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CNBC business analyst Rick Santelli's televised tirade earlier this year ago against the idea of "loser" homeowners receiving government assistance turned the cable analyst into an overnight folk hero, no small feat for this voice of oppressed bond traders everywhere.
The Fox News/Republican right has high hopes the ensuing "tea party" protests inspired by Santelli's rhetoric will serve as a rallying cry for rousing the right-wing faithful against President Obama's economic recovery plan. Unfortunately for them, the public protests against "taxes and spending" turned mostly into a transparent exhibition of the Republican Party's desperation.
Indeed, there is legitimate public unease over the President's recovery plan. But what are the Republicans going to do about it? Predictably, the "free-market" fetishists of the right remain broken records when it comes to their own recovery proposals. Which are? Basically, just more of the same Bush-era version of deregulated Reaganomics. In other words, endless sops to the financial interests of the rich and powerful while everyone else gets to breathe more stale air about better days to come. That's why the "Tea Party" protests amount to little more than a manipulated exercise in fake populism.
But as long as we're shedding illusions, what about also divesting ourselves of some equally archaic liberal notions? Most Democrats now assume that the economy will eventually right itself if only we somewhat re-regulate the financial sector, temporarily pump more public money into troubled companies, and provide market incentives to private capital.
Accordingly, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner wants to provide low-cost loans and guarantees to private investors to buy a minimum $500 billion (maybe up to $1 trillion) in toxic mortgage and other bank assets. The plan is based on the dubious proposition that the road to economic salvation winds through the same hedge-fund investors and private equity firms already responsible for speculating the economy into disaster. Even worse, the terms of the plan guarantee that it is only the risk-not the profit-that will be minimized for private investors. As the New York Times noted in a March 24 editorial, the Treasury plan represents "a near complete socialization of losses, with little value flowing to taxpayers."
True to form, some on the right now decry Obama's stimulus package as nothing less than the triumph of socialism in America. "Lenin and Stalin would love this stuff," former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee told a recent meeting of the Conservative Political Action Conference. Not that the huckster Huckabee has any serious ideas about how to solve the run of mortgage foreclosures or rising unemployment. Or, for that matter, the crisis of capitalism itself.
The Decline of the Empire
Speaking of which, the real trouble with the Geithner plan is its
assumption that the banking system is basically sound. In fact, the
current crisis reflects contradictions in "free market" economics
decades in the making.
As Walden Bello, a senior analyst for Focus on the Global South, noted last fall, "The Wall Street meltdown is not only due to greed and to the lack of government regulation of a hyperactive sector. The Wall Street collapse stems ultimately from the crisis of overproduction that has plagued global capitalism since the mid-seventies."
He's right. The current economic crisis is a product of the long goodbye of the postwar American empire. The prosperity that followed the end of World War II was largely driven by rebuilding war-torn Europe and Japan, along with the introduction of permanent, large-scale military spending. But inevitably the rebuilt foreign economies came to represent not just new markets and investment opportunities, but increased global competition. With the rise also of newly industrializing economies in such countries as Brazil, Taiwan, and South Korea, the competitiveness of the U.S. economy had by the 1970s begun to undergo serious decline.
Until this time, relatively high wages served not only to stimulate U.S. consumer spending, but also to pacify the labor movement. The Keynesian regulatory controls put in place in the 1930s acted at least partly to temper the natural "boom or bust" cycle of the market. But there was always a limit to how far the wondrous world of postwar productivity could go. That's because even the most affluent "free market" societies are characterized by social inequality and poverty, which represent serious brakes on the public's buying power. Hence, overproduction.
With declining profit rates, Reaganomics had by the early 1980s become the ideological clearinghouse to justify trashing "outdated" government restrictions on capital growth. Supposedly, dismantling "burdensome" restrictions on trade and commerce would prompt the wealthy, inspired by their growing good fortune, to invest with renewed vigor in new jobs and capital growth. A rising tide of popular affluence would thus be the result.
