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Israel Vows 'Disproportionate' Strike on Hamas
JERUSALEM - Israel vowed to strike back at Hamas on Sunday after renewed rocket fire from the Islamists' Gaza stronghold two weeks after the end of a bloody war in the battered Palestinian territory.
Palestinians carry objects found in the rubble of the destroyed houses in the area that was devastated in the last Israeli military offensive, east Jebaliya, northern Gaza Strip, Saturday, Jan. 31, 2009. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue) "We've said that if there is rocket fire against the south of the country, there will be a severe and disproportionate Israeli response," Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said at the weekly cabinet meeting.
Israel -- which goes to the polls on February 10 -- has been hit by several rockets since a January 18 ceasefire brought an end to its 22-day war on the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.
"We will act according to new rules that will guarantee that we are not dragged into an incessant tit-for-tat war that will not allow normal life in the south of the country," Olmert said.
"The situation... in recent days has increased in a manner that does not allow Israel not to retaliate in order to make sure that our position... is understood by those involved in the fire.
"The response will come at the time, the place and the manner that we choose."
Defence Minister Ehud Barak said that "Hamas was given a very serious blow and if necessary it will be given another blow."
And Benjamin Ben-Eliezer, infrastructure minister and a member of Israel's powerful security cabinet, said the Islamists had to pay for each rocket fired.
"We have set a price for each rocket fired and now Hamas has to pay," he told army radio.
The officials spoke after four rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel within the space of a few hours on Sunday.
But Hamas slammed the Israeli threats as a "campaign stunt" before the election.
"This is an attempt... to destroy the Egyptian efforts to improve the calm," Taher Al-Nunu said in a statement in Gaza.
Next week's election is expected to bring the Israeli right-wing back into power, according to opinion polls.
Olmert, forced to step down in September amid corruption probes, is not standing and his centrist Kadima party -- now led by Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni -- is trailing behind the right-wing Likud of former premier Benjamin Netanyahu.
In the aftermath of the Gaza war, the issue of security has jumped to the forefront of the election campaign.
The Hamas spokesman did not say whether the Islamists who rule Gaza were behind the rocket fire, but called on "all groups to respect the national decision concerning the ground situation in Gaza."
The Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a group loosely linked to president Mahmud Abbas's Fatah movement, claimed responsibility for firing two projectiles on Sunday.
In all, at least seven rockets had been fired since mutual ceasefires by Israel and Hamas on January 18 ended Israel's massive three-week onslaught on the territory that left more than 1,300 Palestinians dead. Thirteen Israelis were killed.
Egypt has been leading international efforts to consolidate the ceasefires into a lasting truce, and Abbas is to head to Cairo on Sunday for talks on the situation. Hamas officials are also due in the Egyptian capital.
Ahmed Yussef, a senior Hamas member, told AFP that the talks in Cairo were proceeding in a "positive direction," without elaborating.
A senior Israeli defence official would only say that "Israel demands two conditions -- the total cessation of fire and an end to arms smuggling. Israel is only holding talks with Egypt on this issue."
Abbas's secular Fatah party and its rival Hamas have been at odds since the Islamists violently seized power in Gaza in June 2007, kicking out pro-Abbas forces after days of ferocious street battles.
The schism has been accentuated by the Gaza war, with Hamas's exiled supremo Khaled Meshaal calling in its wake for a new leadership to replace Abbas's Palestine Liberation Organisation, long internationally recognised as the sole representative of the Palestinian people.
Meshaal was in Tehran on Sunday for his first post-Gaza war visit to the Islamic republic that staunchly supports his movement.
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Show AllDidn't they already do that?
I was going to ask the very same thing.
Unbelievable!
Hamas broke the ceasefire - and you blame Israel!
Let me repeat: Hamas broke the ceasefire knowing that Israel would retaliate.
Could it be any clearer?
Hamas wants war.
Israel wants peace.
This event proves that.
Again: Hamas broke the ceasefire knowing that Israel would retaliate.
Is there anything Hamas could do that all of you terrorism-apologists wouldn't excuse?
