What Have We Learned, If Anything?
The twentieth century is hardly behind us but already its quarrels and its achievements, its ideals and its fears are slipping into the obscurity of mis-memory. In the West we have made haste to dispense whenever possible with the economic, intellectual, and institutional baggage of the twentieth century and encouraged others to do likewise. In the wake of 1989, with boundless confidence and insufficient reflection, we put the twentieth century behind us and strode boldly into its successor swaddled in self-serving half-truths: the triumph of the West, the end of History, the unipolar Ameri-can moment, the ineluctable march of globalization and the free market.
The belief that that was then and this is now embraced much more than just the defunct dogmas and institutions of cold war-era communism. During the Nineties, and again in the wake of September 11, 2001, I was struck more than once by a perverse contemporary insistence on not understanding the context of our present dilemmas, at home and abroad; on not listening with greater care to some of the wiser heads of earlier decades; on seeking actively to forget rather than remember, to deny continuity and proclaim novelty on every possible occasion. We have become stridently insistent that the past has little of interest to teach us. Ours, we assert, is a new world; its risks and opportunities are without precedent.
Perhaps this is not surprising. The recent past is the hardest to know and understand. Moreover, the world really has undergone a remarkable transformation since 1989 and such transformations are always unsettling for those who remember how things were before. In the decades following the French Revolution, the douceur de vivre of the vanished ancien régime was much regretted by older commentators. A century later, evocations and memoirs of pre-Word War I Europe typically depicted (and still depict) a lost civilization, a world whose illusions had quite literally been blown apart: "Never such innocence again."[1]
But there is a difference. Contemporaries might have regretted the world before the French Revolution. But they had not forgotten it. For much of the nineteenth century Europeans remained obsessed with the causes and meaning of the upheavals that began in 1789. The political and philosophical debates of the Enlightenment had not been consumed in the fires of revolution. On the contrary, the Revolution and its consequences were widely attributed to that same Enlightenment which thus emerged-for friend and foe alike-as the acknowledged source of the political dogmas and social programs of the century that followed.In a similar vein, while everyone after 1918 agreed that things would never be the same again, the particular shape that a postwar world should take was everywhere conceived and contested in the long shadow of nineteenth-century experience and thought. Neoclassical economics, liberalism, Marxism (and its Communist stepchild), "revolution," the bourgeoisie and the proletariat, imperialism, and "industrialism"-the building blocks of the twentieth-century political world-were all nineteenth-century artifacts. Even those who, along with Virginia Woolf, believed that "on or about December 1910, human character changed" -that the cultural upheaval of Europe's fin de siècle had utterly transformed the terms of intellectual exchange-nonetheless devoted a surprising amount of energy to shadowboxing with their predecessors.[2] The past hung heavy across the present. Today, in contrast, we wear the last century rather lightly. To be sure, we have memorialized it everywhere: shrines, inscriptions, "heritage sites," even historical theme parks are all public reminders of "the Past." But the twentieth century that we have chosen to commemorate is curiously out of focus. The overwhelming majority of places of official twentieth-century memory are either avowedly nostalgo-triumphalist-praising famous men and celebrating famous victories-or else, and increasingly, they are opportunities for the recollection of selective suffering.The twentieth century is thus on the path to becoming a moral memory palace: a pedagogically serviceable Chamber of Historical Horrors whose way stations are labeled "Munich" or "Pearl Harbor," "Auschwitz" or "Gulag," "Armenia" or "Bosnia" or "Rwanda"; with "9/11" as a sort of supererogatory coda, a bloody postscript for those who would forget the lessons of the century or who failed to learn them. The problem with this lapidary representation of the last century as a uniquely horrible time from which we have now, thankfully, emerged is not the description-it was in many ways a truly awful era, an age of brutality and mass suffering perhaps unequaled in the historical record. The problem is the message: that all of that is now behind us, that its meaning is clear, and that we may now advance-unencumbered by past errors-into a different and better era. But such official commemoration does not enhance our appreciation and awareness of the past. It serves as a substitute, a surrogate. Instead of teaching history we walk children through museums and memorials. Worse still, we encourage them to see the past- and its lessons-through the vector of their ancestors' suffering. Today, the "common" interpretation of the recent past is thus composed of the manifold fragments of separate pasts, each of them (Jewish, Polish, Serb, Armenian, German, Asian-American, Palestinian, Irish, homosexual...) marked by its own distinctive and assertive victimhood.The resulting mosaic does not bind us to a shared past, it separates us from it. Whatever the shortcomings of the national narratives once taught in school, however selective their focus and instrumental their message, they had at least the advantage of providing a nation with past references for present experience. Traditional history, as taught to generations of schoolchildren and college students, gave the present a meaning by reference to the past: today's names, places, inscriptions, ideas, and allusions could be slotted into a memorized narrative of yesterday. In our time, however, this process has gone into reverse. The past now acquires meaning only by reference to our many and often contrasting present concerns.This disconcertingly alien character of the past is doubtless in part the result of the sheer speed of contemporary change. "Globalization" really has churned up people's lives in ways that their parents or grandparents would be hard put to imagine. Much of what had for decades, even centuries, seemed familiar and permanent is now passing rapidly into oblivion. The past, it seems, really is another country: they did things differently there.
