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Kick Ass or Buy Gas? How Taxpayers Are Subsidizing BP’s Disaster Through the Pentagon
Residents of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida are livid with BP in the wake of the massive, never-ending oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico -- and Barack Obama says they ought to be. But there's one aspect of the BP story that most of those angry residents of the Gulf states aren't aware of. And the president hasn't had a thing to say about it.
Even as the tar balls hit Gulf beaches, their tax dollars are subsidizing BP and so far, President Obama has not shown the slightest indication that he plans to stop their flow into BP coffers, despite the recent call of Public Citizen, a watchdog group, to end the nation's business dealings with company. In fact, the Department of Defense, which has a longstanding, multi-billion dollar business relationship with BP, tells TomDispatch that it has no plans to sever current business ties or curtail future contracts with the oil giant.
Talking Tough
In recent weeks, against a news backdrop of oil-soaked pelicans, President Obama has been talking tough. "We've ordered BP to pay economic injury claims, and we will make sure they deliver," he announced on June 1st. Days later, he rebuked the oil giant for considering plans to pay out large dividends to shareholders and for spending tens of millions of dollars on an advertising campaign to repair the company's tarnished image.
"My understanding is that BP had contracted for $50 million worth of TV advertising to manage their image in the course of this disaster," the president said. "Now, I don't have a problem with BP fulfilling its legal obligations. What I don't want to hear is that they're spending that kind of money on shareholders and spending that kind of money on TV advertising, [but] they're nickel-and-diming fishermen or small businesses here in the Gulf who are having a hard time."
As part of his ongoing attempt to deal with flak from critics who claim that his reaction to the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico has been far too measured and that his administration has mishandled its response to the disaster, Obama told NBC "Today Show" host Matt Lauer: "I don't sit around just talking to experts because this is a college seminar. We talk to these folks because they potentially have the best answers, so I know whose ass to kick."
While the president has been on the verbal warpath, the U.S. military has -- with little notice -- continued to carry on a major business partnership with BP, despite the company's disastrous environmental record.
Repeat Offenders
As an institution, the Pentagon runs on oil. Its jet fighters, bombers, tanks, Humvees, and other vehicles burn 75% of the fuel used by the Department of Defense. For example, B-52 bombers consume 47,000 gallons per mission, and when an F-16 fighter kicks in its afterburners, it burns through $300 worth of fuel a minute. In fact, according to an article in the April 2010 issue of Energy Source, the official newsletter of the Pentagon's fuel-buying component, the DoD purchases three billion gallons of jet fuel per year.
Thanks to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Department of Defense has been consuming vast quantities of fuel. According to 2008 figures, for example, U.S. military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan used a staggering 90 million gallons per month. Given the base-building boom that preceded President Obama's Afghan surge, the 2010 figures may be significantly higher.
In 2009, according to the Pentagon's Defense Energy Support Center (DESC), the military spent $3.8 billion for 31.3 million barrels -- around 1.3 billion gallons -- of oil consumed at posts, camps, and bases overseas. Moreover, DESC's bulk-fuels division, which purchases jet fuel and naval diesel fuel among other petroleum products, awarded $2.2 billion in contracts to support operations in Iraq and Afghanistan last year. Another $974 million was reportedly spent by the ground-fuels division, which awards contracts for diesel fuel, gasoline, and heating oil for ground operations, just for the war in Afghanistan in 2009.
The Pentagon's foreign wars have left it particularly heavily dependent on oil services, energy, and petroleum companies. An analysis published at Foreign Policy in Focus found that, in 2005, 145 such companies had contracts with the Pentagon. That year, the Department of Defense paid out more than $1.5 billion to BP alone and a total of $8 billion taxpayer dollars, in total, to energy-related firms on what is a far-from-complete list of companies.
In 2009, according to the Defense Energy Support Center, the military awarded $22.5 billion in energy contracts. More than $16 billion of that went to purchasing bulk fuel. Some 10 top petroleum suppliers got the lion's share, more than $11.5 billion, among them big names like Shell, Exxon Mobil and Valero. The largest contractor, however, was BP, which received more than $2.2 billion -- almost 12% of all petroleum-contract dollars awarded by the Pentagon for the year.
