MINNEAPOLIS - Police and local and federal officials in St. Paul, Minnesota are under fire from independent media groups for their crackdown on reporters at this week's Republican National Convention.
"We are concerned that police in St. Paul prevented journalists from covering a breaking story," said Committee to Protect Journalists
Executive Director Joel Simon on Tuesday. "We urge authorities to drop
any pending charges and allow journalists to continue with their work."
The New York-based group, which monitors media suppression around the world, condemned the arrest of four journalists who were documenting the confrontational end to an otherwise peaceful antiwar protest on the opening day of the Convention.
Well-known television and radio personality Amy Goodman, host of the nationally syndicated program Democracy Now!, was arrested when inquiring about the condition of camerawoman and producer Nicole Salazar and sound technician Sharif Abdel Kouddous.
In a video of Goodman's arrest, onlookers can be heard in the background calling for police to "release the accredited journalists now."
Salazar shot footage of her own arrest, where she can be heard shouting "press! press!" as she is shoved to the ground by baton-wielding police who ran directly at her and told her to "get the hell out of here!" Once on the ground, the police repeatedly yell at Salazar to "get down on your face." The camera flips over, recording three screams -- apparently from Salazar -- and then cuts off. [Watch Salazar describe her detention]
A fourth journalist, Associated Press photographer Matt Rourke, was also arrested during the protest. All four journalists were released within hours of their arrest, though several had their press passes confiscated, apparently by federal Secret Service agents.
"It was very clear who I was," Goodman told media after her release. "I had all my credentials hanging from my neck. 'Look -- these are my credentials,' I said. A Secret Service agent walked up to me and said, 'Oh really?' and ripped my credentials off my neck."
Kouddous told the Committee to Protect Journalists that the same agent also confiscated his daily press pass.
Distinguishing Between Press and Protesters
The National Association of Hispanic Journalists called on police and local and federal officials to "respect the First Amendment right to free speech and free press of journalists doing their job."
"In this era of new technology and broader participation in citizen and independent journalism, it may become increasingly difficult for police to tell journalists from those who are not," the group said. "But police must be aware it is their duty to try, and to respect the role of the press in a democracy. When the media has credentials, as was the case with Goodman and other journalists arrested, the police should have a much easier job."
The Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ), meeting this week in Atlanta, said: "Police have a duty to protect and serve the public. So, too, do journalists serve the public interest. SPJ doesn't object to the police stopping violence. Rather, we are merely alarmed by the disconcerting trend of journalists being treated as if they are a threat to public safety, when they are clearly fulfilling their roles as professional reporters.
Media Intimidation Alleged
The nonpartisan media reform group Free Press has said Monday's arrests were part of "an orchestrated round up of independent [media] covering the Republican National Convention."
Police also raided a home where independent journalists were staying over the weekend before the Convention began. The journalists were working for a media organization known for documenting police crackdowns against protesters, especially during the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York City.
I-Witness Video's documentary work helped to get charges dropped against over 400 people arrested during the 2004 Convention, according to Elizabeth Press, who works with the group and was in the house that was raided over the weekend. Police surrounded the house for several hours on Saturday, while waiting for a warrant to arrive.
When the warrant arrived, it was for the adjoining apartment in the duplex house, but the police entered the apartment where the journalists were staying anyway -- through an attic door. The police then detained the journalists for approximately an hour, along with those in the adjoining apartment, including the owner of the duplex house, and searched the journalists' belongings.
"I feel like it's an intimidation tactic," Press told The UpTake, a live video documentary group that is also keeping tabs on protests and police activity during the Convention. "I-Witness Video has been in the news lately -- in the New York Times, and all over the Internet."
During the previous week, I-Witness Video's colleagues in Minneapolis had their computer and video equipment seized, said the group's Eileen Clancy, in a report filed during Saturday's raid.
And on Wednesday, offices being rented by I-Witness Video for its work during the Convention were entered by police wielding batons and a battering ram. Officers said they had reports of anarchists taking hostages within the building.
An attorney working in the building, Geneva Finn, showed the officers around to clarify that there were no hostages being held.
"[The officers] did a pull-up on the frame of I-Witness' door, looked in, saw that there were people in there -- nobody was being held hostage," said Finn during an impromptu press conference after the incident. "I then asked the police to leave, since no one was obviously being held hostage here, and they refused. Eventually their head sergeant came here, and decided that they could leave the building."
I-Witness Video was subsequently asked by their landlord to leave the premises due to the police attention they had attracted.
"The St. Paul police came after us with unfounded allegations that we were engaged in criminal behavior. This harassment has interfered with our ability to do the work of documenting the policing of protests that we have come to St. Paul to do," the group said in a statement.
50,000 Demand Press Freedom
"We condemn the arrest and harassment of journalists before and during the Republican National Convention," said Free Press executive director Josh Silver. "We call on the mayor, district attorney, and police chief to rein in the overly aggressive -- and even violent -- tactics of law enforcement. Arresting and detaining journalists for doing their jobs is a gross violation of free speech and freedom of the press."
In just over 2 days, Silver's group has gathered over 50,000 names on a petition to the mayor's office, the Republican National Convention Host Committee, and other local officials demanding an end to the aggressive and violent tactics used against journalists in recent days.
"Reporting by independent journalists is the only way for the American public to learn the full story, and they must be free to do their jobs without intimidation," Silver added.
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Show AllI want to preserve the Republican way of life. The corporate health care at 2 trillion dollars a year that produces a host of chronic diseases and prescriptive treatment that only the wealthy can afford. I want to subsidize the bank that owns my home, lord knows the elite coffers are without limits and the 3% that actually benefit from the vast resources this country has to offer are not full yet. I totally want more armed goons reading my mail and those survellience cameras at every intersection and strip mall make me feel, well connected. Ah, the artifical smell of other peoples laundry first thing in the morning. Lets not forget the high fractose corn syrup, a little something to get you though your day of hard work (work will set you free), and think of all the money you will save by not having a retirement account. Nope it is an early grave and your corporate kids will finish paying off that mortgage. Could life be any better?
now what? get the hell out in the streets of your town and demand justice! email st. paul mayor and scream!