Of course, it didn't quite work out that way. The "trickle-down" economics of the Reagan era instead turned into a form of economic waterboarding for the average American. Income circulated only one-way, upward from the middle class and poor to the already well-off on their way to becoming the super well-off. Good paying union jobs were exported overseas where wages were cheap and work standards low, while at home wages and benefits stagnated and union growth stalled. Two decades later 40 to 50 percent of all U.S. corporate profits come from operations and sales abroad, while wages have remained mostly flat. Tellingly, the income gap between the haves and everyone else is greater now than any time in the nation's history.
A World on Edge
If laissez faire economics is dead, as French President
Sarkozy recently declared, so also is the era of American global
economic power. Today, the financial sector constitutes about 22
percent of all U.S. economic activity, notes former Republican
strategist Kevin Phillips in "Bad Money." As for manufacturing, it is
down to about 12 percent of the economy. These facts reflect less the
dynamic character of American capitalism than its underlying
instability and weakness. Why? Because the financial sector creates nothing of real value.
It is, as Bello notes, "tantamount to squeezing value out of already
created value." It should be an ABC of economics that only industry,
agriculture and their accompanying trade and services introduce real
value into the economy.
It should also be ABC that the current crisis is the result of bipartisan policies. It was the Clinton Administration and Congress that engineered passage of the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, leading to repeal of decades-old regulations restricting banks from offering investment or insurance services. The runway was thus cleared for an already burgeoning investor economy to soar into the speculative stratosphere. After all, why invest in actual economic growth when the real money is to be made buying and selling other people's mortgages?
Unfortunately, the Obama Administration proceeds as if the crisis is a serious temporary problem that money and some regulatory tinkering to the economic engine can repair. Meanwhile, the Republican right-wing sinks further into ludicrous irrelevancy, their jabs at Obama's "socialist" policies appearing increasingly grotesque and out of touch.
But since they've brought up the topic of socialism, why not talk about the real thing? The essence of the socialist idea is that the economy can and should be planned, both to make best use of resources and to serve not private profit but the majority's human needs. In other words, socialism represents the extension of democracy into the economy. In its absence we instead witness the current havoc wreaked on our economy by a relatively small number of super-rich, who use their economic and political power to twist the levers of the economy to serve their own narrow interests.
Some liberal economists such as Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman have recently begun to sound the alarm on Obama's recovery plan. Expecting those who caused the crisis to solve the crisis just won't work, says Krugman, even if you reward them beyond their wildest dreams. Krugman favors more extensive measures such as nationalizing the largest banks. Still, his perspective is limited. In the long run he'd like to keep the banks in private hands. Bank nationalization should be just a temporary solution.
Why? Why, indeed, should private ownership of major economic institutions be considered sacrosanct, especially when those who've had their chance to run things have instead run things into the ground? In a rational society the banking system would exist as an arm of the public good, a regulated system subject to democratic management. It might be even easier to grasp the capitalist folly in health care. We need private health insurance companies as much we need private fire departments that serve only their own paid-up enrollees.
Is this just inflated left-wing rhetoric? Then ask yourself how democratic it is for the richest 1 percent of Americans to own 43 percent of all stock? Or for this same 1 percent to account for 33 percent of total household wealth, according to the Federal Reserve Bulletin? Is it far-fetched to suggest that class inequality and economic insecurity are permanent hallmarks of life under capitalism?
If the economic crisis is the result of bipartisan policy, it's solution now lies in mass partisan action by an organized public. All the hopeful chatter from the Wall Street types in the Treasury Department who now command the President's ear will only go so far. A mobilized, grass-roots labor movement fighting for the right to organize the unorganized and for more jobs and better working conditions and economic relief for distressed homeowners would do far more to move the country forward to the better future we all deserve.
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Show AllGood piece. But I think Harris might have added that the position of the corporatist oligarchs who own nearly all of the US politicians is that "we will give up control over the political/economic system only when you pry it from our cold, dead hands."
Do these guys eat a lot of pork?
That's beginning to look like an acceptable bargain.
In a perfect world, it would matter what we the people think. In this one....
"Today, the financial sector constitutes about 22 percent of all U.S. economic activity....... The financial sector creates nothing of real value."
Geightner's Plan will perpetuate the "nothing of real value" elitist agenda!
