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Media Hit Job of the Year: Punishing Helen Thomas For Criticizing Israel
Our Media Experienced A Few Highs and Many Lows in 2010; None As Disgraceful As The Vitriol Against Helen Thomas
In
1960, I co-founded a student magazine at Cornell University called
Dialogue. I was a wannabe journalist, fixated on emulating the
courageous media personalities of the times from Edward R. Murrow to a
distinctive figure I came to admire at Presidential press conferences, a
wire service reporter named Helen Thomas.
In recent years, my faith in the power of dialogue in politics has been severely teste—as, no doubt has hers—in an age where diatribes and calculated demonization chills debate and exchanges of opposing views.
Once you are labeled and stereotyped, especially if you are denounced as an anti-Semite, you are relegated to the fringes, pronounced a hater beyond redemption, even beyond explanation.
You have been assigned a scarlet letter as visible as the Star of David the Nazis made Jews wear.
My career path took me from covering civil rights activism in the streets to later working in the suites of network power. I went from the underground press to rock and roll radio to TV reporting and producing at CNN and ABC.
As a member in good standing of an activist generation, I saw myself more as an outsider in contrast to Helen’s distinctive credentials as an insider, as a White House bureau chief and later as the dean of the White House Correspondents Association.
Yet, beneath her establishment credentials and status, she was always an outsider too—one of nine children born to a family of Lebanese immigrants in Winchester Kentucky, who despite their Middle East origins, were Christians in the Greek Orthodox Church.
She became a pioneering woman, a modern day Helen of Troy, who broke the glass ceiling, infiltrating the clubby, mostly male, inside the beltway world of big egos and self-important media prima donnas; most supplicants to power, not challengers of it.
Her origins were more modest. She grew up in an ethnic neighborhood in Detroit. Helen received her batchelor’s degree from Wayne State University in 1942, the year I was born. Earlier this year, her alma mater which had taken so much pride in her achievements, withdrew an award in her name in a striking gesture of cowardice and submission to an incident blown out of all proportions that instantly turned Helen from a shero to a zero in a quick media second.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center—not, by the way, linked to the legendary Nazi Hunter (who was unhappy with its work), put her on their top-ten list of anti-Semites after angry remarks she made about Israel went viral and blew up into one of the major media stories of 2010.
President Barack Obama who cheerfully brought her a birthday cake, hailing her long years of service to the American people, later labeled her remarks “reprehensible.” You would think that given all the vicious slurs, Hitler comparisons and putdowns directed at him, he would be more cautious tossing slurs at others.
But no, all politicians pander to deflect criticism whenever they fear the winds of enmity will blow their way.
But now it was Helen who was being compared to Hitler in a new furor over the Fuhrer even though she says she grew up in a home that despised him, and from which her two brothers joined the army in World War ll. She says now “We didn’t do enough to expose Hitler early on. He was not just anti-Jewish. He was anti-American!”
I might add if I considered it necessary, that I grew up in a Jewish family and am proud of that identity, our culture and traditions. But that was no big thing to Helen who worked alongside Jews all of her life in the media world, many as close friends. Her main concern as a child was with non-Jews who baited her in school as a “garlic eater,” a foreigner.
She may be a critic of Israel but never a hater of Jews, a distinction the world recognizes, but that right-wing backers of the Israel lobby (and the media that backs it) refuse to accept in the name of a black/white ‘you are with us or ag’in us” ideological agenda which has no tolerance for critics, differences of opinion or the anger of the dispossessed.
They only see themselves as victims, never the people they victimize. Prejudice often infects those who live in glass houses and who are quick to condemn others.
For many years, I admired Helen from afar, and later gave her an award for Truth In Media voted by my colleagues on Mediachannel.org. She was an institution, an icon of honor. We were impressed by her history of asking tough questions even when they embarrassed Presidents.
Then, suddenly, last June, I like everyone in the world of media, was stunned to witness her public fall from grace, partly self-inflicted, perhaps because of inelegant language used in response to an ambush interview by provocateur father-son Israeli advocates posing as journalists
They were following in the footsteps of the vicious comments by Ann ("You will find liberals always rooting for savages against civilization”) Coulter who earlier denounced her as an “old Arab” sitting yards from the President as if she was threatening him. She refused to dignify that smear with a response.
I didn’t know until she told me that she had also been hounded for years by Abe Foxman, a leader of the Anti-Defamation League, who demanded she explain 25 questions she asked Presidents over the decades, “I didn’t answer,” “she told me, “because I don’t respond to junk mail.”
Foxman then sent the questions to her employer trying to get her fired, she says. Later, he recruited former Bush Press Secretary Ari Fleisher in his crusade against her. Ari and his boss disliked her “hostile” questions about Iraq on official claims that have since been unmasked as lies.
Helen always stuck to her guns. She was considered the granddame of White House journalists. Presidents respected her. She went to China with Nixon. You don’t survive in that highly visible pit of presidential polemics for as long as she did by backing down. Many correspondents assigned there turn into bulldogs for the camera. Maybe that’s why Helen can appear abrupt at times.
She has, however, always been polite enough to try to answer questions from strangers without always realizing who she was dealing with in a new world of media hit jobs, where “GOTCHA” YouTube videos thrive on recording embarrassing moments, what we used to call “bloopers.’
In her senior years, she was brought down by a kid looking for a marketable soundbyte like the one he extracted -- as if he was a big game hunter in Africa who bagged a lioness. She had been baited and took the bait. Unaware of how the video could be used, she ventilated and then regretted doing so. It was too late. That one media hit job triggered millions of online video hits.
Helen later apologized for how she said what she did without retracting the essence of her convictions. But by then, it was too late. Her long career was instantly terminated. The perception became everything; the context nothing.
She tried to be conciliatory, saying, “I deeply regret my comments I made last week regarding the Israelis and the Palestinians. They do not reflect my heart-felt belief that peace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance. May that day come soon.”
Those remarks were derided and dismissed, with the pundits and papers demanding her scalp. She had no choice but to resign after her company, her agent, her co-author and many “friends” started treating her like a pariah.
“You cannot criticize Israel in this country and survive,” she says now. She believes the Israel lobby controls the discourse on Israel. She cited, as an example, CNN firing a veteran editor in Lebanon for praising a popular cleric for his support for woman after he died. (CNN had no problems hiring Wolf Blitzer, a former executive director of AIPAC.)
I didn’t ask her but I am sure she is sympathetic to President Carter for speaking out on the issue the way he has, despite the way he was later dumped on. Once under predictable vitriolic attack began, even he was forced to back down away from some of his positions.