The expansion of communication offers a case in point. Until the last decades of the twentieth century most people in the world had limited access to information; but-thanks to national education, state-controlled radio and television, and a common print culture -within any one state or nation or community people were all likely to know many of the same things. Today, the opposite applies. Most people in the world outside of sub-Saharan Africa have access to a near infinity of data. But in the absence of any common culture beyond a small elite, and not always even there, the fragmented information and ideas that people select or encounter are determined by a multiplicity of tastes, affinities, and interests. As the years pass, each one of us has less in common with the fast-multiplying worlds of our contemporaries, not to speak of the world of our forebears.
All of this is surely true-and it has disturbing implications for the future of democratic governance. Nevertheless, disruptive change, even global transformation, is not in itself unprecedented. The economic "globalization" of the late nineteenth century was no less turbulent, except that its implications were initially felt and understood by far fewer people. What is significant about the present age of transformations is the unique insouciance with which we have abandoned not merely the practices of the past but their very memory. A world just recently lost is already half forgotten.
What, then, is it that we have misplaced in our haste to put the twentieth century behind us? In the US, at least, we have forgotten the meaning of war. There is a reason for this. In much of continental Europe, Asia, and Africa the twentieth century was experienced as a cycle of wars. War in the last century signified invasion, occupation, displacement, deprivation, destruction, and mass murder. Countries that lost wars often lost population, territory, resources, security, and independence. But even those countries that emerged formally victorious had comparable experiences and usually remembered war much as the losers did. Italy after World War I, China after World War II, and France after both wars might be cases in point: all were "winners" and all were devastated. And then there are those countries that won a war but "lost the peace," squandering the opportunities afforded them by their victory. The Western Allies at Versailles and Israel in the decades following its June 1967 victory remain the most telling examples.Moreover, war in the twentieth century frequently meant civil war: often under the cover of occupation or "liberation." Civil war played a significant role in the widespread "ethnic cleansing" and forced population transfers of the twentieth century, from India and Turkey to Spain and Yugoslavia. Like foreign occupation, civil war is one of the terrible "shared" memories of the past hundred years. In many countries "putting the past behind us"-i.e., agreeing to overcome or forget (or deny) a recent memory of internecine conflict and intercommunal violence- has been a primary goal of postwar governments: sometimes achieved, sometimes overachieved.War was not just a catastrophe in its own right; it brought other horrors in its wake. World War I led to an unprecedented militarization of society, the worship of violence, and a cult of death that long outlasted the war itself and prepared the ground for the political disasters that followed. States and societies seized during and after World War II by Hitler or Stalin (or by both, in sequence) experienced not just occupation and exploitation but degradation and corrosion of the laws and norms of civil society. The very structures of civilized life-regulations, laws, teachers, policemen, judges- disappeared or else took on sinister significance: far from guaranteeing security, the state itself became the leading source of insecurity. Reciprocity and trust, whether in neighbors, colleagues, community, or leaders, collapsed. Behavior that would be aberrant in conventional circumstances- theft, dishonesty, dissemblance, indifference to the misfortune of others, and the opportunistic exploitation of their suffering-became not just normal but sometimes the only way to save your family and yourself. Dissent or opposition was stifled by universal fear.War, in short, prompted behavior that would have been unthinkable as well as dysfunctional in peacetime. It is war, not racism or ethnic antagonism or religious fervor, that leads to atrocity. War-total war-has been the crucial antecedent condition for mass criminality in the modern era. The first primitive concentration camps were set up by the British during the Boer War of 1899-1902. Without World War I there would have been no Armenian genocide and it is highly unlikely that either communism or fascism would have seized hold of modern states. Without World War II there would have been no Holocaust. Absent the forcible involvement of Cambodia in the Vietnam War, we would never have heard of Pol Pot. As for the brutalizing effect of war on ordinary soldiers themselves, this of course has been copiously documented.[3] The United States avoided almost all of that. Americans, perhaps alone in the world, experienced the twentieth century in a far more positive light. The US was not invaded. It did not lose vast numbers of citizens, or huge swathes of territory, as a result of occupation or dismemberment. Although humiliated in distant neocolonial wars (in Vietnam and now in Iraq), the US has never suffered the full consequences of defeat.[4] Despite their ambivalence toward its recent undertakings, most Americans still feel that the wars their country has fought were mostly "good wars." The US was greatly enriched by its role in the two world wars and by their outcome, in which respect it has nothing in common with Britain, the only other major country to emerge unambiguously victorious from those struggles but at the cost of near bankruptcy and the loss of empire. And compared with other major twentieth-century combatants, the US lost relatively few soldiers in battle and suffered hardly any civilian casualties.This contrast merits statistical emphasis. In World War I the US suffered slightly fewer than 120,000 combat deaths. For the UK, France, and Germany the figures are respectively 885,000, 1.4 million, and over 2 million. In World War II, when the US lost about 420,000 armed forces in combat, Japan lost 2.1 million, China 3.8 million, Germany 5.5 million, and the Soviet Union an estimated 10.7 million. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C., records the deaths of 58,195 Americans over the course of a war lasting fifteen years: but the French army lost double that number in six weeks of fighting in May-June 1940. In the US Army's costliest engagement of the century-the Ardennes offensive of December 1944-January 1945 (the "Battle of the Bulge")-19,300 American soldiers were killed. In the first twenty-four hours of the Battle of the Somme (July 1, 1916), the British army lost more than 20,000 dead. At the Battle of Stalingrad, the Red Army lost 750,000 men and the Wehrmacht almost as many.With the exception of the generation of men who fought in World War II, the United States thus has no modern memory of combat or loss remotely comparable to that of the armed forces of other countries. But it is civilian casualties that leave the most enduring mark on national memory and here the contrast is piquant indeed. In World War II alone the British suffered 67,000 civilian dead. In continental Europe, France lost 270,000 civilians. Yugoslavia recorded over half a million civilian deaths, Germany 1.8 million, Poland 5.5 million, and the Soviet Union an estimated 11.4 million. These aggregate figures include some 5.8 million Jewish dead. Further afield, in China, the death count exceeded 16 million. American civilian losses (excluding the merchant navy) in both world wars amounted to less than 2,000 dead.As a consequence, the United States today is the only advanced democracy where public figures glorify and exalt the military, a sentiment familiar in Europe before 1945 but quite unknown today. Politicians in the US surround themselves with the symbols and trappings of armed prowess; even in 2008 American commentators excoriate allies that hesitate to engage in armed conflict. I believe it is this contrasting recollection of war and its impact, rather than any structural difference between the US and otherwise comparable countries, which accounts for their dissimilar responses to international challenges today. Indeed, the complacent neoconservative claim that war and conflict are things Americans understand-in contrast to naive Europeans with their pacifistic fantasies -seems to me exactly wrong: it is Europeans (along with Asians and Africans) who understand war all too well. Most Americans have been fortunate enough to live in blissful ignorance of its true significance.That same contrast may account for the distinctive quality of much American writing on the cold war and its outcome. In European accounts of the fall of communism, from both sides of the former Iron Curtain, the dominant sentiment is one of relief at the closing of a long, unhappy chapter. Here in the US, however, the story is typically recorded in a triumphalist key.[5] And why not? For many American commentators and policymakers the message of the twentieth century is that war works. Hence the widespread enthusiasm for our war on Iraq in 2003 (despite strong opposition to it in most other countries). For Washington, war remains an option-on that occasion the first option. For the rest of the developed world it has become a last resort.[6]
Ignorance of twentieth-century history does not just contribute to a regrettable enthusiasm for armed conflict. It also leads to a misidentification of the enemy. We have good reason to be taken up just now with terrorism and its challenge. But before setting out on a hundred-year war to eradicate terrorists from the face of the earth, let us consider the following. Terrorists are nothing new. Even if we exclude assassinations or attempted assassinations of presidents and monarchs and confine ourselves to men and women who kill random unarmed civilians in pursuit of a political objective, terrorists have been with us for well over a century.There have been anarchist terrorists, Russian terrorists, Indian terrorists, Arab terrorists, Basque terrorists, Malay terrorists, Tamil terrorists, and dozens of others besides. There have been and still are Christian terrorists, Jewish terrorists, and Muslim terrorists. There were Yugoslav ("partisan") terrorists settling scores in World War II; Zionist terrorists blowing up Arab marketplaces in Palestine before 1948; American-financed Irish terrorists in Margaret Thatcher's London; US-armed mujahideen terrorists in 1980s Afghanistan; and so on.No one who has lived in Spain, Italy, Germany, Turkey, Japan, the UK, or France, not to speak of more habitually violent lands, could have failed to notice the omnipresence of terrorists- using guns, bombs, chemicals, cars, trains, planes, and much else-over the course of the twentieth century and beyond. The only thing that has changed in recent years is the unleashing in September 2001 of homicidal terrorism within the United States. Even that was not wholly unprecedented: the means were new and the carnage unexampled, but terrorism on US soil was far from unknown over the course of the twentieth century.But what of the argument that terrorism today is different, a "clash of cultures" infused with a noxious brew of religion and authoritarian politics: "Islamofascism"? This, too, is an interpretation resting in large part on a misreading of twentieth-century history. There is a triple confusion here. The first consists of lumping together the widely varying national fascisms of interwar Europe with the very different resentments, demands, and strategies of the (equally heterogeneous) Muslim movements and insurgencies of our own time-and attaching the moral credibility of the antifascist struggles of the past to our own more dubiously motivated military adventures.A second confusion comes from conflating a handful of religiously motivated stateless assassins with the threat posed in the twentieth century by wealthy, modern states in the hands of totalitarian political parties committed to foreign aggression and mass extermination. Nazism was a threat to our very existence and the Soviet Union occupied half of Europe. But al-Qaeda? The comparison insults the intelligence-not to speak of the memory of those who fought the dictators. Even those who assert these similarities don't appear to believe them. After all, if Osama bin Laden were truly comparable to Hitler or Stalin, would we really have responded to September 11 by invading...Baghdad?
