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A Fair Plan to Pay for Economic Recovery
With the specter of financial Armageddon raised in headlines everywhere, two questions keep occurring to me. Where will the government find the $85 billon to bail out AIG and other Wall Street giants? And how will we pay for the proposed Main Street recovery, including federal aid to states, relief to homeowners, and public works projects for the unemployed?
The Bush administration plans to add to the $400 billion projected deficit and our $9 trillion national debt. But it's irresponsible to shift the bill entirely to the next generation. The corporations that rigged the casino economy and the wealthy CEOs and investors that profited at everyone else's expense should bear the recovery costs, not our kids and grandchildren.
We can't recover the money from the companies now. They have extracted the profits and their CEOs have cashed they gilded paychecks. The speculators bought mansions, private jets, and small islands. Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy on Monday and 25,000 workers are on the brink of unemployment. But Lehman CEO Richard Fuld is sitting pretty, with his $354 million compensation from the last five years and a mega-mansion in Greenwich, Connecticut.
When a CEO or employee improperly takes money from a company and is forced to pay it back, it is colorfully referred to as "disgorgement." In 1999, managers of Compaq Computer cooked the books and gorged on bonuses based on misrepresented profits. The government forced them to pay it back.
But what happens when a whole sector of the economy has been cooked and billions of dollars have already been stashed in offshore bank accounts? How are the crooks held accountable for robbing our entire economy?
Here are six actions that will fairly generate over $400 billion a year to pay for a broad-based economic recovery and reduce the extreme inequalities that fueled speculation at the outset.
Institute a Financial Transactions Tax. Congress should levy a tax on financial transactions such as sale and purchase of stock and more exotic transactions such as credit default swaps, options, and futures. The UK has a modest financial transaction tax of 0.25 percent, a penny on every $4 invested. This is negligible for a long-term investor, but imposes a cost on the fast-buck flippers. Estimated annual revenue: $100 billion.
Impose an Income Tax Surcharge Rate on Incomes Over $5 Million. The 50,000 households with annual incomes over $5 million are the bigger winners from twenty-five years of Wall Street deregulation. They've also seen their effective tax rates decline under President George W. Bush. Instituting a 50 percent tax rate surcharge on incomes over $5 million and a 70 percent rate on incomes over $10 million would generate $105 billion a year.
Eliminate the Tax Preference for Capital Gains. Wealth extracted from Wall Street windfalls will pay out income for years to come. There's no economic reason for taxing income from corporate dividends and capital gains at 15% while taxing income from actual work at 35%. Taxing wealth and work at the same rates would generate $95 billion a year in revenue.
Progressive Inheritance Taxes. When great amounts of wealth passes to the next generation a portion of it should be taxed. A progressive estate tax could generate $50 billion a year in the short term, but much more in outlying decades.
Eliminate Taxpayer Subsidies for Excessive CEO Pay. Five loopholes that benefit top executives should be abolished. These include eliminating offshore deferred compensation, capping the tax deductibility of excessive pay, and eliminating double standards for stock option accounting. Closing these tax loopholes would generate $20 billion a year. (Read more about this in this recent report from the Institute for Policy Studies and United for a Fair Economy.)
Close Offshore Corporate Tax Havens. Congress should prevent corporations from playing games by claiming expenses in the United States and profits in countries that don't collect taxes. According to the Government Accountability Office, two-thirds of US corporations paid no corporate income tax between 1998 and 2005. Closing this loophole would generate over $100 billion.
Government action should prioritize protecting ordinary people and the real productive economy, not further reward the superrich and the speculative sectors of the economy. A fair plan to the pay for the recovery is a good start.
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Show All"There's no economic reason for taxing income from corporate dividends and capital gains at 15% while taxing income from actual work at 35%."
I could not agree more !!!
"Here are six actions that will fairly generate over $400 billion a year "
No doubt the above money figure assumes no *reactions* to the "six actions". Very dubious thinking.
Apparently, you don't even want to admit the truth. And why aren't you calling for cutting that war spending on Iraq? Yeah, that's "defense" ! NOT !
Incoherent. This is what I said, that you responded to above:
"No doubt the above money figure assumes no *reactions* to the "six actions". Very dubious thinking."
Now I'll go make us some popcorn while you come up with how your statement addresses anything in my statement.
good luck. i predict some more babbling and swearing. have a nice weekend.
I hate doing it but sometimes it's best to kick the rightwing lunatics asses.
