No Let-Up in US Drone War in Pakistan
WASHINGTON - The expanding US drone war against Al-Qaeda may be disrupting the terror network's operations but the lethal bombing raids carry risks for Washington and its ally Pakistan.
The head of the CIA has defended the attacks in Pakistan by unmanned aircraft as "the only game in town" when it comes to targeting Al-Qaeda and its allies. US officials credit the bombing raids with knocking off key figures in the terror network.
Yet an unknown number of civilians have died in the bombing war, possibly as many as 700, according to the Pakistani press.
The strikes are deeply unpopular in Pakistan, with skeptics warning the tactic could backfire by sowing public anger while failing to defeat resilient extremist networks.
"The more there are unilateral targeted strikes in Pakistan, the higher political costs for the US, and for Pakistan, for allowing them to happen," Seth Jones, an analyst at the RAND Corporation, told AFP.
Islamabad publicly criticizes the targeted assassinations but quietly cooperates with the Americans, Jones said, with the government allowing the use of an air base on Pakistani soil -- a detail US Senator Dianne Feinstein accidentally let slip at a hearing.
The drones, armed with lethal missiles and controlled by a "pilot" using a joystick at bases in Nevada and elsewhere, have become America's weapon of choice in the fight against Al-Qaeda.
With virtually no public debate in the United States, the pace of the bombing raids has steadily increased, starting last summer during ex-president George W. Bush's final months in office and now under President Barack Obama.
Equipped with infrared cameras, precision-guided bombs and Hellfire missiles, Predator and Reaper aircraft have carried out strikes in Pakistan at a rate of about once a week since Obama took office in January, experts and Pakistani media say.
The spike in drone attacks in Pakistan has come even as US military officers pursue new tactics in the war in neighboring Afghanistan to try to minimize civilian casualties and scale back air power where possible.
Concerned about Al-Qaeda regrouping in Pakistan's northwest, the United States began relying more on the drones after covert operations by US special forces triggered an angry reaction among Pakistanis, analysts said.
And ever since the former Bush administration reportedly stopped notifying Pakistani officials before each attack, a process that could take hours, the strikes can be carried out quickly.
In a rare public admission of the drone war, Leon Panetta, the new director of the Central Intelligence Agency, recently called the bombing "very effective."
"It is very precise, it's very limited in terms of collateral damage and very frankly, it's the only game in town in terms of confronting and trying to disrupt the Al-Qaeda leadership," Panetta said in May.
Even if the strikes are as accurate as the CIA chief claims, experts question the practical effect of the raids without ground troops, aid and other measures to back them up.
"Breaking the power of extremists means removing their power to intimidate -- something strikes cannot do," said David Kilcullen, former adviser to the US commander overseeing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, General David Petraeus.
Similar US drone strikes in Somalia in 2005-6 killed Islamist militant leaders but caused public outrage and helped the hardliners rally support, Kilcullen and former US Army officer Andrew Exum wrote in a May commentary.
"While violent extremists may be unpopular, for a frightened population they seem less ominous than a faceless enemy that wages war from afar and often kills more civilians than militants," they wrote.
The authors argued drone attacks are a tactic and not a strategy, and reflect a tendency in Washington to overstate the importance of targeting individual leaders in Al-Qaeda and associated groups.
While the drone war has ramped up, with reportedly 48 such strikes since August 2008, the threat posed by Al-Qaeda and other extremists continues unabated, analysts said.
"We are now creating a very similar problem to what the Israelis face in Gaza," said Peter Singer, author of "Wired for War."
"They've gotten very good at killing Hamas leaders. They have in no way shape or form succeeded in preventing a 12-year-old in joining Hamas," he said.
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24 Comments so far
Show AllThe Bush administration created the destruction in the Middle East, and started on Pakistan before his term was up. I am disappointed that Obama sees it though, instead of stopping it. Perhaps it was the bushees who helped him win, and he is just another patsy, and has to do what the god father wants.
