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Untellable Truths
Democrats of all stripes have been so focused on details of policy that they have surrendered public political discourse to conservatives, and with it the key to the nation's future.
Materialist Perspectives
The differences between Democratic progressives and the president over the tax deal the president has made with Republicans is being argued from a materialist perspective. That perspective is real. It matters who gets how much money and how our money is spent.
But what is being ignored is that the answer to material policy questions depends on how Americans understand the issues, that is, on how the issues are realized in the brains of our citizens. Such understanding is what determines political support or lack of it in all its forms, from voting to donations to political pressure to what is said in the media.
What policies are proposed and adopted depend on how Americans understand policy and politics. That understanding depends on communication. And it is in that the Democrats -- both the president and his progressive critics -- have surrendered. The Democrats have left effective communication to the conservatives, who have taken advantage of their superior communications all too well.
From the progressive viewpoint, the president keeps surrendering in advance -- giving in to conservatives before he has to and hence betraying Democratic principles. From the president's perspective he is not surrendering at all; instead he is a pragmatic incrementalist -- getting the best deal he can for the poor and middle class one step at a time.
Progressives differ on the reasons for the president's behavior. Either he has no backbone to stand up for what he believes in, or his actions define his beliefs and he is more conservative than those who voted for him thought.
The progressives' economic policy arguments are sound: continuing reduced tax payments for the wealthy will not work as a serious economic stimulus and will greatly increase the deficit and make the economic picture worse. From a progressive moral perspective, it isn't fair; it increases an economic disparity that is already much too large.
The president's pragmatic incrementalist arguments seem reasonable from his perspective: He got more immediate money for the poor and middle class than he gave to the rich, and the poor and middle class need as much as possible now (pragmatism) and further incremental steps can be taken later (incrementalism).
Those are the materialist arguments among Democrats. I want to shift the frame to the major causal factor that is being ignored on both sides: the role of communication in shaping what Americans understand.
Helping the Other Side
As someone who studies how brains work and how language affects politics, I see things somewhat differently. From my perspective, there is a form of surrender in advance on both sides -- a major communications surrender.
Let's start with an example, the slogan "No tax cuts for millionaires." First, "no." As I have repeatedly pointed out, negating a frame activates the frame in the brains of listeners, as when Christine O'Donnell said "I am not a witch" or Nixon said "I am not a crook." Putting "no" first activates the idea "Tax cuts for millionaires."
Next, "millionaires." Think of the tv show, "So you want to be a millionaire" or the movies "Slumdog Millionaire" and "How to Marry a Millionaire." To most Americans, being a millionaire is a good thing to aspire to.
Then, there is "tax." To progressives, taxes are forms of revenue allowing the government to do what is necessary for Americans as a whole -- unemployment insurance, social security, health care, education, food safety, environmental improvements, infrastructure building and maintenance, and so on.
But the conservative message machine, over the past 30 years, has come to own the word "tax." They have changed its meaning to most Americans. They have been able to make "tax" mean "money the government takes out of the pockets of people who have earned it in order to give it to people who haven't earned it and don't deserve it." Thus, "tax relief" assumes that taxation is an affliction to be cured, and a "tax cut" is a good thing in general. Hence, conservatives make the argument, "No one should have their taxes raised."
The conservative slogan activates the conservative view of taxes. But the progressive slogan "No tax cuts for millionaires" also activates the conservative view of taxes! The progressives are helping the conservatives.
The conservatives have a superior message machine: Dozens of think tanks with communications facilities, framing experts, training institutes, a national roster of speakers, booking agents to books their speakers in the media and civic groups, and owned medias like Fox News and a great deal of talk radio. Their audience will hear, over and over, "No one should have their taxes raised."
There is no comparable progressive message machine. But even if one were to be built, the Democrats might still be using messages that are either ineffective or that help the conservatives. Why?
Language, The Brain, and Politics
When democratic political leaders go to college they tend to study things like political science, economics, law, and public policy. These fields tend to use a scientifically false theory of human reason -- Enlightenment reason. It posits that reason is conscious, that it can fit the world directly, that it is logical (in the sense of mathematical logic), that emotion gets in the way of reason, that reason is there to serve self-interest, and that language is neutral and applies directly to the world.
The brain and cognitive sciences have shown that every part of this is false. Reason is physical, it does not fit the world directly but only through the brain and body, it uses frames and conceptual metaphors (which are neural circuits grounded in the body), it requires emotion, it serves empathic connections and moral values as well as self-interest, and language fits frames in the brain not the external world in any direct way.
Conservatives who are savvy about marketing their ideas are closer to the way people really think than Democrats are, because people who teach marketing tend to be up on how the brain and language work. And over the past three decades they have not just built an effective message machine, but they repeated messages that have changed the brains of a great many Americans.
Democrats can do effective messaging while being sincere and factual. But this takes insight into the nature of unconscious reason and the role of language.
It's Complicated
I am often asked, "Is there a slogan I can use tomorrow that will turn things around?" Certainly there are better things that can be said tomorrow. But things don't turn around so quickly. There is a lot do and to bear in mind over the long haul. Here is a brief list.
* Communication is a long-term effort. Political leaders rarely say anything that isn't already in public discourse. That means that people who are not in office have to start effective communication efforts, including new ways of thinking and talking.
* All politics is moral. Policies are proposed because they are assumed to be right, not wrong. The moral values behind a policy always should be made clear.
* Conservatives and progressives have two different conceptions of morality.
* Democrats need to unite behind a simple set of moral principles and to create an effective language to express them. President Obama in his campaign expressed those principles simply, as the basis of American democracy. (1) Empathy -- Americans care about each other. (2) Responsibility, both personal and social. We have to act on that care. (3) The ethic of excellence. We have to make ourselves better so we can make our families, our communities, our country and the world better. Government has special missions: to protect and empower our citizens to have at least the necessities. I don't know any Democrats who don't believe in these principles. They need to be said out loud and repeated over and over.
* Leaders need a movement to get out in front of. Not a coalition, a movement. We have the simple principles. Those of us outside of government have to organize that unified movement, and not be limited by specific issue areas. The movement is about progressivism, not just about environmentalism, or social justice, or labor, or education, or health, or peace. The general principles govern them all.