She was forced into retirement and thrown to the wolves in a media culture that relishes stories of personal destruction and missteps. It’s the old ‘the Media builds you up before they tear you down’ routine.
As blogger Jamie Frieze wrote, “I don't think she should have been forced to resign. After all, the freedom of speech doesn't come with the right to be comfortable. In other words, the fact that you're uncomfortable doesn't trump my free speech. Thomas made people uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean her speech should be punished.”
But punished she was
As a veteran of one kind of real journalism, she may have been inexperienced in dealing with our volatile media culture that now thrives on hostile ‘drive by’ attacks and putdowns.
When I called Helen Thomas to ask if she might be willing to share some of her thoughts on what happened, I found her as eloquent as ever, supportive of Wikileaks, critical of Grand Jury harassment in the Middle West against Palestinian supporters and angry with President Obama for his many right turns and spineless positions.
This clearly was not a mea culpa moment for her, but what has she learned from this ordeal?
While she hasn’t written about the incident she did speak to me about it for publication.
I first asked her for her view about what happened?
She was, she said, on a path outside the White House on a day in which Jewish leaders were being honored inside, at American Jewish Heritage Celebration Day, an event she said she was unaware of. A Rabbi, David Nesenoff, asked to speak to her, and introduced his two sons who he said wanted to become Journalists. (One was actually a friend of his son Adam, also his webmaster.)
“People seeking advice come to me a lot,” she explained, “and I told them about my love of journalism and that they should pursue their goals. I was gracious, and told them to go for it.”
Then the subject abruptly changed. “What you think of Israel they asked next. It was all very pleasant and I don’t blame them for asking,” she told me. But, then, she admitted, she didn’t know the people who she then said, “shoved a microphone in my face like a jack knife.”
It wasn’t just any Rabbi making conversation. Nessensoff is an ardent pro-Israel supporter who runs a website called Rabbi Live and can be a flamboyant self-promoter. He says, “even though I was born in Glen Cove and grew up in Syosset Long Island, Israel is my Jewish homeland. It is the homeland for all Jewish people.”
The Jewish Forward newspaper would later report, “Nesenoff came under scrutiny for appearing in a video depicting a man of Mexican descent pretending to give a weather forecast while a bearded rabbi in a black hat and coat stands nearby.
The four-and-a-half-minute video, titled “Holy Weather,” features Nesenoff dressed as “Father Julio Ramirez,” an outsize caricature of a Mexican priest. The rabbi makes statements that fuel stereotypes, painting Mexican laborers as dishwashers. He speaks in an exaggerated rasp of a Mexican accent, saying, among other things: “The last time I saw a map like that I was in an immigration office with three gringos down on the Mexican border, you know, right near New Mexico.” Fractured Spanish pops up from time to time, as when Nesenoff says the rabbi’s tendency to get better assignments is “no mucho bueno picnic.”
Though some critics used the skit as ammunition to portray him as a hypocrite and a racist, Nesenoff said he was dressed up because it was Purim.” God, he said, likes humor.
Israeli officials were not in a laughing mood during this period for other reasons. Fox News reported: “A senior Israeli politician tells Fox News that Israel is currently in the midst of its worst international crisis since the creation of the Jewish state. The politician, who asked not to be named in order to speak more candidly, added that for the first time Israel's legitimacy is being questioned by many in the international community.
“The official believes the lack of a viable peace process, combined with last week's Gaza-bound flotilla incident, which killed nine, has brought Israel to this situation. The Israeli public doesn't understand the severity of the situation, according to the politician. The official believes that Israelis should not react in a nationalistic way to recent events, because it is only weakening the Jewish state in this process.”
I don’t know If any of this was weighing on Helen’s mind but I do know that criticism of Israel was soon at an all time fever pitch because of the Gaza Aid Flotilla which left Turkey on the day of the “interview.”
Supporters of the humanitarian project feared Israel would attack the ships as they soon did. For media spin, Tel Aviv righteously and loudly defended its violent interception of the non-violent convoy as an act of legitimate self-defense but, later, quietly, paid compensation to the victims when the world media turned against them.
Soon, there would protests worldwide and furious exchanges in the media. Much of it was very emotional. There was also anger at President Obama for not denouncing Israel’s intervention on the high seas. But, by that time, Helen Thomas was silenced and silent.
(In some outlets, the incident “outing” Helen was used, bizarrely, as pro-Israel “balance” to show why Israel must act tough.)
Back at the North Lawn that day at the White House, Helen, who must have been following these evolving events, blew a fuse, or at least lost her usually professional demeanor. Here’s the now infamous exchange videotaped by an amateur cameraman, offering a deliberately unflattering and extreme tight close up of an 89 year-old woman.
Clearly, the question triggered something deeper in Helen, feelings that she had perhaps bottled up for many years in the White House where every reporter has a built in radar that teaches them to be careful about what they say and how they say it, especially on a subject like Israel that Helen considers a “third rail,” almost an “untouchable issue.” She earlier told one college audience, “I censored myself for 50 years when I was a reporter.” (She was then an opinion columnist and perhaps freer to speak her mind,)
Israel was not a new subject for her to comment on either. Anyone from the Arab world tends to have a very different understanding of the history there, a perspective that we rarely hear or see. It’s a narrative driven by anger ar unending Palestinian victimization.
She told me she had been in Israel in 1954 and visited the Palestinian village of Kibia that was invaded by Israel in which local residents were driven out and many killed. She told me she personally met many Palestinians forced from their homes. She is not the only one angry about this often hidden legacy, especially because many Israelis justify expelling Palestinians in biblical terms and are supported by Christian Evangelicals in saying so.
That’s ironic, isn’t it, because in our media, fanatical fundamentalists are only pictured as Muslims, rarely as Jews.
Her historic memory was clearly triggered although her views are hardly extreme. She says Israel has a right to exist, and so do Jews “like all people. But not the right to seize others lands.” She says Israel has defied 65 UN resolutions on these issues. She was frustrated when so many Presidents danced around the issues and in her view, “caved” on human rights.
To Nesenoff and many viewers oriented to see the world only through a unflinching pro-Israel narrative, Helen had crossed the line in their view from being anti-Israel to being anti-semetic. The reason: the inclusion of Poland and Germany into the mix were considered “obviously anti-Semetic.”
She agrees that by citing Germany, she opened the door to accusations of insensitivity, lumping her in with holocaust deniers, but denies being one or hating Jews. She says she was startled by that charge because she is, she says, a Semite so how can she be anti-Semetic? (Another irony: Jewish emigration to today’s Germany has increased 10 fold since the fall of the Berlin Wall to 200,000 with many leaving Israel. This “reverse exodus” troubles Israeli officials.)