While one exceptionally powerful department of the federal government has been feeding money into BP (and other oil giants) with abandon, BP has consistently run afoul of U.S. government regulators from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). According to the Center for Public Integrity, "BP account[ed] for 97 percent of all flagrant violations found in the [oil] refining industry by government safety inspectors over the past three years." Records obtained by the Center demonstrate that between June 2007 and February 2010, BP received a total of 862 citations, mostly for alleged violations of "OSHA's process safety management standard, a sweeping rule governing everything from storage of flammable liquids to emergency shutdown systems." Of these citations, 760 were considered "egregious willful," which OSHA defines as a violation even more severe than those committed due to "plain indifference" or evidencing "intentional disregard for employee health and safety." As a result, BP faces $90 million in penalties which the company is currently contesting.
Over those same years, BP received around $5.7 billion in federal contracts, according to official government data. In fact, the $2.2 billion the Pentagon paid to the oil giant in 2009 accounted for almost 16% of the company's nearly $14 billion in annual profits.
This fiscal year, the U.S. military has already awarded the company more than $837 million, inking its latest deal with BP in March.
The Pentagon's Green Revolution
In recent years, the gas-guzzling Pentagon has launched a major effort to invest in developing green technology -- or at least give the appearance of doing so -- with, at best, mixed results. As defense-tech writer Noah Shachtman has pointed out, the military is "now focusing on algal feedstock for biofuel and next-generation solar panels. One of the world's largest solar-power projects is planned for the Army's main training center, at Fort Irwin, Calif. Billions in stimulus money were spent to green military facilities."
But efforts in the Bush years to develop "green" vehicles generally stalled, flopped, or barely got rolling. Under the Obama administration, more ambitious goals have been set, but tangible results are still lacking. Last year, the military's contracts for renewable fuels derived from algae, according to DESC, added up to less than 22,000 gallons.
One major reason for this, Shachtman writes, is that "the current systems for delivering power and fuel to war zones are reliable, if inefficient and unsustainable. Military leaders," he adds "don't want to jeopardize operations in Afghanistan or Iraq for something perceived as experimental or risky." As a result, whatever solar panels it has installed or renewable jet fuel it has purchased, the Pentagon remains dependent on buying huge amounts of petroleum products from BP and other large energy corporations, and when it comes to war-making, any substantive reduction in oil dependence appears far off indeed.
Nonetheless, the Department of Defense has devoted significant resources to publicizing its green efforts. The commander-in-chief has even lent a hand. On March 31st, President Obama stood in front of a "green" F-18 Hornet fighter designed to run partly on bio-fuels and announced to the nation that he was proposing to open large new areas off the Atlantic coastline, the eastern Gulf of Mexico, and the north coast of Alaska to oil and natural gas drilling. Less than a month later, the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded in the Gulf of Mexico.
In the weeks since, despite Obama's tough talk, his reported "anger and frustration," and his efforts to identify the proper "ass to kick," as well as the Pentagon's much-touted green-energy initiative, the U.S. military continues, as Shachtman points out, to burn "22 gallons of diesel [fuel] per soldier per day in Afghanistan, at a cost of more than $100,000 a person annually."
In other words, as a direct result of war-making in distant lands, taxpayer dollars, including those from Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, will continue to flow into BP coffers, even as more wildlife dies, more beaches are fouled, and more livelihoods are lost in the Gulf of Mexico.
Tough Talk and No Action
In a June 5th email message to supporters, paid for by Organizing for America, a project of the Democratic National Committee, President Obama again acknowledged the severity of the BP disaster and validated the anger it has unleashed. "This spill," he declared, "has not just damaged livelihoods. It has upended whole communities. And the fury people feel is not just about the money they have lost. It is about the wrenching recognition that this time their lives may never be the same."
"We have," he continued, "...ordered BP to pay economic injury claims, and this week, the federal government sent BP a preliminary bill for $69 million to pay back American taxpayers for some of the costs of the response so far."