* Many people are "bi-conceptual," this is, they have both conservative and progressive moral systems and apply them in different issue areas. These are sometimes called "independents," "swing voters," moderates," "the center," etc. They are the crucial segment of the electorate to address. Each moral system is represented by a circuit in their brains. The more one circuit is activated and strengthened the more the other is weakened. Conservatives have moved them to the right by repeating conservative moral messages 24/7. The Democrats need to activate and strengthen the progressive moral circuitry in their brains. That means using only progressive language and progressive arguments, and not moving to the right or using the right's language. This is the opposite of "moving to the center." There is no ideology of the center, just combinations of progressive and conservative views.
* Don't use conservative language, since it will activate their moral system in the brains of listeners. Don't try to negate their arguments. That will only make their arguments more prominent. Use your own language and your own arguments. Truth squads and wonk rooms are insufficient.
* Remember that in the conservative moral system, the highest moral principle is to preserve, defend, and extend the conservative moral system itself. For example, from their perspective, individual responsibility is moral; social responsibility is not.
* Learn the difference between framing and spin/propaganda. Framing is normal; we think in frames. If you want to formulate a policy that is understandable, the policy must be framed so it came be readily communicated. Framing precedes effective policy. When you use framing to express what you really believe and what the truth is, you are just being an effective communicator. Framing can also be misused for the sake of propaganda. I strongly recommend against it.
* Educate the press and the pollsters to all of these matters.
* Find a part to play in getting an effective communications system going!
For a detailed background, take a look at my book, The Political Mind.
Untellable Truths
The conservative message machine has so dominated political discourse that they have changed the meaning of words and made some truths untellable by political leaders in present discourse. It takes a major communication effort to change that.
Here are just a few examples of presently untellable truths:
* There is a Principle of Conservation of Government: If conservatives succeed in cutting government by the people for the public good, our lives will still be governed, but now by corporations. We will have government by corporations for corporate profit. It will not be a kind government. It will be a cruel government, a government of foreclosures, outsourcing, union busting, outrageous payments for every little thing, and pension eliminations.
* The moral missions of government include the protection and empowerment of citizens. Protection includes health care, social security, safe food, consumer protection, environmental protection, job protection, etc. Empowerment is what makes a decent life possible -- roads and infrastructure, communication and energy systems, education, etc. No business can function without them. This has not been discussed adequately. Government serving those moral missions is what makes freedom, fairness, and prosperity possible. Conservatives do not believe in those moral missions of government, and when in power, they subvert the ability of government to carry out those moral missions.
* The moral missions of government impose a distinction between necessities and services. Government has a moral mission to provide necessities: Adequate food, water, housing, transportation, education, infrastructure (roads and bridges, sewers, public buildings), medical care, care for elders, the disabled, environmental protection, food safety, clean air, and so on. Necessities should never be subordinated to private profit. The public should never be put at the mercy of private profit. Public funds for necessities should never be diverted to private profit.
* Services are very different; they start where necessities end. Private service industries exist to provide services -- car rentals, parking lots, hair salons, gardening, painting, plumbing, fast food, auto repair, clothes cleaning, and so on. It is time to stop speaking of government "services" and speak instead of government providing necessities. Similarly, "spending" does not suggest providing necessities. "Spending" suggests services that could just as well be eliminated or provided by private industry. Economists should drop the term "spending" when discussing necessities.
* The market is supposed to be "efficient" at distributing goods and services, and sometimes, with appropriate competition, it is. But the market is most often inefficient at proving necessities, because every dollar that goes to profit is a dollar that does not go to necessities. Health care is a perfect example.
* Public servant pensions have been earned. Public servants have taken lower salaries in return for better benefits later in life. They have earned those pensions through years of hard work at low salaries. Pensions were ways for both corporations and governments to pay lower salaries. Responsible institutions, public and private, took the money saved by committing to pensions and invested it so that the money would be there later. Those corporations and governments that took the money and ran are now going broke. Those institutions (both companies and governments) are now blaming the unions who negotiated deferred earnings in the form of pensions or benefits for the lack of money to pay pensions. But the institutions themselves (e.g., general motors) are to blame for not putting those deferred salary payments aside and investing them safely.
* Education is a public good, not a private good. It benefits all of us to live in a country with educated people. It benefits corporations to have educated employees. It benefits democracy to have educated citizens. But conservatives are only considering education as a means to make money and hence as a private good. This leads them to eliminate the public funding of education, which is a major disaster for all of us, not just those who will either be denied an education or who will be forced into unconscionable debt.
* Huge discrepancies in wealth are a danger to democracy and a cause for major public alarm. The enormous accumulation of wealth at the top of American society means unfair access to scarce resources, a restriction on access to necessities for many, and a grossly unfair distribution of power -- power over the media and political power.
* Tax "cuts," "breaks," and "loopholes" sound good (wouldn't you like one?) even for super-wealthy individuals and corporations. What they really mean is that money is being transferred from poorer people to richer people: The poor and middle are giving money to the rich! Why? Money that would otherwise go to their necessities: food, education, health, housing, safety, and so on is instead going into the pockets of super-wealthy people who don't need it.
* Markets in a democracy have a fundamentally moral as well as economic function. Working people who produce goods and services are necessary for businesses and should be paid in line with profits and productivity. Salary scales in private industry are a matter of public, not just private concern. Middle-class salaries have not gone up in 30 years, while the income of the top 1 percent has zoomed upward astronomically. This is a moral issue.
* Carbon-based fuels -- oil, coal, natural gas -- are deadly. They bring death to people and animals and destruction to nature. We are not paying for their true cost because they are being subsidized: tens of billions of dollars for naval protection of tankers, hundreds of billions for oil leases, hundreds of billions in destruction of nature, as in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska coast. Death comes from the poisoning of air and water through pollution and natural gas fracking. And global warming pollution destroys nature itself -- the ice cap, the creation of violent storms, floods, deserts, the blowing up of hilltops. The salesmen of death -- the oil and coal companies -- are profiting hugely from our payouts to them via subsidies and high prices. And with the money ordinary citizens are giving to them in subsidies, they are corrupting the political process, influencing political leaders not to deal with global warming -- our greatest threat. We are dependent on them for energy, to a large extent because they have politically blocked the development of alternatives for decades.