Helen told me her thinking on this subject goes back to being moved by a Rabbi who spoke alongside Martin Luther King Jr at the March on Washington in 1963. I was there also, and heard him speak too, and so I looked him up.
It was Joachim Prinz of the American Jewish Congress who made a speech that influenced a younger Helen Thomas. He said, “When I was the rabbi of the Jewish community in Berlin under the Hitler regime, I learned many things. The most important thing that I learned under those tragic circumstances was that bigotry and hatred are not the most urgent problem. The most urgent, the most disgraceful, the most shameful and the most tragic problem is silence.”
Helen says her whole career has been about combating the sin of silence. She says she has now been liberated to speak out. And “all I would like is for people to know what I was trying to say, that Palestinians are living under tyranny and that their rights are being violated. All I want is some sympathy for Palestinians.”
Had she said it like that, if she had perhaps made a distinction between Israel as a State and its settlers on occupied lands, she might still have her job. Unfortunately, what she did say, and how she said it, brought all the attention on her, not the issues she was trying to expose.
Now it’s the holiday season, allegedly a time of peace and forgiveness when Presidents issue pardons to convicted criminals and reflection is theoretically permitted, a time when its been suggested that even a State Department hawk like Richard Holbrooke could, on his deathbed call for an end to the Afghan war that he had dogmatically supported.
We have watched the rehabilitation of so many politicians over recent years who have stumbled, taken money or disgraced themselves in sex scandals, including Senators, even Presidents.
Helen Thomas is not in that category.
Yet, many of those “fallen” are back in action, tarnished perhaps, but allowed to recant, to work and then appear in the media.
But, to this day, there has been almost no compassion, empathy or respect shown for one of our great journalists, Helen Thomas, who has been presumed guilty and sentenced to oblivion with barely a word spoken in her defense. She admittedly misspoke and is now officially “Missing” like some disappeared priest in Argentina
A whole world may be critical of Israel. Millions may believe that the occupiers should withdraw or that that Israeli rejectionism of the peace process must end. But when a “mainstream” American reporter of great stature touches these sentiments, she is consigned to Dante’s inferno, and turned into a non-person.
How can we expect Israelis and Palestinians to reconcile if our media won’t set an example by reconciling with Helen Thomas?
In recent years, my faith in the power of dialogue in politics has been severely teste—as, no doubt has hers—in an age where diatribes and calculated demonization chills debate and exchanges of opposing views.
Once you are labeled and stereotyped, especially if you are denounced as an anti-Semite, you are relegated to the fringes, pronounced a hater beyond redemption, even beyond explanation.
You have been assigned a scarlet letter as visible as the Star of David the Nazis made Jews wear.
My career path took me from covering civil rights activism in the streets to later working in the suites of network power. I went from the underground press to rock and roll radio to TV reporting and producing at CNN and ABC.
As a member in good standing of an activist generation, I saw myself more as an outsider in contrast to Helen’s distinctive credentials as an insider, as a White House bureau chief and later as the dean of the White House Correspondents Association.
Yet, beneath her establishment credentials and status, she was always an outsider too—one of nine children born to a family of Lebanese immigrants in Winchester Kentucky, who despite their Middle East origins, were Christians in the Greek Orthodox Church.
She became a pioneering woman, a modern day Helen of Troy, who broke the glass ceiling, infiltrating the clubby, mostly male, inside the beltway world of big egos and self-important media prima donnas; most supplicants to power, not challengers of it.
Her origins were more modest. She grew up in an ethnic neighborhood in Detroit. Helen received her batchelor’s degree from Wayne State University in 1942, the year I was born. Earlier this year, her alma mater which had taken so much pride in her achievements, withdrew an award in her name in a striking gesture of cowardice and submission to an incident blown out of all proportions that instantly turned Helen from a shero to a zero in a quick media second.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center—not, by the way, linked to the legendary Nazi Hunter (who was unhappy with its work), put her on their top-ten list of anti-Semites after angry remarks she made about Israel went viral and blew up into one of the major media stories of 2010.
President Barack Obama who cheerfully brought her a birthday cake, hailing her long years of service to the American people, later labeled her remarks “reprehensible.” You would think that given all the vicious slurs, Hitler comparisons and putdowns directed at him, he would be more cautious tossing slurs at others.
But no, all politicians pander to deflect criticism whenever they fear the winds of enmity will blow their way.
But now it was Helen who was being compared to Hitler in a new furor over the Fuhrer even though she says she grew up in a home that despised him, and from which her two brothers joined the army in World War ll. She says now “We didn’t do enough to expose Hitler early on. He was not just anti-Jewish. He was anti-American!”
I might add if I considered it necessary, that I grew up in a Jewish family and am proud of that identity, our culture and traditions. But that was no big thing to Helen who worked alongside Jews all of her life in the media world, many as close friends. Her main concern as a child was with non-Jews who baited her in school as a “garlic eater,” a foreigner.
She may be a critic of Israel but never a hater of Jews, a distinction the world recognizes, but that right-wing backers of the Israel lobby (and the media that backs it) refuse to accept in the name of a black/white ‘you are with us or ag’in us” ideological agenda which has no tolerance for critics, differences of opinion or the anger of the dispossessed.
They only see themselves as victims, never the people they victimize. Prejudice often infects those who live in glass houses and who are quick to condemn others.
For many years, I admired Helen from afar, and later gave her an award for Truth In Media voted by my colleagues on Mediachannel.org. She was an institution, an icon of honor. We were impressed by her history of asking tough questions even when they embarrassed Presidents.
Then, suddenly, last June, I like everyone in the world of media, was stunned to witness her public fall from grace, partly self-inflicted, perhaps because of inelegant language used in response to an ambush interview by provocateur father-son Israeli advocates posing as journalists
They were following in the footsteps of the vicious comments by Ann ("You will find liberals always rooting for savages against civilization”) Coulter who earlier denounced her as an “old Arab” sitting yards from the President as if she was threatening him. She refused to dignify that smear with a response.
I didn’t know until she told me that she had also been hounded for years by Abe Foxman, a leader of the Anti-Defamation League, who demanded she explain 25 questions she asked Presidents over the decades, “I didn’t answer,” “she told me, “because I don’t respond to junk mail.”
Foxman then sent the questions to her employer trying to get her fired, she says. Later, he recruited former Bush Press Secretary Ari Fleisher in his crusade against her. Ari and his boss disliked her “hostile” questions about Iraq on official claims that have since been unmasked as lies.