Have a cow why don't you. And BTW JoeHope as long as my tax dollars go to Israel and Israel is committing these atrocities in my name, I'll say something about it even it offends your little Zionist sensibilites.
Bart Simpson? How old are you?
… ( likely ) old enough to know that those who blindly follow the neoCONer agenda supporting Zion, are never PROGRESSIVE in the dictionary sense.
Of course, there is that aspect of the progressive decline in morality and humankindess -- while striving viciously to obtain maximal avariciousness.
… how tedious ( and predictable ) …
Namaste
npwr.luv,
I happen to despise the Neocons. That's one of the many reasons I voted for Obama.
As far as being a progressive, since when was it considered progressive to support an Islamo-fascist terrorist group that teaches children to murder Jews?
The term "Islamo-Fascist" is a neocon term. You've just blown your cover neocon!
There hasn't been a fresh idea out of the political Left since the death of Stalin. Not content with mere failure and stagnation, the Left has gone off chasing Third World fascists and antisemites.
Over on the political Right, there has been a great deal of intellectual ferment and re-thinking. Part of this re-thinking, has been the general repudiation of antisemitism.
And this is the story about how the supporters of Arab police states ended up on the Left, while urbane liberal Jews moved to the Right.
… you'd be terrible trying to direct traffic
[ having so much trouble with things going left ]
Namaste
¿ … since when was it considered progressive to support an Zionist-fascist terrorist country ( Israel ) that teaches children to murder Palestinians ?
Actually it has been proven Israel broke the ceasefire! Mark Regev the Israeli spokesperson said so. I do not agree with Hamas's policies but I will get the facts straight Joe.
http://jillevans.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/israeli-government-admits-hamas-did-not-break-ceasefire/
If you are going to post nonsense like that, at least keep up to date.
You didn't look on at the date on the link you have provided did you?
January 15, 2009
And what's the date today?
February 1, 2009
So which violation of the ceasefire are we talking about here?
I know today is the Super Bowl, but are you drunk, DCBeltway1?
'"We will act according to new rules that will guarantee that we are not dragged into an incessant tit-for-tat war that will not allow normal life in the south of the country," Olmert said.'
What an idiot! First, what he is proposing is doing just that - dragging Israel into an endless tit-fot-tat war. Secondly, he is doing once again what Israel has done with consistent folly for many years - allowing minor breaches of a cease-fire to become an excuse for ending the cease-fire altogether. Finally, he is claiming that his "new rules" guarantee a result. Just as politicians should never say "never", they should never say "I guarantee this result."
Didn't Olmert have a zero approval rating in Israeli oppinion polls a year or two ago? Well-deserved, judging by his current antics.
and Obama remains silent, therefore complicit...
Actually, Obama stands by his countless statements supporting Israel and condemning Hamas.
Don't forget his support for Israel's retaliation against Hezbollah in Lebanon.
So like it or not (I'm sure you don't) but Obama is clearly committed to fighting terrorism and maintaining our friendship with Israel.
He's only "complicit" in stopping random attacks against innocent civilians. Thank G*d.
Hamas=Iran
Evidence, please.
Israel is working on that. When they want the truth, they will manufacture it for you.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Reread the last two sentences in this article.
From Shia Teheran, watching Sunni Arabs and American-allied Yahood killing one another, is like getting paid to eat ice cream. What Khalid Meshaal gets: he gets to be Yasser Arafat, King of Palestine-in-exile, with all of the palaces and globe-trotting that goes with the position.
Judy predicts: neither Syria nor Hizbollah-Lebanon will enter this conflict, no matter what Israel does to the Gazans. Here's why: a war with Israel would threaten Shia interests in the region.
As for the Palestinians, they want to be shaheeds, more than anything. One should be careful of what one asks for.
… lets see where this logic goes …
¿ All of IRAN is as powerless and totally subjugated
as is ALL of Palestine, as currently Hamas is in Gaza ?
I smell another asymmetric situation, where the facts are just mere petty details -- in the way of the arrogantly Rachel-killing steamrolling bull-spewing dozer of Zion.
I'm glad you still hang out here.
