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Nation's Largest Union: Change Health Care Bill Or Else
The nation's largest union group said Thursday that it will not
support the Democratic health-care bill unless "substantial changes"
are made to the current Senate version.
AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement to reporters that
without a public option for insurance coverage or an employer mandate -
and with a tax on high-end insurance plans that some union members get
- the health care legislation supported by Senate Democrats falls far
short of meeting his group's standards.
"[For] this health care bill to be worthy of the support of working men and women, substantial changes must be made," said Trumka. "The AFL-CIO intends to fight on behalf of all working families to make those changes and win health care reform that is deserving of the name."
The remarks are a strong indication that the coalition of pro-health-care-reform groups has begun to fray. Earlier in the day, Service Employees International Union President Andy Stern penned a letter to his fellow union members in which he called out President Barack Obama for abandoning his own principles of reform.
"President Obama must remember his own words from the campaign. His call of 'Yes We Can' was not just to us, not just to the millions of people who voted for him, but to himself. We all stood shoulder to shoulder with the President during his hard fought campaign. And, we will continue to stand with him but he must fight for the reform we all know is possible," Stern wrote.
"Our challenge to you, to the President, to the Senate and to the House of Representatives is to fight," Stern continued. "Now, more than ever, all of us must stand up, remember what health insurance reform is all about, and fight like hell to deliver real and meaningful reform to the American people."
Stern, like Trumka, called for Democrats to make changes to the legislation as the process moves forward. And his rebuke of Obama - a staunch personal ally - was a telling sign of the growing frustration within the labor movement.
Both labor leaders were particularly incensed over the concessions made by the Senate's Democratic leadership to Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), the 60th member of their caucus. "The public option is declared impossible. Americans cannot purchase Medicare at an earlier age. The health insurance reform effort we have needed for a century is at risk," Stern wrote.
Officials at both unions met late into the night on Wednesday in emergency sessions to discuss the Senate bill. Aides say the conversations were lengthy and, at times, emotional. The labor community, while privately angry with the White House and Democrats in Congress, still needs the support of these lawmakers on other legislative priorities. Meanwhile, having poured millions into advertisement and man-hours in order to get health care passed, they have watched in horror as the principles they worked for were abandoned in a matter of days.
Officials are also aware of how much would be lost by simply scrapping the bill altogether. Stern noted that under the Senate's bill 30 million additional people would be covered, pre-existing conditions would no longer be an excuse to deny coverage, and people who get sick would no longer lose their insurance. Trumka, likewise, pointed to "good things" in the Senate bill, including the fact that "insurance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions or impose lifetime or unreasonable annual limits."- Posted in



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Show All"...pre-existing conditions would no longer be an excuse to deny coverage, and people who get sick would no longer lose their insurance..."
No, but your premiums will triple.
Yes, these are at best half-truths...
30 million additional people would be covered...yes if you mean "covered" in the way Americans are covered now, ie you are covered until you get too sick, then oops, you have met your yearly limit, no more cancer drugs for you.
pre-existing conditions would no longer be an excuse ...As you said mujeriego, you are covered if you can afford the ballooning premiums, no? too bad.
matthew loughran
this so called reform is dog crap wrapped in health reform happy talk. its just a big give away to the US corporate money driven insurance non health system.
you bet your ass premiums will be out of control because asshole insurance companies will need to make even more profits and maybe cover people. it sounds like the insurance industry will make vague promises and then later on will back out completely. same crap we have come to love from this asshole industry.
what Obama of course means is :
"30 million additional" americans will be TRAPPED and IMPRISONED into paying into the SKYROCKETING PROFITEERING THIEVERY of the pharmaceuticals, insurers, and other "health deliverers" whose main interest is to enrich themselves at PUBLIC EXPENSE -- managed and channeled through PRIVATIZATION.
that's what he really means...in his florid LYING.
this is Obama's and his cronies' version of SLAVERY .
this is of course the genius of capitalism , especially american capitalism: bury people in all kinds of pablum and rhetoric and justifications as well as threats and predictions of dire circumstances unless obeyed ("medicaire and social security are going to drive us to bankruptcy...but NOT WAR and Private Profiteers drinking at the public trough")..and make it APPEAR as if people are "exercising YOUR right to choose" when in fact, it is nothing of the sort.
the chains and whips might not be as crude as of generations and centuries ago -- but they run a Chain -Gang Racket of exploitation, thievery , enslavement , like the old Slave Plantation owners. and obama is their "UNCLE TOM" who has no conscience or shame at what he is doing against people everywhere.