Thanks for proving that the article was correct. Now go right ahead and keep your brain CORN-fed, LOSER.
Right idea, ineffective application. If you really want to give this a zing you should in addition to what has already been mentioned:
Tax all commodities trading at twice the rate of stock exchanges.
Tax the capital gains on all non-homestead real estate.
For a rag like The Nation, though this is a step forward--could it be that Katrina Vanden Heuval is finally starting to get it--only time will tell.
Poet
another article that ignores the most very basic macro and micro economic principles.
i've said it many times around here lately, and i'll say it again. even when it sounds like the most emotionally complelling action, it'll have a very real and often very detrimental effect.
can you beleive this clown, suggesting that the following actions are sane from an economic perspective?
1) increased taxes on investment - would have an obvious reduction in investment levels, therefore jobs, new technologies, etc. and he wants two of them, transaction taxes and captial gains tax increases
2) increased taxes on those who spend the most - almost every dollar spent by some rich guy contributes to the jobs we have. cut off the spicket and it'll dry up. guaranteed.
3) increased double-taxation of income in the death penalty. remember the poor lady who loses her family farm becasue she can't pay the inheritance tax? nuff said.
4) increased corporate taxes - again an assault on the working class. how can one think that taking potential dollars out of the free market and putting them in gov't beurocracy is a legitimate argument is beyond me. direct result: lost jobs. increased prices. good idea?
i guess the legitimate perspectives are skewed by the i'll-feel-better-if-someone-else-hurts attitude around here
I know little about the details of economics. However it looks like you're attempting to say that trickle-down Reaganomics is a good thing. From various sources I DO trust as knowing about economics, Obama being one, it seems that theory has been proven false by the situation we're currently in. The current fiasco is a direct result of the Reaganomics and lack of regulation you suggest.
and where again did i suggest that we should not regulate?
the truth of the matter is that it does not matter if you "believe" in trickle down economics or not. it is reality. i assume you have (or want) a job. (if not, no offense). take this simplistic example:
1) most companies sell stuff to people or other businesses. those other businesses eventually sell something to other people
2) the people that buy those things need to pay for them so they need jobs or money
3) the more money they have, the more they spend. (stay with me, please, this is where it gets tuff)
4) those that have the most, spend the most (proven fact)
5) in fact, those that have the most spend so much it dwarfs the amounts that you and i spend collectively (also proven)
6) when you over-tax them, they have less money. if they stop spending, your company stops producing.
7) when your company stops producing, they need fewer people
8) when they need fewer people, you and i lose our jobs
i guess you could say that we should take what those rich people have and give it to you and me so we don't have to work anyway, but really, where would that get us?
It's one thing to come up with a simple example that seems to make sense. It's another to see the actual effect in practice. Unfortunately, in practice, greed and an overwhelming "ME society" attitude rule the day. So the seemingly obvious trickle down doesn't in fact occur. I do agree that if the rich had a different mentality, and saw just how much their good fortune relies on a whole web of other citizens, and they felt the obligation to share the wealth, then trickle down might work in reality.
i see it work everyday...i work in a factory that has plenty of employees and continues to hire because people are buying what we sell. it make sense becasue it is real. sure we need regulation, but this article is not about regulation, its about stifling the money flow from the source...that money flow that we depend on.
The only source of money flow these days is borrowing from other countries. I'm sure you refuse to pay attention to the reality that most blue collared workers are forced to live on lower pay, fewer job benefits, and fewer worker safety protections all because the companies lie about there being a lack of money when they spend far more in bribing and campaigning for or against pols to curry their favor on supporting legislation that rewards companies who screw their employees all the while fighting against pro-worker legislation. Companies can quit lobbying, quit bribing the pols, and stop evading their taxation. Besides, why hire lawyers to avoid paying taxes since lawyers cost more money than the taxes that need to be paid which are very small to begin with? They don't need any more welfare handouts.
You might be seeing a local exception but overall the wealth doesn't trickle down. Much the same way I can say I work in an IT department and see me and my friends still have jobs. This doesn't mean that overall, IT jobs aren't being outsourced.
of course IT jobs are being outsourced. so are factory jobs, by the way. but that does not make proven economic facts irrelevant. the key thing to think about is "what would be the reaction of this proposal?" why would you think that higher corporate taxes and higher investment taxes get anyone to invest in american companies and rovide them more money to hire more people? the exact opposite would happen...the flood of outsourcing would exacerbate. we've already got one of the highest corporate tax structures on the earth. why make it worse to do business here?