But the most serious mistake consists of taking the form for the content: defining all the various terrorists and terrorisms of our time, with their contrasting and sometimes conflicting objectives, by their actions alone. It would be rather as though one were to lump together the Italian Red Brigades, the German Baader-Meinhof gang, the Provisional IRA, the Basque ETA, Switzerland's Jura Separatists, and the National Front for the Liberation of Corsica; dismiss their differences as insignificant; label the resulting amalgam of ideological kneecappers, bomb throwers, and political murderers "European Extremism" (or "Christo-fascism," perhaps?)...and then declare uncompromising, open-ended armed warfare against it.
This abstracting of foes and threats from their context-this ease with which we have talked ourselves into believing that we are at war with "Islamofascists," "extremists" from a strange culture, who dwell in some distant "Islamistan," who hate us for who we are and seek to destroy "our way of life"-is a sure sign that we have forgotten the lesson of the twentieth century: the ease with which war and fear and dogma can bring us to demonize others, deny them a common humanity or the protection of our laws, and do unspeakable things to them.
How else are we to explain our present indulgence for the practice of torture? For indulge it we assuredly do. The twentieth century began with the Hague Conventions on the laws of war. As of 2008 the twenty-first century has to its credit the Guantánamo Bay detention camp. Here and in other (secret) prisons the United States routinely tortures terrorists or suspected terrorists. There is ample twentieth-century precedent for this, of course, and not only in dictatorships. The British tortured terrorists in their East African colonies as late as the 1950s. The French tortured captured Algerian terrorists in the "dirty war" to keep Algeria French.[7]At the height of the Algerian war Raymond Aron published two powerful essays urging France to quit Algeria and concede its independence: this, he insisted, was a pointless war that France could not win. Some years later Aron was asked why, when opposing French rule in Algeria, he did not also add his voice to those who were speaking out against the use of torture in Algeria. "But what would I have achieved by proclaiming my opposition to torture?" he replied. "I have never met anyone who is in favor of torture."[8]Well, times have changed. In the US today there are many respectable, thinking people who favor torture- under the appropriate circumstances and when applied to those who merit it. Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School writes that "the simple cost-benefit analysis for employing such non-lethal torture [to extract time-sensitive information from a prisoner] seems overwhelming." Professor Jean Bethke Elshtain of the University of Chicago's School of Divinity acknowledges that torture remains a horror and is "in general [sic]...forbidden." But when interrogating "prisoners in the context of a deadly and dangerous war against enemies who know no limits...there are moments when this rule may be overridden."[9]These chilling assertions are echoed by New York's Senator Charles Schumer (a Democrat), who at a Senate hearing in 2004 claimed that "there are probably very few people in this room or in America who would say that torture should never ever be used." Certainly not Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who informed the BBC's Radio Four in February 2008 that it would be absurd to say that you couldn't torture. In Scalia's words,
Once you acknowledge that, we're into a different game. How close does the threat have to be? How severe can the infliction of pain be? I don't think these are easy questions at all.... But I certainly know you can't come in smugly and with great self-satisfaction and say, "Oh, it's torture, and therefore it's no good."[10]
But it was precisely that claim, that "it's torture, and therefore it's no good," which until very recently distinguished democracies from dictatorships. We pride ourselves on having defeated the "evil empire" of the Soviets. Indeed so. But perhaps we should read again the memoirs of those who suffered at the hands of that empire- the memoirs of Eugen Loebl, Artur London, Jo Langer, Lena Constante, and countless others-and then compare the degrading abuses they suffered with the treatments approved and authorized by President Bush and the US Congress. Are they so very different?[11]
Torture certainly "works." As the history of twentieth-century police states suggests, under extreme torture most people will say anything (including, sometimes, the truth). But to what end? Thanks to information extracted from terrorists under torture, the French army won the 1957 Battle of Algiers. Just over four years later the war was over, Algeria was independent, and the "terrorists" had won. But France still carries the stain and the memory of the crimes committed in its name. Torture really is no good, especially for republics. And as Aron noted many decades ago, "torture-and lies-[are] the accompaniment of war.... What needed to be done was end the war."[12]
We are slipping down a slope. The sophistic distinctions we draw today in our war on terror-between the rule of law and "exceptional" circumstances, between citizens (who have rights and legal protections) and noncitizens to whom anything can be done, between normal people and "terrorists," between "us" and "them" -are not new. The twentieth century saw them all invoked. They are the selfsame distinctions that licensed the worst horrors of the recent past: internment camps, deportation, torture, and murder-those very crimes that prompt us to murmur "never again." So what exactly is it that we think we have learned from the past? Of what possible use is our self-righteous cult of memory and memorials if the United States can build its very own internment camp and torture people there?
Far from escaping the twentieth century, we need, I think, to go back and look a bit more carefully. We need to learn again-or perhaps for the first time-how war brutalizes and degrades winners and losers alike and what happens to us when, having heedlessly waged war for no good reason, we are encouraged to inflate and demonize our enemies in order to justify that war's indefinite continuance. And perhaps, in this protracted electoral season, we could put a question to our aspirant leaders: Daddy (or, as it might be, Mommy), what did you do to prevent the war?
Notes
[1] Never such innocence,
Never before or since,
As changed itself to past
Without a word-the men
Leaving the gardens tidy,
The thousands of marriages
Lasting a little while longer:
Never such innocence again.
