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Gaza Must Be Rebuilt Now
We can wait no longer to restart the peace process. The human suffering demands urgent relief
It is generally recognised that the Middle East peace process is in the doldrums, almost moribund. Israeli settlement expansion within Palestine continues, and PLO leaders refuse to join in renewed peace talks without a settlement freeze, knowing that no Arab or Islamic nation will accept any comprehensive agreement while Israel retains control of East Jerusalem.
US objections have impeded Egyptian efforts to resolve differences between Hamas and Fatah that could lead to 2010 elections. With this stalemate, PLO leaders have decided that President Mahmoud Abbas will continue in power until elections can be held - a decision condemned by many Palestinians.
Even though Syria and Israel under the Olmert government had almost reached an agreement with Turkey's help, the current prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, rejects Turkey as a mediator on the Golan Heights. No apparent alternative is in the offing.
The UN general assembly approved a report issued by its human rights council that called on Israel and the Palestinians to investigate charges of war crimes during the recent Gaza war, but positive responses seem unlikely.
In summary: UN resolutions, Geneva conventions, previous agreements between Israelis and Palestinians, the Arab peace initiative, and official policies of the US and other nations are all being ignored. In the meantime, the demolition of Arab houses, expansion of Israeli settlements in East Jerusalem and the West Bank, and Palestinian recalcitrance threaten any real prospect for peace.
Of more immediate concern, those under siege in Gaza face another winter of intense personal suffering. I visited Gaza after the devastating January war and observed homeless people huddling in makeshift tents, under plastic sheets, or in caves dug into the debris of their former homes. Despite offers by Palestinian leaders and international agencies to guarantee no use of imported materials for even defensive military purposes, cement, lumber, and panes of glass are not being permitted to pass entry points into Gaza. The US and other nations have accepted this abhorrent situation without forceful corrective action.
I have discussed ways to assist the citizens of Gaza with a number of Arab and European leaders and their common response is that the Israeli blockade makes any assistance impossible. Donors point out that they have provided enormous aid funds to build schools, hospitals and factories, only to see them destroyed in a few hours by precision bombs and missiles. Without international guarantees, why risk similar losses in the future?
It is time to face the fact that, for the past 30 years, no one nation has been able or willing to break the impasse and induce the disputing parties to comply with international law. We cannot wait any longer. Israel has long argued that it cannot negotiate with terrorists, yet has had an entire year without terrorism and still could not negotiate. President Obama has promised active involvement of the US government, but no formal peace talks have begun and no comprehensive framework for peace has been proposed. Individually and collectively, the world powers must act.
One recent glimmer of life has been the 8 December decision of EU foreign ministers to restate the long-standing basic requirements for peace commonly accepted within the international community, including that Israel's pre-1967 boundaries will prevail unless modified by a negotiated agreement with the Palestinians. A week later the new EU foreign policy chief, Baroness Catherine Ashton, reiterated this statement in even stronger terms and called for the international Quartet to be "reinvigorated". This is a promising prospect.
President Obama was right to insist on a two-state solution and a complete settlement freeze as the basis for negotiations. Since Israel has rejected the freeze and the Palestinians won't negotiate without it, a logical step is for all Quartet members (the US, EU, Russia and UN) to support the Obama proposal by declaring any further expansion of settlements illegal and refusing to veto UN security council decisions to condemn such settlements. This might restrain Israel and also bring Palestinians to the negotiating table.
At the same time, the Quartet should join with Turkey and invite Syria and Israel to negotiate a solution to the Golan Heights dispute.
Without ascribing blame to any of the disputing parties, the Quartet also should begin rebuilding Gaza by organising relief efforts under the supervision of an active special envoy, overseeing a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, and mediating an opening of the crossings. The cries of homeless and freezing people demand immediate relief.
This is a time for bold action, and the season for forgiveness, reconciliation and peace.
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Show AllThank you former President Jimmy, for adding whatever prestige a former President might have, to this sensible call for action.
May your life be long and vital, your dissent a continuing source of irritation and embarassment to the apologists for imperialistic empire. From such irritations pearls of great value come forth.