Helen always stuck to her guns. She was considered the granddame of White House journalists. Presidents respected her. She went to China with Nixon. You don’t survive in that highly visible pit of presidential polemics for as long as she did by backing down. Many correspondents assigned there turn into bulldogs for the camera. Maybe that’s why Helen can appear abrupt at times.
She has, however, always been polite enough to try to answer questions from strangers without always realizing who she was dealing with in a new world of media hit jobs, where “GOTCHA” YouTube videos thrive on recording embarrassing moments, what we used to call “bloopers.’
In her senior years, she was brought down by a kid looking for a marketable soundbyte like the one he extracted -- as if he was a big game hunter in Africa who bagged a lioness. She had been baited and took the bait. Unaware of how the video could be used, she ventilated and then regretted doing so. It was too late. That one media hit job triggered millions of online video hits.
Helen later apologized for how she said what she did without retracting the essence of her convictions. But by then, it was too late. Her long career was instantly terminated. The perception became everything; the context nothing.
She tried to be conciliatory, saying, “I deeply regret my comments I made last week regarding the Israelis and the Palestinians. They do not reflect my heart-felt belief that peace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance. May that day come soon.”
Those remarks were derided and dismissed, with the pundits and papers demanding her scalp. She had no choice but to resign after her company, her agent, her co-author and many “friends” started treating her like a pariah.
“You cannot criticize Israel in this country and survive,” she says now. She believes the Israel lobby controls the discourse on Israel. She cited, as an example, CNN firing a veteran editor in Lebanon for praising a popular cleric for his support for woman after he died. (CNN had no problems hiring Wolf Blitzer, a former executive director of AIPAC.)
I didn’t ask her but I am sure she is sympathetic to President Carter for speaking out on the issue the way he has, despite the way he was later dumped on. Once under predictable vitriolic attack began, even he was forced to back down away from some of his positions.
She was forced into retirement and thrown to the wolves in a media culture that relishes stories of personal destruction and missteps. It’s the old ‘the Media builds you up before they tear you down’ routine.
As blogger Jamie Frieze wrote, “I don't think she should have been forced to resign. After all, the freedom of speech doesn't come with the right to be comfortable. In other words, the fact that you're uncomfortable doesn't trump my free speech. Thomas made people uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean her speech should be punished.”
But punished she was
As a veteran of one kind of real journalism, she may have been inexperienced in dealing with our volatile media culture that now thrives on hostile ‘drive by’ attacks and putdowns.
When I called Helen Thomas to ask if she might be willing to share some of her thoughts on what happened, I found her as eloquent as ever, supportive of Wikileaks, critical of Grand Jury harassment in the Middle West against Palestinian supporters and angry with President Obama for his many right turns and spineless positions.
This clearly was not a mea culpa moment for her, but what has she learned from this ordeal?
While she hasn’t written about the incident she did speak to me about it for publication.
I first asked her for her view about what happened?
She was, she said, on a path outside the White House on a day in which Jewish leaders were being honored inside, at American Jewish Heritage Celebration Day, an event she said she was unaware of. A Rabbi, David Nesenoff, asked to speak to her, and introduced his two sons who he said wanted to become Journalists. (One was actually a friend of his son Adam, also his webmaster.)
“People seeking advice come to me a lot,” she explained, “and I told them about my love of journalism and that they should pursue their goals. I was gracious, and told them to go for it.”
Then the subject abruptly changed. “What you think of Israel they asked next. It was all very pleasant and I don’t blame them for asking,” she told me. But, then, she admitted, she didn’t know the people who she then said, “shoved a microphone in my face like a jack knife.”
It wasn’t just any Rabbi making conversation. Nessensoff is an ardent pro-Israel supporter who runs a website called Rabbi Live and can be a flamboyant self-promoter. He says, “even though I was born in Glen Cove and grew up in Syosset Long Island, Israel is my Jewish homeland. It is the homeland for all Jewish people.”
The Jewish Forward newspaper would later report, “Nesenoff came under scrutiny for appearing in a video depicting a man of Mexican descent pretending to give a weather forecast while a bearded rabbi in a black hat and coat stands nearby.
The four-and-a-half-minute video, titled “Holy Weather,” features Nesenoff dressed as “Father Julio Ramirez,” an outsize caricature of a Mexican priest. The rabbi makes statements that fuel stereotypes, painting Mexican laborers as dishwashers. He speaks in an exaggerated rasp of a Mexican accent, saying, among other things: “The last time I saw a map like that I was in an immigration office with three gringos down on the Mexican border, you know, right near New Mexico.” Fractured Spanish pops up from time to time, as when Nesenoff says the rabbi’s tendency to get better assignments is “no mucho bueno picnic.”
Though some critics used the skit as ammunition to portray him as a hypocrite and a racist, Nesenoff said he was dressed up because it was Purim.” God, he said, likes humor.
Israeli officials were not in a laughing mood during this period for other reasons. Fox News reported: “A senior Israeli politician tells Fox News that Israel is currently in the midst of its worst international crisis since the creation of the Jewish state. The politician, who asked not to be named in order to speak more candidly, added that for the first time Israel's legitimacy is being questioned by many in the international community.
“The official believes the lack of a viable peace process, combined with last week's Gaza-bound flotilla incident, which killed nine, has brought Israel to this situation. The Israeli public doesn't understand the severity of the situation, according to the politician. The official believes that Israelis should not react in a nationalistic way to recent events, because it is only weakening the Jewish state in this process.”
I don’t know If any of this was weighing on Helen’s mind but I do know that criticism of Israel was soon at an all time fever pitch because of the Gaza Aid Flotilla which left Turkey on the day of the “interview.”
Supporters of the humanitarian project feared Israel would attack the ships as they soon did. For media spin, Tel Aviv righteously and loudly defended its violent interception of the non-violent convoy as an act of legitimate self-defense but, later, quietly, paid compensation to the victims when the world media turned against them.
Soon, there would protests worldwide and furious exchanges in the media. Much of it was very emotional. There was also anger at President Obama for not denouncing Israel’s intervention on the high seas. But, by that time, Helen Thomas was silenced and silent.
(In some outlets, the incident “outing” Helen was used, bizarrely, as pro-Israel “balance” to show why Israel must act tough.)
Back at the North Lawn that day at the White House, Helen, who must have been following these evolving events, blew a fuse, or at least lost her usually professional demeanor. Here’s the now infamous exchange videotaped by an amateur cameraman, offering a deliberately unflattering and extreme tight close up of an 89 year-old woman.