Two days later, Tyson Slocum, the director of the consumer advocacy group Public Citizen's energy program, sent a letter to Obama and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates asking them to go further. He urged them to suspend, and ultimately debar, BP and its subsidiaries from serving as defense contractors, to terminate six current federal contracts with the company, and prohibit BP and its subsidiaries from winning federal contracts for the next three years. He wrote:
"Given the company's willful transgression of U.S. laws, it can no longer be presumed that BP will responsibly perform its contractor responsibilities. The demonstrated disregard for the law means that there is good reason to doubt that the company will abide by its obligations under its Department of Defense contracts. Moreover, the company's repeated violation of environmental laws suggests an unacceptably high likelihood that BP will violate such laws in carrying out its contractual obligations. BP's aggregate record of wrongdoing -- including but not limited to causing the ongoing gusher in the Gulf of Mexico -- evidences a lack of business honesty that seriously and directly affects its ability to perform its contractual duties."
Public Citizen has yet to receive a response or any indication that the president or the defense secretary has read the letter, Slocum informed TomDispatch this week.
"I am not aware at this moment of any plans to curtail or cancel any DoD contracts that may exist at this time," Department of Defense spokesperson Cheryl Irwin told TomDispatch. Irwin also stated that she knew of no plans to restrict the awarding of future contracts to BP.
The president has remained silent on the issue. Repeated requests by TomDispatch for comment from the White House's Council on Environmental Quality went unanswered. In a statement to TomDispatch this week, however, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) said it "is closely monitoring the investigations into the circumstances leading to the explosion and spill at the Deepwater Horizon facility. EPA will weigh its options under our debarment authority and take appropriate actions." No time frame, however, has been set for any type of decision. "It is really premature to speculate on the Agency's actions," an EPA official, who asked not to be named, told TomDispatch. "We're on hold pending the larger federal investigation."
Yesterday, the White House and BP agreed that the oil giant would establish a $20 billion escrow account to compensate claims resulting from the Gulf Coast oil spill. "This should provide some assurance to small business owners that BP is going to meet its responsibilities," said President Obama following the announcement.
The message is clear. BP will be held accountable -- but only to a point, and not nearly in strong enough terms, says Public Citizen's Slocum. The escrow account is "a no-brainer," he told TomDispatch. "But that's just related to the company's obligations to pay for a mess it created," he pointed out, likening the situation to an individual breaking the law. "If I commit a crime that causes damage, I don't just pay restitution. I pay a punitive fine or I'm incarcerated. The question is: What is the version of incarceration for corporations?"
Slocum sees a 2007 guilty plea by BP Products North America for a felony violation of the Clean Air Act -- stemming from a 2005 explosion at a BP refinery in Texas that killed 15 workers -- as evidence that stronger sanctions are now warranted. The fine resulting from the Texas disaster was just a "blip on their balance sheet," he says.
"You have to send a clear message to shareholders that committing felonies is not tolerated in the United States. And the way you do that is through some form of permanent sanctions." Barring the company from government contracts, says Slocum, would be just such a step.
With anger boiling over in the Gulf, there seemingly could be no more egregious offender or more deserving "ass to kick" than BP's. "I don't know of any other oil companies operating in America that are currently on criminal probation," says Slocum. "I don't know any other oil companies that recently pled guilty to a felony. I don't know any other oil companies that appear to have committed numerous acts of negligence that resulted in the largest industrial environmental disaster in American history. BP is an outlier, so it needs to be treated as an outlier."
Somebody should tell the president. Again.


50 Comments so far
Show AllObama's talking tough and ordering BP to pay injury claims??
Really?!? This is ironic, or better still, hypocritical, given the fact that Obama is the one who gave BP the green light to proceed with the dangerous off-shore oil-drilling, which left 11 workers dead and many more workers ill or injured, in the first place.
Just as Obama repeatedly emphasized the "need to protect insurance company profits" during his Obamacare campaign, expect Obama to repeatedly emphasize the need to protect BP's profits.
Obama is gunning for corporations, not for you or me.
Amen to all that. I don't believe one word Obama says because he's all BS. He's all for BP, make no mistake.