Thanks Heavyrunner,
What a great personal account. The Founding fathers all warned us of the dangers of big political machines; but we didn't heed them. They cautioned against the evils of political party but the nasty hydra poked it's head up on the second presidential election. John Adams refused to join either the Federalist or Anti-Federalist party and they punished him so that his chances of re-election were dashed.
We have been cursed with political dirty tricks against the people ever since.
I think all of us wondered "What would today be like if Germany had won WWII.
Now we know.
What might we see in the elections of 2008?????
I heard the word "Embedded Media" once used by someone who claimed that Amy Goodman should have been embedded. I gather embedded means you are an approved media that reports what those in control want reported.
23 Reporters and Photographers were targetted and killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Daniel Pearle was assassinated and his writings destroyed because he was not embedded and the Assassin was named by Benazir Bhutto and protected by the ISI.
Kellogg, Brown, and Root was given a contract in 2006 to build "Detention Centers" throughout the United States.
"If you are not with us, you are against us." And, therefore you are my enemy.
So, what does Germany have to do with what is going on today. In the early 50´s, 1600 Nazi Scientists and Psychologists were brought into the United States redocumented and put to work in the Department of Defence and the newly established CIA.....the operation was known as "Operation Paper Clip".
What were the techniques learned by those two U.S. Governmental Agencies? From the 2000 and 2004 elections to the apparent demolition of World Trade Center #7,from the use of "Fear" to creating an "Enemy", from the fabrication of false documents and perjured testimony before the UN General Assembly and US Congresses evolved the Invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and the construction of U.S Oil Company Pipelines and 75% of oil revenues for U.S.Oil companies and 25% for the Iraqi Government.
"They", the Political and Corporate Elite, are not finished with us. "They" want it all and "They" have total control from the Media to the Highest Court. It took "Them" a several years and a President. But, "They" did it.
Hm. Interestingly selective in its facts, this article. The Mayor of St Paul's isn't some sinister Republican. He's a Democrat. And given the penchant for repression of free speech by intimidation (on line rather than physical, but still, repression) displayed by Obots attacking Mrs Clinton and her supporters, I'd say America's problem extends beyond the current Republican party. Violent words and actions seem to be the preferred mode of political debate in the home of "the free". Whatever happened to calm and reasoned analysis and exchange of ideas? Not sexy enough to grab the attention?
It's 1984, Big Brother is watching, we are fighting for peace, protesters are a threat to freedom and the police state is here to protect you.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.."--JFK
This is what the "law and order" set is wanting so they can crush those who oppose their agenda with superior firepower and the misused monopoly on the legal use of violent force granted them by society. But the revolutionaries are smarter than that. They know they are regularly infiltrated by informants, they also know that such tactics are seeking to provoke violent conduct and response.
What the law enforcement community is rapidly forgeting is how vastly outnumbered they are by those whose freedoms they subjugate. Without public cooperation law enforcement is "mission impossible". With increasing rapidity they are tearing down any shred of remaining respect increasing numbers of ordinary people once had for their uniforms and badges.
Slowly and steadily their plainly marked cars, obvious uniforms, and badges will make all of them, good and bad, targets of retribution. When that happens and we descend to the rule of mob violence, the law and order crowd will have only themselves to blame but we will all suffer as a result.
Poet
It is all about who gets to decide and becoming who gets to determine what and how you think. Religion was hijacked a long time ago but has lost a lot of it's power to science. Science is a much broader based way of looking at the world or just about anything. It shapes everything from politics to reproduction and no one has to really ask for permission. (note you live in a scientifically controlled environment and religion is more of an after thought) It destroys creativity and diversity. It is why half the population is overweight and obese and have chemical dependencies, many just to stay alive. Nature, the natural world of which you are apart is disappearing before your very eyes and because it has been taken away slowly you bearly notice. You have to be impeccable to be a warrior.
The email of the police chief of St Paul is john.harrington@ci.stpaul.mn.us , in case anyone wants to complain
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Our "FREE PRESS-MEDIA" are the 1st victims of a Fascist takeover.
BUSH & CHENEY and their NEOCONS gang have ignored and subverted the Bill of Rights and the U.S. Constition. They are establishing a NEW CENTURY AMERICAN EMPIRE.
McCAIN & PALIN are the next step in a NEOCONS Fascist Takeover.
****Save our Democracy**** defeat ALL REPUBLICAN candidates in NOVEMBER !!!!!
IMPEACH Bush and Cheney..............NOW !!!!!!!!!!!
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There is the underlying irony of this issue in every post.
'Freedom.'
That ubiquitous word, attempting to be defined by those who profess to live under it's sunshine, it's laughing face, it's tearful eyes, it's thousands of law books containing the city, county, state and federal laws and policies that do precisely what the 'Constitution' was written to prevent.
Laws, that are not natural laws, are the pawns on a chessboard. Easily sacrificed or discarded in the attempt to dominate the center of the board, and thus, the strategic 'win.'
In a 'democratic, representative Republic,' such as those alive now in it find ourselves, it is minimally that which it originally aspired. Even as the originators themselves redirected the meaning of '...all men are created equal...'
When the heirs of wealthy, industrial, financial, scions such as the Bush family are even permitted to hold a Federal office after being found guilty of seditious, treasonous business practices that enabled the Nazis in WWII, and had those financial and industrial investments impounded by the Federal government in a court of law, illustrates the depravity, the superficial strength of the 'three branches of government.'
You may argue the facile position that one member of a family is not legally binding on other family individuals. Especially corporate driven profit seeking without regard for 'patriotism.' Yet all those family individuals have assets under those names to prevent the confiscation of those assets. Legal papers drawn prior to intrusion by lawyers where only a date and signature is required for the transference and protection of assets.
The generational vengeance to redeem pre-conceived notions of grievance as instituted by Bush and his enablers should be evidence enough that any and all laws, policies, signing statements and foreign relations be rescinded and rethought.