* What is called "school failure" is actually a failure of citizens to pay for and do what is needed for excellent schools: early childhood education, better training and pay for teachers, a culture of learning in place a culture of entertainment, a poverty-free economy.
* Taxpayers pay for business perks. Because business can deduct the costs of doing business, taxpayers wind up paying a significant percentage of business write-offs -- extravagant offices, business cars and jets, first-class and business-class flights, meetings at expensive lodges and spas, and so on. Businesses regularly rip off taxpayers through tax deductions.
* The economic crisis and the ecological crisis are the same crisis. It has been caused by short-term greed. Thomas Friedman has described it well. The causes of both are the same: Underestimation of risk. Privatization of profit. Socialization of Loss. But that truth lies outside of public discourse.
* Low-paid immigrant workers make the lifestyles of the middle and upper classes possible. Those workers deserve gratitude -- as well as health care, education for their kids, and decent housing.
Notice that it takes a paragraph to tell each of these truths. Each paragraph creates a frame required for the truth to be told. Words are defined in terms of such conceptual frames. Without the frames in common understanding, there are presently no simple commonplace words to express the frames. Such words have to be invented and will only come into common use when these presently untellable truths become commonplace truths. Try to imagine how public understanding would have to be enhanced for expressions like the following to come into normal public discourse:
* greed crisis in place of economic crisis
* blessed immigrants in place of illegal immigrants
* government for profit in place of privatization
* public theft in place of tax breaks
* failing citizens in place of failing schools
* corporate cruelty in place of profit maximization
* deadly coal in place of clean coal
Presidents can have a discourse-changing power if they know how to use it and care to use it. But they cannot do it alone.
If there is a teachable communication moment for President Obama, this is it. Bring back "empathy" -- "the most important thing my mother taught me." Speak of "empathy" for "people who are hurting." Say again how empathy is basis of democracy ("caring for your fellow citizens"), how we have a responsibility to act on that empathy: social as well as personal responsibility. Bring the central role of empathy in democracy to the media. And make it clear that personal responsibility alone is anti-patriotic, the opposite of what America is fundamentally about. That is the first step in telling our most important untellable truths. And it is a necessary step in loosening the conservative grip on public discourse.
For videos of the president speaking about empathy, Google: Obama Empathy Youtube, and Obama Empathy Speeches.


158 Comments so far
Show AllIt has been a while since I read an article that explained things that I didn't already know. And this is one of them. I already know Obama is an utter wet sock, and that all our politicians and media are in the pockets of AIPAC, the MIC and the oil corporations, and that war is not carried out for the sake of peace.
This article seems to explain how the minds of the public have been set in a way that prevents them from understanding the lies, the MIC, socialism etc. It may explain why Mercans seem like utter sheeple.
We should all take this stuff on board. That is, if it isnt way too late to change the downward trajectory of the USA.
While the acerbic criticism of Lakoff's giving Obama a pass prompts my immediate "yeah", another consideration is also evoked. We can only infer a person's motivations and perspective by their behavior, if not their words. No doubt Obama is a superb politician in his use of framing (as you point out using "empathy") to get elected. He seems trapped in triangulation and realpolitic, cold and rational, incremental and compromised, if not something more sinister. Nevertheless, I would prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, until something better comes along. Now, my doubt that he might side with caring for the "little people" beyond his cold practicality is huge. Still, why not give him a chance and those that believe in him (not I) a chance to change our opinion of the whimp in chief (or wolf in democrat clothing) at least till we can find someone better.
Your comments about Lakoff's conflation of "democrat" with "progressive" is well taken. I agree. I wonder though if he may not be putting less emphasis on the denotative meaning, while allowing the readers to respond to those words with their own frame, thus including more sympathetic readers to his meaning determined by their identification.
Lakoff seems to be lobbying for a new way to think, speak, and perceive. He is proposing a different group think more in line with our values. If we are to get a movement for change going, of necessity from the ground up, we need ideas that can catch fire in the commons. The particular words he proposes for the frames he is attempting to construct may not be the most succinct or profound. Nevertheless, the essential importance of cognitive science and framing is IMHO an important contribution to our side.
Self-criticism a la Marxist analysis is immeasurably useful. That is what I see you doing here with your thoughtful comments. The problem with such criticism, however, is that often there is no room for making use of what is useful, then the proverbial baby is tossed with the bathwater. My wish is that we continue with the development of Lakoff's contributions, and our discussions, to find that spark in the commons which will burn a whole in the media empire supporting oppression. Repeating that it is immeasurably difficult due to the weight of the fourth estate loyalty to oppression, only seems to evoke the "it's impossible to get change" frame.
There is no reason to give a benefit of the doubt when it's transparently obvious that Obama is nothing but a groveling toady for his second biggest funder Goldman Sachs, and he has litered his admin with former Goldman Sachs employees, and militant neo-con war hawks like Hilary Clinton. His record is already Bush term III and he has overtly said after the mid terms he is going to the right of that. Wake up sleepy head the system is broken and the action is with Wikileaks and street protests:
Obama as bad as Bush the documented record:
1. The escalated wars even compared to overt war criminal Bush?
www.alternet.org/world/144449/obama_far_outdoes_bush_in_e...
2. The continuation of the abrogation of Habeas Corpus just like Bush?
www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/04/11/bagram
3. The continuation of military tribunals just like Bush:
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/...
4. The continuation of rendition to countries that torture just like Bush:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/target-of-obama-era-ren...
5. The continuation of a prison camp that tortures in gross violation of the Geneva conventions just like Bush:
www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,650324,00.html
www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/51564
6. Continuation of of Bush's TARP program to transfer money from the poor and middle class to unaccountable banksters rather than helping the mainly African American victims of sub prime loans?
abcnews.go.com/GMA/Economy/story?id=6626721&page=1
www.detroitnaacp.org/civilrights/predatory.asp
7. The appointment of industry insiders in the industry that supported Obama in the Campaign shades of Cheney and Halliburton:
www.helium.com/items/1813307-goldman-sachs-ties-to-the-ob...