Nesenoff: Any comments on Israel? We're asking everybod today, any comments on Israel?Nesenoff does not repeat her use of America, but only to Poland and German. He has nothing to say about her reference to occupation.
Thomas: Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine.
Nesenoff: Oooh. Any better comments on Israel?
Thomas: Remember, these people are occupied and it's their land. It's not German, it's not Poland ...
Nesenoff: So where should they go, what should they do?
Thomas: They go home.
Nesenoff: Where's the home?
Thomas: Poland, Germany and America and everywhere else.
Nesenoff: So you're saying the Jews go back to Poland and Germany?
Thomas: And America and everywhere else. Why push people out of there who have lived there for centuries? See?
Clearly, the question triggered something deeper in Helen, feelings that she had perhaps bottled up for many years in the White House where every reporter has a built in radar that teaches them to be careful about what they say and how they say it, especially on a subject like Israel that Helen considers a “third rail,” almost an “untouchable issue.” She earlier told one college audience, “I censored myself for 50 years when I was a reporter.” (She was then an opinion columnist and perhaps freer to speak her mind,)
Israel was not a new subject for her to comment on either. Anyone from the Arab world tends to have a very different understanding of the history there, a perspective that we rarely hear or see. It’s a narrative driven by anger ar unending Palestinian victimization.
She told me she had been in Israel in 1954 and visited the Palestinian village of Kibia that was invaded by Israel in which local residents were driven out and many killed. She told me she personally met many Palestinians forced from their homes. She is not the only one angry about this often hidden legacy, especially because many Israelis justify expelling Palestinians in biblical terms and are supported by Christian Evangelicals in saying so.
That’s ironic, isn’t it, because in our media, fanatical fundamentalists are only pictured as Muslims, rarely as Jews.
Her historic memory was clearly triggered although her views are hardly extreme. She says Israel has a right to exist, and so do Jews “like all people. But not the right to seize others lands.” She says Israel has defied 65 UN resolutions on these issues. She was frustrated when so many Presidents danced around the issues and in her view, “caved” on human rights.
To Nesenoff and many viewers oriented to see the world only through a unflinching pro-Israel narrative, Helen had crossed the line in their view from being anti-Israel to being anti-semetic. The reason: the inclusion of Poland and Germany into the mix were considered “obviously anti-Semetic.”
She agrees that by citing Germany, she opened the door to accusations of insensitivity, lumping her in with holocaust deniers, but denies being one or hating Jews. She says she was startled by that charge because she is, she says, a Semite so how can she be anti-Semetic? (Another irony: Jewish emigration to today’s Germany has increased 10 fold since the fall of the Berlin Wall to 200,000 with many leaving Israel. This “reverse exodus” troubles Israeli officials.)
Helen told me her thinking on this subject goes back to being moved by a Rabbi who spoke alongside Martin Luther King Jr at the March on Washington in 1963. I was there also, and heard him speak too, and so I looked him up.
It was Joachim Prinz of the American Jewish Congress who made a speech that influenced a younger Helen Thomas. He said, “When I was the rabbi of the Jewish community in Berlin under the Hitler regime, I learned many things. The most important thing that I learned under those tragic circumstances was that bigotry and hatred are not the most urgent problem. The most urgent, the most disgraceful, the most shameful and the most tragic problem is silence.”
Helen says her whole career has been about combating the sin of silence. She says she has now been liberated to speak out. And “all I would like is for people to know what I was trying to say, that Palestinians are living under tyranny and that their rights are being violated. All I want is some sympathy for Palestinians.”
Had she said it like that, if she had perhaps made a distinction between Israel as a State and its settlers on occupied lands, she might still have her job. Unfortunately, what she did say, and how she said it, brought all the attention on her, not the issues she was trying to expose.
Now it’s the holiday season, allegedly a time of peace and forgiveness when Presidents issue pardons to convicted criminals and reflection is theoretically permitted, a time when its been suggested that even a State Department hawk like Richard Holbrooke could, on his deathbed call for an end to the Afghan war that he had dogmatically supported.
We have watched the rehabilitation of so many politicians over recent years who have stumbled, taken money or disgraced themselves in sex scandals, including Senators, even Presidents.
Helen Thomas is not in that category.
Yet, many of those “fallen” are back in action, tarnished perhaps, but allowed to recant, to work and then appear in the media.
But, to this day, there has been almost no compassion, empathy or respect shown for one of our great journalists, Helen Thomas, who has been presumed guilty and sentenced to oblivion with barely a word spoken in her defense. She admittedly misspoke and is now officially “Missing” like some disappeared priest in Argentina
A whole world may be critical of Israel. Millions may believe that the occupiers should withdraw or that that Israeli rejectionism of the peace process must end. But when a “mainstream” American reporter of great stature touches these sentiments, she is consigned to Dante’s inferno, and turned into a non-person.
How can we expect Israelis and Palestinians to reconcile if our media won’t set an example by reconciling with Helen Thomas?
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Show AllIBRAHIMAV: "we all heard her words."???
No. You did not. Helen has many, many things to say. You should LISTEN. With empathy.
I see what's going on now. Ibrahimav will post hasbara monkey-manure, people will respond with truth-justice posts, piggybacking on each other, taking valuable time to make good arguments, and then he'll scrub his original post, dragging everyone else's with it. It's their "samson option."
She is one Grande Dame. Helen enjoy your retirement, you have earned it. Thanks Danny for an excellent article that sets her record straight.
A bucket of camel fleas for her detractors.
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
Not to justify and defend the disgraceful treatment and firing of Helen Thomas, which was shameful, and vicious on the face of it, but this:
"if she had perhaps made a distinction between Israel as a State and its settlers on occupied lands, she might still have her job. Unfortunately, what she did say, and how she said it, brought all the attention on her, not the issues she was trying to expose."
is something that I wholeheartedly agree with.
The issues Helen was attempting to critique were the same as those of the holocaust survivors who taught me about prejudice, discrimination and political terror and related it to the abuse of african-americans in the US. Helen critiques the same behaviors perpetrated by israelis against Palestinians.
Sound bites do not silence her message. It is loud and clear. Oppression is immoral. No matter who the perpetrator may be.
I see what you're saying, Iowapinko, but the way in which a person conveys his or her message is of equal importance here.
A couple of things:
First, please don't misunderstand me as judging or bashing Helen because this woman has my admiration ...
The words "no choice but to resign" need to be eradicated from our lexicon. Resigning is an action of resignation, a surrender. Let the f^c#ers go through with their action of firing.