Nick, the people are currently responding to the BP spill. We're increasing traffic congestion with the latest record breaker of high volume traffic as late as 1:30 AM !!! The Pentagon is counting on us to be moronic gas guzzlers ! I wonder if they are also responsible for collaborating with the managers keeping the metro system in shitty condition.
As Public Citizen's Tyson Slocum wonders, "What is the version of incarceration for corporations?". Or is this another version of Obama wanting to look forward and not back? Just another example of America's leaders looking out for the well being of the vested interests.
Oil is essential for the expansion of the American empire.
Yup! You could see the US military as a global oil protection service. But there is a more basic level too. The rise of capitalism is part and parcel of the Industrial Revolution, which is inextricably tied to the exploitation of fossil fuels. So, it makes sense that global capitalism's only superpower would seek to dominate the world's oil supplies, and that oil companies would seek an intimate relationship with the hegemon's ultimate means of control: the military.
And products derived from oil seem to be essential to just about every American I can think of, and I am sure this is true with you, even if you are not American. To what degree are those of us in the demand part of the equation on the hook for this disaster? Thanks in advance.
It is an open secret. 'Those of us' are the hooked fish who despite all evidence to the contrary think they can take a bite and miss the barb.
In short 'those of us 'are the beginning and the end, and all that is in between, of the debacle we see. Get off oil. Start with something you can control then build on it.
Be a leader. First and most significantly, drive your car to the dump if possible get out of your it and leave the keys in the ignition and walk away. Either that or use it as a chicken hock. Then get fit and happy; to know your neighbour and the street and the intimate area of your living. Reduce the taxes you pay by the real percentage of GDP that goes into oil and the Pentagon including all research and development for those big tools the sexually introverted little boys and poor charity cases in uniform so love to hate.
Then watch those automotive plants turn to green. It will happen in five years. In this same time see the Pentagon grow massively in significance and turn into a museum charting the misdemeanours of the USA. See the agricultural industry alter in its entirety. See the USA change beyond recognition. See the same amongst the other little boy's clubs identified as the coalition of the willing.
If we cannot go through five years of effort and innovation, of walking or cycling to solve the problems on earth for the sake of our children then we need to die, and will.
We're too busy telling each other to live with a shitty metro system with bad scheduling, bad mechanics, forced delays, and fare gouging and then piss each other off out of it and back onto the roads. This is America jack and improving public transportation isn't a priority. If most people could get a job that requires less traveling distance or better access to metro trains and buses, your suggestion might hold water. Until then, forget it.
A $20 billion fund, oh boy, love to follow those tracks
all the way home,,,
It is going to be kinda like all those one hundred dollar
bills loaded on those C130s and head for Bagdad never to
be seen again.
The people incharge of these decisions have lost thier marbles. This is addiction plain and simple. The pentagon is fueled by greed.
The Pentagon is not only fueled by greed. It is also fueled by financial waste. They have 'misplaced' enormous sums of money and don't have a clue where it went.
That's more the State Department, The Pentagram has in fact in the last decade or so in fact turned down Over-priced toys, Like the JSF,(Joint Strike Fighter) the armed drones. the SeaWolf Submarine, project was to be stopped after the proto-type. But no Congress has forced most of this stuff down their throats, They have to answer to some one too.
>^^<
AS was postered in the 60's, 'War is not healthy for humans, and other living things'. The expense of it alone, at the expense to health, food, human services, housing, education, should be enough to abandon this back-assward thinking, we do have pre-frontal lobes that should be able to figure out the answers to the problems this world is facing without the use of arms and oil...it will be forced upon us soon enough if we don't pay heed now. Peace and cooperation.
"abandon this back-assward thinking,"
How is that done? Does one side just unilaterly give up all militaristic thinking and then we're all good to go?
You have answered your own question to your last sentence as it is recognized by most intelligent individuals that the United States has been responsible [as William Blum makes quite clear in his book Killing Hope] for the killing and maiming and crippling of more individuals in the world since 1947 than any other country on earth.
Healthcare not Warfare.
We gotta be good at something, We don't build TV's, or Computers, We haven't built a decent car for years. So we're good at bombing people. (George Carlin)
Srsly there are just more people than ever for targets. Not like the good old days of the Crusades, or the Spanish Inquishion, or Big Wars when you had to look for someone to kill personally. Now it's all about Drones, and collaterall damage. Might as well turn it all over to SkyNet, and go back to watching American Idol!
