This Sucker Could Go Down
Crises seem to awaken the inner poet of the commentariat, and the Crash of 2008 is no exception.
In the effort to wrap the mind around a phenomenon as expansive and convoluted as this one, literal description falls short. And so the metaphor mills have been grinding at full capacity.
'It's like living through an extended earthquake,' explained television commentator David Brancaccio, 'only we don't know yet if it's the big one or a foreshock of a big one to come.'
The New York Times offered 'a landslide changing the financial landscape'. Others likened the events to Hurricane Katrina or an eruption of Mount Vesuvius.
Even President George W. Bush reportedly chimed in at an emergency meeting with what sounded vaguely like a haiku: 'If money isn't loosened up, this sucker could go down.'
But perhaps the most popular, and most apt, comparison has been to a casino.
Commentators have identified the culprit as 'casino capitalism' or a 'casino economy', and more than one has proposed a small tax on securities transactions to slow down the betting.
The financial system, however, is an odd sort of casino. In most gambling houses, management runs the gaming so that the house always makes a profit. Card counters are thrown out by the bouncers.
In this casino, on the contrary, no one seems to be running the show. Players get to make up their own games and chain them together in ways so complicated even the creators don't always seem to understand them.
Normally, when a player loses the house takes his or her money. Here, if a player loses a large enough sum, the house intervenes and assumes the player's debts. Nobody knows exactly how much some clients have won or lost. Apparently, the house has lost control.
'What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas' is the motto of the archetypical gaming destination. In this case, however, what happened did not stay on Wall Street: it spread to banks and real economies around the world.
A big part of the problem is that this house is a disjointed collection of government and quasi-public agencies led by financial industry insiders. Many have attenuated power and little will to trim the wings of high-fliers like investment banks and hedge funds.
Nobel-laureate economist Joseph Stiglitz traced the roots of the breakdown to 'the spirit of excessive deregulation that the [George W.] Bush administration so promoted.'
In 2004, for example, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the fairy godmother of financial markets, granted a wish heavily lobbied for by the major investment banks: it loosened a key rule limiting the ratio of debt to equity for these firms.
This freed up many billions of reserves for investment, the equivalent of the casino offering unlimited free drinks to gamblers. At Bear Stearns, the first of the big five to fail, the ratio reached 33 borrowed dollars for every dollar of the firm's own money.
Some of that spirit, though, predates the Bush years.
During the previous administration, legislation demolished regulations on investment banks and the New Deal-era firewall between commercial banks and investment and insurance businesses. Senator Phil Gramm, John McCain's economic adviser, was a lead Republican protagonist, but President Bill Clinton and his Secretary of the Treasury, Robert Rubin, also supported the laws. Rubin, like current Secretary Henry Paulson, was formerly CEO of Goldman Sachs.
How does this metastasising Monte Carlo actually work?
If government regulators and Wall Street CEOs had known the answer, the crisis might have been averted. Surveying the ruins, though, it appears that the structure consisted of several floors offering a dazzling variety of games for those with enough capital and nerve.
From higher levels, players can make bets on events lower down. And, like Bear Stearns, they can borrow massive amounts of money to play with, which is known as leveraging. When their bet wins, leverage multiplies their winnings; likewise their losses when they lose.
The ground floor hosted a straightforward game played by millions of homeowners: home-equity hold 'em. Through the 1990s and into this decade, increases in U.S. home prices far outpaced overall inflation. Many families took out loans against the equity in their homes or refinanced them to pay for other needs: mainly things like medical emergencies and higher education, but in some cases less essential purchases. Pressures to tap into home equity were exacerbated by the DotCom crash and wage stagnation for many U.S. workers.
The great majority of these mortgages were sound at the time. But when home prices crashed, many homeowners were left holding loans larger than the value of their houses. The Fed and Treasury failed to warn citizens or to take action to deflate the bubble gradually before it popped.
Perched precariously on top of the bubble, the second floor offered games like refi roulette. Lenders thrust adjustable-rate mortgages and 'creative' financing schemes on overstretched home buyers, some of whom didn't understand the potential downside and borrowed beyond their means.
When low initial interest rates went up and home prices declined, mounting numbers of borrowers both prime and sub-prime began to default on their loans. Foreclosures, the U.S. procedure for dispossessing delinquent home buyers, grew rapidly.
