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Blackwater Disclosure Adds to CIA Worries
News of 'Targeted Killing' Program Precedes Interrogation Report, Possible Probe
The disclosure Wednesday of the CIA's decision five years ago to let a private security contractor help manage its sensitive effort to kill senior al-Qaeda members drew congressional criticism Thursday on the eve of key decisions by the Obama administration that current and former intelligence officials fear could compound the spy agency's political troubles.
"You are going to have a hurricane coming through Washington that is aimed right at the intelligence community," former CIA director Porter J. Goss said. (By Lucian Perkins -- The Washington Post) Those decisions include the expected release Monday of newly
declassified portions of a 2004 CIA report that questions the legality
and effectiveness of the agency's harsh interrogations at secret
prisons. Additionally, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. may order a
probe of possible criminal actions by CIA officers and contractors
during those interrogations.
"In September, you are going to have a hurricane coming through Washington that is aimed right at the intelligence community," warned Porter J. Goss, the CIA's director from September 2004 to May 2006. He noted that a Justice Department inquiry is also pending into whether laws were broken when CIA officers destroyed videotapes of the harsh interrogations.
Democratic House and Senate lawmakers and staff members have already described as inappropriate the Bush administration's decision to hand management and training responsibility for the CIA's "targeted killing" efforts to Blackwater USA, and they have reiterated their intent to press for speedier and more complete disclosure by the agency of such activities in the future. CIA Director Leon E. Panetta terminated the program in June, shortly before telling Congress about its existence.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), chairman of the intelligence committee, sharpened her previous criticism of the program. "It is clear to me that the failure to notify before now constituted a violation of law," she said in a statement Thursday.
She said she could not address the program's parameters but emphasized that it "had, in fact, gone beyond the simple planning stage."
"I have believed for a long time that the Intelligence Community is over-reliant on contractors to carry out its work," she said. "This is especially a problem when contractors are used to carry out activities that are inherently governmental."
Democrats have previously pushed to ban the use of contractors to conduct interrogations, and some suggested Thursday that the restriction should extend to hit squads. "There is still too much being done by contractors that ought to be done by government employees," said a congressional staff member who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the CIA program remains classified.
Goss said he had not been fully briefed on the details of the CIA activities in question, many of which are classified, so he could not confirm the reported involvement of Blackwater, now known as Xe Services LLC. A spokeswoman for the firm did not return a phone call Thursday, but two former intelligence officers familiar with the effort said the company had received millions of dollars for helping train and equip teams to undertake the killings.
Goss alluded to that effort, stating that "my standing orders were 'field-forward' mission."
"We wanted to catch the people who brought down the trade centers and killed innocent people and wanted to kill more," he said. "And we wanted to have every possible legal means at our disposal that we could to deal with them. That was certainly in my vision statement, and that is the briefing that was given to members of Congress" during his tenure.
"In my view, we should constantly be looking at all our options in terms of national security," Goss said. "Suppose you got a high-value guy, a terrorist, part of al-Qaeda, a radical fundamentalist trained to kill innocent people, who you cannot talk down from the tree. What happens when you actually find that guy? Do you send the FBI? That's probably not the best option for the tribal areas" in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Political controversy over conducting lethal activities overseas stems from the fact that "we have not resolved the basic rules of engagement for covert forces in the world today," Goss said. "It keeps getting pushed by the prevailing political winds." He added that the CIA, when confronted by a particularly tough problem involving a shortage of manpower, too much regulation or political indecision, has "a tendency to say, 'Let's see if we can farm this out.' That does not mean we are trying to evade a law, but to get the mission done in a creditable way."
One motive the CIA might have for hiring contractors may be to add personnel without officially enlarging its bureaucracy, Goss said. "But it's also the case that there are some folks at retirement age who still feel like they have some horsepower left, so they go off into a consulting business and make themselves available."
A former intelligence official familiar with the effort said the decision to outsource a substantial portion of the program stemmed partly from the agency's close ties to Blackwater, which hired several of the agency's top executives, including former CIA counterterrorism chief Cofer Black and former deputy director for operations Robert Richer.
A second former intelligence official intimately familiar with Blackwater's role said that there was never a formal contract, but rather a verbal agreement between top executives of the company and the agency. The former official said that the agreement covered only Blackwater's expenses and overhead, with no additional profit for the firm. "No one made a dime off of this," the former official said.
Michael V. Hayden, Goss's successor as CIA director, also declined Thursday to comment on Blackwater's involvement in the targeted killing program but told reporters that the use of contractors had ended by the time he became head of the agency in 2006. At the time he learned about it, he said, the initiative was still in the planning stages and "never reached either the political or the legal threshold" that would have triggered a mandatory congressional briefing.