BEYOND BAILOUT - Agenda for a New Economy: http://www.yesmagazine.org/article.asp?ID=3050
ECONOMIC OBSOLESCENCE: http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/mckillop/2009/0427.html
The problem with so-called Marxist socialism has been that it leads to a one party dictatorship – the reasons for which are too varied to be spelled out, however, the lesson drawn from this by most liberals is that utopian political formulas should be avoided. Nevertheless, liberals find themselves tongue-tied when confronted with arguments for utopian market formulas. Both governments and markets by some definition are with human society to stay and utopian formulas about the free action of either cannot work to the public welfare.
As regards publicly owned banks and insurance companies, these had been the norm in many European countries since the Renaissance, long before the term socialism had been coined – and remained state companies until privatized by the Nazi occupation, yet Karl Marx never mentioned any of these state companies as instances of socialism.
Building an efficient and effective socialist implementation is apparently non-trivial, and so, as with the development of an engineering design for a non-trivial machine, experimentation and testing is crucial in ironing out design problems. That is why it is so tragic that the imperialist capitalist powers have always interfered with, pressured, and corrupted socialist experiments in other nations. The more socialist experiments that are conducted, with non-interference from hostile powers, the better the designs will become and the more successful the implementations will be in achieving their goals.
South of Mexico experiments are growing and spreading. I have no doubt there is a lot of subtle pressure from capitalists to hold back the tide (I haven't gotten around to reading Economic Hitman). But there is a real possibility that gunboat diplomacy in this region is truly dead. It's a start.
Every black cloud has a silver lining. The US preoccupation with Iraq and Afghanistan made it far more difficult to control events south of the border.
Re kivals April 28th, 2009 12:02 pm
Well said. How ironic is it that the US has no qualms about trading with China, but only now are we allowed even to discuss ending the Cold-War relic known as the Cuban embargo?
China is the model our ruling class has been aiming for: a crony-capitalist economy and a Stalinist state apparatus. Cuba is hated and feared among our ruling class precisely because it's an example of how socialism can operate to the benefit of the populace at large.
China is a mercantilist tyranny and the envy of every thug Republican T-Banger. And that's where we're headed.
Mordechai Shiblikov-
You are the most ironic of an irreverent lot, although your adulation of Forever My Commander In Chief Bush perplexed me, Mein Fuhrer was misunderstood by so many.
One even dared claim His Countenance was portrayed in HIS TOILET. So misunderstood.
China has promised US Corporations to share a little bit of Africa with them. To not unfairly mark up raw materials before selling them to the US. Russia also stated recently, "We have no interest in Africa and expect our need for fossil fuels and other raw materials to disappear as we continue to expand industrially."
Exxon stated, "Thank Goodness"
Utopian political philosophies are not going to be the antidote to utopian market philosophies. Who will bell the cat?
I think that retail banking to protect the currency and to shore up FDIC insurance should be made into a public utility. I think mortgage banking should likewise be made into a public utility to prevent unaudited trading of bundles of mortgages – the object of which was to draw off the profits decades before the mortgages were paid, and the result of which is the mushrooming of foreclosures as the interest values were drained through the trading.
We should likewise go to single-payer health care to protect the public health at affordable rates.
All of these approaches have been ruled out because of the panicked cries of the market utopians – as dangerous to the public welfare as any pitchfork-waving Bolsheviks – but appeals to Lenin will only add fuel to their fire.
Socialism should not be abandoned out of hand – but perhaps it would be better to define what it is and what it is not should come first.
name me one communist country with multi-party rule?
end fractional reserve lending, the federal reserve, and dismantle the foreign empire and alot of the problems will solve themselves. the economy needs to be focused around localization of production, not widescale industrial planning.
i dont like what we got now, but with all due respect dave, me, along with most of the other people in this country won't be bossed around by a bunch of socialists who'd rather carry around a clipboard at party headquarters than do any actual work. just another bunch of power hungry control freaks who will most likely f*ck things up. the federal government needs less power, not more.
"There has never been a real socialist country."
Norway comes damn close - and they consistently rank in the top 3 spots on the UNHDR rankings (The USA is currently 15).
Perfectly democratic too...
Bingo!
Certain words create a Pavlovian knee jerk reaction among those who have accepted the lies they were brainwashed into believing while quite young.
There are examples of the merging of socialism and democratic government in several nations around the world, and in each and every case they do seemingly better than those nations that do not incorporate such ideology.