8. Obama's support for "clean coal," nuclear power and the first offshore oil drilling in 20 years which was only halted with a moratorium after the disastrous Gulf oil spill:
www.treehugger.com/files/2010/02/obama-defends-clean-coal...
www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/16/obama.nuclear.power/index...
www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/science/earth/01energy.html
9. Obama's crushing of government whistleblowers of U.S. War crimes and other government malfesance like wikileaks:
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/17/wikileaks_whistleblowers
10. Assassination orders against American Citizens overseas:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/07/assassinations
11. Support for expanding Bush's Unconsitutional surveillance of American citizens:
http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/internet/obama-aims-to-wiretap-skype-facebook-blackberry-the-entire-internet.asp
12. Health insurance reform that is a giveway of a trillion taxpayer dollars to the big insurance companies that broke the system in the first place with no price caps:
http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2010/03/mythfactshcr-2.pdf
13. FBI raids on antiwar activists:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100928/ap_on_re_us/us_fbi_raid_terrorism
14. Vastly expanded TSA mandate that violates the 4th amendment.
15. Cave on fighting for progressive tax cut
See also:
http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.html
http://ia700107.us.archive.org/21/items/PaulStreet-TheEmpiresNewClothesTalkAtEncuentro58252010/Street_e5_8_25_10.ogg
BTW the only language an authentic movement for change needs is clearly and boldly speaking the truth, exchanging one set of spin for another does us no favors. Find my link to Orwell's classic essay on political language below for more details.
V.P. You add much to the CD discourse, and I'm glad to see you back.
I like your writing too. I'm not a scholar on this forum but I think I'm catching on.
"I do spend a significant amount of time exploring these issues and consult many different sources, both in the academic world and on the street, before writing about them. "
If everyone could be like you, we wouldn't be stuck with logically fallacious thinking. You should run for president of the US as a Green Party candidate.
Hi, well written response.
RE "The problem is hardly that they are too focused on the “details of policy”—rather it is that their perspectives are consistently odds with the corporate agenda in the U.S. and so they are not “sellable.” The ideas that do get echoed in the mass media in our country are only those that are approved by the corporate gate-keepers."
Isn't this implied as a concern addressed in the article? He recognizes a lack of a similar meme disseminating infrastructure on the left, but insists correctly that this outlet must get its messaging on track before it will ever be successful. Look at AirAmerica... sure, they had internal problems, but they were also confused as to exactly which message to tow: progressive, liberal, libertarian or democrat apologist. They failed quite spectacularly. Modern Progressivism, as outlined in this article, must be the central, or at least centralizing message of this meme dissemination infrastructure.
RE: "He implies that the Democrats genuinely care about the plight of less-well-off Americans, but simply lack the proper language to present their views effectively. Sorry, but the evidence on this point leads in exactly the opposite direction."
This I agree with to some degree, and evidence to support it lately has certainly been rife. Lakoff would do well to dispense with the idea that the Democratic Party will itself be in any way his great source of progressive momentum. But the problem with the Dems is more systemic and a characteristic of the Washington sausage making process, and the party machine itself. Many people who actually thought they could make a positive change for society joined them thinking that would be able to make a difference. Their mistake.
So I think perhaps, yes, if a 3rd party fully representing our ideals were to arise, there would be a large defection. I think this is a part of his thinking.
RE: "It is disturbing that Lakoff consistently conflates the terms “liberal”, “progressive”, and “Democrat.” To him, it appears to be an unassailable truth that most Democrats are kind at heart and truly want to do good. "
Here I defitely agree. As a progressive, I can hardly stand the notion that party loyalists might be confused as sharing my political perspective. To some degree, I can tolerate some progressives being confused as liberals, as liberal is quite a broad idea. But they are certainly no progressives, and they've amply demonstrated their disdain for progressivism. R.Feingold, or A.Grayson anyone?
RE: "The utterly regressive Obama presidency has made that starkly clear"
Indeed.
Why did Air America fail and Democracy Now! succeed (and on a much smaller budget I'd add)? Simple Amy Goodman is a clear and blunt no spin truth teller and that's what people looking for an alternative to the rotten/corporatist/mic/two party system are looking for. No counter spin "framing" needed.
A big part of progressive 'framing' is strict adherence to the truth based on 1. hard facts/solid reporting 2. a morally coherent social perspective. *That* is an intrinsic facet of the 'counterspin' required, and this is indeed what Amy Goodman has going for her.
BUT, she and Democracy Now could both be far more effective, and widespread were she and D.N. to adopt better framing, and messaging techniques that integrate effectively and ergonomically with the default mindsets of the general populace. This is who the Left desperately needs to make a connection with.
Its one thing to reach out and connect with the indoctrinated base who already are on-board. It's another thing to connect with the mainstream, and alter its course away from fascism and towards progress.
That is best accomplished by speaking clearly and forthrightly without spin on why corporatism, classicism, environmental destruction, and militarism are destructive. Framing is just another word for spinning, fuck that, as Julian Assange correctly says truth will out.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm
Its called message consistency, and transmitability.
We need more of it, because simple strait-up truth telling scares most Americans. It must be *well framed* and consistent truth-telling.
There's no contradiction or necessary argument here. Must you make one?
Yes actually I must because it sounds like you are talking about consciously spinning language to target people which is just a left wing slanted propaganda jargon as opposed to a right wing one. If we devolve to have *talking points* where *consistency* is more important than an individual being able to add their own unique ethical perspective we have already lost at our own hands.
PLEASE read the Orwell essay before responding again OK?
Guitarist,
Thank you SO MUCH for the link to the article by Orwell!
I have been saying since 2000 that language is losing all meaning--I guess I was a few decades late, but I was reacting mainly to what the B*sh Crime Family was doing to it. As we are now in B*sh's THIRD TERM (with OilyBomber) the damage continues.
I'm pretty sure you would enjoy my favorite (liberal) radio host:
www.mikemalloy.com He's on M-F, 9pm-midnight. Free, unless you want the podcasts for convenience (they're only $60/year or 25cents per show--he calls it his "two-bit radio show.") Best money you can spend!
Thanks again, and stick to your guns on this forum--many mean well, but less than many are really THINKING.
"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it."
--Henry Ford
RE: "many mean well, but less than many are really THINKING."
As this post praises guitarist's rebuttal to me, should I insinuate that I am the intended target of the comment about 'less than many' who are 'really THINKING'?