While local 'authorities' step back from their embrace of Federal money for the dissolution of this Republic, which is the qualifier, unwritten, in the granting of taxpayer funds by criminals who claim to be 'elected.'
Laws, in their passage, in their interpretation, and in their enforcement always involve a negotiation, a negotiation between opposing parties with inconsistent interests. When some parties are much more powerful, in whole or in part because of the possession of much greater financial resources, the negotiation can become so one-sided it is as if the law did not exist or at least that the interests of the opposing party that the law purports to protect did not exist. That is why in the US, as in virtually any country, when there is a huge disparity in income, a highly polarized income and wealth distribution, the laws and the constitution become pretty much meaningless. The corporate elites and the politicians they control know this and are doing all they can to accelerate the process of such polarization.
As for the Bush family history, including the involvement of Prescott Bush in financing the Nazis, a great source is Kevin Phillips' "American Dynasty," one of the best books you will find on US politics in the 20th Century. According to Phillips, who is clearly not sympathetic to W or the Bushes, Prescott Bush was involved with a company that helped finance the Nazis, but so were many, many other US elites, including many Democrats, so everyone just wanted to sweep that under the rug. And Phillips goes into the history of many other Bush family schemes and connections over the decades that may be more troubling.
I am aware of the book, but as of yet have not read it.
I can only agree with most of what you post. However, the fact of Prescott's conviction still remains, I believe, a motivating factor in the psychology of the Bush family for it's concealed hate for American government and their cynical manipulations for personal enrichment and that of loyal business associates.
As for the 'negotiation of laws' by parties with opposing and inconsistent interests, there is a distinct difference between a contractual agreement to resolve 'opposing' and 'inconsistent interests.' Law is written, ineffectually, to protect the person, property, rights of all interested parties and to increase the revenue of towns, cities and counties, state government and the federal government with the SCOTUS emphasizing freedom of speech as a quantifiable commodity and person as a corporate shill. That is the devolution of the intent of American law you articulate. Thus, more law respecting corporate will and protection with less and less, or removed, law for the common good, humans etc.
I will get the book, I've put it off to long. There are many others, from literary to economic history I have read that describe what we all are discussing and musing over.
Peace.
If I were Bush-Cheney-Rove and pals after 9-11 and thought as they think, here's what I'd have done. I'd look at those darn liberal whistleblowers in the FBI like Coleen Rowley, and I'd think: Too many liberals in the CIA and FBI ever since Hoover left and COINTELPRO was exposed, and all these FISA laws came to be. I'd try to make a clean slate and start fresh, recruit pro-military, pro-police, no limits, neocon-sympathizers.
I'd start a new intelligence department. I'd call it Homeland Security. Then at the RNC in St. Paul, I'd get those police in riot gear, mostly imported police from other places, or homeland security direct hires. I'd see to it that the local police, that might have relatives in the area, were assigned to the edges of the action, at a relative safe distance from the RNC at the Excel center. I'd get the out-of-town and Homeland Security riot police in their riot gear, and I'd brief them, train them to expect violence, show them training video of girls with flowers, who have a bomb or a gun under their blouse or in the flowers. I'd train them to think the peaceful demonstrators were a threat that had to be kept away at any cost, and tell them that they should not take risks with their own safety, but use the tear gas and pepper spray liberally (ironic? intended). If any out-of-town police had relatives living in St. Paul or planning to attend protests, I'd interview them all to screen those out from the start, so that they'd not hesitate to use their chemicals and force when ordered to.
Then the use of gas and pepper spray by riot-gear-clad police would become a media event in itself, but in the spirit of supporting the troops (we're in a war against terror!), the mainstream media would not want to cast them in a negative light, so they'd do what they usually do: Simply act as stenographers and report whatever the police spokespeople told them.
Others who had any glimmer of a thought that they might have attended such an event for peaceful protest would be intimidated: I have chilren and a wife or husband, and the kids would be terrified if I were in a hospital being treated for pepper-spray injuries, or worse. I'd better just E-mail Move-On and True-Majority and my congressman-or-woman and senator, and maybe the mayor and council in St. Paul, from the comfort of my home. Or maybe not even do that: They might monitor my email and break in without a warrent, and kill my kids by accident, or kill me, and my kids would grow up terrified and angry. Better not. Better law low.
That's part of how I'd win the game if I were Bush-Cheney-Rove after 9-11.
Considering your comment,
"Then at the RNC in St. Paul, I'd get those police in riot gear, mostly imported police from other places, or homeland security direct hires. I'd see to it that the local police, that might have relatives in the area, were assigned to the edges of the action, at a relative safe distance from the RNC at the Excel center,"
I certainly hope so. Sadly, the vitriol against demonstrators in responses to the viciously anti-demonstrator articles on police behavior in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, leave me in doubt as to the reticence of the local police.
We have been heading for this fascist takeover ever since the Soviet Union began to fail. Too many well-meaning people in the US thought, and still think, that the US Constitution would protect us from such a fate. The Constitution has never really been more than a distraction for those concerned with such dangers, as it is only as good as those who interpret it, and those interpreting justices are only as good as the president who nominates them and the senate that confirms them, and the president and senate are only as good as those who elect them, and, today at least, those are the corporate oligarchs.
What kept the corporate oligarchs in check for several decades, starting around 1918, was the fear instilled in them by the success of the Soviet revolution. They compromised with labor, helped develop a middle class, and expanded opportunities to everyone. However, once the Soviet Union's demise began to look almost certain, sometime around the late 1970s, the oligarchs recognized their opportunity and began to support politicians, such as Reagan, who were determined to reestablish the absolute dominance of capital. The US middle class was deemed expendable as a world market could develop in the aftermath of a Soviet collapse. The process accelerated under Bush, and the oligarchs began serious attempts to enable the US to completely dominate the planet militarily so that no new leftist government could develop to serve as a counter-example and as a threat to the stability of the fascist system they were constructing.