Cradle to grave health care, free college education, free public transportation, "creeping socialism" every one, and every one a great boon to the people.
Hello: you are right, and your information and education is very impecable, about the game of political powers. We also have to point out that one of the major causes of poverty in third world countries and around the world within the capitalist-system, is that the capitalist-nations with higher poverty levels like Peru, Colombia, Guatemala, etc. weren't rule by their nationalist-bourgeoise class, but by an Imperialist European and US oligarchic class, by the same token the capitalist-nations with lower poverty-levels got to be ruled by its nationalist-bourgeoise class.
I think that USA needs a revolution divided into 2 or 3 stages. The fist stage would be to overthrow the oligarchic-class, and for the nationalist-bourgeoise class to rise to power, and the next stage, would be path toward Socialism of the XXI Century and a true participatory workers-state.
"I think that USA needs a revolution divided into 2 or 3 stages. The fist stage would be to overthrow the oligarchic-class, and for the nationalist-bourgeoise class to rise to power, and the next stage, would be path toward Socialism ,,,"
The USA has already gone through your "first stage", that of having a nationalist-bourgeoise class. Unfortunately, due to the nature of capitalism, that class eventually evolves into an oligarchic-class. There is NO need to go back to an older form of capitalism, if that was even possible. The next stage in society's development is to move to a socialist system.
Marxist socialism was NOT what existed in the USSR under Lennin or Stalin. Socialism was undermined in that nation, but there is nothing to say that it always devolves into single party dictatorships. It could be said that unregulated capitalism DOES always evolve into single party dictatorship - namely fascism.
There is an interesting irony to the cold war. The 'father of modern fascism' (Mussolini) was asked to define fascism. His reply was that it was the seamless 'merger of the corporation and the state'. Basically the 'store' (industry - finance) owned the state and the two became one. Yet Stalinist communism (not to be confuse with Marxism) was a case where the 'store' was owned by the state - and the two became one.
Six in one hand fighting a cold war against half dozen for being 'different'.
Irony. Lies.
If democracy is in control of economic policy there WILL be socialism as well as free enterprise UNDER the law. When economic ideologues rule government you do not have democracy. Democracy means that economic policy can be whatever 'we the people' need it to be today. It is called the 'free market of ideas'. Corporate capitalism is NOT free enterprise. It is a system which limits the liabilities (socializes the costs) of the owners of the means of production who do nothing but profit from the labors of others, while escaping responsibility for the destruction caused by their 'property'. Free enterprise is a different animal.
But as long as we're shedding illusions...
There can be no bold action since many still are apologizing and making excuses for Obama. How can we pressure him when some are still creating rationale to provide him with cover or justifying the few crumbs he tosses as signs of real change? Face it, compared to Bush, possibly the worst president in history, one wouldn't have to be much of an improvement to fare better in comparison.
Instead of referring it as Geithner's failed policies--make it about Obama. It is Obama's appointee. It is Obama's policy. It is Obama who should be held accountable.
Vern:
You are right, of course. But try telling that to his screaming, pantie-tossing fan club.
And on that subject, am I wrong in thinking this is a phenomenon peculiar to this president? I don't remember that kind of fervent worship no-matter-what of any previous president--at least since FDR whom I don't remember. It reminds me of Britney Spears saying, of the invasion of Iraq, "I think we should just trust our president." One can forgive that, I suppose, from a teenaged nit-wit, but it's frightening when one hears, "He must have his reasons" from middle-aged adults.
Rainborowe
Well, at least FDR had some substance to him--he was considered a "traitor to his class" and he appealed to the common man. Obama, ironically is elitist and somewhat aloof - more hype than substance.
I'm afraid I was barely sentient when FDR died but I remember being told that when he came to town people put pennies on the tracks so his train would run over them and then keep them as souvenirs. And he certainly he deserved to be loved--for what he did. The Obama worship doesn't seem to be about what he does at all.
Rainborowe
During September 2008, we watched Senator Obama zealously support the first unconditional financial industy bailout that he told us would get banks lending again.
In the subsequent seven months Obama and Ben Bernanke have continued to lower interest rates and have overseen a series of taxpayer guaranteed financial industry handouts.