-Philip Larkin, MCMXIV
[2] See, for example, Lytton Strachey, Eminent Victorians, first published in 1918.
[3] See Vernichtungskrieg: Verbrechen der Wehrmacht 1941-1944, edited by Hannes Heer and Klaus Naumann (Hamburg: Hamburger Edition, 1995). Many German soldiers on the eastern front and in Yugoslavia recorded their worst crimes for the delectation of family and friends. The American prison guards in Abu Ghraib are their lineal descendants.
[4] The defeated South did indeed experience just such consequences following the Civil War, however. And its subsequent humiliation, resentment, and backwardness are the American exception that illustrates the rule.
[5] See my discussion of The Cold War: A New History (Penguin, 2005) by John Lewis Gaddis, in The New York Review, March 23, 2006.
[6] It should be noted, however, that a younger generation of political leaders in the UK-starting with Tony Blair- has proven almost as indifferent to the lessons of the twentieth century as their American contemporaries.
[7] See Caroline Elkins, Imperial Reckoning: The Untold Story of Britain's Gulag in Kenya (Henry Holt, 2005); Marnia Lazreg, Torture and the Twilight of Empire: From Algiers to Baghdad (Princeton University Press, 2008); and Darius Rejali, Torture and Democracy (Princeton University Press, 2007).
[8] Raymond Aron, La Tragédie Algérienne (Paris: Plon, 1957), L'Algérie et la République (Paris: Plon, 1958), and Le Spectateur engagé (Paris: Julliard, 1981), p. 210. For a firsthand account of torture, see Henri Alleg, The Question (Bison, 2006; originally published in 1958 as La Question). La Torture dans la République, by the late Pierre Vidal-Naquet, is a penetrating account of how torture rots the political system that authorizes it. First published in English in 1963, this book has long been out of print. It should be retranslated and made required reading for every congressman and presidential candidate in the US.
[9] Alan M. Dershowitz, Why Terrorism Works: Understanding the Threat, Responding to the Challenge (Yale University Press, 2002), p. 144; Jean Bethke Elshtain, "Reflections on the Problem of 'Dirty Hands,'" in Torture: A Collection, edited by Sanford Levinson (Oxford University Press, 2004), pp. 80-83.
[10] Senator Schumer is quoted in The Wall Street Journal, November 2, 2007. For Justice Scalia's remarks, see www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-13-scalia_N.htm.
[11] Lena Constante, The Silent Escape: Three Thousand Days in Romanian Prisons (University of California Press, 1995); Jo Langer, Une Saison àBratislava (Paris: Seuil, 1981); Eugen Loebl, My Mind on Trial (Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1976); Artur Gerard London, L'Aveu, dans l'engrenage du Procès de Prague (Paris: Gallimard, 1971).
[12] Le Spectateur engagé, pp. 210-211.
© 2008 The New York Review of Books
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Show AllSome believe that we defeated communism, when the Soviet Union collapsed under its own rust and China is still going strong. They also believe that the free markets, which do not exist, will solve all problems. We will go down like the Soviets, but years later under more than $10 trillion in debt, if we do not change our ways.
"Jura separatists" come in a startling variety of flavors. The original "Jura separatists" have successfully separated from Canton Bern, after 262 years of agitation, but that isn't the end of the story.
Canton Jura was donated to the Bishop of Basel by the King of Burgundy in 999 AD, and it remained entailed to the bishopric for over 800 years, until the Congress of Vienna attached it to Canton Bern in 1815. But since the Jura was Catholic and Bern was almost entirely Protestant, this attachment set off 262 years of separatist agitation, finally resolved in 1977 by the separate establishment of the Republic and Canton of the Jura.
In the meantime, a small section of the Jura near Bern agitated for separation from the separatists, and successfully reattached itself to Canton Bern as the Bernese Jura.
So apparently all is well in the Jura today, and all the separatists have separated themselves from whatever they wanted to be separated from, or from whatever was separating from something to which they still wanted to belong.
Correction on that final quote on my last post. It is "sic transit gloria mundi."
For some reason, my attempt to edit my original post did not succeed.
What have we learned, if anything? Why absolutely nothing, of course! To learn nothing is the American way. To believe what we want to believe in spite of all the evidence to the contrary is the American way. Americans are faith-based, not knowledge-based. Our moment of empire will be finished before the end of this century, and America will become a nation living on past glories and resentments of those nations more powerful than us. We will, for all that, have still learned nothing. Sic transit gloria mundi.
As a comparative note- more people are killed in the US EVERY DAY in common traffic collisions than died on 9/11.
I lived in Oregon when St Helens blew - we could see Hood, Adams, and St Helens from our house. I also lived in post-WWII Europe as a child. There is no comparison - that would be a sick joke. Americans can't imagine what it might be like to lose 35-50 million people - it's just mind-boggling. And look at how they reacted at 9-11 - like it was some great holocaust or something!! No more than a 'normal' week in a war-torn country - year in and year out. The absolute ignorance (and apathy) are astonishing. I'm beginning to think that there is no hope for Americans - they are just callous, sadistic, perverted, vicious, self-rightous, narcisstic, and generally too ignorant to know their - well, you know how that line goes. The Nazis were the same way - and I saw how they ended up. I think we're headed for the same fate. Maybe then Americans will get beyond the two-year-old stage of tantrums and selfishness - or maybe not.