Having come to love the Twin Cities, I now fear them. "Minnesota Nice" is revealed to be an empty myth to which Minnesotans cling to rationalize the evil in their soul. It is my wish conventions and personal trips to the Cities be canceled. A price must be paid for this atrocity. For those unfamiliar with the Twin Cities, to strike at Minnesotans' pride in being perceived as good, decent, open minded, folk will hurt them more than anything else which can be done. Please, please, begin referring to the Cities as the new Mississippi! Sadly, and I mean this in all despairing honesty, they deserve such derision for betraying what was my love for them.
This may be the only way we can tell the govt. of St Paul how we feel about their behavior:
"We're so terrified of your lawless police that we'll never, ever visit there, nor will any organization we belong to." Evidently business is the only thing they care about, and the nice people who happen to live there are powerless. So hit them where it hurts: in the moneybags. Maybe, if they get the message, they'll diselect that Mayor and fire their police force.
Oregoncharles
My sister lives in Minnesota and is very much opposed to the terrorist police that dominated St. Paul last week.
johngary66 I would never defend the actions of the stormtroopers in the Twin Cities or anywhere, but the whole approach was an obvious attempt to intimidate and that has a distinct feeling of the Bush Administration and the neo-cons. In any event, to assume that people here in the Twin Cities were not protesting the actions of the gestapos in our midst, or that most of us even wanted the damn RNC in the first place is just wrong . I hope your not under the illusion the exact same thing couldn't happen where you live. You would lose that bet. In any case your post has all the trademarks of a troll so I'm glad you won't be visiting again.
I was a NYC police officer for several years in the borough of Brooklyn (some 20 years ago) and while I witnessed less than desireable behaviour on the part of a good percentage of the officers i.e racism, misogeny etc., I don't recall falsely imprisoning people or lying on depositions as these law enforcement people have.
It seems as though as in NYC during the convention there the law enforcement officials are in essence preparing to break the law or circumvent it because from what I understand the city is given funds by the RNC or whoever in preperation for the civil suits that will arise out of these false arrests.
Is there a paucity of citizens that care that our own citizens are falsely imprisoned with no consequence for the authorities that commit these acts or do we just label these concerned citizens who so bravely give of their time and selves to send a message that is squashed by the state/corporate media as anarchists or loonies.
I don't know what happened to the cry for justice,... torture illegal war and no response. I am however quite impressed by the people that stay active including the independent media that do a noble job to try to inform the public. Support these people while there still there.
In the times of the Revolutionary War, there was no TV, there were no cell phones, no iPods and MP3, no xbox/wii/gamecube, no 99 channels and nothing on. It's hard to get folks worked up about the mistreatment of journalists and unmasked, peaceful citizens who merely don't want to be penned in away from the RNC, but want to stage a visible, peaceful protest.
How can you care about, and get upset about, and advocate for change regarding, a cause you have not heard about because of the din of the Mass Media: "Anarchists. Anarchists. There were anarchists. Broken window. Burning dumpster. Anarchists. Police have a hard time telling the difference between journalists and protesters, and after all, if the journalists are involved in illegal actions, then they're just like civilians breaking the law. And by the way, there were anarchists." Etc. Lies, propaganda.
It was much easier for Paul Revere to spread the news and truth on horseback at the end of the 18th century than it is for us, in spite of cell phones and Escalade SUV's that move and communicate much faster.
"Is there a paucity of citizens that care that our own citizens are falsely imprisoned with no consequence for the authorities that commit these acts or do we just label these concerned citizens who so bravely give of their time and selves to send a message that is squashed by the state/corporate media as anarchists or loonies."
good point concerned-citizen, why is this community not wholeheartedly supporting peoples right to dissent? why are people labeling the organizers?
if not now? when? and by whom?
...peace..
I don't want a pit bull for president whether it's wearing lipstick or not.
Such domestic incidents as these are nauseating. What do these idiots want-- suicide bombers? Is that their idea of a good time? Internationally, they'll bring about world war. Pit bull leaders and pit bull cops, neither with any brain at all. Pit bulls at home and pit bulls abroad, so some sorry excuse for a human being at the RNC (Republican National Convention) can declare: "There's never been a day when I wasn't proud to be an American."
I'm not imagining this, am I, that this kind of problem did NOT occur in Denver (at least not to this degree?) How can these police agencies actually expect that people will believe them that THREE SEPARATE RAIDS or TARGETINGS are merely coincidental? They lied to get the search warrants, they defied the warrants by entering premises not included on the warrants (and if that's NOT thrown out of court, then we have truly lost all), they rip off a woman's credentials in order to say she didn't have any. As the one poster has said, Bush has succeeded in creating a totalitarian state - and he calls the MUSLIMS FASCISTS???? We need a revolution - a literal revolution. If we can't get Obama into office to change this shit, it will be the only way. If the patriots of 1776 could do it to break free of a tyrant, than we should be able to as well! It is guaranteed by the Constitution (for those of us who still believe in it).
Yes, you're imagining it: the same sort of thing happened in Denver, just on a smaller scale because the demonstrations were smaller.
Obama is so committed to our rights that he voted for immunity for the telecoms that have been spying on us.
Oregoncharles
sj cynic September 5th, 2008 8:02 pm
"If we can't get Obama into office to change this shit, it will be the only way."
Hate to burst your bubble but Obama isn't going to change anything, elected or not.
Lobo Gris
I said this before, protest all you want these leaders answer to other task masters and not American voters. As someone suggested a cival war, it will never happen as the sheep of America would be to intimidated to show up. Who are you going to take on? The police, military, well good luck there. The rest I am sure you could figure out on your own on how to make change.
Better to walk away from your credit cards, mortgages and car loans and bring down the entire twisted economic system that supports the masters and their political servants...
Yes, I know it would mean huge financial hardship for many, but you do not NEED printed pieces of paper to survive. Ever hear of barter?
exactly. they wouldn't be able to tax or make a profit on the barter system... cause there's no symbolic funny money in the middle. just goods and services, and green communities.
How to overcome all this police brutality and surveillance of "assailants" (and a corporate owned press that acts as a ministry of propoganda for the Repugs): Yugoslavia was a police state, right? People there had little or no rights for decades under Tito, and the same with the press there.