Hamas = Iran + Syria
Judy Levy and Joehope: The Tokyo Rose and Lord Haw Haw of Zionism.
In the article's penultimate paragraph:
"...Abbas's Palestine Liberation Organisation, long internationally recognised as the sole representative of the Palestinian people."
Come again? "Internationally" recognised, eh? What about those pesky elections, which were truly internationally certified and from which Hamas emerged as the decisive victor? Thus let me rephrase that same quote as above:
"...Abbas's Palestine Liberation Organisation, long recognised by the U.S. and Israel and their European stooges as the sole representative of the Palestinian people."
There. That sounds a little closer to reality.
Remember the Strategy as it was the same used on the West bank. Naked violent aggression against the palestinians ensuring large civilan casualties so as to raise the anger towards the israeli state.
Along with this target the POLICE and the Infrastructure so that In the former case Fatah, and in this latter case Hamas, can no longewr adequately police their own.
Provoke as necessary with raids, shellings and further bombings.
When the inevitable splinter group sends a few missiles israels way, proclaim victimhood and declare hamas unwilling to police their own, followed by more massive strikes on Gaza.
Repeat ad naseum.
Why is the no mention of the Israeli ceasefire violations? Israel had already violated the cease-fire at least 7 times, the Israeli military killing 3 Palestinians (2 civilian) and injuring at least a dozen, including children.
* Israeli forces killed a Palestinian farmer in Khuza'a east of Khan Yunis on the morning of Jan 18
* Israeli forces killed a Palestinian farmer east of Jabalia on Jan 19
* Israeli naval gunboats shelled the Gaza coast line, causing damage to civilian structures on Jan 21
* Israeli troops shot and injured a child east of Gaza City on Jan 22
* Israeli gunboat fire injured 4-7 Palestinian fishermen on Jan 22
* Israeli shelling set a Palestinian house on fire on Jan 22
* Israeli tanks fired on the border town of Al Faraheen, causing damage to homes and farms on Jan 24
This list does not include two Palestinian children who were killed on January 20th by unexploded ordnance left from Israel's 22-day assault.
How many killed and injured from those seven rockets? And who violated the cease fire first? Note the date and time of the first item above.
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How about a disproportionate response to these? Like, for every "collateral" death - 10 million US dollars off US aid to Israel. Likewise, another $10 million for each new house built on an illegal settlement in the West Bank.
Please everyone -------- Ignore the israeli propagandists. Do not bother to argue.It is a waste of time, energy and blog space. Let us discuss how we will get the USA and the world to subdue them.
How can we get the USA congress and Mr. Obama Emanuel to act and speak ethically?
We need to boycott anything an arms manufacturer or zionist ( including your neighborhood zionist)is associated with. With so few dollars circulating a boycott is more effective. Do not patronize a zionist unless they are willing to renounce israels policy.
We need to tell the congressional supporters of atrocities that we will let the republicans win next time in an attempt to save a people from annihilation.
------------ Thanks ----------- Peace ---------------------------
Good suggestion. Boycott Zionist Israel and all that support it.
Sure, why not. and, instead, send all the money to the arab terrorists. That seems to be your thinking. of course, you, like many of the uneducated anti-semites, fail to see that the arabs are the terrorists that started this madness; they lobbed missiles into Israel killing civilians for many, many years before Israel finally said enough and fought back. Second, these arab terrorists (the palestinians) have no right to be in the land of Israel in the first place. these arab terrorists should return to their arab homelands (saudi arabia, jordan, syria) except, of course, those arab countries don't want them, but will use them as pawns in their war against the Jewish state. wake up you racist, lover of terrorism. I wonder how you and the other anti-Israel dipshits on this blog will feel when these arab terrorists come again to the U.S. and slaughter Americans, with your full support of these arab terrorists. The Israeli's won't, but the arab's have and will. You are anti-American to be a supporter of arab terrorism.
You really are on the wrong website, honey. Your racist diatribes don't work here. The jig is up for your lying sort. The American progressive community doesn't buy your narrative any more. And there is so much violence in your words that I don't doubt that it is you who are the terrorist, in your thoughts, actions, and in your support for your terrorist state of Israel. Why don't you learn to love your fellow humans instead of hating them. I would feel sorry for you but for the fact that so many people like you make it possible for Israel to commit the crimes that it does.