Perhaps, Jacob, after reading about the Jura Separatists in Switzerland, you might venture into NATO's stand behind armies, Gladio, and the rightwing paramilitaries encouraged by the fascist, modern, wealthy states to ensure communists and leftists were blamed for the violence they themselves perpetrated on their own publics? Have we learned from the lessons of the twentieth century? I will argue we have learned the wrong lessons, and taken too much to heart the power of corporate/militaristic fascism. Judt's essay is good, but fails to comprehend the battle against Islamofascists is likely as much a fabrication, made convenient by the violent extremists that DO exist, but capitalized upon very successfully by the same motivations that propelled cold war rightwing paramilitaries to commit violence. The political expedience of preventing undesirable regimes from gaining power, coupled with the resource necessities of a world rapidly consuming what is available make for powerful motives to exercise "total war" even against one's own.
Gore Vidal hit on a memorable phrase when he refers to the United States as the "United States of Amnesia" because we as a people "remember nothing and learn nothing." That is why so many are prey to demagogues like George W. Bush and militarism rides high in the Land of the Free. Noam Chomsky has observed that with respect to the "War on Terrorism" and the label "islamofascism" to describe the putative enemy, the people who came up with this stuff don't believe a word of it. They know (with few exceptions) that this is a con job to rally the uneducated masses to support the Right Wing control of the Government through perpetual war.
All the articles on this thread could have been written by people who hadn't read Tony Judt's essay.
Why bother to google the Jura Separists or Raymond Aron, when you can blather out a hodge-podge of half-baked adolescent "notions" that could just as well attach itself to almost any other article on CommmonDreams?
Militant separatists in a little country like Switzerland! Isn't that strange?
But the cosmic commenters on CommonDreams don't have time for curiosity...
So let's get right back to the usual trash about global and inter-galactic conspiracies, and avoid anything that requires research or reflection or humility.
911 was shut down today at count=868, for additional postings, but one can STILL read it while NOT logged in.
Namaste
S DEMETRI: Powerful posting. Did you by any chance miss the "Olympic" style response to the 911 piece posted a few days ago? Last I checked it had 678 responses, and I'd say 70% are still curious as to the FACTS of what happened, and among that percentile, a good number lean towards the sense it WAS an inside job.
Solzhenitzen as a captain in the Soviet army, openly writing letters critical of the Soviet leadership which later landed him in the Gulag for a long eight year nightmare, surprised even himself at the brutality he could show the soldiers under him that disobeyed or rebelled. As I recall one particular account, an open pit was dug and the offender was left to the harsh elements for frightening periods of time, until near death. He mused on the simplicity of his cruelty in the circumstances of the times. It was frighteningly easy to be so brutal. But isn't that why the Hague Conventions, the Geneva Conventions, any other international convention were proposed and propagated; to address this tendency to brutality, to attempt to lift humanity away from its bestial tendencies?
Scott Horton gave an important speech a couple of years ago entitled, When Lawyers Are War Criminals, delivered on the occasion of a conference on the Nuremberg trials in Oct, 2006. The architect of Germany's Nacht and Neberlerlass program, the Fog and Night decrees, which "disappeared" partisans resulting in the deaths of some 7000 people, Field Marshal Keitel was condemned and hanged by the Nuremberg judges. A document written by the German lawyer Helmut von Moltke, who actively worked to uphold the international conventions then in effect -- Horton says of him, "His tenacious advocacy of the Geneva and Hague Conventions in the face of withering criticism and suspicion from the Nazi hierarchy saved the lives of thousands of civilians and prisoners, particularly on the Eastern Front and in the Balkans." -- Moltke's document became evidence used to bring Keitel's death sentence. For in the margins of this document Keitel had written that the Geneva Conventions were "quaint" and "obsolete," they reflected the "outmoded notions of chivalric warfare." Compare this to views of the torture lawyers of our day, and Gonzales' statement that the Geneva Conventions were "quaint" and "obsolete" and did not apply to a "new kind of warfare." How stark a comparison is needed to see where we stand today. And indeed, why a lack of widespread protest...?
Regarding the above list of terrorist activity, gun boat strafings of Cuban resorts by CIA-backed Cuban exiles, or the sheltering of known terrorist Carlos Posada ought to be remembered in this context. That they are "our" terrorists, acting in our national interests, should not matter.
And one last consideration, NATO's "stay behind" armies, the Italian arm of which in 1990 Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti revealed as a "structure of information, response and safeguard" but which Italian Senator Giovanni Pellegrino investigating various bombings in Italy in the 1960's through the 1980's found, as reported in the commission's final report, "Those massacres, those bombs, those military actions had been organized or promoted or supported by men inside Italian state institutions and, as has been discovered more recently, by men linked to the structures of United States intelligence." The effect of the bombings at the Piazza Fontana in Milan, and the Piazza della Loggia in Brescia prevented the left leaning groups "from reaching executive power in the country." State-sponsored terrorism to reach political ends is not relegated to simply Middle Eastern oligarchies of propped up dictators and repressive regimes.
