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Naomi Klein Kick-Starts the Activism at Copenhagen with Call for Disobedience
If Seattle was the coming out party, this should be the coming of age party, Klein told the Klimaforum09 last night
The Copenhagen deal may turn into the worst kind of disaster capitalism, Naomi Klein said last night. In her speech to Klimaforum09, the "people's summit" she told the thousand or so campaigners and activists that this was a chance to carry on building the new convergence, the movement of movements that began "all those years ago in Seattle, fighting against the privatisation of life itself". Here was an opportunity to "continue the conversation that was so rudely interrupted by 9/11".
Speaking at Klimaforum09's opening ceremony in Copenhagen Naomi Klein told the audience: 'Let's not restrict ourselves to polite marches and formulaic panel discussions.' (Photograph: Mark Knudsen/Klimaforum09) "Down the road at the Bella Centre
[where delegates are meeting] there is the worst case of disaster
capitalism that we have ever witnessed. We know that what is being
proposed in the Bella Centre doesn't even come close to the deal that
is needed. We know the paltry emissions cuts that Obama has proposed;
they're insulting. We're the ones who created this crisis... on the
basic historical principle of polluters pays, we should pay."
Around the city, opening events were kicking off a fortnight of negotiations, debate and protest. In the morning Rajendra Pachauri, the chair of the IPCC, and Lars Løkke Rasmussen, the prime minister of Denmark, opened the conference with a plea for action.
Later, in the centre of town special UN envoy Gro Harlem Brundtland and climate change UN chief Yvo de Boer declared the heavily branded Hopenhagen open, as a globe bearing a large Siemens logos was illuminated. The popular Danish band Nephew kicked off (to bigger cheers than Brundtland or de Boer).
And in the evening Klein joined with Henry Saragih, the general convenor of the Via Campesina movement, and international Friends of the Earth chair Nnimmo Bassey, to declare Klimaforum09 the "real event in Copenhagen".
Saragih called for food sovereignty - greater power for small farmers - and said that changes to agricultural practices could reduce carbon emissions by up to 50%.
Bassey said that crude oil only appeared cheap because we do not pay the true price, and told the audience; "Leave the oil in the soil, leave the coal in the hole, leave the tarsand in the land". And Klein finished up:
We have to be the lie detectors here. Let's not restrict ourselves to polite marches and formulaic panel discussions. If Seattle was the coming out party, this should be the coming of age party. And, as a friend of mine called John Jordan says, I hope that we have grown up to be even more disobedient. Why are thousands of us burning fossil fuels to get here? Because we have to build a global mass movement that will not allow leaders to get away with what they are trying to get away with. Think of it as the mother of all carbon offsets.
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Show AllThe momentum of unsustainable growth will take us over the cliff. What then is the question?
Go Naomi in the tradition of Henry David Thoreau. No one can call for civil disobedience like you. And as far as unsustainable growth one really needs to think about Malthus.
Why didn't the North American Press catch Naomi's appearance?
You can bet they will catch Obama's cameo appearance.
Easy answer -- she's a self-serving show-boater, who will do whatever it takes to make the news -- if the news is lazy or stupid enough to pay attention to her. No one takes her books seriously -- unless they know very little history. (Unfortunately, given the current state of our universities, that means quite a few people.)
I would highly recommend reading "The Shock Doctrine" for those of you who already haven't done so. Then - make up your own minds.
The right wingers have always been more focussed, and more effective than the left. One major reason for this is that the left spends a lot of time fighting this kind of 'battle'. "No, you don't have the correct answers, because you didn't spell that word correctly!!! So, hahahahaha. You take your followers over there. MY way is the proper thing for the left to do."
Get a life. Organize. Work together.
Ben Franklin said it well: We either hang together or we hang separately.
Another reason is because the so called Left is only The Left in name.
The growth of posters with nonsensical names such as "th4377" spouting anti-progress and anti-left drivel on CD is quite interesting.
I challenge everyone on this site to either use their real names -or a genuine nom de plume- as their handle or as a signature.
For instance, my name REALLY IS "Matti".
-matti.
Yikes! Wish I was as smart and well read as thc4377.
"Why didn't the North American Press catch Naomi's appearance?"
Because central planning at the 300 million-head superdairy found that the cows consume more corn when their headsets are tuned to "the misadventures of dear leader".
FUCK Malthus. Read Buckminster Fuller.
We have the technology (via renewable energy) to END POVERTY TODAY! FOR EVERYONE ON THIS BIG BLUE SPINNING ROCK. But you $%#^&#s keep churning up this too-many-people, Corporate-backed fallacy, that, along with, nattering about LEFT-CENTER-RIGHT politics (how many INANE back-and-forth posts to Chris Hedges' screed, yesterday?) that keeps the REAL fight at bay! I'm talking multi-national corporations and their Bernaysian POWER against the rest of us!