Not only have I known, and read Orwell since I was 13 (Animal Farm was the first political novel I read), I've followed and listened faithfully to Mike Malloy for over 10 years now. I even paid for his broadcast once it came to that. But to be honest, I thought his show was far better during the Bush-ages (I know, we're still in them), when his scathing excoriations had no equivocations. He's been too back and forth with Obama imho, though I haven't even heard where he stands on these latest developments. I'll start listening again tomorrow.
RE: ""Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it."
--Henry Ford
Sadly, guitarist could pay attention to this quote far more than he does sometimes.
Yes because someone who is willing to take the open abuse of being an out atheist must have adopted that position carelessly and without thought, eh?
Read Dawkins The God Delusion, and the SPECIFIC Orwell essay I linked to which addresses both the original article and your spin for spin directly.
Without clear direct clarity of though we are just as lost as out enemies the oppressors.
Guitarist,
Thank you SO MUCH for the link to the article by Orwell!
I have been saying since 2000 that language is losing all meaning--I guess I was a few decades late, but I was reacting mainly to what the B*sh Crime Family was doing to it. As we are now in B*sh's THIRD TERM (with OilyBomber) the damage continues.
I'm pretty sure you would enjoy my favorite (liberal) radio host:
www.mikemalloy.com He's on M-F, 9pm-midnight. Free, unless you want the podcasts for convenience (they're only $60/year or 25cents per show--he calls it his "two-bit radio show.") Best money you can spend!
Thanks again, and stick to your guns on this forum--many mean well, but less than many are really THINKING.
"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it."
--Henry Ford
RE: "Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment."
You're welcome, and the same back to you.
RE: "His point seems to be that if progressives are able to use more effective language to communicate their ideas, their views will be disseminated widely by the mainstream media and they will influence more people. "
A nuanced distinction, since it really has to go both ways. We need to be better communicating within the existing corporate media, but we likewise must begin establishing our own independent frames and dialog, and develop that within the framework of our own expanding dissemination apparatus. Perhaps Lakoff's focus is more on better messaging within the mainstream, but the second point was partially implied. My post was meant to place more emphasis on this need, which I perceive as primary. The mainstream media has too many reasons to ensure that the progressive message will never be hear loudly and clearly to most Americans.
RE:"The corporate media want to spread information that enhances their control over our society; the positions that progressives want to popularize are opposed to this hegemony. There is an inherent conflict here."
See above. I surely recognize this.
RE: "In any event, I think you are putting the cart before the horse. I think that all it takes to influence people is to have an outlet to present information; once you have that infrasturcture in place, you are free to shape whatever message you want."
We're not in disagreement here. Horse, cart, cart horse... it all needs to get to the market. Establishing better memes and paradigms with which to reach the wider public must go hand in hand with the expanded, progressive media infrastructure. I'm not really concerned about which comes first, just that it all happens.
RE: "Regarding the failure of AirAmerica,..."
Good points here, and I agree with your conclusion that what killed them was turning into Democratic apologists beholden to their advertisers. But what is the alternative? Again, I personally think we must build an audience first, with a compelling dialog and message, through low-budget means that don't require corporate sponsorship. We must build the base first, otherwise, what funding model does this media apparatus rely upon? So here again I think the message-first approach works better. If we want our donations coming from members only, there must be an official progressive 'club' to become members of. Is this making sense?
RE: "They certainly have compelling messages to communicate, but they are largely excluded from the national conversation. "
You've hit the nail on the head in terms of diagnosis of the problem. Now what do we do about the solution? Lakoff's approach in my mind is one of the best so far put forward, considering we cannot rely on the friendly cooperation or assistance of the vast majority of mainstream outlets.
Very well said, Visiting Professor! A large number of people are very disappointed with Pres. Obama. His whole term is making people wonder what the hell is going on, but if the current power structure gets to again frame how and why things are occurring, people might start thinking that they have no one else to blame but themselves for losing their jobs and homes. This is the perfect time to expose the corruption, rather than having intellectual discussions on the nuances of our country's politics. Prof. Lakoff has merely proposed a means to do that.
VISITING PROF: Welcome back. You said everything I would have said, and more. Excellent posts! Thank you.
As for cheerleading for Obama's use of the concept of empathy when his policies lead so many to misery, it's kind of like prescribing anti-depressant meds to render a population cheerful in spite of all evidence (in their actual quality of life) to the contrary. Or pouring Cor-exit onto a gigantic oil spill to make all the evidence disappear, or locking up whistleblowers because the truths they articulate are far too inconvenient. Leadership by illusion, delusion and deception... framing is just the cheery on the toxic cake.
That I can agree with. More straightforward factual posts like this please that aren't laced with mythological jargon.
GUITARIST: Although the concept may be novel for you, I am not under YOUR authority and I will write whatever I please. Got that? You are in no position to make that determination for me. I'm sure you don't realize how authoritarian you sound and likely are. Hopefully others do. When the conversation is expected to stay within narrow, allowable parameters, you're talking your own breed of fascism! Don't you think those of us who have pursued mystical learning for centuries are tired of being branded as heretics, burned literally or figuratively for being "witches," whilst the real damage is being done by warriors, criminals, and sociopaths in $2000 suits?
Given all the horror going on, it amazes me that people like you find those of us wishing to expand (or LIFT) the conversation worthy of ridicule, if not more punitive measures. Your soul must have withered up long ago.
There is an analytic definition of empathy which is much more hard nosed. It is the ability to understand how the other will react when we see through their eyes how they will perceive the situation they are in. I can use empathy to understand why most Americans feel betrayed by government. I can understand why they look at the corruption of democracy in Washington and despair. They do not think it can act in their interest. I can see why the public, percieving no moral authority or legitimacy in government will revert to giving the power and authority to the only other ideology or frame which boldly asserts that it can offer us security and prosperity and that alternative is free market capitalism. Only the free market can save us now--they think. It's a desperate hope and it I think it will prove false--but I understand why the American public is being driven to it. But empathy is not sympathy. Quite the opposite. I see no way to spare the Americsn public of the pain it is about to inflict on itself. Instead I believe in a dialectic more profound than mechanism of Lackoff's framing. I believe it is necessary first that the American public has to suffer, has to be dis-enthralled and has to be shown that the laissez faire capitalism it has put so much faith in is a false hope by the magnitude of their own suffering. I believe that this will be demonstrated by what Hegel called the terror of history. History will frame the alternatives. Only then will the blinders be removed. Frames are conceptual models of reality but that does not mean all frames are equally adequate depictions of it. They have to be tested. America is about to trust laissez faire capitalism again, the Bush tax cuts as the most likely mechanism to save itself and restore prosperity. Ultimately Democrats and Republicans bear allegiance to it and dismiss all else as discredited "socialism." and the American public is going to have to have its nose rubbed in the failure of that frame by suffering the consequences before it is willing to consider any other alternative.