Poet
Carter writes,
"Israel has long argued that it cannot negotiate with terrorists, yet has had an entire year without terrorism and still could not negotiate."
I cannot find facts to support Carter's "entire year without terrorism" statement, facts I need to counter the usual "believer's" response to Carter's Mid-East concerns. Will someone direct me to confirmation (including the year to which Carter refers)?
You obviously aren't looking hard enough. Prior to attacking Gaza, there had been a ceasefire for over a year. The information is there - if you really wan to find it. That is what Carter is talking about. Pro Zionists always neglect the fact that Israel does not always react to Palestinian actions. Most of the time they are the aggressors. Case in point being the illegal collective punishment of the Palestinian people who live in Gaza. Look up the Geneva conventions - it's in there and is not allowed. But then again, Israel need not respect them because the US will always protect them - seeing that the US does not abide by them either.
cedross:
I understand fully that Israel is most often the aggressor---in every way imaginable. However, when I went yesterday to a couple of online sources that list non-state acts of terrorism (a rather loosely framed phrase, no doubt) worldwide, I found no length of time beyond nine months during which Palestinian (another troubled term---to easy to point a finger) acts of terrorism against Israeli civilians haven't been chronicled.
I also realize that there are only two states that routinely ignore with impunity international treaties and UN resolutions, as you infer in your response.
My search is for hard fact that substantiates Carter's "one year without" statement.
The Gaza situation must be addressed; I'll continue my search.
Peace.
Somehow, Jimmy Carter neglected to mention that Palestinian attack on the Israeli border post which resulted in two soldiers dead and one captured was the final straw that prompted Israel's operation in Gaza.
When Mr. Carter talks about a year passed without terrorism, he does not mention that Palestinians refuse to release the kidnapped soldier, constantly changing their demands in the prisoner exchange negotiations.
What Palestinians, and our former president, don't realize is that it is not they they are holding that solder kidnapped, that by their actions they are kidnapping themselves.
Israelis takes care of its soldiers - something this country has plenty to learn about - and it is quite understandable why they insist that the soldier release has to happen before any normalization in Gaza.
Release Gilad Shalit and let the healing begin...
You are thick in the head right? You must be to spout the above nonsense that you just posted. Israeli is an occupying force and a brutal one at that. The Palestinians have all the rights to defend themselves from the murderous occupying force that is engaging in theft, murder and destruction.
Release Gilat? Why does Israel not release the thousands of Palestinians that it has held without cause? Gilat can rot for all I care.
What your statement above says is that you support ethnic cleansing, murder, theft and apartheid. You fucking zionist!!!
I think in addition to being horrified you are seriously deranged, lobotomized and stupefied. You can rehash all the propaganda bs until the end of time. It will not change the reality.
Israel is real and Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world have to learn to accept it.
If Hamas wants to start normalizing relationship with Israel and work toward peace, they need to start by releasing Shalit. The fact they they don't want to do it, betrays their true intentions - they don't want peace. It is that simple.
Hey dumbass...where has Israel recognized Palestine? Who has been attacking whom? Who is stealing lands and murdering people you dumb zionist fuck?
Hamas won the election and ISRAEL DOES NOT RECOGNIZE IT...or are you just retarded? Israel and US wanted and election...just did not like the outcome. So they arm the illegal Fatah and to fight Hamas. When Fatah lost, they went on an all out blitz to destroy Gaza, you remeber...with those racist jews having a picnic on the hillside watching the IDF murder innocents? Or were you tuned out during those times? You kill murder and destroy and expect the occupied to have the thumbs up their arse? You are really fucking retarded. A classic zionist...blame the victims...
Israel's days are numbered. They just have not realized it yet.
"I think in addition to being horrified you are seriously deranged, lobotomized and stupefied. You can rehash all the propaganda bs until the end of time. It will not change the reality."
ROFL! My daily prayer is: oh, god, please let hypocrisy hurt...a lot! Amen!
But I guess god is hard of hearing.
here is another voice for peace
a voice for peace
"Somehow, Jimmy Carter neglected to mention that Palestinian attack on the Israeli border post which resulted in two soldiers dead and one captured was the final straw that prompted Israel's operation in Gaza."