Again, sadly, we have the (non-carbon burning) technology. We do not have the 'political' will to use it.
You don't win a war by using just one weapon, and war is never caused by one individual. The fight must be on several fronts at once, including the destruction of multi national corporations AND controlling a run away population. Humans lived on this planet for over a million years before our population first reached one billion - in about 1805-1810. When I was born 130 years later, in 1940, there were 2.24 billion people on the planet. There are now 6.75 billion. Only an idiot would think this is not a problem, or that it is not related. It is not just food. It is also overcrowding, which causes behavioral aberrations. It is over use of resources. It is pollution. I have been hiking and sailing in 'wilderness' for over 50 years. The alteration in what I see out there is horrifying. It must be dealt with on many levels, and one of those - a very important one - is population control.
MichaelC 1:26 pm - I have heard your population argument before and it has many flaws. My favorite is that you stop at the end of the line and say, "That's the problem. Too many people." Let's start at the beginning. A male has to inseminate a female. Yes? That's where the concerns begin, with the male and the female. The "population is too high" argument is fallacious because it fails to account for a simple fact: When any population of "females" is allowed to have economic and biological self-determination - the birth rate drops like a stone. As long as "females" are held as gender slaves, the population multiplies out of control. Free the "females", e.g. the ability to support herself without a male, and the right to terminate a pregnancy through abortion, the pill, or whatever means of contraception, and there is no problem - especially when matched to the "green" "renewable" resources and technologies we have on the table today. Maintain the feral bestiality of Exclusion, of male supremacy and gender slavery, you get what we have today, squalor, degradation, destitution. Not rocket science.
On the other hand of course, if we're REALLY SERIOUS about reducing population, we could sterilize all but a tiny handful of the males - that would solve the population problem too. We could hold a national lottery. The winners get to keep their testes. Somehow I don't think you had that alternative in mind, did you? I suspect something along the lines of forcible sterilization of the women we have made poor? Something like that? I hope not.
"we could sterilize all but a tiny handful of the males - that would solve the population problem too."
lucky, that line makes it quite clear you are not a biologist so why make a big issue out of MichaelC's biological argument with your own particular sociological viewpoint (which nevertheless might well be true).
'Free the "females", e.g. the ability to support herself without a male'
Most of the women of the world already support themselves and their children while the men go out sport hunting, war-making, and card-playing. So what do you think the women of the world really need?
Overpopulation might be one of the symptoms of capitalism. Too many useless products and services readily accessible in places they have no business being. Thus making people have to work less for rewards that before required sweat. All that extra energy is then used in the sack with the wife.:)
Though I agree with most of your post, particularly what you say about the global overpopulation disaster, I disagree that we could or even should set our sights on destroying multinationals. If anything good can be said of them its that they have economies of scale. I think we could concentrate instead in reducing and eliminating the harm they do. Since the harm they do is a function of money-power concentration and its disdain for the environment, addressing this basic problem is a priority. Spreading the wealth business generates by limiting wealth/power concentration through limits on personal net worth would democratize business decisionmaking. It would be practically impossible to think that because a few oligarchs living in ivory towers can crassly foul everyone's nest, that an entire populace benefitting from corporations is likely to befoul the places where they live.
Old Peculiar, Bucky had it right, so have lots of others, and you are right, the means exist they have ALWAYS existed. Humans, especially the White Majority in this country, have to be willing to create a society based on Inclusion, a place where everybody gets an equal starting place at the table, a place that rejects the rights of conquest as the force that gives our lives meaning, and we have to be willing to let our Oligarchy die, become an artifact of history like barrow mounds and the divine right of kings (or capital). We won't. Total identity loss. It was that way in the mid-60's when we had the greatest distribution of wealth among white males ever seen in 6000 years of human history. It's that way today. Quote: "I shouldn't be forced to pay for some poor (Black/Brown) person's health care. I don't want to smell them next to me in the waiting room. Who said life is supposed to be fair?" Nothing says it clearer. There's no "Party" there - that's Left/Right/Center. That's White America. That's why they are doomed, as a people, as a nation, as an Empire. They have condemned themselves to lives of feral bestiality.
We can't build a future in societies based on Exclusion. There is no future for a world based on Male Supremacy, Gender Slavery, Constant War, and blood drinking Oligarchy. Exclusion is the pyramidal logic of the Slave Plantation and that is what Oligarchy wants for itself, forever. Our problem is, too many in the White Majority would LOVE to, like Thomas Jefferson, receive a dowry of 200 human slaves (and a 14yo girl) and get an "E" Ticket validation for a life of Aristocratic wealth, power, and privilege - forever. They will swear to you that they will be "good Masters and pray to Yahweh for guidance.". That "logic" is burning up the planet and making life for humans nothing but Hell on Earth. For some, that Hell is richly deserved. For others, not. Welcome to the Nightmare Planet, the place where Evil triumphs, mostly.