>^^<
" the United States has been responsible "
Whether true or not, I don't understand your point. If the US were to unilaterly disarm, would that simply stop all war, never mind whether it might jeaprodize the safety of the US?
My point is that the United States has been the cause of more wars since the end of
World War II. Of course it would not stop all wars as I never made such a statement. As I attempted to explain, apparently to no avail, if the U.S. had not committed those acts of military aggression then many more people woule be alive today.
By the way, there is no doubt that it is true. I suggest, in order to broaden your horizons, that your read William Blum's Killing Hope, which validates my assertion.
Thank you for your clarification.
"By the way, there is no doubt that it is true."
It's not so because you or Blum says so. Much depends on how you define "cause" and "responsible". I am sure the book you mention has been subject to critical scrutiny, not saying that the book is solid on the point or not.
What you seem to implying, as you always seem to do, is that the United States can do no wrong. Blum's book has over fifty pages of end notes to substantiate his claims as well as other evidence which demonstrate his assertions that millions of people in Third World countries have been slaughtered by the United States, either directly by U.S. bombs and bullets or by wars of proxy which were conducted and instigated by the CIA. As for the alleged critical scrutiny that you say has been leveled against Blum's book, that inevitably ends up with the flag wavers claiming that Blum is anti-American because he has written a book which dares to condemn American militarism and the CIA's role in aiding and abetting American imperialism, a charge which is based much more on emotional and patriotic sentiments than it is on any kind of intellectual vigor relating to what Blum has meticulously laid out in his book.
You are a prime example of what former Chinese Premier Chou En-lai once noted of Americans when he said that:
"One of the delightful things about Americans is that they have absolutely no historical memory."
"What you seem to implying, as you always seem to do, is that the United States can do no wrong. "
Can you point out what I said that could *possibly* imply anything like this?
"As for the alleged critical scrutiny that you say has been leveled against Blum's book,"
So that I am clear, I did not look at any criticisms one way or the other just yet, I just assume it's out there. That makes me wonder if, when you say this:
"that inevitably ends up with the flag wavers claiming that Blum is anti-American because he has written a book which dares to condemn American militarism..."
that if you have found some yourself if you could tell me where, so that I can parse it out and see if it is really like this characterization.
My guess though, is that you didn't see any examples at all and wrote this as a knee jerk to me pointing out that there are critiques. Am I right? It would be "inevitable" after all, no need to actually look and parse it out. No Critical Thinking needed here.
I checked our county library system and found no copies of this book. Does he examine Soviet backed wars with equal vigor? Or is it heavily one sided against the US? Do you understand in any case that this book is not the last word on the subject?
Always nice chatting, isn't it?
Jakewnewton
As to be expected, just another one of your comments that makes very little sense. My belief that criticisms against Blum's book were made more from an emotional point of view than from any intellectual criticism is not based, as you claim, upon some knee jerk response though I did expect that if there were criticism that is where it would come from, that is reacting emotionally emotionally rather than intellectually. It is very surprising that you would need someone to suggest to you where to find critical reviews of his book as you appear to be totally ignorant of an Internet service called Amazon which not only sells books but also allows people to review those books as well as to comment on those reviews. If you go to that site you will find over thirty reviews, I believe, of Killing Hope. Among those reviews you will find some people who criticize Blum for daring to pointing out America's propensity for waging aggressive actions against Third World countries since 1947 as well as other criticisms that have little to do with what he had written. One reviewer does the same thing you do and asks why he does not mention the former Soviet Union. Thankfully someone was on hand to point out to him that Blum's book was actually focused not on the Soviet Union but rather on the murderous activities of the United States.
Your query as to whether Blum examined "Soviet backed wars with equal vigor" makes no sense since that was not his intent. One can find, in all likelihood, plenty of conservatives who have written books on that particular subject. His desire was to demonstrate the number of times the United States has engaged in illegal CIA actions since after the end of World War II.