The third floor of the casino was a Wall Street theme park where mathematicians, physicists and economists could act out their wildest fantasies.
Mortgage lenders sold their loans to intermediaries, such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, who aggregated the mortgages into pools. These collections obscured the identity and value of the sub-prime loans they contained.
Based on these camouflaged values, alchemists at investment banks and hedge funds created byzantine unregulated securities like 'collateralised debt obligations'. They also marketed derivatives that placed wagers and counter-wagers on the risks lurking in the murky loan slurry.
Large volumes of these infected securities and derivatives found their way into portfolios around the globe. As the extent of sub-prime loan defaults became clear, the securities based on them began to putrefy. Widening circles of financial institutions, often unaware how much they were exposed to the contagion, began to rot from within, then suddenly bled from the orifices and collapsed.
The fourth floor of the casino was a gigantic confidence game, but also in a sense the foundation of the whole edifice: the interbank payment system.
Banks need to loan and borrow short-term money from each other constantly in order to provide credit and cash to businesses and individuals. Without liquidity -- accessible money and easily convertible assets -- to grease the gears of commerce, the machine grinds to a halt, as in the Great Depression of the 1930s.
Playing on this floor requires trust and cooperation between players. But the plague of degraded mortgage-based securities and derivatives, and lack of transparency into who owned how much of them, led to a breakdown of confidence. Nobody knew whom they could trust.
As a result, banks began to raise the rate of interest they charged each other for short-term loans. On Wednesday, Sep. 17, interbank credit seemed on the verge of freezing. Had this happened, cash machine withdrawals, credit card interactions, and short-term business loans might soon have been imperiled.
Now the high rollers have headed to Washington to try to salvage the casino. Meanwhile, the fear and greed that broke the house continue to reverberate around the world.
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Show All"Nobel-laureate economist Joseph Stiglitz traced the roots of the breakdown to 'the spirit of excessive deregulation that the [George W.] Bush administration so promoted.'
Wasn't it actually St.Ronnie (Reagan) who got that ball rolling?
Six Steps to Permanent Economic Recovery
1) Abolish the Federal Reserve. The destructive policies of Greenspan and Bernanke are not anomalies. This shareholder-owned banking cartel has been systematically enslaving Americans with debt and destroying the value of our currency since its spurious inception in 1913.
2) Establish a monetary system that is wholly owned and controlled by the People of the United States. The "fractional reserve" banking system allows private banks to create the public money supply out of nothing by “lending credit” on non-existent reserves. Money enters circulation in the form of debt repaid to private banks, a pyramid scheme that devastates our purchasing power. Our Constitution authorized ONLY the Federal government to create money and issue credit for the People of the United States.
3) The Treasury Secretary has historically colluded with the Federal Reserve to serve private financial interests with embezzled public assets. Fire Henry Paulson (and all Goldman Sachs intruders) and appoint a Treasury Secretary that serves the PUBLIC interest.
4) Let predatory institutions fail. American taxpayers are not responsible for their losses.
5) Permanently protect the public by imposing strict regulations on the finance sector. Short sellers destroy productive businesses by placing bets against them. Speculators inflate the cost of essential commodities without producing ANYTHING of value themselves. The quadrillion dollar derivatives bubble peddled by Wall Street swindlers to unsuspecting investors has eviscerated legitimate portfolios and shattered the global financial system.
6) Criminalize "campaign contributions" and give ALL candidates free and equal time on the PUBLIC airwaves to eliminate excuses for bribery. Legislators whose votes were purchased with financial sector bribes collaborated in this premeditated orgy of greed. It was Congress that shattered the global financial system by strategically deregulating the US financial sector at the behest of unsavory benefactors.
The cure for systemic financial fraud is systemic monetary reform.
Resources for Systemic Monetary Reform:
Economist Nomi Prins timeline of deregulation:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/where-credit-is-due-timeline.html
Attorney Ellen Brown: http://www.webofdebt.com
Historian Stephen Zarlenga: http://www.monetary.org/amacolorpamphlet.pdf
Author G. Edward Griffin (video): http://www.teachpeace.com/federalreservevideo.htm
Legislation H.Res. 2755 Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act: http://thomas.loc.gov
Sioux Rose
I always read your posts - they are much better than mine.