I agree -- about Fuller.
the world , civilization has EVERYTHING we could possible need to enhance the lives of EVERY SINGLE human being , since long ago..but it is the social and political and economic systems that have been the failures in allowing that to happen. where we are today, technologically, scientifically is already far, far beyond the wildest imaginations of even the richest kings in history to satisfy every NEED or even every WANT.
we have to remember that, in fairness to AMERICA and/or the "whites" -- this disparity in thinking between the rich and poor is the SAME EVERYWHERE, in every culture, although it is in america that it is most established as not just tolerable but even a VIRTUE rather than - in a proper ethical society , an ABERRATION of ethics and morality that should be instantly treated by society at large as abhorrent and debased.
there was a remark by Albert Einstein - late in his life - after living to see the use of the atomic bomb on japan to show the world that the USA is the "BOSS"...
"IF I had known that this is how science and my discoveries were going to be used -- i would rather that I was a laborer and never discovered anything".
Well said. (Thanks for the many, rational posts, teddy.)
You too, LuckyLefty!
We don't have the technology- all we have is a bunch of ideas that haven't been proven beyond a test situation, that could maybe only in a very BEST case scenario together only replace MAYBE 20% of the oil we use now. There is no magic bullet, no techo-miracle, algae ain't gonna do it, solar, wind, thermal, and all the other fantasies out there.
Only one way to stop corporations- don't buy what they are selling.
From where are you getting your facts, blueskykate? (20 percent?!?)
Did you just throw that one out there?
Solar, wind and thermal (along with tidal) are not fantasies. Putting a man on the moon was a fantasy in 1960, that didn't seem to stop us.
Do you understand the concept of 'precession'?
How about 'ephemeralization'?
These are concepts that 21st century economists don't take into consideration, let alone an 18th century one like Malthus.
Fuller: "In the reality of physical-resource and knowledge potential we have seven billion billionaires on our planet, the probating and delivery of whose legacy, as amassed by the more-with-lessing contributions (ephemeralization) and loving sacrifices of all humans in all history, has been postponed by the game of making money with money by those who as yet MISINFORMEDLY OPERATE on the 1810 Malthusian assumption that "humanity is multiplying its population at a geometric rate while increasing its life-support foods, etc., only at an arithmetic rate" --- ergo, the money-makers assume that there is nowhere nearly enough life support for all. Malthus said the majority of humans are designed to suffer and die far short of their potential life-span. Darwin's "survival of the fittest" dictum has combined with that of Malthus to persuade the "haves" to be intelligently SELFISH and to LEGALLY FORTIFY their "haveness" position against the "have-nots."
The notion of scarcity, folks. It creates fear, which begets stagnation. Inequality becomes acceptable. Greed becomes enviable. Nature an afterthought.
God* help us...
*If there is one.
Blue sky 4:24 you are grossly under informed, there are numerous combinations of renewables that can power this nation . And it is all fairly old technology that has been ongoingly refined.
Geothermal is realy taking off now as a heating and cooling systym, the Geothermo which uses the earth found under everthing in the world.
See Sci Ameri Mag 2008 for cost and design for total USA power with just Solar.
Please step out of your self imposed dark age.
I love it. Such denial and such anger. Its amazing the thoughts that come out when Malthus is mentioned. None of your suggestions will work. Not even close. And by the way I knew Bucky personally. Blind as a bat. It is also amazing you get out of what you read that is closest to your beliefs and miss everything else. Dream on, and why not life is short and let other generations face the problems created by overcrowding. Maybe the term overcrowding is something you can handle unless you are a sardine. This is just the beginning that really got underway over 30 years ago.
someone clog the water cannon please!
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD-lQ4TIdqA
DESTINY
If our upper half of society has all the wealth,
and they are the 50% of voters who last November
showed up at the polls, and if most are self-absorbed
and never get involved, well then, is not life awesome
and grand?
For are we not the only ones with a window into reality,
and a clear vision of this thing called destiny?
The upper TENTH has almost all the wealth = 2/3rds and rising.
The other 90% have the rest = 1/3rd and falling.
Half of this "bottom 9/10ths" delude themselves into thinking that they are in some mythical "upper half of society" because their INCOMES are above -and even well above- the median.