The force of the second bomb used in the Bali bombing is reported to have stripped the concrete clean off of it's rebar reinforcing lattice in concrete slabs meters from the blast site. Photos of the site show this effect. Buildings were damaged up to 3 km away from the blast site. This damage pattern and the intensity of the blast did not come from the reported fertilizer bomb of 300 to 400 kg of potassium chlorate. The type of bomb capable of this type of damage is indicative of state sponsored terrorism. Which state? I suspect those that have benefitted the most what has followed, in much the same way the rightwing paramilitaries in Italy profited politically from their clandestine operations.
Our leaders can justify torture, rendition, loss of habeas rights, illegal surveillance, a pre-emptive war which has resulted in the deaths of possibly over a million people to battle an unseen enemy. But what if the real danger is in fact from some of our own, and the means are what justify an end they have decided upon?
Put for a moment the September 11 attacks in this context, and consider the historical precedents for just such an action. The Guantanamo prisoners that up for trial in the September 11 bombings are held and to be tried on evidence derived from torture, are not allowed to see the evidence against them, are unable to adequately defend themselves, and yet the death penalty is being actively sought against them. And public statements regarding Osama Bin Ladens culpability in those particular attacks by the FBI are as follows: we have no hard evidence.
Is this the lesson we are leaving behind for OUR children?
History is important of course.
Unfortunately, our history has been altered, and every event that leaves you scratching your head and asking WTF, is put off as a coincidence, accident, incompetence or a mistake. In fact, much of it is a conspiracy.
And those who are part of the conspiracy control your history, and tell you not to believe in conspiracy. (Parents telling their children their is a Santa Clause which serves those commercial interests, conspire against their children, and when the oldest child is old enough, he gets let in on the conspiracy and is told to keep it secret from his younger sibling)
Most of the wars of the last 2 centuries have been orchestrated by the elite who control money of nations, and have the power over government, industry, education and media. If you question 9/11, you are a conspiracy theorist and ignored, ridiculed, or fired (depending on your job and reliance on government). If you question Israel's actions or political Zionism, you are labelled an antisemite, and if you work for a university, you will be fired, and if you write a book, you will find difficulty getting it published. Question anything about the Holocaust, such as how the number of people killed were determined, and you are a Holocaust Denier, and in many countries you can be prosecuted for Hate Crime (must be some secret there). This discourages historians from investigating the truth behind WW II, perhaps it would be too shocking if it came out (might even make 9/11 look like childs play).
The same people, who have descended from those who controlled money and power, who gave us the slave trade, civil war, and every war since, have given us 9/11 and the GWOT, and what is coming might make the holocaust of Christians and Torah following Jews in WW II look tame by comparison. The President is just a puppet. He does what he is told or he gets put down, one way or another.
Take back your money, eliminate the Fed by nationalizing it, and then issue your own debt free money, and maybe you can escape your fate. But instead of talking about this, they talk about giving the Fed more power. Not a good sign. If you think Hillary or Obama is going to save you, ask them what they think about government issuing it's own money to pay for domestic needs, like health care, social security and infrastructure repair and devlopment.
What countries issue their own money? As of 2001 they were.
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iran
North Korea
Sudan
Cuba
Libya
Iraq and Afghanistan have been taken care of. The rest will be taken care of sooner or later.
The history of usury is quite interesting. All 3 religions, Islam, Judaism and Christianity forbade it. The Talmud was completed in 500 AD, and allowed usury, but only if charged to those of other religions. Since usury in a time of war required governments to borrow money, those who could lend it at interest would profit greatly. So it is clear which group was in a position to profit from banking and wars. Today, Christian religions allow usury but forbid excessive usury , and do not define excessive. Islam still forbids it, but gets around it by selling you the money you need and have it paid back on an installment plan that includes a handling charge, but this is not as profitable as compound interest, which Einstein said was the greatest power in the universe.
Not until the US is bombed flat will it be able to learn from history. Living in Europe a full 20 years after the war made me understand that if it weren't for 2 world wars, Europe would still be as stupidly adolescent as the US is now.
elmestizogordo:
De acuerdo. A heavy read 'twas; truly steak and not pablum.
A good parallel read is Andrew Bacevich's "The New American Militarism : How Americans Are Seduced By War".
There is a difference in the view of this war among US civilians and European civilians. I asked a 7th grade class what they want to do, and 3 students out of 12 said they wanted to join the military. I don't think you would have that in a European class.
The pain and suffering of both the US soldiers and the Iraqi civilians is hidden from us. And even if it weren't, most people still wouldn't be interested in looking.
The suffering caused by the great depression even affected many in the US. Some of them learned a lesson, to not be wasteful. I guess that lesson is being lost as well.
The leaders, on the other hand, are another story. Many European politicians sent soldiers to the current 'war effort' in lockstep with the US. I guess the promise of free money in the form of 'foreign aid' is always convincing.
For something to change, there will have to be a culture change affecting all facets of society where peace and justice has top priority.
What will it take? I think that no matter how low society sinks, and no matter how much injustice there will in the world, society will not get off their ass to make a change.
This doesn't mean that there haven't been a few who we can truly be proud of, who perservered and made a change, but it seems for every step forward, it is two steps back.
so it goes...