Today the financial industry is less regulated than it was six months ago (Obama is allowing them to cook their books), banks are lending less money than they were in September 2008, and the speculators that caused the meltdown have more low interest money than ever to manipulate commodity prices.
Anybody who doesn't hold Obama 100% responsible for these failed economic policies is either a liar, in denial, or brain dead. The fact that Obama's approval rating exceeds 20% indicates the sorry mindset of the US electorate.
and, Wall street wages, including bonuses are nearly up to pre crash levels.
Obama is the president, the Commander in Chief. Yes, he occupies the highest-ranking position in the US govt, but in reality, he is just a figurehead upon which everyone (right-wing and liberal) seems to be venting their frustrations. It is a folly to overestimate how much room to maneuver he really has in this area, as the checks-and-balances are not so much within the Supreme Court/ Congress, but rather a systemic interlocking directorate. Obama isn't in a position where he can make unilateral decisions about these things, and in a government/business elite of competing interests, there are bound to be compromises - some of which (i.e., the full extent to which US govt policies are led by corporate interest, for example) are probably only clear to those in the highest offices.
I think it's pretty absurd to say Obama is "100% responsible for these failed economic policies"; this is just a simplistic way of organizing data in your mind, when in reality he is a symbolic figure for the economic bailout but HARDLY the sole architect.
Not to mention that the current crisis is the result of the build-up of corporations and intersts that were for many, many years VERY successful and have as a result become very powerful and influential. To simply cripple these interests or to socialize these companies/interests ... well a democratic economy sounds good theory, of course, but it is the same argument of the reformist/ revolutionary in Marx's time -- Can you really reform WITHIN the current system?
Its like a broken record.
We must coddle Obama for his failure (and that is what it must be since the justification is set up as an excuse)because he is really powerless even though he really wants to change. Obama appointed the architects of de-regulation even if he didn't himself introduce the policies.
Funny how it was never a problem for Bush to get most everything he wanted--except privitizing social security and Obama is already making noises about addressing entitlements when he lectures about shared sacrifices. Do you see him asking the Wall Street boys to give up their bonuses? Well, he might mouth disapproving words, but behind the scenes he is gutting attempts to regulate.
Coddle? Nope! But those who hurl invective and insult do the nation no real good either. We are stuck with a system that is not working for the betterment of the majority and we will continue to get leaders who fail to satisfy as long as we do not address this major flaw.
Arlen Spector as a Democrat says it all......and his being welcomed with open arms speaks volumes, or should to those who remain loyal to that party.
whatnow: "Obama is the president, the Commander in Chief."
Correction: Obama is only the commander-in-chief of the armed forces "when called into the actual service of the United States" (Article 2, Sec. 2 U.S. Constitution). He is not my commander-in-chief because I am not in the armed forces of the United States, and he is not the commander-in-chief of anyone in the reserves, or militias who hasn't been called into active service.
Can we just knock that nonsense on the head now? Just because the Wanker proclaimed himself "our" C-in-C didn't make it so--not even when he dressed up in the codpiece.
I do recommend all Americans read their Constitution. I'm constantly amazed at how many seem not to have.
Rainborowe
Thank-you.
I find this tendency for civilians and and non-active duty military to increasingly refer to the POTUS as "My Commander in Chief" to be rather creepy and more than a little ominous.
Me too--on both counts!
Rainborowe
I would say pretty much NO, you can't reform within the current system. Obama may give us a few cosmetic changes to satisfy some of the discontented, but the core of the system will remain the same.