You wonder if it is "heavily sided against the US?". This undoubtedly will be a shock to you Mr. Jakenewton, but it certainly is and that is because all the evidence that he lays out leads him in that direction. Or do you not understand that one must go where the facts and the evidence present itself?
I find it ironic that you wish to lecture me on the virtues of critical thinking considering how willing you seem to be in bashing Blum's book without even bothering to read it. It would appear that the knee jerk response lies more with you that it does with me.
"just another one of your comments that makes very little sense."
Can you be more specific please? I wrote quite a number of comments.
"I did expect that if there were criticism that is where it would come from, that is reacting emotionally emotionally rather than intellectually."
Thank you for clarifying that. Absent an actual example you just guessed instead of waiting to see one. Clarity is always good, isn't it?
"an Internet service called Amazon"
I already saw a bunch listed there but didn't read them. I am sure some reviews are better than others, that is always the case at Amazon.
"Blum's book was actually focused not on the Soviet Union but rather on the murderous activities of the United States."
But *you* hac made the point that the US ranked highest out of all countries. What other references did you use to come up with that?
"the virtues of critical thinking"
See above. And below. You used a book that you admit only covered the US to make the claim "the United States has been responsible [as William Blum makes quite clear in his book Killing Hope] for the killing and maiming and crippling of more individuals in the world since 1947 than any other country on earth."
How can you claim that when you offered no other references and you admit that Blum focused only on the US?
"bashing Blum's book"
Never did. I said I assume it's got it's critics and that it's not the last word. Hardly "bashing", please try to be fair.
Where to begin in addressing your usual baffling comments.You criticize me for saying that some of the negative reviews would probably be based upon a knee jerk emotional response which is what one, I believe, would usually associate with someone who writes a book that is critical of US foreign policy. And lo and behold, to [almost] no one's surprise, that is exactly what happened. You certainly would be correct in offering a criticism if there were no reviews like that but, of course, that is not the case.
You then want me to provide more references for my statement that the US has killed and maimed and crippled more people in the world since 1947. Why would it be necessary for me or anyone else to do that since William Blum already persuasively makes that case in his exhaustively researched book? But then you appear to be reluctant to engage in critical thinking yourself as you do not seem to be rushing to Amazon or your nearest bookstore in order to determine if Mr. Blum has done exactly that. If you feel, however, that you need other sources besides Blum's book, then you may wish, in order to engage your [alleged] critical thinking, to read War and Empire: The American Way of Life by Paul L. Atwood as well as The Crimes of Empire: Rogue Superpower and World Domination by Carl Boggs, both of which basically explore the same theme as Killing Hope.
Help yourself out Mr. Newton. Do not allow yourself to be seduced by the propaganda that so many Americans see on such stations as Fox "News" and CNN.
"And lo and behold, to [almost] no one's surprise, that is exactly what happened. "
So, we are to take it that this is a correct characterizion of *all* of the negative Amazon reviews? Or did you just cherry pick one or two that you didn't like?
"Why would it be necessary for me or anyone else to do that since William Blum already persuasively makes that case in his exhaustively researched book??
Except that he exclusively looked at the US, and not at the Soviets for example, by your own admission. So he didn't make the case that the US "beat out" all other nations, did he? Never mind the fact that his is not the last word on the subject.
"If you feel, however, that you need other sources besides Blum's book, "
Yes I feel that way, as long as he focused exclusively on the US to the exclusion of all other nations like you admitted, in order to "rank" the US vis a vis other nations,
"War and Empire: The American Way of Life by Paul L. Atwood as well as The Crimes of Empire: Rogue Superpower and World Domination by Carl Boggs, both of which basically explore the same theme as Killing Hope."
Meaning they concentrate exclusively on the US to the exclusion of the Soviets, say, just like Blum? How can you *ever* support your claim that the US is the greatest offender over other nations when we only look at the US and no one else?
Yer killing me here dude.
And you really haven't addressed my question to "concerned" about "how we stop this". Of course war is expensive and "unhealthy" (that bumper sticker and poster was not ever very helpful. Those little catch phrases rarely are).
I am again confused as to your confusion. As the commenter concerned rightly pointed out, if the United States were to finally stop invading and slaughtering people overseas then there would certainly be money which could then be allocated for essential human services such as health care, education, libraries, infrastructure, the environment, etc.