You have completely lost on your own turf. The policies of "free" trade, deregulation, privatization, cutting employee benefits, wages, safety and protections, and even reward these companies for laying them off to steal near-slave labor or even "cheap" illegals are the culprits of outsourcing. Taxes are for maintaining a country's public infrastucture. The roads you drive your gas guzzler on, the gas stations, law and order, public education, etc ... cannot be achieved without taxes. There's no point in taxing the working class at 35% while giving corporations, who are legally given personhood, 15% tax rate for doing nothing. American companies are already failing for choosing to put greed over ethics and principle, PERIOD.
what planet do you live on? what working class gets taxed federally at 35%?
Read the article.
Peter, who is stifling the money flow from the source? What is the source? Is the source of wealth the bank that prints money? Or is the source of wealth the earth and its multi-dimensional resources? Two of those resources are materials and human labor, exploited by elites. Others are the human mind, heart and spirit, stifled by elites. The people should not depend on credit or trade. The progressive way is localism, where we enjoy but never depend on credit/trade. The elites will become less elite. Much less elite. This is happening NOW.
ok...weird.
maybe you could direct me to some sources where i can learn about how these forces make irrelevant proven economic fact?
thanks
YOU ARE FORGETTING THE REST OF THE SYSTEM YOU SILLY SOD!! HE stops spending. HE does. Not the world. The money doesn't disappear does it? What do you think will happent to it? IT WILL GET SPENT!!! You are playing the fool! ......bah!.................
If you take from the rich and give to the poor the rich will spend less and the poor will spend more. Duh.........If you give it to the state, the state will spend more. Again.....duh.........
If you take from the rich you will be hurting the luxury industry. If you give to the poor you will be helping the basics industry. Ultimately what matters is the residence of that money and the velocity (transactions per unit time) Money in rich circles has low velocity and stays among the richest.Money in poor circles rapidly escapes toward the rich circle, helping people along the way at all levels.................lizard
"The money doesn't disappear does it? What do you think will happent to it? IT WILL GET SPENT!!! "
Or not, as is happening in the current market. The money may stay on the sidelines, essentially under a mattress.
"2) increased taxes on those who spend the most - almost every dollar spent by some rich guy contributes to the jobs we have. cut off the spicket and it'll dry up. guaranteed."
That rich guy is going to buy that expensive watch and that expensive car and all of that other expensive stuff no matter how much he is taxed.
please don't ignore economic facts and spout this rediculous falsehood. every single dollar taken is one that is not spent or invested. no one puts it under their mattress anymore.
and don't forget that the more we tax US businesses, their investment dollars (and others') will divert immediately to other economies, exacerbating the lost-job result.
Pure political bullshit. Big Business wastes more money lobbying and bribing pols than they'll ever bother paying in taxes. You're a pathalogical liar.
Do you have a source for that?
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You should first ask petertheok to provide his sources for his lies before asking others.
I can ask anyone I want for a source for something they assert to be fact. And that's what I did, I'm sorry if that does not please you.
I have yet to see you ask the liar petertheok. Since you won't do it, you're just another rightwing motherfucker who cannot be taken seriously either. I'm sorry if that does not please you. If you don't like the fact that America is getting sick and tired of rightwing fascism, pack your bags and leave the country and move to Iraq where you belong.
"I have yet to see you ask the liar petertheok. "
I am already familiar with sources that provide that data. Therefore I don't need to ask for a source. You're welcome.
Then if you're so familiar with Peter's sources, why don't you provide the links for it so others can decide who lying and who isn't? Gotta problem with that?
"Gotta problem with that?"
Since I have expressed little interest in arguing Peter's points, yes, I see know reason why I should have to support his points.
That's what I thought. Thanks for showing what a pathological rightwing lying corporatist shill you are. No matter how far you try to spin the Wall $treet shit, more people are getting sick and tired of the "conservative" ideology that is destroying America in ways Osama bin laden could never have dreamed of. Not that most of us here give a fuck who wins this god damn motherfucking election but you're just going to have to accept the fact that there are those of us moderates, independent, liberals, and even fed-up-with-being-sold-out reasonable conservatives who have had enough with 28 years of America's economy getting flushed down the toilet. If you don't like it here because you can't stand the truth and nothing but the truth, pack your bags up and leave the country and settle in Iraq since you're perfectly fine as you claim because we're not gonna keep getting hypnotized by your culture war bait-and-switching forever.