Sioux Rose
ZGOO: Many respond to others, that's what a forum is and is about. If you don't care to read my posts, pass them right on by.
ok...do what u wanna do. sometimes, i get to these articles on CD hours after they're posted. i then scroll to the bottom of the page and read the 1rst response to the article. then i read the replies to the 1rst commenter. on to the 2nd comment on the article and then the replies. etc. etc. etc. then i come to your comment and i find it's not a comment on the article, but a reply to one of the commenters. hey, it's not a big deal or anything, but why not just use the reply button? like i said, it adds to the continuity and flow of a thread.
All I see happening here in America is that there are a handful of filthy rich people in charge of financial institutions who trade places in and out of government. If one is not a CEO, then he is treasury secretary or vice versa. And the funny thing is: these people are always there even when the government changes. Just look at the people surrounding McBomb and Hope-Change presidential candidates, which brings me to what I have always suspected and voiced here on CD:
We have only one party with two different names (that’s why Pelosi doesn’t impeach). A handful of filthy rich people are always in power and in control. I think more educated CD posters call it plutocracy.
Just try to compile a list of these people within the past 30 years. I bet the list won’t exceed 50 names. So, isn’t it fair to say this is a government of, by, and for the rich? Go figure.
"President Bill Clinton and his Secretary of the Treasury, Robert Rubin, also supported the laws. Rubin, like current Secretary Henry Paulson, was formerly CEO of Goldman Sachs."
Indeed. We can expect MORE OF THE SAME. Obama has Robert Rubin on board. Who does Obama want to put in charge of it all? Warren Buffet!
Is this a sick joke or what?
Can you say ENRONIZED?
Vote third party, maintain your self-respect.
Again, a writer makes the error of saying sub-prime mortgages are to blame. This is very wrong. Foreclosure rates for sub-prime mortgages were cruising along at historic norms, but mortgage comapnies were being squeezed by a liquidity and credit crisis that caused many to fail. The reason for this is the index used to ascertain mark-to-market valuations for the mortgages underlying MBS, CDO, and CDS, etc. bonds--the ABX Index--was massively sold short by hedge funds and most of the big banks, Bear Stearns and Goldman Sachs included. In fact, as I posted last week, Goldman Sachs under Paulson was responsible for engineeering the ABX and aggressively selling it short. The goal was to drive the smaller mortgage lenders out of business so their assets could be scooped up for pennies on the dollar. What the players gaming the system didn't anticipate was the massive collateral damage their actions would cause.
I have provided this link on several prior occasions as it tells how the system's been gamed for a long time. More specific information about the mortgage crisis and the criminal non-enforcement by the SEC can be found by exploring this here. There were some of us who wathched this all unfold in real time and tried to get the SEC to do its job and thus prevent some of the cascading damage done. But as we all know, the SEC didn't do its job, nor did either of the several oversight committees in Congress do theirs, despite our many entreaties. By reading the story related at the first link, you can understand why the media has yet to tell the truth about this crisis--they were partners in gaming the system and are guilty of multiple felonies.
Dr Wu down the thread only named one half of the guilty party--Reagan must be included with Friedman; and alongside Reagan is the first Bush.
Solutions: We need at minimum a fourth branch of government, which will be wrested from the executive--The Regulatory Branch, which would coalesce around the Justice Department, and whose main officers would be directly elected by the people. I would also make Supreme Court Justices subject to direct election for terms of 6 years on a rotational basis like senators. Much of the unwarranted power of the executive would then be removed and the government made more democratic. Lastly, I would nationalize most banking and insurance and heavily regulate what remains of the financial system. The FED would cease to exist, being replaced by a true national-central banking system. During the 1992 campaign, Perot emphasized the need for legislation to end the revolving door between business and government; that is something that also must be done ASAP.
Spot on.
And add to that Regulatory Branch a truly independent Electoral Branch and you can see that what we really seem to need is a new Constitution altogether.
This does not need to happen through Revolution or violent Insurrection! Our current Constitution provides the leeway for calling a new Convention and writing an new one.
See Amendment IX and X.
In the community of nations sure seems like the USA has the lion's share of catastrophes.
Did the capitalists lose their moral footing?
What moral footing? A better question is DO capitalists have any morals whatsoever?
kane jeeves, rosemarie jackowski and wilmoor, you're all on to something. good questions. along those lines, why hasn't the country heard a word, or a mumble, or an utterance, or a grunt from our illustrious vice president in the last couple of weeks? dick, you got an answer. dick? dick?? dick.