Focus, Mr. Jakenewton, and you will then be able to locate what you are seeking.
"As the commenter concerned rightly pointed out, if the United States were to ..."
"concerned" never mentioned the United States.
"Focus, Mr. Jakenewton"
Right back at you Mister Erroll, or, see above, at least read more carefully.
Another inane comment. If 'concerned' did not specifically mention the United States it certainly seemed to me that he was referring to this country given the fact of how eager the U.S. is in engaging in military activity around the world. And if he were not then his comment is certainly relevant in and of itself:
"War is not healthy for children and other living things" which was originally said by Lorraine Schneider [1925-1972], American artist and activist
Again, as he correctly noted, the money that is stupidly spent on war can be much better spent upon much more useful activities such as health care, education, libraries, infrastructure, the environment, etc. Since the United States, as I mentioned before, has been involved in more wars, both overtly and covertly, than any other country since 1947, it would be correct to assume that that quote could most certainly be applied to the bellicose policies of the United States. That, as you noted before, could be referred to as engaging in critical thinking.
"Another inane comment."
No, it's your *guessing* that is inane.
"it certainly seemed to me that he was referring to this country "
But he didn't, so you guessed. Guessing your way through life is "inane".
"the money that is stupidly spent on war can be much better spent upon much more useful activities such as health care, education, libraries, infrastructure, the environment, etc."
You are both guilty of the Logical Fallacy called "False Dilemma". Google the term so you avoid the mistake. Your premise is that we have a choice between defense spending and the other areas mentioned. But rather then set out to *prove* that defense spending is "stupid", you instead assume it to be true and place it opposite the other social spending areas as if we can only do one or the other. While the idea of "Opportunity Cost" is always true, that is a dollar once spent can never be spent on anything else, this is not to say that we couldn't spend on defence *and* the social programs. The crux of the problem is that by arbitrarily pitting them against each other, you avoid your responsibility in discussing the actual merits of each, thus committing False Dilemma.
You will thank me one day for taking all this time for you.
Well the MIC has tried to cleanup new fuels for ICBMS pollute 50% less than 20yrs ago, green fuels for ground transport. They even are working cermic bullets to reduce lead contamination on the battlefield. That sounds pretty green to me!
Sarcasm / yes but these are all facts.
>^^<
I've been thinking that there is a consistent typo/error in the reporting of Obama's interview with Matt Lauer.
I think what Obama really said was "...so I know whose ass to KISS."
Just sayin'.
I think you picked up that typo nicely. Darn those typos.
Within the past century or so, humans have learned how to make machines that can make machines that make STUFF. We are close to a point where these machines can keep making STUFF without human inputs. Science "fiction" writers predicted this a long time ago.
There is a global glut of goods and computerized services, a global glut of cell phones and a cacaphony of yappity-yap all day long as people talk to each other over great distances without saying anything meaningful.
The purpose of the military is to destroy STUFF. This is because humans have not yet learned how to distribute the STUFF equitably. Americans are fat, lazy, and stupid. Their machines do most of the heavy lifting, while other humans the world over struggle to survive day by day.
We no longer need the military: it has been replaced by the gusher in the Gulf. NOTE: there is yet no guarantee whatsoever that BP or any other entity can shut down this gusher. And if there exists any estimate of just how much oil exists under this gusher, I have yet to see it.
The underlying principle of Capitalism is the creation of selective scarcity. The State creates perceived scarcity to motivate people to compete against one another despite the plethora of maldistributed excess.
BP has just created a new machine! It destroys life and livelihoods with no need of human intervention.
Behold! Sartre's "No Exit" as the emasculated male (Obama) babbles on inexorably about how BP will be held to "account." Account for what? What fat, lazy, stupid Americans asked them to do: provide cheap oil at any cost?
$20 billion "escrow" account? Please...
The thing about Armageddon is that you can't see it until you can't do anything about it.
There is no such thing as "peak oil" in the traditional sense. What we have is empathic disequilibrium and hubris of, by, and for the barbarian rich.
We need to destroy the corporation in order to save it.