Well... Trumka's speaking out is feebly encouraging.
I don't trust Andy Stern as far as I could throw him. He's as much of a self-serving, time-serving opportunist as the Oval Officer.
· Yr Obd't Servant
The platform of the California Democratic Party CALLS FOR SINGLE PAYER and our elected representatives should be standing up for THAT.
Any incumbents who can't find the spine to do so should be CHALLENGED in their Democratic primary and NOT be supported unquestioningly for re-election.
PROGRESSIVES need to play hard ball and DEMAND CHANGES in the Senate bill or THEY SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR IT.
How many signed that letter SAYING they had to have the public option and WOULDN'T VOTE for a bill without it???
GREAT that two of our largest unions are standing up for the people since our elected Democrats are standing with the for-profit insurance monopolies instead. Where are the teachers' unions??? They need to join this solidarity effort NOW.
Salvage the Dems ? LOL ...
The incumbents are locked in ...
You really want to see Dems get the message?
Register Green Party ...
the Green Party might also strengthen or build , if not already present, an alliance with the NURSES' Unions - starting with that one in california...
has anyone noticed - that countrywide - the NURSES - through their unions - and hand in hand with them , their fellow workers, Nurses' Aides, who may or may NOT be in SEIU or other unions, are among the most PRINCIPLED americans in terms of trying to show the needs and rights and strength of workers and labor together?
THEY would be a PERFECT fit with the Green party...if for nothing else than that the great majority of nurses are WOMEN -- who above all -- understand best what it means to be a MOTHER, to CARE for others, to SACRIFICE so others can be treated better, so bring up families, to BUDGET tight budgets and YET be so creative in finding solutions , that most often , men leave behind as a mess.
I am , frankly , AMAZED at the nurses unions in the country who try to stand up for not just THEIR rights but of their fellow other workers in other departments and industries.
they are a highly OVERLOOKED source of strength in the USA.
maybe because they are women? and that's a BIG MISTAKE in a society that has been so messed up by the MALES!
Women are, imo, Super Beings.
Umm, a good percentage of nurses are men now. Have been for a long time.
If Unions had any guts and really wanted to push their members agenda they would join a third party.
The unions have been betrayed by every Democratic President since LBJ ...
It is clear that they will continue to get undercut and sold out with the likes of the Democratic Party.
The Unions should make cause with the Green Party to create a real, substantial, sustainable third political party ...
The only way forward for unions is another political party. If they don't they will continue to shrink into irrelevance ... Union Brothers ... Join the Green Party!
Without proportional representation, you may as well join the Repugs.
The Dems are now the Repugs ... The Repugs are now the party of insanity ...
The Green Party is the only way to go ... Take responsibility for yourself because neither of the two large parties gives a damn about you ...
The Green Party is the only viable party to save America ... the others will only save the plutocrats ... at our expense of course ...
Sigh...
Raise Hell or get walked all over ezeflyer ...
This is no time left to "Sigh" ... Your indifference to change isn't gonna save you because change is coming anyway and unless you have the funds to take care of yourself and everyone you care about you're in it, like it or not ...
"Raise hell" mmckni?
What do you mean? Do you mean organize? Vote..."Green"? Like the Greens are really going to ...do something...pivotal? Profound?
"That" is your definition of "raising hell"?
You don't have a clue to what raising hell is.
Go ahead... knock yourself out, mmckini. We'll be watching you as you & the Greens "save the nation".
I've seen the Greens in action, and it ain't pretty. Worse than the nitwits in the democratic party. They mean well, I respect what they stand for, but they're complete buffoons. They'll be easier to take out than fish in a barrel. Sorry, but its true.