"...as long as you have private control over the economy, it doesn't make any difference what forms [of government] you have, because they can't do anything. You could have political parties where everybody gets together and participates, and you make the programs, make things as participatory as you like -- and it would still have only the most marginal effect on policy. And the reason is, POWER lies elsewhere... if we ever had a popular reform candidate who actually achieved some formal level of power: there would be disinvestment, capital strike, a grinding down of the economy. And the reason is quite simple. In our society, REAL POWER does not happen to lie in the political system, it lies in the private economy: that's where the decisions are made about what's produced, how much is produced, what's consumed, where investment takes place, who has jobs, who controls the resources, and so forth and so on. As long as that remains the case, changes inside the political system can make some difference -- I don't want to say it's zero -- but the differences are going to be very slight." ---Chomsky
I would also like to add this blurb about reform because it seems relevant to your question:
"The machinery of government, entrusted with the maintenance of the existing order, continues to function, but at every turn of its deteriorated gears it slips and stops. Its working becomes more and more difficult, and the dissatisfaction caused by its defects grows continuously. Every day gives rise to a new demand. "Reform this," "reform that," is heard from all sides. "War, finance, taxes, courts. police, everything must be remodeled, reorganized, established on a new basis," say the reformers. And yet all know that it is impossible to make things over, to remodel anything at all because everything is interrelated; everything would have to be remade at once; and how can society be remodeled when it is divided into two openly hostile camps? To satisfy the discontented would be only to create new malcontents.
Incapable of undertaking reforms, since this would mean paving the way for revolution, and at the same time too impotent to be frankly reactionary, the governing bodies apply themselves to halfmeasures which can satisfy nobody, and only cause new dissatisfaction. The mediocrities who, in such transition periods, undertake to steer the ship of State, think of but one thing: to enrich themselves against the coming débâcle. Attacked from all sides they defend themselves awkwardly, they evade, they commit blunder upon blunder, and they soon succeed in cutting the last rope of salvation; they drown the prestige of the government in ridicule, caused by their own incapacity." -- Peter Kropotkin
Obama could be getting shares for the Tarp monies. Nationalizing worked well with the credit unions and many of the brightest economists say it is best for these Zombie banks. You restruction them and sell them back into private sector. Easily done. But Obama does not have the will to do it.
All this could have been forseen by anyone who has studied history, specifically the history of the Dutch and the British as world economic powers. In both cases the end came when they went from making money out of making goods to making money out of shuffling money.
Rainborowe
Rainborowe
Excellent point. And one that should be brought up more.
Yes We need to find a way to organize the public out of the winner take all dem/repub system.
One big problem now preventing this is how the isms (even though there is no pure system in the world and all systems are mixed) represent the political fight now as ever before and will be centered around this demonizing of the systems or isms and they are just words... they don't exist in the real world but only as a football to kick.
The right will blame everything that goes wrong with Obama's plan on Socialism, and the Dems will say "We are not Socialists". Since all the politicians are millionaires, this is probably accurate.
The word "Left" is demonized by the dictionary as this is an old strategy of control by the ruling class by definitions of the obvious and old clash of social interests.
Maybe we can find a way around and through the problem, but I suspect that as soon as we quit using the words Socialism and Capitalism as the means to getting out of this hole, the sooner we will find a new way forward where people will say "now that makes sense". A sensible appeal for a planned economy where it needs to be planned for the common good.
a common good system and let the opposition call it socialism because that is what they will call it, I guarantee it.
The problem with organizing around any old ism is that they are just words used to keep you down.
I would agree with you, but a lot of pushing a program forward is rhetoric, and part of this rhetoric is reclaiming the meaning of words. Many gays I know have proudly reclaimed the word "queer".
Is the right "kept down" by the use of the word "capitalism" or "free enterprise"?
I see the rejection of the word "socialism" as the first step toward a democratic-party style sellout.
I expect since you call yourself "Leftist" you would think that my idea is a sellout.
If you prefer rhetoric and believe that less rhetoric is a sellout, fine... but how is the rhetoric revolution goin?
You asked "Is the right "kept down" by the use of the word "capitalism" or "free enterprise"? "
Not so much because as I pointed out it is "Left" that is demonized by definition... the right not so much because right means right and left means weak and evil.
If you want to reclaim names, fine. I do not reject any words, but we must use them wisely if we want to organize a majority.
I don't see that gays have any more right to claim the word "queer" than they have to the word "gay." I wish we could reclaim both those words; I miss being able to use them without having people gasp and titter.
Rainborowe
I miss being able to use "titter" for the same reason.
· Yr Obd't Servant
I just spewed my coffee all over the keyboard!!! Thanks loads......I know, a queer reaction to some funny wordplay.
YOS--you just gave me a good, old, out loud belly laugh!
Rainborowe
Hell, let's go with "Americanism" that sounds like a good -ism!