'... told me that she had also been hounded for years by Abe Foxman, a leader of the Anti-Defamation League, who demanded she explain 25 questions she asked Presidents over the decades, “I didn’t answer,” “she told me, “because I don’t respond to junk mail.” '
Refusing to engage in a response was unfortunately and effectively a shutting down of conversation. Who knows, MAYBE it could have been an OPPORTUNITY toward communication that will eventually bring about peace in the Middle East. Helen could have written her reasoned responses to the 25 questions and then maybe the response she later made spontaneously couldn't have been so effectively used against her.
We ALL need to start being less "careful about what we say and how we say it" and more firm about averring the simple truth.
No offense, but Foxman is a would-be Grand Inquisitor of Anti-Semitism, in the tradition of self-promoting Grand Inquisitors like Senator Joseph McCarthy and Catholic League president Bill Donohue.
Whatever their forked tongues may say to the contrary, they are manifestly uninterested in promoting dialogue, understanding, and mutual respect. They have a fixed and rigid ideology and agenda, and are only interested in "gotchas".
Ms. Thomas is quite right to believe that she has no obligation to "explain herself" to such Inquisitors; for one thing, it only dignifies their conceit that they are an Authority with the right and duty to make their specious inquiries.
Ironically, Thomas' disdainful attitude toward Foxman manifests the caution and prudence that she's been criticized for forgetting or abandoning during her impromptu remarks during the "sting" interview!
Once one kow-tows to the likes of a Foxman, one is vulnerable to further Inquisitions at the whims and caprices of the Inquisitor. Furthermore, despite the superficial pretense of good faith, it's obvious that if she DID respond, said response would be mercilessly scrutinized for any "slips" or disclosures that confirm (in Foxman's and fellow-traveler's minds) Thomas' unacceptable "anti-Semitism".
Ms. Thomas may have let her guard down during that unfortunate encounter on the street, but she knows a trap when she sees one.
OS, regarding Foxman, you are absolutely correct and said it far better than I could. She should not lower herself to respond to that SOB. Having dealt with him first hand, I think Foxman is a dangerous man and one scary dude.
Thanks OS, I don't doubt it, and did make my post without knowing anything about him.
The second paragraph here is part of a longer post below and I acknowledge that we need to speak our but Helen did for years with lots of crap coming her way. She did it but there comes a time when maybe you don't want to commit suicide.
And to Donnalou....if you have never been subject to the public shaming and shunning that can happen if you cross certain types in power you don't really know what "forced to resign" means. I have experienced it and without vast sums of money you can't fight the papers and the local tv affiliates if they are out to get you. They have a gang mentality and will go after someone en masse and any truth you may speak will be collectively distorted by them as they agree with each they are so far above it all and objective and they must be right. She was wise to get off the scene as a old woman with limited means facing the very organized power of the likes of AIPAC. I don't believe she is an anti semite or against jews, I think she was frustrated by the plight of the Palestinians and the dishonesty in the USA and Israel around this issue as are many others.
Thanks artemix.
But how do we start to stand up to these people?
Actually, there is no distinction between "Israel as a state and its settlers on occupied lands." The entire state of Israel was created by European-Jewish adventurers on occupied Arab lands.
Amen, and thanks. Thomas went much too far in her call for the ending of the State of Israel and got her long overdue retirement for it. Sad that a long and very distinguished career ended on such a sour note.
That the USA commits atrocities around the world is a truth. That no one calls for the ending of the USA as a nation while calling for an end to those actions seems reasonable enough. Yet many support Thomas' call for an end to the state of Israel.
Ive no idea what you are ranting about, and I am far from riled up. Perhaps you should refrain from posting when stoned? My opinion remains as I posted it; I respect the body of work of Ms. Thomas and think that her call for the abolition of the State of Israel an unfortunate remark that could not pass or be excused.
Again, Ive no clue about your post, which seems more than a bit on the adolescent side actually and certainly doesn't spur me to debate one who posts childish threats and boasts.But then, why take someone named after a rather poor quality men's perfume with any degree of seriousness?
I suspect you are an emotionally sub par teenager, all that boasting sans fact. Thomas did indeed call for an end to the State of Israel. Her words were,"they should go back where they came from, Poland, Germany wherever". OOOH you are going to be on the radio.....one of those toys folks give to kids, Rush Limbaugh got his start that way you know. Grow the f**k up.
Hows that acne?
"Unfortunately, what she did say, and how she said it, brought all the attention on her, not the issues she was trying to expose."
As if many, many had not already trued to expose this "issue", from Jimmy Carter to Judge Goldstone, to no effect.
And, I challege you to find an Israeli,or any but a small minority of US Jews, who make a distinction between Israel, the occupied lands, and Judaism itself.
Helen was set up and 'assassinated' by Zionists so that Rupert Murdoch could replace her with one of his own at Whitehouse briefings. And so it goes...no more 'difficult' questions for the Leader.
A dedicated White House reporter for decades - since Eisenhower. Always there. Always intelligent, often insightful. She challenged eleven Presidents on a host of issues.
But ONE anti-zionist comment and she is declared unclean and is abandoned by the political and media elite.
Is mere rhetorical questioning of Israel's right to exist now verboten for all Real Americans (TM) on the orders of Homeland Zecurity? Perhaps anti-zionism can be framed as giving moral support to the terrorists? I'm sure you could round up 50 congressional co-sponsors for that designation if AIPAC got behind it.
Helen was banned from the imperial press corps for defying Zionism, and that's a shame. Even if her comments were belligerent, they were still just criticism of a FORIEGN nation.
Denying Palestinian basic rights of existence is oaky, and a distinct nation is an essential tenet of zionism and pillar of the zionist imperialist myth and would not get you fired from the imperial press corps.
The blatant double standard is foul and should disgust anyone concerned with truth, peace and freedom of speech, especially political speech regarding the conduct of foriegn nations and their influence in Washington.
Rahm fought with the Isreali army and Ari patrols Hollywood for the zionist mafia, but that's not career killing bias. But mere words of attack on zionism and Helen is labeled a dirty bigot.
Regarding her "forced resignation", I see no disgrace there. I get the sense that a handler made her an offer that she couldn't refuse.
Can't blame her for that.
I did send an email to the 'rabbi live'. It was short, I doubt it'll get on his 'hate mail' list. In looking over his website I noticed that he seems to want to provoke racist remarks in order to justify his own racist beliefs.
If others hate him, (from what I think his pov is) than he feels he has the absolute right to hate others. A sad and bitter thug.
Thank you so much for this article. Helen did not deserve what happened to her.
