts. And we can either use concepts to separate ourselves from others and the world, or we can use them to come closer to the truth of our mystical nature, though in this latter case we leave them behind in the end.
The choice is always ours.
Well I suppose then our president has a very special Christian love for our enemies; he's allowing them, through the Pentagon, to be killed every day. Sanctioned mass murder is okay, but build a little mosque, threaten to burn a few Qurans and we end up with a lot of hypocritical woo from secularists and faith-heads.
Loving your enemies keeps one in the Spiritual Harmony of Spiritual Love and Light. I love the Hopi as my friends. I love my enemies, too. There are a lot of people I love as my friends. I love my enemies, too.
The Kingdom is within. The Kingdom is upon the earth. But the Kingdom of Heaven is not of the world of man, this world.
Life is good. What an experience! It's always best to forgive.
Good news.... but.
Better news, which people should be protesting more over (because this provokes violence more than fairytale book burning) would be if our government called off our troops in Afghanistan. They make pastor Jones look like a piker. They're not burning Qurans over there, they're burning PEOPLE.