So, lotsaluck, mmckini.
P.S. Until Ralph, Moore, Maher, Moyers, and a few others decide to pony-up an organization that can actually do something, (instead of raking in the dough at our expense) you're on your own.
LOL ... I'm NOT on my own ... in fact the Green Party was established long before I found it ...
Just registering say 10% of the electorate will send shivers through the Dems. Then if they continue to ignore progressive ideas we run right at them ...
I don't think you understand just how fed up the left is with the Democratic Party.
Wow, Unions and Greens. Imagine!
Unions ~ Green ... it's a natural fit ...
As energy becomes ever more expensive and we want to move to carbon neutrality the economy will have to become much more localized and expensive.
Greens offer localization and jobs to the unions ...
Unions offer the Greens a way for people to afford higher costs by offering better paying jobs ...
I can see a convergence of interests that would bond the two together ...
Tariffs, Health Care, Carbon Taxes remitted to the people, Working conditions, war against the banksters, the US Chamber of Commerce ... and the list goes on and on.
Yes ... Unions and the Greens are all about people ...
I HEARTILY agree with you.
If Unions have always been betrayed anyway ..and treated and REDUCED , despite their support for "democrats" or so-called "liberals and progressives" that are FAKE such , to such a tiny fraction in the USA -= albeit with SOME SUBSTANTIAL money still...
and also treated as if they were coming from a "third , irrelevant" party once elections are over....
they might as well be WITH the Green Party , BEHAVE and LIVE LIKE the way they are reduced to - "third" or "outsider" - and put their money, efforts, volunteerism, symbolism WITH the Green party...
and from THERE - create a new demonstration to the REST of IDIOT AMERICA - what a "green party/labor party" REALLY can do when no longer under duress from the TRAITORIOUS democrats and their ALLIES - republicans.
i agree that this is a way to STRENGTHEN BOTH the unions and the green party -- and serve REAL NOTICE to the democrats - they CAN BE DESTROYED by a "small party" or a "small constituency" such as UNIONS - simply by withholding support and transfering that support elsewhere AND SHOWING that a unified and stronger Union, labor movement and Green Party
EXEMPLIFIES what americans actually - deep inside - HAVE ALWAYS HOPED for, and bring a sense of decency to everyone.
I believe it can even be a potential SEISMIC movement - something akin to a small stone falling, knocking off another stone, they roll and eventually it's an AVALANCHE that will sweep away ALL resistance.
I agree with you MMCKINL.
Yep, and why not ...
It indeed could be a seismic movement if they can accommodate a little compromise. The issues and policies can be ironed out to support both labor and the greens.
For instance carbon emissions ... a carbon tax rebated to Americans per capita to cover cost of living increases with tariffs for protection and credits for exports.
There are very few differences that couldn't be worked through ...
Agree --
Unhappy voters just walking away will do nothing --
However, an alliance of liberals/progressives/Catholics and all others who
want a single payer government run program as a voting block would make quite
a difference!!
The majority of Americans favor a government run program -- and Catholics want
CONTRACEPTION and ABORTION to be covered!!!
"According to all myth, the female - not the male -- gives life"
The nation's largest union group said Thursday that it will not support the Democratic health-care bill unless "substantial changes" are made to the current Senate version.
wow. withdraw support. that'll do it.
if the largest union in the country wanted to make a point, they should walk out on a 72hr strike. then threaten a 1 week strike, then one month, etc, etc until single payer is back in the legislation.
they would break or at least unleash the dragoons.