The Helen thomas and assange affairs show just how far the government is willing to go to crush the truth. It also shows that if one decides to align themselves with truth without regard for consequences, then be prepared for your friends, family and nation to turn against you. We have become a society married to lies. the denial of this is so great that when those lies are exposed, one would do anything to protect the investment one has put into their identity.
I love your post. I feel like printing out the last two sentences and framing it. I wish the last sentence was grammatically perfect, though. I might reword it. I wont touch "We have become a society married to lies.". It is perfect.
Thanks, please excuse my poor grammar. My 'excuse' is that, i was ejected from english class in the eighth grade, due to very bad behavior and never finished english, before i was finally 'asked' to leave high school and never return.
The above explanation, is a case in point. LOL . If you happen to read this, would you explain to me what is incorrect in the last two sentences. Keep in mind, i don't even know the basics.
Interesting isn't it? How few comments appear in defense of Helen Thomas!
She had more testosterone than all the males put together in the White House press core!
An injustice is an injustice, not matter how poorly this injustice is expressed. What Israel is doing to the Palestinians is an injustice no matter how much crap they throw at you for saying so!
I'm a great believer of what goes around comes around, I hope to live to see the day that these injustices are no more and those responsible are punished. As Sharon for example........
God bless you Helen!
"How few comments appear to be in defense of Helen Thomas."
Look up!
There were only 12 comments when I stated this!
I was just being playful. No criticism intended.
Bravo, Danny! I, and my old journalism buddies at the University of Minnesota’s Minnesota Daily and at the Bridgeport Post (Conn.) applaud you for focusing on Helen Thomas, also one of my heroes as I grew up in front of the TV watching her ask pointed, tough questions that JFK would handle without ease but with humor and LBJ would handle with discomfort.
Unlike the piranhas that pass for lawyers and who supposedly are professionals working under an American Bar Association code of procedure—which is blithely ignored in this lawless country--the Society of Professional Journalists (SPR) states that it is dedicated to the perpetuation of a free press as the cornerstone of our nation and our liberty. But it has no formal censory code.
Questions about journalism’s status as a profession were valid in the mid-1970s and into the early 80s. But even having to raise those questions in the first place blithely ignores the constitutionally defined role of the press in this nation, and how vital that role is to the strength of democracy, as I have written in my new-york-commoners-law.com and dons-review.com sites.
The SPR does not have the elaborate list of commandments that the lawyer’s New York Lawyer's Code of Professional Responsibility has. It hasn’t items that cover everything from: DR 2-106: Fees for Legal Services to DR 5-110: Sexual Relations with Clients to DR 8-102: Statements Concerning Judges and Other Adjudicatory Officers to Disciplinary Rule 9 - Client Funds and Property.
It's not that journalists, especially professional journalists and the so-called mainstream journalists like Helen Thomas (not the new-breed citizen journalist on the Internet’s Web blogs) don't deserve such vigilance or recognition. Afterall, it is unequivocally true that covering government issues and lack of openness by the government occupies as pivotal a space among press duties as anything else. It's what we, in the news business, do and, indeed, why we exist.
But the Society of Professional Journalists has no disciplinary rules. The SPR has no elaborate code. Anyone can become a mainstream journalist, if they can write. They could have a grade school education or a Ph.D.
As a reporter in the late 1970s and early 80s, I and my buddies loved “beating” the competition to a story and getting the truth behind Minneapolis or Bridgeport, Conn.-area politics. Our motto was “you’re not doing your job (as a reporter) unless someone is mad at you” (for exposing the truth behind his faux program for the common person or for telling the people about his secret, backroom meeting with so and so after the “open” meeting for the public.)
In Danny’s interview, “Helen says her whole career has been about combating the sin of silence. She says she has now been liberated to speak out. And ‘all I would like is for people to know what I was trying to say, that Palestinians are living under tyranny and that their rights are being violated. All I want is some sympathy for Palestinians.’
“Had she said it like that, if she had perhaps made a distinction between Israel as a State and its settlers on occupied lands, she might still have her job. Unfortunately, what she did say, and how she said it, brought all the attention on her, not the issues she was trying to expose.
“Now it’s the holiday season, allegedly a time of peace and forgiveness when Presidents issue pardons to convicted criminals and reflection is theoretically permitted. We have watched the rehabilitation of so many politicians over recent years who have stumbled, taken money or disgraced themselves in sex scandals, including Senators, even Presidents.
“Helen Thomas is not in that category.
“Yet, many of those “fallen” are back in action, tarnished perhaps, but allowed to recant, to work and then appear in the media.
“But, to this day, there has been almost no compassion, empathy or respect shown for one of our great journalists, Helen Thomas, who has been presumed guilty and sentenced to oblivion with barely a word spoken in her defense. She admittedly misspoke and is now officially ‘Missing’ like some disappeared priest in Argentina.”
Bravo, again, Danny. And, of course, Ms. Thomas, Brava to you. Perhaps your name could head-up a social group on the Internet dedicated to your principles and those of my Minnesota and Bridgeport journalism buddies.
Helen Thomas engaged in what was, in the 60s, referred to as "speaking truth to power." Julian Assange continues that legacy. The powers that be are getting increasingly violent; an 89 year old woman was simple to deal with; they are ratcheting things up. Anyone wanting to criticize the style of either one of them can take their lesson from watching the responses of the powerful to being challenged.
Good to see that someone in America has the courage to stand up for Helen Thomas and attack the particular brand of anti-semitism which she has been subjected to. Her Lebanese ancestry, apparently, can never be forgotten and this is what made her frank and honest opinion of Israel's disgraceful treatment of the Palestinians particularly vulnerable to attack. She should not be abandoned to the pro-Israel lobby's vengeance, nor should the Palestinians. The dishonesty with which this debate is pursued in the West should make us all ashamed - instead we commit the sin of silence.
seems someone's been banned.
Comment that was a reply to him is deleted.
Without Helen Thomas, it might more accurately be known as the White House Press Corpse.
Thanks Danny for setting the record a little clearer on the great Helen Thomas. I had the opportunity through Vermont Woman to hear her speak on two occasions and she was always enlightening and encouraging of speaking truth to power. She could have chosen her words better but even the ones she did use were distorted by the little twerp looking for a scalp.
Thanks for reminding people of her long years of real journalism, something gone from our press corps existing now only in Firedoglake and Hullaballoo and other places on the net.
And to Donnalou....if you have never been subject to the public shaming and shunning that can happen if you cross certain types in power you don't really know what "forced to resign" means. I have experienced it and without vast sums of money you can't fight the papers and the local tv affiliates if they are out to get you. They have a gang mentality and will go after someone en masse and any truth you may speak will be collectively distorted by them as they agree with each they are so far above it all and objective and they must be right. She was wise to get off the scene as a old woman with limited means facing the very organized power of the likes of AIPAC. I don't believe she is an anti semite or against jews, I think she was frustrated by the plight of the Palestinians and the dishonesty in the USA and Israel around this issue as are many others.