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We need to destroy the planet in order to save it
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And if there exists any estimate of just how much oil exists under this gusher, I have yet to see it.
i don't have the figures before me, but the estimates vary between ten and thirty years for the oil pocket to empty at the current rate of discharge...
how about: kiss your ass goodbye (gas)...............
All very comfortable. It is BP!
This scape Goat stuff is childish in the extreme.
Get real and incarcerate the people who pay BP. This means the US government, the Pentagon.
Then incarcerate those who pay the US government and through them the Pentagon
'Those' are the US citizen. The US citizen is the country.
Because thetes noone to blame thats the beauty of corporations, to quote Andrew Jackson "They have no soul to dam, and no neck to strech!" He saw this coming over 200yrs ago!.
>^^<
Obama is a phony and the American public deserves nothing less.
All true
but Obomber works for BP
The author writes... "He urged them to suspend, and ultimately debar, BP and its subsidiaries from serving as defense contractors, to terminate six current federal contracts with the company, and prohibit BP and its subsidiaries from winning federal contracts for the next three years."
I assume that Shell, Exxon and the other 'good guys' will pick up the slack and everything will be hunkydory again. It is not just BP, but rather the whole industry that is responsible for what's going on. Garbage island (twice the size of Texas) is floating around the Pacific Ocean created by plastic wrappers and bags, politicans are being greased perpetually to wage war against the public sector and a never ending ideology of consumerism all lead back to Big Oil dictating our foreign and domestic agendas. By bankrupting BP and enriching its competitors in the process, a solution is replaced with a corporate shell game that fundamentally changes nothing.
A proper presidential response would call for an immediate global committment to wean us off of fossil fuels beginning with an end to military operations abroad, oil taxes to subsidize alternative fuel sources and a declaration that replaces the War on Terror with a War on Unsustainibility.
Don't wait for the US President.
He is and has been a joke for decades.
The spill may be indeed the fault of a BP and the US gov; children throughout the world know them as Tweedledum and Tweedledee. But these two are the fault of the US citizen. The US citizen takes pride in being the leader. The US citizen must take responsibility.
Dear US citizen,
Throw your fossil fuel dependence onto the junk heap. Start with the car.
Its an order!
The US citizen won't.
"Somebody should tell the president. Again."...good luck...we have non-human corporate rule and effective chaos..., with the resultants; fear, contraction, and mine/yours morality..
"the U.S. military has -- with little notice -- continued to carry on a major business partnership with BP"
That's entirely predictable. Sillycon Valley also depends on BP-Arco's methane to fuel its smelters. All the elements of the imperial juggernaut are in cahoots, naturally.
Finally, an article describing the obscene use of oil by our military! I was wondering how long it would be before somebody stated the obvious.
Our waging these illegal wars consumes HUGE amounts of energy.
"Finally, an article describing the obscene use of oil by our military!"
Your own use is OK then?
Space Cadet writes:
"A proper presidential response would call for an immediate global committment to wean us off of fossil fuels beginning with an end to military operations abroad, oil taxes to subsidize alternative fuel sources and a declaration that replaces the War on Terror with a War on Unsustainibility."
Agreed. And succinct. Despite the misspellings!
As for Catz' quote:
"thats the beauty of corporations, to quote Andrew Jackson "They have no soul to dam, and no neck to strech!" He saw this coming over 200yrs ago!"
YUP!
Meanwhile, the Dems still do their Jefferson-Jackson dinners. All the while avoiding their own history.
Just think how history would have been different if Texas had stayed in Mexico.
Lordy Lord.
OTOH, we would never have had the late great female mouths of Texas and you know who I mean. One said Dubya was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Did I get that right?
Sorry folks: Austin just does not justify Texas.
The oil business is corrupt beyond the comprehension of most humans. The BP gusher ought to be a wake-up call. But it will not happen. Journalism is a dead letter.
One simple question: why do oil companies, internationally, burn off the methane from their wells instead of using it.
Another question: why is BP burning off oil while claiming they lack the ships to harvest it?
Lies, lies, and more lies.
A no-account President. A no-account Congress. A no-account government.
Please bring back The Dixie Chicks! Earl had to die...
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