"Somewhere in that mix, I probably would have gone down to talk to Congress, but . . . the threshold I probably would have first crossed was a political one, not a legal one," Hayden said. There was no specific legal requirement, he said, but "the fact was that this was maybe of a bit of a different flavor than the kinds of things we had briefed the Hill on in the past."
Presidential aides, as well as CIA officials, have said they fear that heightened controversy over the Bush administration's counterterrorism efforts will push the Obama administration into a partisan debate it has sought to avoid.
The release of the CIA report Monday -- on a date picked by a federal judge in New York in response to a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union -- will come as the president settles into his holiday at Martha's Vineyard, increasing the likelihood that it will draw attention during a political lull.
Hayden said he expects the report's release to damage CIA morale, even though some passages will bolster CIA assertions that the harsh interrogations had helped the country learn about "the basic infrastructure of al-Qaeda" and plan its counterattack.
Holder, speaking at a news conference in Washington, said the Justice Department has worked closely with the CIA in an effort to release only those portions of the report that will not compromise national security. "We will not be doing anything that will endanger the American people," Holder said.
Staff writers Ben Pershing, Anne E. Kornblut and Carrie Johnson contributed to this report.



25 Comments so far
Show AllIf anyone believes Goss they need to have their heads examined--I knew him personally when he and a bunch of his spook friends took over Sanibel Isd., Fla by starting a newspaper and pushing for a moratorium to halt building there. One time while sailboat racing against his vessel I heard him cursing out some of his crew for their sloppy techniques--Not the kind of skipper I could respect--when W picked him for director I was shocked but knew he deserved the position for his betrayal in the NAFTA vote.
Couldn't happen to a nicer pack of wolves.
Bring America Back !!!!
***WAPO basically is telling us this Report has already been leaked out, and contains nothing which will embarrass the Agency, Goss, or Team "W" any more than it already has !
**Holder is making several skip steps to create the appearance he is not the son to King Barak--the 'don't look backwards guy !!
**When Holder says the report won't contain anything compromising "national security", he means it has been redacted, edited, and combed thru for anything that would reveal war crimes, criminal activity of US Govt, and actual briefings to Congress of 'hit-man' operations.
**The post, below, of OnecaptJim, is telling of the personality and character of Porter Goss. Goss was replaced as head of CIA after revelations that he played poker at games held at the Watergate (Condo) Hotel where dancing girls were a featured part of the entertainment. Other gin swillling cronies, cigar puffing buddies, were participants.
**Prior to the CIA Position, Goss was Chairman of the US House Committee on Intelligence. One other famous member of that committee was Gary Condit--blue-dog Democrat notorious for womanizing, whose romping around is best known for his relationship to Chandra Levy. The rest is history except to say Condit lost that Democratic seat on the Committee.
**Worthy of note however, are the Alibis of Condit and his wife on the day Chandra Levy disappeared. Condit was in a meeting with none other than Richard Cheney at Vice President's offices; and wife Condit traversed the continent
from California for a Tea Party in honor of none other than
Mrs Bush--spouse of King George the "W" !! Mrs Condit shows up in jogging suit and baseball cap, so perhaps it was a very informal tea party at the White House ?? As alibis go now there are a couple of the best !
As Attorney General Holder says, let's not look back at
Porter Goss too hardly !!! Or , anybody else for that matter.
Waffle-bama will flim-flam this until it is hardly recognizable as a problem. That is what he does -- BEST.
this article showed only the tip 0f the iceberg of the length to which bush's and cheny's criminal minds wondred to avoid the nation's laws and its constitution. when obama decided against the appointment of an indepemdent prosecutor to investigate these charges, he inadvertantly became a party to these criminal decisions.
Inadvertantly??? Haha!
this is what america does and what american government gov. is.
BERLIN (AFP) - The US Central Intelligence Agency hired the private security firm Blackwater to transfer detainees from Guantanamo Bay to secret prisons in Asia for interrogation, the German weekly Der Spiegel says. Full Story »
"Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), chairman of the intelligence committee, sharpened her previous criticism of the program. "
Ooooh - Diane Feinstein sharpened her criticism. I'll bet the CIA is really frightened.
And Holder will not do anything to endanger the American people... except to give a free pass to all kinds of secret and illegal activities that suck the life out of democracy.
Unfortunately, the CIA has little cause for worry. (Once again, I am praying to be found wrong.)
Joe
The only way to end the out of control , Government withing a Government, that is the CIA is to disband it entirely.