But, somehow, poor lil Israhell managed to get even by murdering only 1,400 Palestinians, mostly women and children. I'd say that just about makes them even, wouldn't you?
Cut and paste this into your browser, then hit enter...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmBWAGODcRE
OB:
You seem to have pulled out the wrong story provided by your Zionist mentors - expect a reprimand. The attack on the Israeli border post was the "cause" of the previous disproportionate use of force by the Israelis - against Lebanon not against Gaza. In that case - as in the case of the more recent assault on Gaza - Israel had prepared well in advance for the attack.
Just to set the facts straight on Gaza - though I have repeated this many times and the Zionist trolls just keep coming back with their falsehoods - sorry for boring those who do read the threads: there had been a ceasefire for 6 months until November last year during which time Hamas launched no rockets. It is true that a few ineffectual rockets were launched by groups affiliated with the opposition Fatah - the ones who lost the Palestinan elections. Hamas is allowed limited resources by Israel so had in the circumstances done a remarkably good job of containing the attacks. No-one was killed or injured by rockets during that period. In return Israel was supposed to lift the blockade of Gaza which, true to form, it failed to do. Then, as an Israeli election was due and the political leaders needed to appear tough (remember that at that time the Likud was the leading opposition party) the IDF launched an attack on US election day to kill several Hamas leaders. Of course - as intended - this went unreported in most of the MSM at the time. Hamas responded with rockets and then Israel countered with its massive onslaught and massacre. Standard operating procedure for Israel I'm afraid! It has been doing it since its inception and before.
As to Gilad Shalit, I feel for his parents, just as I feel for the parents of the 10000 or so Palestinians held in Israel. Incidentally it appears that there may be good news on both sides soon:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEZMBwuOA8j8&pos=9
though I am sure that there will still be Palestinians languishing in Israeli prisons after the prisoner swap. I wonder OB if you are concerned about them too?
Of all the former Presidents we have had, Jimmy Carter is by far the most "Christian" of them all. He is a true humanitarian. Maybe that's why he lost to Ronald Reagen. A good and honest person and a "true Christian" can never hold the office of President of the United States.
Nothing will happen unless u.s. cuts military dollars to its client state. It won't.
It is up to 'civil society' globally. Carter is still naive and too much a part of the system. Albeit. He is capable of compassion. Which is a step ahead of the rest of the 'Quartet'.
A trailblazer toward a new paradigm. He isn't.
p.s. I am Jewish. Just a note for the contingent who believe that Israel=Judaism.
Judaism is a religion. Being Jewish does not only mean to follow Judaism.
Most of Israelis are secular, and many are atheists. They still remain to be Jews.
Most israelis are secular and that is why they support the destruction of Palestine and the theft of land around jerusalem? And it has nothing to do with religion? Nothinig to do with the temple of solomon? Or the red heifer? ....you are a crackhead aren't you?
If Judaism is a religion and those that follow it are Jews, then, how can there be Jews that don't follow Judaism? Better yet, what makes a Jew a Jew then? Are they a race or just a religious group? I've been asking this question for 50 years and nobody but nobody seems to have the answer. It just seems pretty clear to me that: (1) either a person is a Jew because they follow the religion or Judaism; or (2) if they don't follow Judism then, they're not Jews! However, if they make some hapzard claim to ancestry, lineage, place of origin or whatever, then, they're not Jews because of religion but because of their ethnic/national origin which means they are not a religious group but an ethnic group.
How can a Catholic, Protestant, Baptist or any of the other cults claim to be Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, if they don't follow that religion? This is the most baffling and assinine crap I've heard all my life and nobody seems to notice the inconsistencies with that either
That is irrelevant, the issue at hand is political: it is about raw power and interests. Racism is indeed a part of it, the rampant hatred of "Arabs" with darker skin tones and non-European culture is used to whip up hatred for the "other" and to offer a pathetic excuse for war crimes and ethnic cleasning.