Last I heard, Dick was off in the Bahamas safeguarding his money - but I'm sure that that is just a rumor.
Anyone remember the quote from Gordon Gecco in Wall Street -"GREED IS GOOD". We have been Geccoized, Enronized, and pauperized. But, those who have been paying attention have not been surprized. This is a fascist government and in a few weeks, we will vote to continue the corruption.
Voters deserve the kind of government they vote for. In Vermont there are 8 choices for president on the ballot - plus an infinite number of possibilities through 'write-in'. Any of the choices would be better than the repub/dem candidates. Prepare for 4 years of voters remorse.
Rule #1 in casino betting is that across the long term the House always wins.
Not just part of the time and not just some of the money.
If you keep playing the House wins everything, always.
Walk away from the table.
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Does anyone recall who first called the markets and capitalist economics a "casino?" It was Fidel Castro in 1998.
"The world has become a big casino. We feel much more respect for those who invest in the places, in a service, an industry, who invest in a certain branch of the economy. Speculative investment could be the great Russian roulette of the world economy. Tens of millions of people are making their bets in the United States. Almost everybody is involved. Money desperately seeking for money, absolutely disconnected from commercial or economic development"(Castro 1998: http://www.cuba.cu/gobierno/discursos/1998/ing/f011198i.html).
Try that on for size!
Sorry, but Castro was not the first. There were many references to casino economy in 1929 and afterwards. David Korten and others resurrected it in the early 1990s.
Try here also
http://www.share-international.org/media/newsrelease86.pdf
Armageddon! - Bush finally brought the End Times!
The NYC National Debt Clock has run out of digits!!!
This short video is well worth seeing. The understanding it brings may help you understand
our current situation. It is called "Where does money come from?"
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=%22where+does+money+come+from%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.debia...
I was going to write “Don't bring the physicists into this, they are mostly rational people”, but then I thought of nuclear weapons.
Bill from Saginaw October 8th, 2008 3:24 pm:
I would suggest an obscenely high capital gains tax to discourage speculation, say way above 50%.
The crux of this huge mess is the fake money that is generated every day by extending credit to people without the money to actually back that loan. It's just 1s and 0s and electrons flowing through machines. This was allowed to happen when the Fed loosened restrictions on margins. It “trickled” down to the ordinary people in the form of, at the time, ridiculous subprime loans on top of other refinancing ad infinitum. Now we have that quadrillion dollar whale that “Jacob Freeze October 8th, 2008 4:17 pm” talked about. There was an interesting post on a blog called the Financial Ninja,
http://benbittrolff.blogspot.com/2008/10/clinton-fannie-mae-they-knew-did-it.html
Scroll just past Clinton's picture and click on the picture of a document to enlarge. Read. Read again.
Anyone that still thinks that the Democrats have the interests of the common people upper-most in their mind after reading that... well, we can no longer help them. And since there is a lot of such people who will thus vote for them on November 4th, we are doomed. I need to read that book, “What's the matter with Kansas?” The author explains why the American people continue to vote against their economic interests.
I think most physicists are pacifists. It's a shame that their discoveries and developments can almost always be used to wreak havoc.
I don't know why Oppenheimer and the other scientists worked on the nuke. There was obviously only one purpose for that thing: mass destruction.
Oppenheimer and his crew developed the A-bomb because it was widely believed - or feared, take your pick - that Hitler was close to developing one.
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the pundits keep talking about the finanical markets vs the REAL economy.
does this mean that Wall Street is a fake or pretend economy?
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
I have a very simple description..
"some bastard stole my retirement fund!"
the finanical gurus have said that some expenditures will have to be postponed...
I have now had to postpone my retirement until sometime shortly after my funeral.
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
God is punishing us for the 8 awful years of war, pestilence and despair brought on by the BushTeam. George W. Bush-the ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction.
And while I am at it, why not celebrate the demise of one awful economist and the resurrection of another:
Milton Friedman, aka, Bush's Godfather (markets can do no wrong; only governments do wrong) is officially dead. Maynard Keynes (the deficit spending British economist) is back for a second time. He worked his magic for the New Deal and helped save capitalism, for a while. Once the capitalists got back in the saddle they reverted to their old rape and pillage ways. Now Keynes is back for New Deal: Part 2.