I can not see them having done a lick of "Good" in the 40 plus years of their existence and suspect they have been involved in a lot more illegal and criminal activities then people are aware of.
Given the power they wield I do not forsee any Administration having the courage to dismantle them.
Given that fact , I do not see the that thesituation will ever be addressed.
They are for all purposes "The Untouchables".
Following on Joe's (jclientelle) point, and given my tendency to tee off at headlines, I thought "What 'worries' does the CIA really have?"
They might as well adopt a logo featuring Alfred E. Neuman as the Unknown Spook (pardon the oxymoron) with his catchphrase, "What? Me worry?" as a slogan.
The CIA is a malignant tumor. The 1975 Church committee scrutiny may have had superficial therapeutic effects, but that's the only attempt Congress has made to check, much less cure it.
The Homeland Security and Patriot Act boondoggle must have been like steroids for state security clandestine services like the CIA. There's every reason to believe that the cowboys remain in charge and business is booming.
Add to this the Unitary Executive authoritarian government attitude of "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" towards extra-legal and anti-Constitutional policies and practices in government agencies.
A dictatorial administration protects and patronizes its security services; it has no "pragmatic" interest in holding them accountable, or straining their partnership by exacerbating occasional open conflicts.
The occasional tiffs between our elected misrepresentatives and the CIA are contrived melodramas to give the impression of responsible Congressional oversight and accountability.
Whatever appalling and reprehensible truths are revealed are actually beside the point. They are just props, or plot points-- grist and fodder to fuel politicians hamming it up.
Apart from the predictable posing, and perhaps a Stern Letter or Report with Disturbing Conclusions destined from conception for neonatal consignment to the Memory Hole, there are no consequences.
This is all just busywork to perpetually distract rubes and yahoos from the dirty work.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Maybe the CIA has more to worry about than that:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
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Your absolutely right.
Quoting Goss : "We wanted to catch the people who brought down the trade centers and killed innocent people and wanted to kill more,"….. "Suppose you got a high-value guy, a terrorist, part of al-Qaeda, a radical fundamentalist trained to kill innocent people, who you cannot talk down from the tree. What happens when you actually find that guy?"
I thought this quite ironical. Goss is still trying to pretend that there is this guy called Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda organization, as if they were fighting some foreign beast.
The point being that we have all the high value terrorists, trying to kill innocent people we need. If they don't work for special operations or in the CIA they are employed by the likes of Mr. Prince's companies for higher to the rest of the alphabet soup.
Yes, they are fundamentalist NWO enterprising capitalist elitist extremists, and wanabees some of whom must have personally wired the WTC 1,2, and 7 for demolition, or the aircrafts for Fly by Wire. Where is the investigation?
The government, the military, the political system, administration, the propaganda organs and unfortunately the judiciary is rotten to the core and completely controlled.
Sure someone will call me a conspiracy theorist, but look into these organisations and you don’t need more than common sense to identify those who conspired to lie, hide, defraud, and deny. They got their wars. They got their foreign occupations. They got their trillions of dollars in contracts. They got their documentation destroyed. They got their Patriot Act. They got their TARP, plus hundreds of billions more.
They gave you the bill! Yet some still think it could not be a conspiracy! It's all just a guy hiding in Waziristan who used to work for the CIA. Sure!
Wow.
The Cheney Empire Strikes Back.
This is without a doubt Cheny vs. CIA and it's getting interesting. Keep those leaks coming you guys....
They are looking for some fall guys fast....
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
...HOPEFULLY THEY'LL ALL FALL, TOGETHER, AND VERY VERY SOON!
WE NEED THOMAS JEFFERSON NOW MORE THAN EVER!
If power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, then what is this unaccountable power that operates in secret, supposedly on our behalf? In related news, see the article on drones in today's CD headlines. The CIA is in the drone business, too, both for killing people and spying on them. This is the new freedom. Global rule by a privatized military. Ooh, don't worry, Congress will see to it that, like Goldman Sachs, they are only a force for good.
"We wanted to catch the people who brought down the trade centers and killed innocent people and wanted to kill more," he said. "And we wanted to have every possible legal means at our disposal that we could to deal with them."
Probably still hanging out in an undisclosed location...
...YEAH, LIKE; 'TEXAS,' FOR STARTERS...
Please....we have used " wet boys " for years. XE/Blackwater is no different to a thousand years ago. Ancient civilizations employed " specials. " We have to take drastic measures....these are very serious times...and will progres in a not so favorable manner...in my opinion.
Diane Feinstein is a piece of f...l matter. Check out her track record in San Fransisco.