Andy Stern: "we will continue to stand with him but he must fight for the reform we all know is possible,"
Well, parse down that sentence into what stands in front of and behind the "but"; and tell me which part the President is going to respond to. Since Obama signalled long before the election, when Stern's union was canvassing its rear end off campaigning for Obama, that he was not really on board for "universal health care," Obama has already learned that there is no "or else" that means anything in what Stern and the SIEU expect or even demand of him. If they'll "continue to stand with him" no matter what, what incentive is there for him to "fight for the reform we all know is possible?" Hasn't the President already told you that what you want is impossible? Maybe you need another horse to "stand by" the vision of a just society rather than one of a great market for his plutocratic friends. If Common Dreams in posting this article found an "or else" in the union's demand, well that's their problem and the problem of the whole "Progressives for Obama" press.
it is tragic and funny and ironic:
but more than a year ago ...I met some SEIU officials..i mean organizers...and told off-handedly..."just MY opinion....i understand the political difficulties, the compromises, etc...but ...unless unions , even with spending so much money for a candidate (who ALSO NEEDS their foot-work volunteerism and money) ...STICK to SINGLE PAYER, ALL OTHER "options" will FAIL...and you will see that you and people will be betrayed in the end".
I was right.
I've long disputed the the premise of holding an Elected Misrepresentative's feet to the fire; it sounds well, but at best naïvely begs the question.
My observation and experience dictate that in the first place, "holding" is much more a question of creeping up to the target and effecting a "hotfoot" measurable in sound bites.
Even assuming for the sake of argument that the Misrepresentative's limbs are duly seized and suspended at length over a suitable heat source, typically the appendages ostensibly being held to the fire prove to terminate in cloven hooves, quite accustomed to warm places.
So, in the general spirit of your comment, I offer this amended headline:
"Nation's Largest Union: Change Health Care Bill Or Else... Or Else We'll Be Really, REALLY Mad!"
· Yr Obd't Servant
Time to get off Obama's Titanic before it sinks!
Or else what? They'll disband the union? I'm sure the insurance execs are wetting their pants over that threat...with laughter!
Nah. They'll write an angry letter. They'll go on The Daily Show and say Obama MUST do...mmm whatever it is. They'll go on Democracy Now and tell Amy Goodman how REALLY ANGRY they are!
Then they'll deposit their nice paychecks in the bank and when nobody's looking....snicker all the way home.
Its time for a General Strike. Far past due....
Idiots are acting selfishly, and have long ago come to own our legislatures.
General Strike, YES. There some 40 idiots inthe senate that still have to run for reelection. Lets shut it down, let them know that we still have the B*** to back our voices with action.
"Stern noted that under the Senate's bill 30 million additional people would be covered, pre-existing conditions would no longer be an excuse to deny coverage" God, I'm about to pull my hair out. Why can't any reporter get this straight? A public mandate forcing 30 million people to buy insurance isn't providing insurance. As far as preexisting conditions, the insurance companies under the Senate bill, will be able to charge up to 50 percent more for premiums for those deemed to have preexisting conditions. It doesn't take a freaking brain surgeon to guess that the insurance companies are going to deem even more people as having preexisting conditions, and that each will be charged the 50 percent additional premium. Kill this stinking pile of crap. The public mandate is that part that caused me to re-register as an independent. That and Obama's morphing into George W. Bush.
Well said.
You mean the zionist puppet strings caused the replacement chimp to crash into his predecessor?
Excellent!
All we need is someone in the DOJ who is smart enough to put two and two together and come up with four. Senator Lieberman must be charged with giving favours for cash donations. What else do you call $1 million in donations from the insurance industry and his intransigence over a public option? It's out and out venality and sale of his vote for cash. Charge him and let him explain why he has been.
Well if every sick person in America went to providers and demanded health care that might be a good start. As part of the community integration project that is how services were determined. We are going to take a seat and if after you speak to our laywer you still feel that you cannot provide services, we will leave.
Or, every American with any conscience could cancel thier health insurance until there is some level of equality. The consequences have to fit the crime because this is not going to get better.
""President Obama must remember his own words from the campaign. His call of 'Yes We Can' was not just to us, not just to the millions of people who voted for him, but to himself. We all stood shoulder to shoulder with the President during his hard fought campaign. And, we will continue to stand with him but he must fight for the reform we all know is possible," Stern wrote."
-- Obama's fighting as hard as he can, and yes he can do what he set out to do. It's just that what he really meant is not what you though he meant. Yes he can make sure the banks, the insurance companies and the pharmaceuticals can rip us off big time.
Since no Rethuglican will ever vote for this, why dont they just strip out all the obstructionist GOP ammendments, and actually pass something worthwhile, not just some empty vanity legislation for Obama to run on in 2012.