Hi Clovis, I hope you don't get flack for saying that. Every time I tell these Zionist and GW Bush loving shills that they are on the wrong website, some Starbucks pseudoprogressive comes on and whines that I am censoring them and that we should allow all points of view yada yada yada. I like to remind these self righteous clowns that CD is a sanctuary for people who want alternative viewpoints instead of lamestream media talking points. Good luck to you.
"The American progressive community doesn't buy your narrative any more."
I am a progressive Democrat. I happen to agree with spkatz57. So don't speak for me! It's not your job to police this forum and decide who has a right to speak and who doesn't. That's not very "progressive" of you. Unless by "progressive" you really mean "Stalinist".
Nader and McKinney (both violently anti-Israel) received less than 1% of the vote. McKinney got 161,195 votes and Nader got 736,804 votes. That's your anti-Israel/pro-hamas group - less than 1 million people.
Obama (who is a progressive and still supports Israel) received 69,456,897 votes or 52.9% of the vote. These progressives voters (like myself) voted to support Israel. You don't speak for us.
How can Nader and McKinney be violently anti-Israel? What have they done to Israel that was so violent? It's put up or shut time for you JoeHope.
"How can Nader and McKinney be violently anti-Israel? What have they done to Israel that was so violent? "
Support Hamas.
If someone supports Al Qaeda can I not say that they are violently anti-American?
Telling people to "shut up" isn't "progressive", it's a Bill O'Reilly tactic.
Al(CIA)da is Amerikan.
The more appropriate word for Nader and McKinney would most likely be vehement, not violent.
McKinney is indeed a racist nutball. So is her father.
I lived in Atlanta when she was in Congress.
Joe you are a Democrat I agree 100% there but progressive no way. Deal with it.
Deal with it? You put you in charge of assigning labels to people other than yourself?
Fine. I can play your game too. You aren't a progressive, you support Islamic terrorism.
Deal with it.
Nope I support peace. I do not support terrorism at all coming from any political party, organization, or religion on this earth. I also do not support state-sponsored terrorism.
You support Hamas.
The views and platforms of Nader or Mckinney would be quite mainstream or even moderate-right in much of the world, notably Europe. Only in the off-the-chart-to-the-right USA does your definition of "progressive" apply.
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PJD, what you fail to mention when you say “The views and platforms of Nader or Mckinney would be quite mainstream or even moderate-right in much of the world, notably Europe” is the fact that Europe is undergoing Islamization. Watch Geert Wilders theory of the "Islamization Of Europe" and you will see what’s happening in Europe.
I doubt that there is as much of a European constituency for nepotism, public drunkenness, and antisemitism as you imagine.
I sense your anger, spkatz57, but also agree with the points you make.
You are welcome here on CD.
Don't let the pro-Hamas bullies beat you down.
It's the Zionists that are the REAL bullies.
Welcome to CD. Now get lost!
winning ticket: "It's the Zionists that are the REAL bullies."
"Welcome to CD. Now get lost!"
Ha!
I agree with DC Beltway: Democrat yes, progressive, don't make me laugh. To my great dismay--and, I believe, to the great dismay of many of the progressive CD posters--"progressive Democrat" has become a contradiction in terms. There are a few dinosaurs out there that the Dems keep around as as a figleaf of progressive credibility--such as Dennis Kucinich, bless his heart--but it's all window dressing. There is not a single progressive in Obama's cabinet, which as many have pointed out is far more rightwing than Bill Clinton's first cabinet. Oh how we wish there was a progressive alternative WITHIN the two-party system. But the sad fact is, there isn't and hasn't been for a very long time. That fools like Joe Hope can so cavalierly wrap themselves in the claim to progressivism while defending the wanton slaughter of innocents shows how meaningless the term has become. And in any case they know in their hearts that they are nothing of the sort, since they cling to atavistic notions of state, militarism, and religion that are the bane of the modern world. And in their defense of the indefensible, the hate fairly seeps through their words.