The "orientalising" of the Arab world has been happening for many many decades and continues to this day. Arabs are almost always portrayed as irrational, violent, liars, terrorists and otherwise sub-human.
Judaism is a religion. Being Jewish does not only mean to follow Judaism.
Most of Israelis are secular, and many are atheists. They still remain to be Jews.
Carter is not naive at all, he well knows the true state of things. But he also knows that keeping quiet only aids and abets evil. He has a clear conscience because he does what he knows in his heart, is the right thing to do. How many of us can say that?
I see nothing happening except more and more Israeli government expansion.....
The peace process is DEAD and has been DEAD since America first supported Israel in 1948....Since then, the U.S. has blindly supported Israel and will continue to do so...
I mean even in the most economic hard times America faces, the Israeli government still recieves BILLIONS & BILLIONS of foreign aid.....
So, while, you cannot afford healthcare in America, the Israelis have UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.....AND AMERICANS DON'T!!!
Two-State Solution is DEAD---The Israeli Government does not agree with it!!!!
The Quartet is USELESS as long as Israel says NO and NO and NO to all and any proposals!!!
In addition, the state of Israel has a sordid history regarding it's treatment of the U.S. and our security and sovereignty, apart from at least one direct attack on our nation. Cut off all aid and impose serious economic sanctions on Israel until they get with the program. The rest of the world sees it this way. The U.S. refuses to see Israel as the rogue state that it is because we act in the same arrogant, lawless, immature and immoral manner. Some ideas, no matter how long they persist, are still bad ideas.
Yeah, Jimmy!
You must know that you are my hero and that of my Father. He came to Georgia and the only thing that he wanted to see when he visited me at Fort Benning was Plains and the home of his hero, you!
We really must launch a two-prong attack against the Israelis and the Egypians, both of which are trying to bury the Gazans in a horrendous situation. Should we attack ourselves, (Americans), since we are furnishing the Egyptians the means to bury the Gazans with their subterranean wall? Yes, I think we must recognize that we Americans are guilty of destroying all chances of peace in the Middle East. We cannot continue to blame Israel if we continue to furnish them with the means to destroy all paths to peace with the Palestinians.
As a person of Jewish ancestry, I think Israel's policies are suicidal, in addition to being illegal, immoral, inhumane, and ineffective. The only "benefits" of Israeli policies are that some Israelis and some Americans experience some kind of satisfaction in displaying power against powerless people. The Bible says that Israel should treat the Palestinians the same way that Israel would like to be treated. Jewish and Christian backers of Israel all agree on the Golden Rule. To set the precedent that brutality against helpless and innocent people is OK, is recommended, is legal, that is not a good precedent for a minority people in the Middle East to set. Peace and justice are achievable and instantly available at any moment that the Israeli government decides to make peace and to be just. Period. I applaud Jimmy Carter's essay, and it is shameful that he is one of the very few US politicians with the courage and care to speak publicly about this.
Yes, but religion appears to be just an excuse for naked aggression, imperialism and racism. Israel is simply taking their cue from the US Empire, which finances and supports Israeli policy. If the US Empire withdrew support for their proxy state in the ME, Israel could no longer sustain such policies.
Israel is a terrorist State. The U.S. is a terrorist State. Europe crawls on its belly to appease the two. It seems that the only person in the world willing to address these pertinent issues, with the exception of Jimmy Carter, is Chavez.
Chavez, Castro and Morales (and others) have all written and spoken out about this. Yet these folks are censored and/or smeared as evil commies by US politicians and media.
Check out what Ali Abunimah has to say at Electronic Intifada
President Carter is the only person of stature that is trying to solve this Mideast problem. Secretary of State Clinton's ties to AIPAC and the Jewish community preclude her from being an objective observer. For those who need to see the statistics, B'Tselem(www.btselem.org) has all of the gruesome facts of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, and it is one sided, the one being Israel.
In his book "Palestine, Peace not Apartheid", Carter outlines clearly and specifically the history of what could have been peace through UN resolutions and Arab agreements, but Israel and the United States decided not to take that road. Bin Laden gave the US support of Israel as one of his four reasons for the 9/11 attack.