How many times do we need to bring Keynes back before we put a stake in Friedman's heart?
Dr Wu, the last of the big-time thinkers
Those responsible for the last 8 years (or is it the last, oh, 68 years?) of awful policies include many Democrats, including Obama. Look at their voting records, and their unwillingness to do anything about impeaching Bush.
Alan MacDonald
This excellent article asks, "How does this metastasising Monte Carlo actually work?"
Peter Costantini then provides a good overview of the financial crisis, with some very accurate analysis and analogies to 'gaming' and casinos, and the various levels and roles that some of the 'players' have in the casino.
However, a deeper answer to the question of "How does this metastasising Monte Carlo actually work?" needs to include a simple but deadly truth about how the 'gaming' of the market is actually effected in economic terms.
This biggest and most 'gamed' market failure in history is simply based on negative externality cost displacement (or hiding).
It's a three card monte scam that has been perfecting in the most destructive parts of the industrial economy and now has been applied to the financial sector.
In the industrial era the most damaging 'players' of this 'game' were companies like the cigarette corporations who made a faux-profit for themselves by simply hiding the negative externality costs of the products they made in their customers' lungs. (Likewise coal companies hide their negative externality costs in our atmosphere's lungs -- and caused direct deaths and indirect global warming).
But now in post-industrial America the 'gamers' or alchemists (as Costantini and I both call them) are hiding negative externality costs, in the form of exotic 'debt bombs' in the financial lungs of the financial world.
It sounds like your "negative externality costs" are what we used to call "non-transactional" costs. The idea that true cost of a product is not reflected in the narrowly defined costs of production but are passed on to the wider society to pay for, thereby hiding the true cost of the product.
If the price of all products were sold reflecting their full "cost" then a good many would price themselves right out of the market. Of course, who should impose and recoup that price is a good question. As the current market is set up, the only ones who do get the the selling price are the manufacturer and retailer, with a few middle-men along the way. A whole new system would be required to accomplish this goal.
This Sucker is spreading like the 1918 flu pandemic
- it's an equal opportunity destroyer and started in the U.S. as before.
A house built on sand can't stand when the storm hits. Our house (in greek - economos) is build on greed, selfishness, lust, and fear. Those are the parts of human nature required to make capitalism 'go'.
The Truth that is the fountainhead of reality is, conversely, Love, Unity, and Wisdom. These are the parts of human nature required to make our lives 'go'. Building our economy on the worst, rather than the best, of ourselves has always been a recipe for disaster.
Folks have said so all along, been called nasty names, and often killed. That's the lot of the prophet in every century. Now the prophet's words are coming true. Maybe we'll listen and learn....?
Naahhh.... silly humans. Good thing God is merciful.
Killing the Quadrillion-Dollar Monster
I had read dozens of articles about the financial meltdown before I discovered the real whopper among so many factoids: The derivatives market amounts to more than a quadrillion dollars in obligations.
This is obviously unreal money, and one of the main problems with the recent bail-out is that they are throwing a relatively infinitesimal amount of real money (even if it's fiat currency, you can still spend it) at a vacuum in unreal money that can't conceivably be filled.
Dosing the derivative market with $700 billion is like trying to medicate a whale with a baby aspirin.
What to do? We have to disconnect the quadrillion dollars of obligations in unreal money from the rest of the world economy. This thing can't be cured, and and we have to find a way to kill it without letting its corpse crush the rest of us.
A quadrillion dollars in obligations is a black hole than can absorb the entire wealth of the planet Earth, if we let it. It's time to cut it lose, and let the banks which created it go down.
The real functions of private banks have already been assumed by central banks and federal treasuries all over the developed world. It would be ridiculous to bankrupt ourselves to preserve the mere shells of private banks which have already speculated themselves into irrelevance.
Jacob Freeze
Probably there is not that much money in the whole world. I hate to say it, but the whole edifice is about to collapse, meaning the hoax of the 'financial system' is about to be exposed. What we'll have to decide, henceforth, is how to rebuild. Do we maintain the current farce and precipitate a worse catastrophe, or start living responsibly and within our means? The people who will resist the most are those who stand to lose the most. However, their resistance will be to no avail and only increase the pain for everyone. Many of the rich are likely to become paupers. If they resist, they may cause a violent revolution similar to those that have occurred in the past. People with nothing left to lose (making reference to the masses) can be VERY dangerous. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, the uber wealthy will resist; the same 'monsters' who brought us this hideous edifice will fight furiously to maintain it.