I read your post, and think that you are 100% correct. But you should learn to use paragraphs.
That would make reading so much easier! I hope you meant the article...LOL
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Absolutely, "Right On"!
There is nothing like a "good, deep" recession to focus the economic mind of the public.
Out of the Great Depression came laws that had sustained this society in an "empathic" way for decades until "things were maybe too good (?)" and the "great unwinding" of the social protections layed down in that subsequent era were begun by BOTH POLITICAL parties........
Lakoff, who I do "enjoy" reading occasionally is a professorial thinker....I choose to read Chomsky (also withing broad limitations) but a good history of revolutions will give any individual an additional "common person" view of what happens when political structures believe they have the ultimate hand in conducting a nation's business.
We are truly headed into the abyss.........Maybe then the general public will get its' "head out of where the sun don't shine", wake up and realize that all that has gone past was fought and bled for in the streets and, "My Oh My!" It must be done all over again!
RE: "I don't think Obama needs any advice on framing; rather, what he needs is advice on caring."
As many other progressives may have noticed, Obama doesn't read, or take much notice of progressive opinion. I think Lakoff is speaking somewhat rhetorically about convincing the president to alter his message.
This article seems to me more about real progressives framing their message more clearly, improving the language, power and focus of our message, and ultimately, defeating Obama if he cannot, and does not ever alter his course.
Perhaps you could say this is the standard political journalist's conceit of posing as if they had their lips upon the ears of power. We and they know they're speaking primarily to their own audience, and spreading their memes among the masses in the hope of potentially reaching the ear of power indirectly.
if empathy were brought back, would it still feel the same?
Exactly empathy is a poor substitute for actual political *action* by the downtrodden for the downtrodden. Remember Bill Clinton's "I feel you pain," as he railroaded NAFTA through destroying America's industrial base and while starving the children of Iraq?
In that sense I actually agree with "Two Americas," it's just a shame he has to see it through the lens of narrow doctrinaire Marxism.
As Galbraith clearly pointed out in the speech he made, basically everyone in our government is an neoliberal ideologue.
And in the "inverted totalitarianism" we live under, adherence to the neoliberal economic system runs across party lines.
The system must remain intact no matter who is in charge.
Here, Lakoff dances around yet another aspect of neoliberal ideology: that of neoliberal Straussian disdain for the electorate.
You see, not only must the "system" be served and saved because our leaders believe it to be the only solution.
They - as Lakoff details and Obama puts on display - also believe that all of us are too f*cking stupid to even be dealt with respectfully.
Throughout his Presidency, Obama has had ample opportunities to lead people forward, to use the bully pulpit to inform and teach the nation about the situation we as a people find ourselves in.
Instead, Obama - a true acolyte - brandishes the teachings of Leo Strauss for all of us to see.
From this exalted point of view of the "knowledgeable elite", Obama can barely disguise the exasperation/disgust he feels at having to explain things to all of us idiots.
Idiots who - from his reckoning - will NEVER be able to figure out how we're being stolen from.
Hope and change for you measly unwashed animals?
Don't make us puke up our sleeves.
President Obama a Straussian? Thanks for another good laugh today. He hides it well - but then, he would, wouldn't he? ;-)
I take it you're being facetious, but tell me which of his actions does NOT speak of lying to the American people?
I guess, you're right:
HAHAHAHAHAAHA, Obama lied to us about ending the war in Afghanistan on time!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA, Obama lied about ending the W tax cuts!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA, Obama lied about ending torture and closing secret prisons!!
The fact that Obama has lied about everything IS freaking hilarious!
I guess you find Obama's contempt for telling the truth to the American people non-Straussian because unlike W and company he seemed oh so earnest on the campaign trail.
Since he didn't tell us he followed Strauss, he therefore COULDN'T be a follower of Strauss' philosophy because in following a philosophy that advocates for leaders to tell lies, a leader couldn't lie about it, huh?
And a Constitutional scholar couldn't support the egregious attacks on civil liberties we've experienced, eh?
It's just those darn circumstances that has made Obama renege on nearly every promise of his campaign, huh?
I guess in the end you're one of the people that believes Obama is actually just a terrible President being buffeted by the winds of political storm due to his inexperience and naivete.
All the while, the elite have made out like bandits under him.
Lucky ducks.
So, I'm glad I made you laugh.
I wish your comment didn't make me cry for the future of our country.
POLY: You left out Obama's chosen appointments... every one of them a believer in one form or another of The Chicago School's methods. Heck, they've turned the whole Disaster Capitalism on the American people by spending what was in the treasury on tax cuts for the rich and wars of empire. Now with little left, they have cover for enacting the dirty deed of dismantling all those pesky social "welfare" programs like Social Security. If that doesn't smack of Strauss and the boys, what does?
This is why I couldn't be a capitol reporter, I couldn't sit there as a mushroom eternally listening to and coping out the SHIT! that the government puts out everyday! I see the press conferences and wonder; doesn't anybody have shoes! (to throw!) how can you just sit there, and listen to how their dismantling the government, privatizing everything, Murdering more people we'd never meet otherwise, and blaming workers and their unsustainable benifits for it all!! as reporters you don't consider yourself as a worker??
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Ask Helen Thomas what happens when you dont comply in the WH.....
Who are "the boys"?
Oilybomber is piloting the USSA in a 20 g force, nose dive, tailspin into the earth and people say lets wait and see.
All of these oblique digs. Fine, I'll bite:
Or some people who have been watching this 30 YEAR nose dive are saying that now the plane is about to finally touch down AFTER 30 YEARS - no matter who the pilot - we should be wary of what THEIR endgame is.