Is there no other American leader that sees that the way to peace, not just in the Middle East but from many who take up terrorism against the US, is through peace between Israel and Palestine?
Thank you President Carter for continuing your efforts.
>>>Mookie wrote: Is there no other American leader that sees that the way to peace, not just in the Middle East but from many who take up terrorism against the US, is through peace between Israel and Palestine?
You would think it's should be so obvious. And a lot cheaper, too - if just a few of the billions spent on the "war on terror" were to be used for some kind of reconstruction.
Yes, I love Jimmy Carter, but we, in the U.S. must address our unequivocal support of Israel. This support resulted in 9-11. This support was a false flag for our war with Iraq. This support was a false flag for our war with Afghanistan. Is it the case, "Make the Middle East safe for Israel?", and in this case, I say let Israel eat its just rewards.
I don't want to spend one more U.S. Dollar for Israel! I don't want to buy Israel's products usurped from Palestinians. I can do without their cosmetics from the Dead Sea. I can live without Magi Bullion. I can live without Israeli artichokes. I don't want to hurt Palestinians producing these things, but I want to boycott Israel.
In the U.S., I can do without Starbucks. I can do without products from Home Depot. Americans, wake up! Stop supporting these companies which destroy peace in the world.
Jimmy means well and he raises valid points. Unfortunately, very few people realize that: Gaza is the world's largest concentration camp (over 1.5 million people), Gaza is and has been under seige for a couple of years (contravening a whole raft of international laws), Gaza has been reduced to rubble and poisoned.
Israel continues to receive unconditional support from the White House and Congress. The US Empire sees Israel as serving its interests in the region. Israel is simply a mini-me to the US, it engages in war crimes, ethnic cleansing and racist imperialism. Just like the US does.
Since the corrupt Congress and White House will do nothing, the only solution is Boycott Divest and Sanctions.
BDS!
US President Barack Obama this week signed the 2010 foreign aid budget law which includes $2.775 billion in security aid to Israel. This is the second year the budget is transferred to the Jewish state as part of understandings that the American assistance to Israel in the coming decade will total $30 billion.
Obama is another shill for Israel....Obana is a FAILURE!!!
IN Every way Obama is a FAILURE!!!
Israel has a universal, single-payer (socialized) health care system. The US govt. spends more on Israelis than it does its own people (per-capita). Maybe we should all apply for Israeli citizenship?
"It is generally recognised that the Middle East peace process is in the doldrums, almost moribund."
What gave that away? Was it the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan or something else?
But back to the topic at hand: Gaza. How will there ever be any progress in Gaza, Palestine or the rest of the Middle East for that matter, when you have the CIA training the people of those countries how to torture their fellow countrymen in grand Amerikan style? The solution in the ME, not just Gaza, is simple: kick the Yankees out of there and have them take the Jews with them. End of the problem! Then, whatever happens after that will be an internal conflict, one that they will handle by themselves without any intrusions from foreign powers. The end!
As for this article, I feel it is entirely too politically correct. In attempting to be impartial, Mr. Carter doesn't even address the real issues at hand. The fact that Palestinians, not just Hamas, and Israel are at war has an underlining reason: Israel is occupying the Palestinian land, enslaving and cleansing its people. What else are they supposed to do? Send bouquets of flowers to the jews?
I must say that for the $2.77 Billion given to Israel this year, there are another $3 or $4 Billion in Military Transfers that are never required to be repaid. Added to that, the money that Germany must pay for guilt incurred from Nazi Germany, Israel is living on U.S. and Germany donations. If we, the U.S. and Germany, cannot demand that they abide by international law, then the world is lost to these blackmailers. And I am not so sure that the $2.77 Billion is accurate, because these blackmailers asked that any donations given to them be given in EUROS! Look again at the transfer rate!
In Euros indeed, Israel has special trading agreements and rights with the EU. Not to mention the dollar's weakness.
What a good thing it would be if Barack Obama allowed Jimmy Carter to be his advisor, not just on Israel, but on other peace issues. A Secretary of Peace. (Dennis Kucinich wanted to create a Dep't of Peace.) So many good men and women go to waste in this world. So much potential unrealized. Thank you President Carter for your continuing efforts.