Otherwise, this will be Obama's "Mission Accomplished" moment.
I don't know. Why don't you ask that good Democrat Senator Baucus about that?
The reason is that it isn't just the Repugs we are fighting. There are a whole host of people who are bought and paid for on Capitol hill. Why do you think Bankers steal from us no matter which party wins?
The lesson of this legislation is clear.
We are a nation of dollars, not a nation of people.
We need to challenge many Democrats in the primaries and we need to put pressure on every single republican race. Otherwise what we will get is a cross between Bernie Madoff and Sarah Palin for a government.
Oh, and voting in a few more socialists like Bernie Sanders couldn't hurt!
peacekeepertwo:I agree,lets forget about the current health legislation. we need work hard to replace all conservatives, with true progressives. When progressives take control of both houses,pass single-payer. Don't forget president Obama's first term, will have ended when the current legislation takes effect,so lets get something worth our support.Who knows who will be president in 2013?
The GOP is the least of our problems right now. It is Obama, Lieberman, Nelson, Rahm, and other blue dogs. Rachel Maddow illustrated the problem very well last night. I haven't been watching the show too much, but tuned in for a couple of minutes and watched her segment on "Kill Bill." The way I see it, really, unless we the people really start raising hell there is not a chance. Obama just wants a bill, but he doesn't want to find himself in the position of signing something that's truly good for the people, because his corporate buddies would desert him. Lieberman and Nelson and the GOP want to kill the bill for their nefarious reasons that are, of course, similar to Obama's. Then there is Dean and Sanders who want to kill it for the best it will hurt the people.
"We all stood shoulder to shoulder with the President during his hard fought campaign"
Hmm, so thanks in part to the labor unions, USans were forced to hand over a full one third of their annual income to the, gulp, banksters! They should have supported third party candidates, and served notice that business as usual would have to come to an end. I tell ya, these organizations, labor unions, academic institutions, corporations, demonstrate the poorest judgment. I don't think any of them have capable leadership which suggests that the organization should simply not exist.
Andy Stern is a two faced bastard who should not be trusted anyway! He has sold out union members to the corporate rats on several occasions!
Bring America Back !!!!
****Congrats to Mr Trumka, AFL_CIO, for seeing thru the false prophet Obama.
****When Obama threw Single Payer Healthcare under his bus, He also failed the average American, and all those suffering under the broken system as now devolved !!!!
****We must vote no on this terrible lack of Reform, and re org next year, again on the Single Payer system as our only way to Ted Kennedy's Dream.
As Obama has failed us, we must reject this pandering to the same ol' Big Med, Pig Pharma, and Big HMO, and Big AMA !
Gov Howard Dean is absolutely correct==Kill this terri ble bill of no Reform !!!!
Personally I no longer believe that anyone can offer us the leadership we want unless our support comes with conditions. It is the unconditional support of 'leaders' that allows leaders to stray, and take us all down errant roads to disaster.
What we are witnessing unfold is another chapter in the history of unconditional leadership. Will this chapter be the one that when we turn the final page we see two big magical words....
The End.
Leea: beautiful statement of what ails us today: "the cult of the leader."
The history of America is filled by the legend of challenges from both business and government. What was America's hope once was the media, but this too has been taken over by big business and editorial policies that favored the haves. The will of the people had one last resort and that was to unite in unions of brotherhood seeking justice.
Here again we seek the court of last resort. Thank God for the union movement in our nation. We have hope when we come together to stand against the might and oppression of the controlling corporations.
Believe in peace and justice and act with those who are willing to take a stand against the evil of oppression. Health Care must be reformed so all people in our nation may live.
Third paragraph of story:
"[For] this health care bill to be worthy of the support of working men and women, substantial changes must be made," said Trumka. "The AFL-CIO intends to fight on behalf of all working families to make those changes and win health care reform that is deserving of the name."
So? Who cares what the AFL-CIO wants? Besides, it seems a little late...
Meanwhile, one gets the impression that the AFSCME is sitting on the sidelines because they get to keep theirs.
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