Just a quickie on the "torture works" thing:
It does, but not in the way described. The whole point of Cheney/Bush proudly declaring their love of torture is to remind We The People, not the rest of the world, that the "government" is ruthless, and also crazy. "We" torture, "we" out CIA agents, "we" lock up humans without charge indefinitely, "we" are illegally listening to your calls and reading your emails, "we" illegally invade other countries and kill millions of innocents without blinking - so "watch what you say, what you do" or ELSE, with "else" meaning you will be destroyed, whether you're a Governor of NY or an entire state, like California (energy terrorism of '01.)
Note the lack of widespread protests, civil disobedience and general monkeywrenching? That's torture working...
What is frightening is not only our more interactive and communal past has gone for many, but the present political powers are not concerned with the trends of the present. In fact they studiously ignore them. The financial crisis of their own making is a tool to belittle and impoverish the public weal. The wars are to go on forever, defying the myriad incapabilities, cost and cruelty of occupation forces. The US dollar can be printed in war cost quantities year after year without ceasing.
Climate change does not exist, or is a political inconvenience rather than a wake up call. The effects and mechanisms of economics on wage earners and impoverished is confessed as not understood by the Republican presidential candidate. That will make it easy to shut down the welfare state. Maybe its a good thing, by this article, if people have to rely on themselves and their neighbors.
But if there are no resources to work with, what can the poor do? Problems abound, but the minds shut down and revert to simple sloganistic thinking, and get occupied in media celebrity drivel. Perhaps there is no good solution set for anything, we are overwhelmed by hordes of people all trying to siphon off what is left of the good life. Nature will take its course.
War is cool. From my first G.I. Joe right up till the present with sophisticated video games, war was taught to me to be 'us versus them', 'good versus evil' and that God Blessed America and forgot about all the rest. Now we live in an age where our "special interest" directed warfare is still framed in such a way as to convince the average American that whatever war America fights, it is a just and necessary conflict. Seldom are the merits debated or the war machine beneficiaries criticized. Instead we are glued to ur T.V. sets as the MSM delivers a sanitized and biased version of the mass scale murders we are inflicting in foreign lands.
The answer is not calling for vengeance against the American public, but rather a call to enlighten the American public. Despite years of propaganda in the former Soviet Union, at least its citizenry were well aware of how to read between the lines and disseminate the truth from the BS. But in America we are under the false impression that we have a free and liberal press. While there is a free and liberal press in America, very few have ever been exposed to it. Fox News, CNN, NBC, almost ever radio show, major cosmopolitan newspapers, TIME, Newsweek, etc. continue to feed us the necessary information to prevent us from being well informed, yet while many sense that something is wrong, they flatly refuse to believe that the media drivel is intentional.
A grass roots movement must begin by exposing the MSM for what is really is… corporate propaganda designed to protect the wealth of a very small minority and redirect American anger and frustration into other areas. Why discuss bread and butter issues like your wages, the benefits of unions, universal healthcare and energy independence when the mainstream media can occupy your time with stories about sensational crime stories and misbehaving celebrities. Free classes should be set up in every community to help people differentiate between warped corporate information and REAL news. Discussion groups should emerge to help people understand why their voices are never heard in Washington and why all politicians use the language of rhetoric to avoid giving us honest answers.
When people begin laughing at the six O'clock news on FOX, cancelling their subscriptions to TIME and the Wall Street Journal and tuning into Amy Goodman on the radio, it won't take long to kick out the corporate sycophants from the Beltway and begin rebuilding a representative democracy.
This article is a bit "scholarly", but many thanks for not dumbing it down.
"Those who will not learn from history are doomed to repeat it". That has
become a cliche that borders on banality, were it not true.
What "we" (as in We the People) have "learned" is that like the serfs of Medieval Europe we don't count. Learned is in quotes because that lesson is not really true-- it just has been pounded and promoted into our heads like some fast food advertising campaign.
Power to the people is not a demand, it is a revelation. We have always had the power--we are just too distracted by a hamster in the circular cage existence most of us live to take up that power and use it.
In the temple of Mammon, the greatest blasphemy anyone can commit is to refuse to go along with "business as usual". It is past the time that more heretics need to "just say no" to the status quo. No shopping except for bare necessities, no watching commercial or "publis" TV, no driving, pay down credit card balances and keep them paid off monthly.
This our corrupt rulers understand and this will finally bring them to their knees. Once we have their attention then is the time to make demands knowing that if they say "no" we can keep ratcheting up our pressure.
But alas too often we all have been bought off and seduced into becoming the codependent enablers of our tormenters.
Thanks Galen.
I would like to add that not only has America "created the climate for truly epic suffering", but she has actively pursued and attacked and tortured those who would try to undo the unmitigated horrors this suffering is causing.
Being that the US has suffer only relatively minor disasters such as Mt. Saint Helens, Hurricane Katrina and the events of 9/11, they vast majority of the American population has NO IDEA what it means to suffer.
That last North American culture to truly suffer was the indigenous peoples who have had their own cultures almost driven to the point of genocide.
In her hubris and arrogance, America has created the climate for truly epic suffering.
And in her hubris and arrogance, maybe no other country so richly deserves to suffer.
So bend over America, bare your ass, and take it like a trooper.