That's a nice fantasy, genierae. Just to remind you, even at the 2008 Democratic Convention where the "anointing" of Obama took place, Jimmy Carter was NOT invited to speak, even though he was sitting right there - among the crowd. The fact is that Carter is not respected by his own party, and he probably knows that. If Obama were a true leader, he could involve Carter - at the very least for an occasional consultation.
Mr. Carter deserves to be commended for his about-face from his presidential dictates of 30 years ago in sending US weapons and military to every corner of the globe.
Archbp Romero begged him to stop sending US weapons to El Salvador until a US bullet stopped him.
Mr. Carter helped give birth to the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan during his presidency. What an accomplishment!
It looks like he's doing as much as he can to make amends.
How odd that, like Greg Palast, Carter has to go to England to get his views published.
And our military transfers to Israel, white phosphorus bombs, were used on defenseless Gazans last Christmas. Our military transfers were used to destroy U.N. schools and hospitals in Gaza. Our military transfers were used to obliterate defenseless civilians carrying white flags. These people in Gaza had no avenue of escape. There are walls incarcerating everyone in Gaza. The Mediterranean is controlled by Israelis. Egypt, on the other border, is owned by the U.S. and Israel and they did not allow anyone to escape there. The people were trapped in Gaza. I hate that I am an American privy to what we condoned there. I hate that I am a citizen of France, also, which did nothing for the people of Gaza. Last year, I had my Christmas tree up for six months to help the people of Gaza. This year, I have no Christmas tree. Jesus Christ cannot be happy with last year or this year!
You Christians who support Israel without thinking, think about this: Jesus is not happy with you! He supported love and your support of our U.S. government with regards to Israel IS NOT LOVE!
But Jimmie, first one must remove the keys from the jailers of the Gaza Ghetto; who've failed to learn from their own history and who are insolently ingrate to those of US who finally freed them from those of Fortress Europe!
Doldrums would be a major improvement. How can we rebuild Gaza before we get the US to quit paying Israel to destroy it?
Jimmy, your words are worth peanuts here. You are the smiling, sickening 'left' image of the Democratic Party, a war party that helped destroy Gaza alongside Israel and the Republicans. You are a public relations gimmick, Jimmy.
President Carter deserves our respect. He was the first to recognize Israel's apartheid policies. The wall that imprisons Palestinians is an abomination. The Israeli check points control movement and humiliate Palestinians. Palestinians have stopped suicide bombings which fueled Israel's rage but to little avail. Ultimately only a two state solution fair to both sides must prevail.
again, all you need to know about the israelis is count folk bernadotte. google up his name and you will read a a tale of courage and betrayal. a neutral swedish prince during ww2, he helped free thousands of jews from extermination camps; but, after ww2, when the united nations sent him to palestine to negotiate borders for the new state of israel, jewish terrorists killed him, and then the state of israel would not bring charges against his murderer. everyone knew it was the prime minister's driver, a mr. cohen, who shot the swede 8 times through his heart, all because the good count didn't, to cohen's thinking, suggest borders expansive enough for ben gurion's new state of israel. when the statute of limitations for murder in israel had run, the surviving conspirators all confessed their roles. no objection came from simon wisenthal, famed nazi hunter, who earlier correctly said there should be no deadline for prosecuting murderers. lucky that the prime minister's friends were not 90 year old nazis, though their crime against count folk bernadotte surely put them on the same footing.
After the demolition of Gaza, the zio criminals extorted agreement from EU (and presumably other entities) that Gaza would not be supported in rebuilding . . . until some sort of contrition/penance for "starting" the conflict.
Call the bluff on Samson Option. Raise the stake. One move that even looks like zio hit on EU or anywhere else gets punished by nuclear hit on Tel Aviv.
That'll get some progress moving.
Why the US v THEM?
The idea that only one party is an aggressor, one is right and one is wrong makes discussion meaningless.
They are all wrong.
Both Hamas and Israel are aggressors and the victims are the Palestinian and Israeli peoples