Then the country has a civil war, and in Serbia another thug comes to power: Slobodan Milosovic. After being in power for number of years, and having brought the wrath of NATO down on his country, he faces an election and loses.
He claims he won the election, and attempts to stay in power. The people of Belgrade rise up, storm the capitol, and Milosovic is out, the real winner in, and Milosovic is handed over to the World Court to face war crimes charges.
If Serbs can do this, so can real Americans! If McCain wins under the same conditions as Bush did in 2000 and 2004, we all should know what to do!
Your Tito reference is way off base. Perhaps in the US of A there is an information blackout about Tito. As to more recent times here is Gary Leupp is Professor of History at Tufts University "Condi vs. Putin on Bullying Belgrade": http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp02262008.html
Milosevic only went down because the US stopped shipping him guns...
SnowWolf writes: "Sometimes you can cut the paranoia in here with a knife...."
To quote Andy Grove, former chairman and CEO of Intel: "Only the paranoid survive!". Andy Grove has done pretty well for himself being paranoid, so has Bush (ARABS ARE CONSPIRING TO DESTROY AMERICA! ARABS ARE SWEEPING ACROSS EUROPE AND COUNTRIES FALLING LIKE DOMINOES! AL QAIDA IS EVERYWHERE! AMERICA IS RIDDLED WITH TERRORISTS! BOMB! KILL! DESTROY! THEN PILLAGE!), so, perhaps, the rest of us should get paranoid, too, and we might do well, also.
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Andy Grove wrote about his book, "Only the Paranoid Survive":
"I'm often credited with the motto, 'Only the paranoid survive.' I have no idea when I first said this, but the fact remains that, when it comes to business, I believe in the value of paranoia. Business success contains the seeds of its own destruction. The more successful you are, the more people want a chunk of your business and then another chunk and then another until there is nothing left. I believe that the prime responsibility of a manager is to guard constantly against other people's attacks and to inculcate this guardian attitude in the people under his or her management."
NOW READ MY ALTERED VERSION OF WHAT ANDY GROVE WROTE, AS IT SHOULD APPLY TO US:
"I'm often credited with the motto, 'Only the paranoid survive.' I have no idea when I first said this, but the fact remains that, when it comes to politics, I believe in the value of paranoia. A country's success contains the seeds of its own destruction. The more successful a country is, the more corporations want a chunk of the government and then another chunk and then another until there is nothing left. I believe that the prime responsibility of a citizen is to guard constantly against other people's attacks on the government AS AN INSTITUTION, and to inculcate this guardian attitude in the people under his or her influence."
staying_sane_in... September 5th, 2008 5:50 pm
SnowWolf writes: "Sometimes you can cut the paranoia in here with a knife...."
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get ya. :-)
Lobo Gris
That was great!
It seems that the moneymaker press has no interest in competition from the independent press. Thus its use of the press pass system increases the chances that unique local writers and photographers will be winnowed from the mercenary writers and photographers of the mainlining news businesses. Control of the information is of utmost importance to maintain the status quo. Using the police to intimidate reporters and photographers is SOP in the management of dissent so that the US of A can practice trompe-l'œil democracy.
Americans have a long way to go before one can expect liberty on every street corner. Thankfully there are those that risk life and limb on the American streets to tell its stories and paint its pictures each day for the common citizen. As some days are better than others it is the courage of those who face the bad days that we must hail and praise. Vive la Liberté
ex malo bonum
Global capital has apparently concluded that the US middle class is a burden and a nuisance and is no longer necessary, and that noisy trouble-making protestors may be forcefully brushed aside without repercussions. You people didn't really think that the constitution could protect you, did you? Like Mr. Bush, one of the highest ranking servants says, "It's just a g*dd*mn piece of paper."
What to do? Unplug the TV and boycott anything from Minnesota...
One more step.
How about the police snipers stationed on roofs overlooking the Rage Against The Machine concert? Talk about overkill...
How about the kid tortured in Police custody:
ELLIOT HUGHES: “And then they slammed—and I fell to the ground, unconscious. And the officer grabbed me by the head, slammed my head on the ground and re-awoke me out of—to consciousness. And I was bleeding everywhere. They dragged me to another detaining cell. They put a bag over my head that had a gag on it. And they used pain compliance tactics on me for about an hour and a half. They pressed—they separated my jaw as hard as they could with their fingers. And they bent my ankles back. They basically bent my foot backwards. I was screaming for God and like screaming for mercy, crying, asking them why they were doing this. And I’ve never been so violated in my life.”
AMY GOODMAN: That was nineteen-year-old Elliot Hughes, speaking at a news conference on Thursday. Sheriff Bob Fletcher told the Star Tribune that Hughes was, quote, “extremely disruptive in jail,” and that, quote, “it took some force to control him.”
The chickens coming home!
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/5/we_are_not_terrorists_members_of
Or the college student who screamed 'Don't Tase me, bro!' after asking former presidential candidate john Kerry about the Skull and Bones society...
Walk in peace.
He faked it....
After Meyer publicly apologized for the incident, several University of Florida students remained skeptical. One student stated that "There's freedom of speech and the responsible exercise of freedom of speech... And he didn't use it properly." Another student stated that "He has no idea how bad he made the university look
So, you-re certain that the one student you quoted was co-rrect,- why?? Oh,right. cause it goes along with yur preconceived notions! Got it!
No...the Kid Himself posted on his own website he faked it...He was having friends film it for him...it was supposed to be funny...(yeah)
I didn't know much about the Meyer incident, but I didn't think he faked it. Well, it's the internet. Highlight, right click and hit "s" and you have the information right there. And here is what the reference you point to says: Did he fake it? No. Did he have friends film it for him? No. Was it supposed to be funny? No.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21558022/ (Also on Meyer's website.):
"My arrest was absolutely not planned. You would have to be a fool to intentionally get arrested and incur the cost of cleaning up this mess legally (ask my lawyer, it wasn’t cheap).