"Thanks for showing what a pathological rightwing lying corporatist shill you are."
Please provide your very best example of a lie I have made anywhere on this forum. Remember to show your work.
"$treet shit,"
"give a fuck"
"god damn motherfucking"
Behold, evidence of one who does not know how to express himself in a way that makes a point relative to the discussion. When you have no point, just spew from your potty mouth, works like a charm every time, doesn't it.
oh yeah. my source for the $10.5 billion in taxes last quarter is from the Exxonn Mobile Income Statement. You can see one on Yahoo Finance if you want. let me know if you have trouble, Fred, and I can helpy ou out.
FrederickJohnson, in my first 2 days here (of many) i have yet to see anything of value come from you. do you know how much Exxonn Mobile pays in taxes per second? pure drivel.
As much as it gets back through price gouging and government subsidizations since Big Oil gets back all the money it pays in taxes anyway. Nice try but Exxon does not require welfare handouts nor does it deserve that.
duplicate, sorry my connection got hung up and i had a happy trigger finger
duplicate post, sorry.
duplicate post, sorry
Exxonn Mobile paid $10.5 Billion in taxes in their most recently reported quarter even after all these credits that you speak of. You do the math.
As to who gets hurt when they are over-taxed (like a windfall rpofit tax for example), its the other union workers in my factory that also have their life savings in their IRAs and 401ks. It's the teachers union pension fund. It's the firemen's pension fund. An excessive tax would immediatly devalue those investments. But don't forget they'd try to make it up by raising prices...their captial infrastructure will not attract investors at a lower margin. So eventually they'd be forced to make it up in higher prices.
Keep going Fred, you are proving your ignorance and invalidating your own arguments.
"Exxonn Mobile paid $10.5 Billion in taxes in their most recently reported quarter even after all these credits that you speak of. You do the math."
Like I said, government is already over-subsidizing them so they're already getting more money back than they're paying in taxes. Besides, they're spending far more taxpayer money trying to beg SCOTUS to let them not compensate the victims of the Exxon-Valdez oil spill. They knowingly hired an unlicenced captain and they deserve to pay for their crimes. And it's no different with coal and nuclear. If it weren't for Big Government subsidizing Big Oil, Coal, and Nuclear, you'd be paying as much as Europe which I think is a great idea on cutting down on gas guzzling consumers who only want to make a big deal out of their gas guzzling big butt SUVs.
"As to who gets hurt when they are over-taxed (like a windfall rpofit tax for example), its the other union workers in my factory that also have their life savings in their IRAs and 401ks. It's the teachers union pension fund. It's the firemen's pension fund. An excessive tax would immediatly devalue those investments. But don't forget they'd try to make it up by raising prices...their captial infrastructure will not attract investors at a lower margin. So eventually they'd be forced to make it up in higher prices."
Wrong. Taxes don't kill unions. Union-busting for the last 28 years by the Republicans and then some Democrats to tag it along are the main culprits. Unions were doing just fine until Raygun came in and went out of his way to kill the unions. Thanks to union busting, more illegals are getting those factory jobs.
Keep going petertheok, you are proving your ignorance and invalidating your own arguments.
**last attempt**
please read what i say carefully. i did not say taxes kill unions. taxes kill market valuation. market devaluation kills investments. more than half of Exxonn mobile is owned by institutional investors...your 401k, IRA, pensions. Look, it's pretty clear who a windfall profit tax on big oil would hurt. and it's not the ceos.
source: yahoo finance again, fred.
"taxes kill market valuation. market devaluation kills investments."
History has already proven that myth completely false but thanks for trying anyway. Besides, when Raygun and Bush II cut taxes for the wealthy and corporate elite, the economy tanked. When Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy, the market didn't do so bad. Sure, I was pissed off with NAFTA and Clinton's extension of Raygun's union busting and am nowadays a Naderite but there's no excuse for giving tax breaks for the wealthy and corporate elite who do nothing but bribe the pols when that money could be well spent for treating their employees better and clean up their own corporate conduct.
"more than half of Exxonn mobile is owned by institutional investors...your 401k, IRA, pensions."
Like I said, government and big oil simply churn the taxpayer money back and forth to each other. You, sir, are the loser.
now i understand, thanks, fred.
this is pure crap. Give up guy . You are in over your head. lizard