I really hate to break it to you, but we've basically already lost the war in the sense that we've lost EVERY SINGLE battle over the last 30 years.
To win, we can't take back 30 years of onslaught overnight.
We can't have the mentality that if we win ONE battle we're going to win the war.
But you and others here do, throwing aside any sense of caution/wisdom that we should have at least accrued while getting our asses handed to us again and again and again.
I guess, all of the citizens of Stalingrad should have rushed out to meet the Nazis on the field of battle, eh?
Go down in a blaze of glory and all, huh?
Do you understand that if you were a general, you'd be considered crazy?
Hey, I understand the anxiety and hatred living as an intelligent person in this day and age can engender, but you CANNOT lose your ability to see clearly the lay of the land and where you stand.
How many people we have on your side - we're in the VAST minority - and how much ammunition we have - if money can be considered ammunition in this environment - I believe we're screwed.
And you truly believe the turning point is upon us? That we're going to win?
As Steve Martin used to say, Well, excuuuuuuuusssssee me, for not being so optimistic and hopeful.
We need to survive right now and surviving means at least exhibiting some sense of wariness and acknowledgment that our environment is dangerous no matter how much we want to engage in some onanistic self-immolative battle to the end.
Why?
Because once we inevitably lose and there are none of us left, there will be no one left to carry on the fight which WILL continue.
Surviving doesn't mean pinning all of your hopes of salvation upon every single good thing that happens to us which, AGAIN, I believe Wikileaks to be - a potentially good thing for us but definitely not THE GREATEST THING EVAH!
So for the hopefully the last time, chill out man, because I'm on your freaking side.
In all seriousness, Polycarpe, if lying made one a Straussian, then virtually all politicians are Straussians. As Dr. House says, everybody lies. And again more seriously, one wonders if it is possible to manage any regime, but especially a democratic regime, without lying. The people are many, and unwise. They are buffeted by the winds of passion. What are you going to do?
I don't see any evidence that President Obama is a Straussian because he doesn't speak or act like a Straussian. If it doesn't look like a duck, walk like a duck, or quack like a duck, it's probably not a duck. The President seems to me to buy in completely to the modern project of universal peace, prosperity, safety and entertainment - the relief of man's estate. That is what he sees as the political good. I don't see in him any of the longing for the return to classical virtue that I, anyway, associate with Straussians. If he is, as you suggest, dissembling, why? What is his angle? Why would he not simply have run for potus as a Republican?
I do think that President Obama is in over his head a little, but I never did think that he was some sort of savior (which seemed to be a common projection during the campaign), so I am not terribly disappointed in his performance. In fact, he has performed better than I expected. I was afraid that he might do something really crazy, like pull precipitously out of Iraq or Afghanistan.
Although philosophically Straussians believe that they are lying in pursuit of some sort of virtue, I believe their belief that the LIE is necessary as the subjects are too stupid to think for themselves is in ample evidence in Obama's attitudes and reactions towards criticism from those supposedly within his own party and ranks.
IOW, for all practical purposes, once leaders start lying all lies can be reasoned away with "it's for the good of the coutnry", "the people just don't undestand", etc.
So, I'll agree that maybe Obama isn't a philosophical Straussian but in practice he very much is.
Ergo, I do think he is a duck.
"Why would he not simply have run for potus as a Republican?"
To answer this question I'm copying a great post by Boyd C. Watkins from another thread - the one on NAFTA and SHAFTA - as I feel it succinctly sums up the situation:
"The ruling elite found a winning formula in Obama. He successfully neutralized the growing left opposition to the Bush/Cheney regime while legitimating the Bush policies of unending wars, torture, illegal surveillance and detentions, ecological devastation and tax breaks for the rich. Obama has indeed been "carefully developed and designed" to fit their needs and he is performing flawlessly."
Lakoff argues the left needs to play the same game as the right, only better. Certainly that is the way to get political power. At the same time, those of us who value language and rational argument have questions about substituting "greed crisis" for "economic crisis" and "public theft" for "tax breaks." After all, the purpose of such exchanges is to manipulate the thinking of voters, something some of us on the left abhor. I think the sloganeering and Madison Avenue approach to marketing the ideas of the left must be abandoned in favor of straight-out truth-telling. Progress might be slower, but it will be built upon a more solid footing. Lakoff warns against propaganda qua FOX News, but then he suggests terms that fall into that category. They should be avoided.
However that does not mean leftists have to accept the verbal frameworks set up by the right. When they talk about "tax breaks", a progressive being interviewed should make it clear to the interviewer that we are talking about "tax reductions." "Tax relief" should not be accepted at all. Frames like "failing schools" likewise--or they must be defined--"Do you mean private, parochial, charter, or public?" Nuanced thinking (and a sense of humor, at times) is appreciated by most people--that is what we should practice in our dialogue with the other side.
DROSERA: You raise good points, but here's the thing: how do leftists ACQUIRE media time? Within the answer to that question lies the rub! Framing would be a secondary issue IF those with humane ideas actually got air, press, and media TIME! How many pro-peace/anti-war voices were on-air in the run-up to war with Iraq? How many got to talk about the public option when the health care "debate" was on? How many get to REALLY talk about climate change, and link it to fossil fuel usage, along with America's profligate lifestyles?
Unless you are independently wealthy, like Al Gore, Michael Moore, or perhaps even Lakoff... the capacity to be seen, read, or heard is marginalized to the point of invisibility. There are a few rare, notable exceptions... Julian Assange, being one, and note the price he currently faces?
"how do leftists ACQUIRE media time?"
As you say, they will rarely be given media exposure, and never when it actually counts. Framing and clever use of words that wont be heard is no substitute for media exposure.
But the understanding of marketing and propaganda, which appears to be the same thing, may one day turn out to be very useful, and I speak as someone without a firm grip on that subject matter. The landscape that we accept as reality may change completely and we may find ourselves playing a different game, as did once happen in France, Spain, Russia, China and Cambodia. You can see our downward spiral of wealth inequity and the ecological downward spiral, so you know there has to be change, even if part of our imagination resists. Opportunities may arise in the future. It may help to understand the conditioning that is inside our own minds. It may help us break down the conditioning of other people.