Our prior & current administrations have caused so much grief...well it's biting our ass now. Not absolutely sure i believe 1 1/2 % of " people " are calling the shots globally.
I will not share my roles i've played....did not agree with executing orders while " restrained "...meaning not doing the job 110 %. Too many agendas...screw detante. Take care of all our peoples needs first...then the rest of the world.
All politicians should remember " for the people & by the people + our duly elected officials." Not corps., special interests $$'s, lobbyist, and all the " back scratching."
I am failing to see the difference between our locked up prison population & our duly elected officials...neither of which works and are squeezing honest citizens, tax payers.
Cannot fight a religious war...look at history. Joe Stalin & Adoolph are alive and well in this country.
I really feel safer with Homeland " Insecurity " + Patriot acts. When wiil we may be possibly yanked from our homes, cars, and be re-located, arrested, not charged, nor have any legal due process? When will new born's be chipped? Paranoia, no faith in our governenment...yes. Our people have gotten apathetic, remaining ignorant by not delving into all aspects in regards to political decisions being made from local to Washington D.C.
On 9/11, the biggest flim-flam psyop in history was pulled on the American people. Unfortunately, unlike most of the spectacular magic shows in which slight-of-hand artists make it appear that one thing is happening, when it is quite another, this one killed a lot of people. Worse, it provided the pretext that a bunch of highly corrupt, unbelievably greedy, and utterly soulless politicians wanted to justify sending thousands of our military halfway around the world to killi thousands more in the name of "protecting" America, losing thousands of them in the process. Those wars of choice - something we used to call war crimes back in the 'best generation' days, continue, and all the while the military machine grinds forward generating profit out of misery.
"Unexploded thermitic material found in abundance in World Trade Center dust".
"Government flight data recorder data does not support government story of Pentagon attack"
"Eyewitnesses place Pentagon aircraft on course North of Citgo - disproving government version of story.
Architects and engineers dispute gravity-driven "collapse" of WTC buildings.
"Official Conspiracy Theory of 19 hijackers and Osama coming apart at the seams."
All these statements are true, and anyone interested can verify them for themselves. We are getting the government we deserve because too many swallow too much government propaganda too easily. Wake up!
maturin42 ,
I was not aware there was a transcript of the "Flight data recorder" for the Pentagon "crash" of an airliner on 911. Phonied-up ATC flight path data tracks, which timestamps don't match, yes. But not a decoded "Black Box" (from the aircraft) released to the pilot community.
Could you point me to this transcript if it indeed exists? It was never published and given to Air Line Pilots, which was the standard practice for safety education prior to the Fortune 500 hijacking the government.
Thanks,
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
"...POOR MISTER JEFFERSON IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE--BUT I BELIEVE TRULY THAT BEFORE TOO LONG HIS WORDS WILL HAUNT--AND MUCH MUCH MORE--THE FORMER ADMINISTRATIONS; ESPECIALLY THE G.W. BUSH GANG, WHO MERELY TOOK WHAT THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION STARTED AND RAN WITH IT FOR ALL THEY COULD!
"...Worse, it provided the pretext that a bunch of highly corrupt, unbelievably greedy, and utterly soulless politicians wanted to justify sending thousands of our military halfway around the world to killi thousands more in the name of "protecting" America..."
SO CONCISELY AND WELL PUT--ESPECIALLY DESCRIPTIVE & APT IS THE, "unbelievably greedy, and utterly souless," PART!
IF THAT BUNCH ISN'T ANTI-CHRIST, ANTI-HUMANITY AND ANTI--EVERYTHING--GOOD, JUST, RIGHT, TRUE AND CIVILIZED, THEN I NEED TO SWITCH REALITIES...
George C. Brown - At some point, those of us who are being branded as "conspiracy theorists" will gain a lot more credibility, and maybe there will follow (by necessity) ajn increasing number of special investigations.
In the meantime, I can't help but reiterate and re-emphsize that the CIA has been more of a hindrance than a help. Out of the twenty-some "investigative agencies" (which don't seem to be able to operate cooperatively), it seems to me to be necessary to start over from the beginning and settle on one such agency.
"...We wanted to catch the people who brought down the trade centers and killed innocent people and wanted to kill more," he said. "And we wanted to have every possible legal means at our disposal that we could to deal with them. That was certainly in my vision statement, and that is the briefing that was given to members of Congress" during his tenure..."
...OH REALLY!? WELL, BUSH, CHENEY, ROVE & ASHCROFT--TO NAME A FEW--ARE STILL RUNNING FREE!