Y'all buckle your seatbelts, we're in for a bumpy ride. Focus on awakening inwardly, living within your means, and producing something worthwhile. Real production and real skills are likely to be in demand locally again. And that is not a bad thing.
I agree completely.
The financial system is like a body riddled with cancer and putting band-aids on it aint going to fix it. The system is corrupt to its core, and needs a drastic overhaul, maybe even requires a paradigm shift in how we see each other and ways to serve the needs of all humanity. Of course this will require a new political system also.
This topic was covered on 60 Minutes last Sunday.
I missed the first five minutes.
I don't know if they mentioned that John McCain's economic guru Phil Gramm enabled this disaster by sneaking into a sure-to-be-passed piece of legislation, in 2000, right before the Christmas break, 200+ pages that made all this legal and un-regulated.
Phil Gramm was John McCain's choice to be Sec. of Treasury before he said that we're a nation of "whiners" and that the economic downturn was "mental".
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Do you suppose that once all the wealth of America has been safely deposited in the off-shore accounts of the filthy rich who've been raking it in for the past quarter century the said filthy rich will then quietly slip away and go to their readied palatial palaces in Dubai?
Sioux Rose
BILL FROM SAGINAW: Excellent posting, you make it easier to understand! I wonder if the cronies in this scheme got their inspiration from the hilarious play, THE PRODUCERS? To the "uninitiated" two creeps want to make instant money so they seduce a lot of wealthy older women into investing in a play they KNOW will be a flop. They go out of their way to get an inane script, a bad, quirky leading man, etc. and the thing is, the play is SO bad, that everyone finds it hilarious and wants to see it. Suddenly they owe all the investors a lot of $...
The Monte Carlo casino analogy is apt. But here are a couple of other wrinkles.
First, the players in the Wall Street gambling house not only arranged to have the government's oversight regulators blind folded, but they also arranged it so that nobody had to ante up real money to play (or even pay a real money cover charge at the casino door). During the recent legislative bail out fervor, one of the most useful long term measures Congress considered was reinstatement of a financial transactions tax. I'm not sure what the fate of this proposal ultimately was, but I think it failed to be included in the final $700 billion recovery package.
Financial transaction taxes function much like the sales tax at your local convenience store. Every time a sale/purchase is made, a tiny fraction of the total transaction is collected by the cashier, and periodically forwarded off to the government treasury for deposit into the regulators' till. Financial transaction taxes were used to fund the Spanish American War, WWI, the New Deal, and WWII. They were apparently eliminated in the late 1950's in the United States, for reasons that remain obscure. Virtually all modern foreign stock markets in Europe and Asia impose such taxes upon stock and securities trades today. Their existence is the commercial norm, not some radical theory.
To me, it should be a political no-brainer for Congress to tap this revenue source by reinstating a financial transactions tax to collect back the cost of the 2008 bail out over time - a tax collected only from the very people who continue to play the casino games, and facilitate the gamesmanship, that created the crisis necessitating a government bail out in the first place. $700 billion is a lot of money, but even a .025% financial transactions tax would generate a staggering cash flow - enough to pay off the bail out in less than a decade by most estimates.
Why is this simple tax not fair? If you're going to run a high stakes casino, then why not have a cover charge, or an ante-up requirement for those who choose to take part in the gambling, if for no other reason than to remind them you gotta pay to play even if you're a reckless speculator?
Second, let us not forget that it was the threat that the insurance giant AIG was about to go broke - this ace of spaces was about to get pulled out of the bottom of the big house of cards - that triggered the sudden crisis atmosphere causing Bush, Paulson, Bernanke, et al. to leap into action with such abrupt urgency.
AIG is similar to Lloyd's of London as I understand it (although AIG also writes all sorts of ordinary life and casualty insurance policies rather than underwriting only huge risks such as the sinking of the Titanic). AIG began selling policies of insurance for the purchasers of the investment houses' bundled "collateralised debt obligations" here and overseas. AIG collected huge premiums, placing their actuarial bets on how there would never be an actual claim, so therefore AIG would never actually be called upon to pay off on a policyholder's loss.