They're crazy. I mean it. It's not like i'm just name calling. just look at how they talk. they are not coherent. that military babble is evidence of really certifiable insanity.
and beside that they are heartless. they know goddamn well they are killing civilians. can they possibly imagine they are the only people we get news from?
and cowards too. what a sissified way to hurt people, sitting at a computer in idaho
pakistan has repeatedly asked U S for the transfer of this drone tecnology to enable it to use it exclusively,exonorating
U S of all blames, now after the successful opration in swat, pakistan qualifies to be trusted the only friend who co-oprate with US, even beyond its means and resources, against the menace of Talaban and militancy, the huge losses of its forces in the present fight against terrorism, is the heroic evidance of pak army meaning business.
The "BOYS" are continuing to play their deadly games. Will it only stop when we have killed off all our family members? What utter insanity! Do our fellow family members not understand the stupidity of the game? I can't imagine these "drones", of all shape and sizes "belonging" to one particular nation. Our supposed "enemies" are just as smart as we are, perhaps more so. Do we actually think that we can keep this technology all to ourselves? Just how stupid are we? Do we not reap what we sow?
This drone warfare is really disgusting let's go back to good ol' carpet bombing in Nam we used to say "Kill 'em all, let God sort it out."
"virtually no debate in the United States?" So what the hell
are we doing here? Don't you numb-nut commentators, so ready to give the score, know that if people would just express themselves clearly and a lot more passionately, they could
turn a lot of rotten situations around in this country? But people don't read, write, have the ability to hold forth. And first they need the inclination.
But the commentators will be counting heads, because numerology is all they know. They wouldn't know quality language if it came up and bit them in the ass. We seem to have decided in this country that only one man knows how to speak, so he can do it for the rest of us. BUT HE IS TOTALLY ON THE WRONG SIDE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE TWO WARS HE "SURGED" IN AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN.
Common sense therefore says we should try to convince him to change his mind as a first goal, get him on our side (we definitely need him for his audience and speaking skills).
That makes it apparently inadvisable to ridicule him. But
ridicule was ultimately the only thing that worked with the
preceding supporter of these wars. No one will ever convince that puppy of anything-- perhaps the most uneducable person in American history.
President Obama apparently has a mind, however, although the jury is still out as with a lot of lawyers (so left brain and full of caveats and piddliness and inability ever to see
a total picture). Okay, that's a hasty generalization. Sorry, my lawyer friends.
But we need more gatherers and less hunters turning their mind to Afghanistan, less humorless and inhuman dopes trying for the impossible win. Isn't Barack Obama smart enough to LEARN when something is IMPOSSIBLE? Everybody should concentrate on making him think about the problem, employ some imagination.
Health care is possible. The two (okay, three) wars are impossible and not worth another life or dollar.
No Let-Up in US Drone War in Pakistan by Dan De Luce
"the lethal bombing raids carry risks for Washington and its ally Pakistan".
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Is this a sick joke ? ? ? ? ?
Its a "risk" for Washington but the risk for innocent men women and children in Pakistan is death on a daily basis.
Its risky but OK to kill Muslims by remote control and the Judeo/Christian Crusade is "Legal".
American MSM has the nerve to paint the Muslims as terrorists when the Christian USA and the Israeli Jews are killing and terrorizing Muslims 24/7 ? ? ? ? ?
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90% of drone causalties are civilians.
"It is very precise, it's very limited in terms of collateral damage and very frankly, it's the only game in town in terms of confronting and trying to disrupt the Al-Qaeda leadership," Panetta said in May.
Translation: we're only killing a few brown folks. Keep it up, you've no idea of the mess you're creating--and there will be blowback.
Ohhh... we are going after A.Q leadership because of their skin color... Silly me thought it was because they are terrorists...I always learn something new on this site.
It's good to get a perspective of the Hellfire missile used on the Predator and the Reaper drones. No wonder the civilian deaths/collateral damage is so high. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHPVDRXKGfc
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NMBill is right on. You had better watch out. The department of homeland security has recently tested an unmanned predator drone over NYC as a test to monitor "drug traffickers" and "suspicious activities" along our border with Canada. Pretty soon some wacko in Nevada may mistake your car, your home, your party as a "suspicious activity", and poof!