We are all SO materialistic. Our media has relentlessly strengthened that part of our minds. Anything privately owned is cherished. Anything publicly owned is devalued and abused accordingly. There are places in the world with iron bars on every window, and security guards with automatic rifles and bullet proof jackets visible outside every big store. This is where "mine mine mine", otherwise known as inequitable concentration of wealth, leads. Our current mindset is one where anything other than "mine mine mine" is said to be "anti wealth" (more clever words). Mars has a companion called greed.
But not every culture is "mine mine mine". Another mindset is possible, but not with the mental conditioning given to us at present. If we understand it, we may one day be able to break it down. Maybe.
A few progressives get air time. Bernie Sanders will get some, after today--perhaps on the Sunday talk shows. The point is, they must always be ready to stop the interviewer and reframe the issue--that is one way they can educate the public. Each one of us can do the same thing whenever we post somewhere or talk to others who do not share our perspective. Sometimes I think we should go to sites like Yahoo! and make comments there--always casting issues in language that makes sense to us--though, as I said before, that does not mean creating offensive propaganda. Sometimes it is enough to point out bias in the language the other side uses to get people thinking.
It wouldn't matter if you had black helecopters with loudspeakers flying over with your message 24/7. the American Sheeple want sound bites, short so they can get between chewing.
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When leftists get "media time" (the positive type) then they are no longer leftists, they are part of the system.
The "media" is not motivated by concepts like Social Justice . They are motivated by what is most PROFITABLE.
Seeking the blessing of an entity that is concerned with profits will corrupt the message of peoples that think there things more important then "profits"
We have to find ways of bypassing the media entirely rather then trying to get them onboard. The media would only broadcast the message of the left if there was MONEY in it.
Hi Sioux,
"how do leftists ACQUIRE media time?"
We don't need to, at least not the same type of time that the corporate media utilizes. They have endless channels of nonsense.
I believe a meme should be spread among progressives establishing what is, and is not legitimate news. Establish clear directions from us to the news consumer of what *we consider legit*. Like an 'Organic' label for the news, given out honorarily by us (T.A. ought to love this) to those who've earn it.
This is far more crucial than having our voice heard in the corporate media.
On the left we already pretty much read and respond to a core set of main news outlets, and listen regularly to a core set of journalists and opinion writers (with a great deal of diversity on the side). I never intend to squelch that diversity – it's essential to maintain – but if we begin to compile a core list of 'orthodox' progressives, and progressive news outlets, and insist they are the only ones that legitimately can be considered to speak for us, we could begin to foster the type of stringent message loyalty that is required.
Again, it's not necessary for us to have MANY outlets for out news. Its necessary, at least until we gain much higher prominence, to foster message loyalty.
This meme must be spread at first by the group, but eventually would come to be considered 'doctrine' by a set of prominent progressive representatives who would establish an 'official' panel. The idea is to force internal cohesiveness so our message can be clearly understood, and not maligned by the corporate media. Again and again, we must hammer home to the public that if they really wish to know what we represent, they will watch this channel, listen to this show, follow this writer.
Establishment of core doctrine (this article does a great job for me), fostering internal cohesion, establishing a clear rejection of the mainstream dialog, and a clear direction to turn to in order to correct the disconnect.
We only need one *effective* outlet to succeed – look how many on the right look only to FOX. The demand for a legitimate left-alternative is there, but the cohesive message is lacking, and will never be promoted by the corporate media programmers.
I'm confused about this. Since conservatives have done such an effective job of communicating, and since they own political discourse in this country, why am I not a right-wing zombie?
It seems we're absolving people of responsibility for filtering the information they are bombarded with on a daily basis. They do not research, follow through or think for themselves. In other words, they are intellectually lazy, and they believe what they see on the idiot box, which is controlled almost exclusively by conservative elements.
Conservatives have a superior message machine because they are bankrolled by the huge corporations that own the media. Liberals learning effective framing will not change that dynamic.
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. The bottom line is a lazy, ill-informed electorate will have their government, their rights, and eventually their wealth and their lives stolen from them.
The right may have better hypnotists, but a subject must be willing to be hypnotized in the first place. A large portion of this country has ceded independent thought to the conservative propaganda machine. I for one am not willing to have Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin do my Civics homework. I prefer to exercise my capacity for critical thought and actually pass the class.
You are not a zombie because you use both your emotions and reason to find solutions to problems. There is a large group of people who use only emotions to make decisions. Connect that with racism, a poor education, and the constant propaganda from our fawning corporate media and you end up with people who cannot think for themselves. You yourself say that the Right has a superior message machine because of corporate contributions. I hope you realize that the Right has lots of money because their propaganda is effective against the uneducated (emotional) thinking of the common citizen.
You say that a person must be willing to be hypnotized. Not so. That's why advertising is in such demand. These ad agencies spend billions researching the latest psychological findings in order to persuade people to buy things based on emotional thinking. They use these same findings to manipulate citizen political thoughts concerning all things liberal and conservative.
Lakoff knows what he's talking about and you can go to Cognitive Policy Works and learn more about political psychology.
It's better to resist and lose than it is to not fight at all. If you don't fight back you'll be employing Obama's tactics.
"That's Why Advertising is in such Demand"
Please elaborate on JUST WHO IT IS that demands advertising?
(In this culture in particular, It is constant unending messaging that seduces the direction of the youngest child's cognitative abilities through all of life down to seniors ready to take a "final breath", that is so invasively corrosive and manipulative!
Well stated. I myself could not read through all the absurd psychobabble peddled in this article. It just shows what a treacherous minefield the college curriculum for fields of study such as psychology/sociology invariably becomes. The sheer arrogance of the author's stated authority on such matters jumps out of the proverbial virtual page as an assault on the senses. The zeal for power to manipulate language and influence others by way of its communication is intrinsically corrupt and demands of the other to resign him/herself to the passive role in the receiving end of this process. It limits the role of communication to the narrow construct of deterministic and commodified relationships. It all sounds like more of the free market drivel which has come to saturate American culture over the last thirty or more years and betrays the insidious dominance of the corporate structure in educational institutions. The use of language and other forms of communication should not be compromised by the mere knowledge and manipulation of the limbic regions of our brains.