What sort of a gambling casino would not only allow bettors a virtually unlimited line of credit they could borrow against while they played in the first place, but then also set up a booth in the lobby where the suckers could pay a premium to some well heeled backer to insure themselves against the risk of going bust?
Not in Vegas, baby. Only on Wall Street.
And what sort of high roller would actually set up shop and rake in those premiums in the casino lobby, figuring it this was all gravy because none of their policyholders were ever going to lose at the tables and come back to file a claim?
Only in Never Never Land.
Yet this is the system American tax payers are now committed to subsidizing
for the indefinite future, unless new rules are written for new regulators to enforce.
Bill from Saginaw
To quote the author of the article:
"The financial system, however, is an odd sort of casino. In most gambling houses, management runs the gaming so that the house always makes a profit."
There are those who've made huge profits which is exactly why they set it up that way. It's called FRAUD. And, as someone commented somewhere on this thread, those who have profitted, whether they be hedge fund managers, corporate CEO's or government officials, they will not be suffering in any way while this house of cards crashes down the globe!
Some days, I even with there was a god - so s/he could snatch these evil folks up right now and drop them over the edge of the Earth - buh-bye....
Has anyone noticed the new 'we will buy your gold' commercials running on TV lately?
Hmmmmmmm......
Also the "gold parties" (saw this on one of the daily morning shows today) being held like the tupperware parties used to be. The person comes with scale and something to assess gold quality or something like that; host/hostess and guests dredge up all their gold jewelry or other, have it tested, then get paid whatever the going rate is. And the person leaves with all that gold. They've emptied our treasury, brought our middle class down to the lowest level, now they're rounding up all our gold pieces we're having to hock or sell as we struggle to survive. What's left? They gotta be coming for all those guns we've been allowed to stock up on eventually, don't you think?
do they supply dental equipment to pry out those gold fillings?
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
No doubt.
I used to say that the Iraq war was a brilliant money laundering scheme. In war, some people die, and some get rich. The weapons manufacturers and dealers laughed all the way to the bank. This economic crisis is even more brilliant. Think about it. A few months ago, what would you have said if someone predicted that 700+ billion was going to be transferred from taxpayers to Wall Street. Even more amazing, is the apathy of the people. Will nothing make them rise up? People get the kind of government they deserve.
Sioux Rose
TOAST: I think you have it down. One plus is that Americans buy too much, waste too much and appreciate too little. If the loss of credit forces individuals to scale down and perhaps begin to acknowledge the blessing in what they do have, that's a good thing. (I do not wish to say I applaud those who are losing their homes. The $700 billion should have created a basis for renegotiating those loans so that the inhabitants NOT get a free pass, but be given a loan that was more affordable, even if it entailed a longer time line. Some pundit mentioned a 40 year mortgage. That would mean property values could stabilize, homes would be used not abandoned, and property taxes gathered.) The "experts" who made the problem and now have the opportunity to "treat" it are gonna party the $ away and leave the same situation crying out for help. It's a damned shame the least conscionable have been given the keys to so much.
sioux...if what u respond to is not the article but a response to the article, why not hit the reply "button"? it leads to more continuity and flow in this participatory medium.
This is as good an advocacy for socialism in the financial sector as I have seen in a long time. Why should any banking or finance business be allowed to profit from the manipulation of the value of currencies or other securities?
Poet
Poet:It's the American way. Until we stopped them.
toast October 8th, 2008 1:54 pm
The house then lets the players out of the casino, but only after intentionally destroying their "credit". The players go home to lost jobs, repossessed cars and foreclosed mortgages.
Kudos to you for this comment because what it correctly implies is that it's not enough just to steal from the victim; you must also destroy him utterly. In fact, the destruction of the victim may be even more important than the theft of his/her money. And that - at last - is the ultimate message of both the Republicans and the Democrats: DIE, MOTHERFUCKER!
"... management runs the gaming so that the house always makes a profit.
In this casino, on the contrary, no one seems to be running the show. Players get to make up their own games and chain them together in ways so complicated even the creators don't always seem to understand them."
From my point of view, I can not bring myself to believe that. In fact, by all accounts, this appears to be just another application of manufactured disaster capitalism. All those billions are going into someone's pocket... and it certainly appears as if it is the "house".
The house makes a designed profit on the players losses. They then distribute that profit in various ways that add up to insane salaries and obscene "bonuses".