What happened to Helen Thomas is revelatory of the vicious and depraved political culture so dominated by those who have no morals nor scruples in the defense of the indefensible.
Not to make this about Obama, but it also reflects on him as well just like the Shirley Sherrod episode. He would even throw his parents under the bus if they were still alive to protect his own hide.
For those who have a heart, listen well, and can discern reality, Helen Thomas remains the one of the greatest American journalists of the 20th century. No one even comes close.
I agree, Ceti. I was just thinking about the many people Obama has thrown under the bus, for the sake of his glory and ambition: Reverend Wright, Van Jones, Shirley Sherrod, Greg Craig, Helen Thomas... I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting. I often wonder how his mother, who lost her battle with cancer, would have felt about him reneging on his pledge to include a public option in the health insurance "reform" legislation. I also wonder how he sleeps at night (which assumes his conscience bothers him, when in fact, he probably has no conscience).
What the heck? I didn't post that statement in reply to the above person. I posted it in reply to Ibrahimav...
Apologies and deleted.
Don't feed a troll.
Can't... Troll's posts are gone. :)
A whole group of comments, including mine, got "disappeared." I think the original comment was flagged, and everything following in response got deleted. But I reiterate my support for Helen Thomas. She had every right to express her opinion on the Palestinians' plight, and those who have sought to silence and shame her should themselves be ashamed.
I went looking, two rather hostile trolls are no longer visible. I suspect they flagged the posts they didn't agree with (yet couldn't argue against effectively) and got themselves booted for being too bothersome. I know that two of my posts got moved from where they were to where they now are.
I won't miss what I said to either of them, I'm sure they'll just change their usernames and return again; like a case of ...
Helen is already missed. She is a great human.
As a journalist, I commend Helen Thomas on being the most courageous and honest of all journalists in this country. Jews-- even a rabbi-- try to make something else of her. While she works with honesty, they go after her with their duplicity. Wayne State, her alma mater, does not deserve her. = George Beres in Oregon
I admire Helen Thomas greatly. She's a courageous, intelligent journalist, unafraid to speak the truth and unafraid to press lying politicans for the truth.
I've thought a great deal about the statements she made that led to her professional demise and all I can say is "what was she thinking?" To say to any Jewish person that they should go to "Poland, Germany and America and everywhere else," when you consider why those Jews who left Germany and Poland with just the shirts on their backs did so, is beyond insensitive, it's absolutely idiotic.
To holocaust survivors, their children, and their children's children, the idea that anyone would suggest Jews return to the scenes of genocide, Helen's statements must have been stunning.
Should she be forgiven? Of course. Should her explanations be accepted? Of course. Is she anti-Jewish? Probably no more than anyone else who isn't Jewish and doesn't understand Judaism and the Jewish experience. We've lost a great journalist and for that I'm sad. But what was she thinking???
Thomas' first reply was "Tell ‘em to get the hell out of Palestine."
Palestine. P-A-L-E-S-T-I-N-E. OCCUPIED Palestine. Not "Israel"-- I-S-R-A-E-L.
And since Thomas is well-informed and nobody's fool, it's reasonable to assume that the "'em" refers to the mostly-European settlers who emigrated to Israel long after the original Holocaust generation, and have illegally expropriated Palestinian land in accordance with the Israeli government's expansionist policy.
To those steeped in Zionist myth, hype, and assiduous marketing, it's a distinction without a difference.
This isn't to say that her spontaneous, even careless, phrasing isn't ripe for misunderstanding and interpretation. In a dim light, and with just a touch of spin that studiously ignores her precise words and their context, the comments can be made to seem just awful. Awful! Horrible!
There's no doubt that Thomas ran afoul of the dominant prejudice, but those of us who don't share it aren't so determined to mistake a molehill for a mountain.
>To say to any Jewish person that they should go to "Poland, Germany and America and everywhere else," when you consider why those Jews who left Germany and Poland with just the shirts on their backs did so, is beyond insensitive, it's absolutely idiotic.
You left out Helen's words "back where they came from" the trickster asked "where is that", then Helen said "Germany, Poland, America... wherever they came from". Her point was that they should quit-the-colonization-of-other-people's-land.
This is why her sin was so extra-bad, she cut to the heart of the matter, She said the truth that must not be spoken, that Israel is illegitimate...and not just the 'territories', the entire thing..._stolen_.
I hear what you're saying about the associations this could brings to the mind of a holocaust victim, and clearly she could have worded it in a way that was more sensitive to their feelings, but why exactly is their historical trauma any more important that the ongoing trauma of millions of innocent men, women and children being brutalized right now?
"why exactly is their historical trauma any more important that the ongoing trauma of millions of innocent men, women and children being brutalized right now?"
PERFECT! THIS SHOULD BE REPEATED TO THEM OVER AND OVER EACH TIME THEY BRING UP THE HOLOCAUST.
WELL STATED!
ONE WONDERS WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THE U.N. HAD GIVEN THESE ZIONISTS A PART OF TEXAS!
AFTER ALL THE U.S.HAD MORE EXPERIENCE AT SETTING UP "RESERVATIONS" ! AND BREAKING TREATIES!
She only spoke truth.
The secular Israeli Zionists have managed to hide behind the canard of Ant-Semitism - as a buzzword for anti-Jewish.
Judaism is NOT even a real issue - rampant Israeli Zionist land grabbing, water stealing IS!
A few years ago in New Zealand the saterist working for the largest Newspaper drew a picture of the Israeli wall with the star of david and the word Apartheid ..they published it ...Then....He was sacked ?? for depicting the truth ...I knew then that there was no such thing as freedom and democracy...HK
Many thanks to Helen for being the lone light in a dark forest. Like Danny, I too admire her for having the courage to speak her mind.
Her remarks were offensive only to the people who needed to hear them the most: Zionists and their media/government poodles.
Abe Foxman is paranoid and has an ego the size of Texas while the SWC and the ADL couldn't care less about Jews. They only get on their knees for Zionists.
Many thanks to Helen for being the lone light in a dark forest. Like Danny, I too admire her for having the courage to speak her mind.
Her remarks were offensive only to the people who needed to hear them the most: Zionists and their media/government poodles.
Abe Foxman is paranoid and has an ego the size of Texas while the SWC and the ADL couldn't care less about Jews. They only get on their knees for Zionists.