Welcome to what might turn into an occupied Amerika, complete with border fences and a new US Army Northern Command unit to assist with "homeland" defense. And yeah, and they hate us for our freedom.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety".
Ben Franklin, 1776
It doesn't even need to blow up, just send an object down like a silent bullet, with a team standing by to load you up before anybody notices.
You are just another missing person!
'No Let-Up in US Drone War in Pakistan' About time there's some good news around here! Give 'em hell!
Ah, yes! The joysticks and the men and woman who control them. Totally devoid of feeling for human life. Killing and maiming innocent men woman and children (God's children) a World away. They sleep good at night.
I guess Pakistan was also responsible for the attacks of September eleventh, two thousand and one?
The Pakistani, Afghan and Iraqi people being slaughtered like bloody cattle, they are are merely collateral damage in the pernicious escapade of Middle East hegemony, this abhorrent wheel of mendacity.
Bring America Back !!!!.............!...The MI Complex is obviously very proud of its Drones.
**For example, if THEY want to minimize loss of life for example, they could program a drone to hit one certain side of the Pentagon which is under construction so that the fewest numbers of people would be at work.;...it could be the very opposite side of the Puzzle Palace from where the Sec Def himself was 'working' (why put a drone in the lap of the Sec Def, anyway?) ; it would leave no jumbo jet engines or fusilage, nor human remains in a rather small
hole in the side of the Pentagon. Yet, when looking at the darn nose cone of the Drone from a distance, or from a foggy picture==the darn nose could be mistaken for that of a 757 !
Yep, they are real proud of those Drones, and they do not require nearly as much jet fuel as the big Jumbos, either ! Forgive short memory, but did this French journalist just say the Head of the CIA defends the use of these Drones, and is likewise very proud of them, too ???? CIA, Dulles International, Drones,
methinks the little devils just might be up to something. I wonder what it
could be ??? Anybody know where the regional offices of the CIA were on
Sept 11, 2001 ???, in NYC, lower Manhattan, Building #7, World Trade Center,
Saloman Brothers Building.
I wonder just what the little devils are up to ????
Drones, yes, ingenious little patsy drones. Only spooks can ride on Drones.
WHA?
Oh, I get it ... it was a drone inside job.
This comes down to kids with joysticks in a Nevada desert killing people on the other side of the world.
They are also flying drones out of Cannon airforce base in New Mexico thanks to the states liberal senators and governor.
I heard a radio interview with one of these brave fighters in Nevada.. He had been flying them out of the middle east.. He said that Nevada was much better because he could render actions(kill human beings) in the morning and go home and have lunch with his children.....Is this a brave country or what.
Does this seem like the war in Spain before ww2 that all the boys got to test out there new war machines..Just like kids in a play pin....
Put a smiley face on the flag >>>.the red white and blue and yellow!!!
This is going to give model airplanes a bad name.
Bring America Back !!!!.........!....My dear Mr Curtis, if you will re:read this
'French' article more closely, you will find that you are accusing the head
of our CIA of playing with 'model airplanes'. How unpatriotic.
Imagine this going on in the skies of the U.S.!
Everything you do you would feel like you were being watched.
Every move you would make you would have to be careful not to LOOK suspicious.
If you were doing something they are watching for, you would have to camouflage your actions. Which is what I believe is going on over in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
As in any insurgency, they try to blend in! This makes it very hard to tell the difference between people active in resisting our occupation of their country, and the average citizen of that country who just wants to live in peace.
The enemy IS anyone who hates the U.S. for occupying their country.
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Turn that around, imagine another country flying drones over our skies watching us. Do you think we would stand for that or would we FINALLY revolt against our government for letting that happen. I think that would push us over the edge! We let our own government lie and rob us to the poor house and only whine about it, but something like this would unite Democrats, Republicans and Third Party people.