They then lock the doors to the casino and tell the players that they can not open them again, until the house is guaranteed an amount that approaches the players' original losses. The players are forced to borrow from loan sharks, leaving them in debt for decades.
The house then lets the players out of the casino, but only after intentionally destroying their "credit". The players go home to lost jobs, repossessed cars and foreclosed mortgages.
The house make double profit on the gambling and then uses that to buy the assets of the dispossessed for pennies on the dollar... meanwhile the criminal "backers" get their cut.
great racket.
I'll see your 700 billion, and raise you 3 trillion (by the way, that tick in my left eye is not really my bluffing tell).
The point missed here is this: the blood of Vegas is GREED - not just normal greed, but greed as a severe mental disorder, no different than any other addiction - always chasing the hollow high while ignoring the consequences of your behavior and never admitting there's a problem even after all is lost.
"McCain is an avid gambler. Wes Gullett, a close friend who worked for McCain for years, told me that they used to play craps in Las Vegas in fourteen-hour stints, standing at the tables from 10 a.m. to midnight."
"Craps is addictive," McCain remarked.
Too much is never enough. 7 houses - not enough. 13 cars - not enough. $500 million per year - not enough. $14 billion profit in a single quarter - not enough.
No regulations are going to cure that level of sick, twisted craziness.
This sucker went down a long time ago. It started when the American middle class replaced the Native American as an exploitable resource. You can't build a country on a broken back.
Hoa binh
I really would like someone to explain to me why the financial collapse, and gutting of America WASN'T the plan all along. Since when has our government, or any other for that matter, told us out in the open exactly what it's plan was? If you were them, and your plan was to cause a financial collapse that you could then take advantage of, Disaster Capitalism style, would you hold a press conference and say "ok, folks, here's the goal..."?
voxclamatis makes a good point that the US electorate continues to be enamored with ever less qualified politicians.
At least Dubya admits he doesn't read newspapers. Palin would increase her credibility if she at least admitted she doesn't read newspapers, rather than saying she reads "any and all".
The Federal Reserve (Fed)is only useful when it's goal is to control inflation. Paul Voelker is the only Fed Chairman during the past half century that attempted to control inflation. Unfortunately, the neocon noise machine has convinced most Americans that Voelker and Jimmy Carter are to the blame for 1970s stagflation, even though their actions are what ended stagflation.
Ever since Reagan took office in 1981 the Consumer Price Index has understated the true rate of inflation, thereby giving the Fed a rationalization to encourage speculation by keeping interest rates very low. The dot-com (late 90s), housing (2003-2006), and food and energy (2007-2008) bubbles were all the result of the Fed lowering interest rates when they should have been increasing rates. Not to mention the negative effect low interest rates have had on the value of the US Dollar.
Stay tuned to see the results of today's Fed interest rate cut.
So in our system the Commander in Chief and Leader of the Free World is not required to have passed a civics course or to name six foreign heads of state and the economy upon which the world's economy is dependent rests in the hands of a pack of greedy, immature gambling addicts.
This is just my uninformed opinion, but wouldn't we be better off choosing a President who is actually intelligent and qualified? And wouldn't the economy be less disaster-prone in the hands of capable managers tasked with making the financial system benefit the people who are affected by it? What kind of idiots are we?
We let children drive the bus, and then we are surprised when it takes out the guard rail and sails off into empty space. Right now the ride seems to be a little smoother, and our ballpoint pens are floating. But that first bump is going to be a bitch.
but wouldn't we be better off choosing a President who is actually intelligent and qualified?
If you found him (or her) what makes you think they would want the job? Since Obama has won, we know he's intelligent, lets hope he is qualified.
"This Sucker Could Go Down"
Put this now infamous phrase, which is both thoroughly and brutally idiotic yet touchingly prescient, on all our money. The new minimalist one dollar bill should simply show a sweating George Washington, his lips pursed, pulling his shirt collar away from his neck with an index finger. And above that in the largest type face that will fit, the words THIS SUCKER COULD GO DOWN.
One point that no one seems to be making is that ensuring liquidity is supposed to be one of the primary functions of the Federal Reserve Bank, an institution which I've always described as a welfare system for incompetent bankers.
If it's truly necessary for the taxpayers to perform that function then it's painfully obvious that the Federal Reserve is as useless as W was as a pilot. We can do without it.
q