Stands for the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, both Individual and Communal. or some such
It seems that the finance sector DOES create something of value in an economy and that is the 'proper' deciding of what gets made. In a capitalist economy, the finance sector basically runs the open markets by which 'votes' are cast by wealth-holders about which investments will pay off.
What we've lost is the idea that, except for some government regulation and oversight, these markets should pretty much run themselves.
The goal of the finance sector has morphed into one of offering 'alternatives' to the markets, and in a society of open capitalism, this can only mean one thing: the alternative of making a higher short term profit by access to information that isn't divulged on the open market: the alternative of 'insider trading'. For example, the insider trading in derivatives is the trading in securitized debts that the insider realizes are worthless, but which isn't divulged in any 'open market' until the insider has gotten out with his cash.
And how does it profit the finance sector to offer these investment alternatives to the open market that basically are predatory on the society at large? Well, it gets higher fees. In a macro-economic sense, the entire economy adds value by making things, and the finance sector adds value by making decisions about what things get made. The fact that OUR finance sector said, over the last 30 years, 'I think we should make a bigger FINANCE SECTOR' is a reflection NOT of open-market capitalism, but of monopolization of investment information, the gaming of a unique role in the overall economy for personal gain. And sadly, its not like it hasn't happened before...
We need to get back to well-regulated, government-enforced OPEN markets, where investment decisions are made on an open, level playing field ('level' w.r.t. information), and get away from the back-room, hedge-fund, under-the-table deals that will ALWAYS be preferred by an unregulated finance sector (because how else would they make money, as the open-markets pretty much run themselves).
As Krugman said, the finance sector USED to be pretty mundane, low profit, storing of value and advice on investment. If you let it game the system by gov't not watching, its going to find one investment whose value is preeminent among all others: the FINANCE SECTOR. And thats not corruption, necessarily, thats human nature.
"What we've lost is the idea that, except for some government regulation and oversight, these markets should pretty much run themselves."
These markets should be driven by the demands of the people in the better interests of the society.
The financial sector's return on political investment is stunning. That's how it fleeces the rest of us, that's how it controls Congress and stays in power. We have to change the politics to change the economy. When will we all collectively suffer enough abuse to realize this--and change our profoundly corrupt government personnel, policies and institutions that have brought us so much pain and only plan to dish out more.
So, a working-class homeowners, who risked their their money in buying a house that was, perfently safe rapidly appreciating investment that they could always re-sell for a profit is a "loser".
Meanwhile, a suit-wearing bond trader invesring other people's money in ridiculously risky investment deliberately arcane schemes is somehow admirable and deserves our support.
"Basically, just more of the same Bush-era version of deregulated Reaganomics"
We see the right wingers have no ideas to fix their mess and only want to make it worst. During O'Bamba's presidential campaign, we on the far left were afraid that O'Bamba would only serve to save the right wingers from themselves. And this is exactly what we see today. Had enough USans voted third party as we on the far left urged, one or both of two outcomes, far better than this, wold have occurred: The third parties would have gained enough votes to force an awakening among both the people and the servants, and/or Demok incompetence wold have helped McKane into the oval orifice to create the conditions for a long-overdue popular revolt. We have to thank O'Bamba voters for the long painful future ahead. We who voted third party are vindicated almost daily (for the past eight years and counting).
The problem with your far left 3rd party is the 3rd parties are not organized...they split votes between them which just makes each parties cause weaker.
You also can't get votes by hoping for the greater evil to get in so you think that your revolution can occur.
The only awakening you get from this failed strategy is the majority thinks anyone who wants to make things worse for a revolution is nuts.
Making things worst is not the intended outcome of the third party vote. The intended outcome is the third party voter's peace of mind, which elite voters ought to consider acquiring for themselves, by voting third party.
Intentions are not good enough.
You said " Demok incompetence wold have helped McCain into the oval orifice to create the conditions for a long-overdue popular revolt."
This was said hundreds of times by those who wanted McCain to win and voted for a third party.
"voting 3rd party"... which one? You can't vote for them all.
You talk like there is a thing called "3rd Party" on the ballot.
Sure you get peace of mind, because you know you can't win and don't have to answer for any screwups.
But your peace of mind is so far the best reason I have heard yet but I could get that by staying away from the voting both also.