"I did bring my video camera along. I obviously knew I was going to ask the Senator some tough questions, and I wanted to have it on tape. Before I started asking the Senator my questions, I gave my camera to a woman in line I had never met before who also did not leave when Accent instructed her to, named Clarissa Jessup.
....
"It’s funny you should mention “Harry Dies,” because that more than anything else epitomizes how my character has been misconstrued by the media. “Harry Dies” is a video two friends of mine shot on the day the seventh Harry Potter book was released. They are standing on a busy street corner holding a sign that says, “Harry Dies.” I am not in this video. I did not shoot this video. All I did was post it on my Web site. And yet this, according to the media, is the smoking gun that proves I am a “well-known prankster” and my questions to Senator Kerry were not serious. There are no other cited instances of me pulling a practical joke.
"My Web site was and is intended to be a forum for me to express myself, but I was not looking to promote it in any way by attending the Kerry forum. I did plan to post the video of me asking Kerry questions on my website, the same way I posted the videos of Validus and Quigley & the St.Pete Players, a couple of local bands I had filmed. I did not, however, have a pocket full of business cards ready to pass out after the event. If I were promoting my Web site, passing out my card is exactly what I would have done. A police officer did find one of my business cards, which read “TheAndrewMeyer.com.” I was using it as a bookmark for "Armed Madhouse."
...
"I haven’t seen any mainstream news outlet once dissect the questions I asked the Senator. Everything is about me personally or the taser. This is the type of tabloid journalism prevalent in America today. When my story is over, they won’t start covering Blackwater or Ron Paul. It’ll be Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, business as usual.
I don't know, SnowWolf, if you yourself were "supposed to be funny," you had difficulty comprehending what Meyer said, or were just lazy, but above is what he actually said.
Well at least you had the integrity to give a mea culpa. Ahem.
So the police and secret service who were standing by to pin him to the ground, cuff him, and drag him away were... college buddies in on the act?
Ever hear of coercing a confession? Works real good when you stick a gun in the ear of the person sitting at the keyboard.
I believe this about as much as Dr. Bruce Ivins 'suicide'... Or the recent NIST report on WTC Building 7...Or the Warren Commission...
I have been working as a Police Dispatcher for 24 years. The Agency I work for and have watched our officers evolve as an "Us against Them" to "Us can do as we wish with the backing of our superiors". I showed the woman from "Code Pink" in Denver being called a "Bitch" and being shoved to the ground, and showed Amy Goodman's arrest. These Officers put all the blame on the Journalist being arrested. 20 years ago if one of our officers had done that - he would have been charged administratively and suspended from Duty. Now they can get away with it. I read Naomi Wolf's book recently "End of America" and what happened in the "Twin Cities" is exactly what she describes in her book of the "Window Closing on a Democracy". I hope this nightmare will end soon.
Thank you for that. Your experiences add credibility to what we've all been witnessing over the years. There's something about putting on a police unifoorm that renders otherwise humane people into violent abusive pigs, and you are right - it needs to stop.
I suggest we can remedy some of this problem by instituting "tours of duty" or something like that into Police organizations.
No person is capable of doing the job of a modern Policemen -with the incredible power and the randomness of the danger- for years and years, day-in and day-out with out being psychologically altered by the experience.
Current schemes to combat this inevitability (leave time, therapy and psychiactric evaluations etc.) are proving inadequate. I suggest actual limits on "in-country" time and actual limits on "active service" and "reserve service" time. Once these limits are reached, evaluations would be conducted on the officer's continued fitness and then an -elected- Independent Citizen's panel would decide -after a Public Comment period- whether another "tour" or "service term" is warranted or allowable.
All of this could be done NOW. Perhaps at first in a small city or township in the Northeast where crime is low and cultural respect for the Law and the Commonwealth are high.
The would arise an issue with recruitment, but to keep this short I'll just say that this could be solved by the Citizens taking a more "Spent a turn in the Militia" attitude toward the Police. Another reason why the NE would be a good place to try this out -some of those folks anscestors we IN a militia weren't they?
Have Fun,
-matti.
Police officers have some of the highest rates for suicide and drug and alcohol abuse in any profession.
So I think your idea has merit...
Walk in peace.
We can support all the legal rights/lawyers groups defending, after observing:ACLU, National Lawyers Guild, Center for Constitutional Rights. Support local activists. Etc.
I'm sure that the police just need a little lebensraum.
I was one of the 3000 demonstrators on Michigan Avenue in Chicago 40 years ago this month. That was the Democratic Convention which has received so much attention over the years for the police riot that occurred. I was a 17 year old kid, just out of high school civics class where we learned about all the great rights and privileges we have as Americans, like freedom of speech and expression and the right to assemble peaceably to petition our government for redress of grievances.
Aligned against 3000 protesters were 12,000 regular Chicago police (The Pigs), a like number of fully armed National Guard troops, and 27,000 combat troops armed with automatic weapons from the regular Army. The plan by the anti Viet Nam war protesters was to march from "The Loop" (downtown Chicago) to the International Amphitheater where the convention was taking place, about 22 blocks south, to express disagreement with the pro Viet Nam war policies of the Democratic Party. Lyndon Johnson was the Democratic President at the time, and the likely nominee, Hubert Humphrey, was afraid to break with his President. Humphrey was Vice President at the time.
The Chicago Mayor was know as an absolute dictator with Chicago Machine politics at the time, and he claimed that it would embarrass the city if the Peace March was allowed. So, despite our Constitutional guarantees he refused to grant the permit required for the March. Abbie Hoffman, Dave Dellinger, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin, Bobby Seal and others, who were the recognized leaders of the peace movement at the time, decided that they would defy local legal restrictions, believing that our Federal rights to free speech and expression trumped the Chicago rulings, and hold the march anyway. It was into this situation a buddy and I stumbled into after hitch-hiking 350 miles from our little town in northern Michigan to check out the "action."
Everybody was gathered in Grant Park (maybe you remember the famous pictures of Abbie Hoffman on top of the statue of General Grant). TV cameras in those days were huge behemoths that were put in place with cranes. There was a platform in front of the Conrad Hilton Hotel with the three cameras from the three networks. It was getting really crowded to the point where you wondered if you could breathe. There were huge formations of the "Pigs" on all the side streets, and the crowd was on Michigan Avenue, which parallels the lake. The Hilton faces on Michigan which runs north and south. The far side of the park is Lake Shore Drive. The march was set to begin. The atmosphere was very tense. Suddenly, out of one of the side streets, a big gang of a few hundred of the blue uniformed thugs came running out with a vengeance and rushed the TV platform and started smashing all the equipment and beating the hell out of any reporter they could get their hands on. People began screaming and shouting and as soon as the TV feeds were all destroyed the Pigs started grabbing anyone with a camera or notebook and beating them bloody.
Then Army jeeps with wooden rectangular frames on the front that were wrapped with barbed wire came screaming up Lake Shore Drive and running, full speed, into the crowd on the far side of the park, blocking off the route of escape to the east, toward Lake Michigan and the beaches and parks there. Then the full force of thousands of Pigs rushed into the crowd, grunting and hollering and spraying everyone with terrible, but, thankfully, non lethal chemical agents that burned your eyes like pouring battery acid into them and made it very difficult to breathe or see. This left the Peace demonstrators at a real disadvantage, because the Pigs had gas masks on. The Pigs were working in groups of three or four, all with 3 foot truncheons, and they proceeded to grab everyone they could get their hands on and administer sadistic, fascist life threatening beatings to all around. Their actions were murderous and criminal, and yet, they were the police, so to whom did you go to report this criminal activity?
I got away several times as I was just 17 and it appeared that they were a little reticent to grab somebody who looked that young when there was somebody a few years older next to me that they could grab. I can still today hear the screams and the sickening cracks and thuds as the pigs clubs came down on the helpless demonstrators. Blood was splashing around everywhere, including into my face at times. I have never been in a war, so this was and remains the most violent scene I have ever been a part of. My buddy and I got away. We were so scared we ran all the way to Indiana!
Those cops were not trying to arrest anyone or enforce any laws. There were there to beat people and teach them a lesson - Mayor Daily is the boss, and if you threaten his authority we will kill you if necessary. My friend Tim and I left there certain that many, many people must have been killed by the actions of those cops and army with the jeeps. We saw lots of people run over, but the reports later were of only a few people killed. I have always doubted those reports.
So the loss of our actual Constitutional rights goes back at least to the times of the Viet Nam war, and if you study labor history in the U.S., or the Civil Rights movement, I am afraid the hypocrisy goes even further back. Maybe to Washington and Jefferson owning slaves . . .
Initiate a class action lawsuit.
If the police were doing nothing wrong, they shouldn't be so afraid of the independent media.
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
Ah, but then the truth might be revealed, and wake the sleeping masses to vengeful awareness...
The police have really crossed the line. With the support of the Feds, the Secret Service and all the like, they have created the fusion center for suppressing democracy altogether. What are we to do? Do we fight? Get violent? Wait? Pray?
When the police stop war protesters they are killing soldiers by perpetuating the war. They are dumb, yes. After all, how much intelligence does it take to yell who-ah, carry a stick and dress like you're ready to invade Poland. And how much toughness does it take to push over Amy Goodman? Or that lovely producer of hers, Nicole. I am ashamed of the police and am way passed the point of seeing them as human, relevant and American. War protest is democracy. Saving lives IS the domain of the protester. And, of course, dissent is very very patriotic.
But, where are the lawyers? Why is the legal guild of this country so silent as we watch our justice system crumble. As long as law is applied from the bottom up we will never have the freedom we are supposed to have.
At some point, this country gets what it deserves. Complete failure and domination by a small group perpetrating violence upon the individual.
So be it. Go fishing, play golf, and never earn more than you have to as all that does is pay for more of the same.
If the repression continues and the economic collapse deepens, the day will come when citizens will get their hands on heavy weapons and the robo cops will be cut down in a hail of 50 caliber machine gun fire.
CORRECTION:
It is quite amusing that Cheney is on the other side of the world haling and applauding the Rose and Orange revolutions in Georgia and Ukraine respectively, both ex soviet domains, where demonstrators took to the streets and paralyzed their governments to demand freedoms fair and elections.
While in the land of the free and the brave, similar but far milder activity in the Twin Cities are having people arrested and attempting to incarcerate some for put away for up to 7 years under anti-terrorism laws made under the Bush/Cheney administration and executed by the combined forces of State and Federal Security systems, the new Stazi.
Imagine what these well disciplined storm troopers (the picture of this article said it all) would be doing if they were put to use in Government House in Bangkok today.
America usually portrays violent tyranny as over there somewhere, something Saddam Hussein does. In fact the US is waking up to the fact that the police state, draconian laws and thugs to enforce them is the fact of the new American Reich. But, what is not yet clear is if the people are apposed by riot police and draconian tactics, as the pressure mounts the people will find “other” ways. Sure you can use force to clear the streets. But do you want to? Policing is an effort to gain the cooperation of the citizenry. That guy in the picture is not asking for your cooperation, he is threatening you and is ready for your violent retort. In a country of 300 million with an official gun ownership rate of 85,000 guns per 100,000 of population, in which violence is ingrained in the culture so far that it permeates entertainment and leisure activities, the militarised police will find a response, and before it is finished it will cost many lives.
Both political parties are talking change. Obviously the powers that be can see the people are demanding change but the future looks to be offering much of the same if not worse in social and economic terms. It is at this point that America should ask itself, what kind of revolution it wants?
While in the land of the free and the brave, similar but far milder activity in the Twin Cities are having people arrested and attempting to incarcerate some for put away for up to 7 years under anti-terrorism laws made under the Bush/Cheney administration and executed by the combined forces of State and Federal Security systems, the new Stazi.
Imagine what these well disciplined storm troopers (the picture of this article said it all) would be doing if they were put to use in Government House in Bangkok today.
America usually portrays violent tyranny as over there somewhere, something Saddam Hussein does. In fact the US is waking up to the fact that the police state, draconian laws and thugs to enforce them is the fact of the new American Reich. But, what is not yet clear is if the people are apposed by riot police and draconian tactics, as the pressure mounts the people will find “other” ways. Sure you can use force to clear the streets. But do you want to? Policing is an effort to gain the cooperation of the citizenry. That guy in the picture is not asking for your cooperation, he is threatening you and is ready for your violent retort. In a country of 300 million with an official gun ownership rate of 85,000 guns per 100,000 of population, in which violence is ingrained in the culture so far that it permeates entertainment and leasure activities, the militarised police will find a response, and before it is finished it will cost many lives.
Both political parties are talking change. Obviously the powers that be can see the people are demanding change but the future looks to be offering much of the same if not worse in social and economic terms. It is at this point that America should ask itself, what kind of revolution it wants?
If we could get even one segment of the population (say, "liberals") to agree that we need a revolution at all, we might be getting somewhere!
I identify myself as a cultural liberal... and I say "We NEED a revolution!"
and I say 100 million rednecks are just praying you do
Id love to know where you get your statistical evidence from, Wolfie. I'd say it was out of the same place you get you get most of your "facts". Dont you know that place is reserved for excretion?
You actually crow with pride at the thought that 100 million folks accept the lies and distortions leading to the torture and murder of so very many folks around the world, just so they can buy that Smith and Wesson on credit.......What does that make you?
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Fortunately most rednecks are easy to spot.
And avoid.
Ok...so you'll avoid Rednecks..who will we be Revolutin' against?
Cuz like...you know when you said "Revolution" I thought you wanted to actually...you know "Throw Down" with somebody and I was curious who
you know that Posse Comitatus doesn't apply to armed insurrection (ask John Brown or the Branch Davidians)
Won't be much of a Revolution if you're going to avoid conflict...kind of reminds me of the Michigan Militia...you know those Camo-clad, Bald, Middle age Fat Guys that looked like a Troop of Boy Scouts could blow through them in about five minutes?
Gahndi didn't use a gun, yet he made the English grant India it's independence.
And yes, I know he was assainated by a Muslim with a gun.
I'm not saying it's impossible. But PEACEFUL revolution IS possible.
'When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.'
Guns are meant only to produce one thing.
Death.
Therefore if you think only violence will produce a revolution, then violence is all you will reap.
Which brings us back to how the police behaved in both Denver and St. Paul... The PTB are AFRAID that peaceful revolution will depose them and reveal that the past 150 years of oil fueled imperialism was a monstrous lie perpetrated by the wealthy, many of whom were arms merchants.
Every revolution has ended in massive bloodshed. Including Ghandi's, lookup the partition of India 1947. The French Revolution is famous for a revolution that ate its sponsors. The result of the yank's revolution let to nearly two centuries of bloodshed thus far...
I like Lennon's idea better,
You say you want a revolution...
Count me out!
But we need them.
Not only are they a part of the People (mostly a deluded or tricked part, but still a part) but they're the part with all the damned guns!
Its all a matter of language. Use the Constitution and Liberties to argue against the fascists and watch the "rednecks" come swarming to your banner.
The greatest trick that the Radical Right Revolution (that grew out of the '60s-'70s counter-revolution) ever pulled was somehow getting the Anti-Federal, Populist Party, Land-and-Freedom types on their side.
No Revolution -no matter how peaceful and legal- will work without getting these folks back on the progressive -or at least Non-fascist- side where they belong.
Step one would be to stop self-identifying as a "liberal" that identity has been co-opted.
Have Fun,
-matti.
'Not only are they a part of the People, they're the part with all the damned guns!'
Even more reason to avoid them.
It's not guns per se that bother me. It's the monkeys holding them.
I'd rather be friends with monkeys-with guns, than enemies.
But my point was they should be OUR monkeys, not monkeys of the Federal Power that they despise and fling feces at.
You are aware that the US Army is now actively recruiting members of White Supremacist groups (or at least tacitly ignoring their own regulations that prevent same from joining) and giving them training in making IEDs?
And what about Eric Prince and Blackwater? That Bush Junta approved and employed mercenary army is now semi-officially America's 'Fifth Armed Force' (for some reason they keep forgetting the US Coast Guard...).
They're also taking LA Gangsters....Judges used to give a choice...The Military or jail (still do I think)...I've seen the Military take some seriously screwed up kids and straighten them out...so whats your point?...the Majority still comes from where it has always come...The Middle Class
Why don't some of you fine Citizens enlist?..
Hey you old troll. Don't you know you aren't supposed to be posting here?
Seriously, if any kid came to me today and some have, I'd have to tell them not to enlist.
Folks like Lt. Calley no doubt, you must be so proud of him. The military also recruits in Latin America, promising citizenship to those who serve ( survive)....
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
No thanks.
I have no overwhelming desire to go and kill and die to make Bush and Cheney and the rest of that evil breed any richer, thank you.
But please, feel free. Don't not sign up on my account...
'War is a racket." - US General Smedly Butler, once approached by agents of Carnegie and Mellon to help overthrow the US government.
been there, done that, got the tee shirt...
I've told you though...its the Lefts anti-military attitude that created the Warrior Class in America
Dislike them if you must but they are Professionals and they are damn good
if you want to see America go back to the Citizen-Soldier thats fine with me...a Citizen Army won WWII (I've read in the comments here that Russia won WWII...Not true...but thats a debate for another thread)
Everybody should want to enlist...you don't have to stay for 20...However it is a damn fine retirement.."Uncle Sugar" is paying my mortgage for me ...give them 4 years and you've done your bit
One thing that seems to get left out of the America bashing here is that America has freed more people in 200 years than the rest of the world has in 2000...thats undeniable fact
Damn you are such an easy target....pity that.
You think to slip the lies that progressives fail to support our military when it is the administration that has failed them most. Too few, too poorly equipped, with no plan for the occupation is not what Id call supporting those people. Three or more rotations and stop loss is not supporting the troops, neither a