Two reasons this is delusion:
1. Income doesn't mean wealth until debt is factored in. Millions of above-median income households have debt-to-asset ratios proportionate to the tens of millions of below-median ones, and therefore proportiate wealth. Even this ratio is shrinking since much of the "assets" of the above-median folks is in houses, cars, and consumer goods (appliances, electronics, etc.) whose value was always socially determined and is now disappearing. When that $500,000 McMansion in the ex-urbs is reduced to its "parts-value" of 25 to 50 grand, the above-medians have less real wealth than a Taco Bell worker with an iPod and a bus pass.
2. Even "above-median" becomes meaningless when the median is $40 -$45,000 a year but "middle class tax cuts" must extend to $250,000 a year. That's one helluva range of income for the "middle class"! Why? Because $250K a year don't mean dog sh!t when Goldman Sachs execs are looking at $2.5 MILLION as a BONUS for ruining the national economy! When some few folks get extra checks for TEN times the yearly income of the top of the "middle class", which is in itself already FIVE times the income of the "median household income", concepts like an "upper half" of the society become ludicrous.
-matti.
I believe it was Tricky Dick (Nixon, for the youngsters), who said that it was only the thousands of people in the streets around the U.S., D.C. N.Y.C., L.A., Chicago-that kept him from nuking North Vietnam.
The government does not listen to polite dialogue. The U.S. government, through its Army, Air Force, Marines, and Navy, have caused untold destruction on the planet through its bombings, trash & toxic material scattered from sea to shining sea, and on the seas.
It has bombed unmercifully, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Balkan states, Somalia, & dozens of other countries.
If enough people complain, with their feet in the streets, the U.S. government will listen. When the government understands what chaos their policies of spending trillions on wars, while letting the country go to hell, without medical care, appalling poverty, unemployment, homelessness, and its unending catering to billionaires, then it might do something. Until the people complain loudly enough, Obama/Bushes/Cheney/Clinton will continue smiling & telling the world, via unquestioning media on bended knee, things will not change.
Nixon never said that.
There's an Everest of material against the status quo.
No need to invent and "make stuff up."
waiguoren, just google Nixon nuclear bomb Vietnam.
Here's an extract from a 2002 Independent article I found:
In one segment of about 500 hours of discussions released by the National Archives, Nixon is heard discussing an extension of bombing raids over North Vietnam with Henry Kissinger, the national security adviser. Then, rather abruptly, he says: "I'd rather use the nuclear bomb." Whether Nixon was serious or trying to provoke Mr Kissinger is not clear. In his baritone voice, his adviser replies: "That, I think, would just be too much." But Nixon then goes on: "The nuclear bomb. Does that bother you? I just want you to think big."
The extent of the effect of protests on him and policy, I'm not sure.
Nixon was a paid actor saying and doing only what he was ordered.
Surely his impeachment was part of the grand smoke screen that
hides our make believe government.
I always thought this was a good cop/bad cop ploy that Henry Kissinger tried to use on the north Vietnamese in those secret Paris peace negotiations, in an orchestrated effort to make nuclear blackmail credible and utilitarian.
Behind closed doors and completely off the record, Nixon, supposedly, was depicted as a bit unstable, someone who had gone slightly nuts. There were powerful forces within the Pentagon too who (like MacArthur in the Korean War) wanted to make strategic use of nukes on the battlefield.
Therefore, it's smart realpolitik for you Vietnamese to compromise today with Henry the K. That way, Kissinger could take back to Washington some tangible signs of progress in the peace talks, and better use his influence inside the White House to help keep the loons from flying loose.
Your quotes from the National Archives tapes suggest this may not have been just a macabre negotiating move worthy of half a Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe it was live, rather than Memorex.
Bill from Saginaw
BLIND ALLEY
You talk only about the misery of the problem,
which only blinds our mind by burning our emotions.
Then you lead us into a blind alley by the false hope
that paid actor politicians will yield to pressure, when
such darkness would surely destroy our will to resist.
Carbon Derivatives ---- Credit Default Swaps
Speculative derivatives, especially credit default swaps or "CDS," are a primary cause of the economic crisis.
So for over a year Naomi has been warning that banks are preparing to do with carbon what they've done before: design and market derivatives contracts that will help client companies hedge their price risk over the long term. They're also ready to sell carbon-related financial products to outside investors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD-lQ4TIdqA
Where are all the lawyers and funds to pay the fines when people get arrested is my question?
In 2006, when I asked a Greenpeac organizer would they help me out with a lawyer or fines after they urged people to risk arrest by blocking a road. They said "can't do".
I risked arrest by blocking the road with my body anyway after they all bailed but luckily I wasn't arrested.
I've witnessed many people committing CD over the last 20 years but the burden to pay fines and restitution always falls on the individaul. To boot, many times when they apply for a job teaching or working for the incapacitated their record of past CD arrest is used to disqualify them for the job.
Is Mrs Klein going to head up garnering the lawyers and resources for such mass civil disobedience?
If so then sign me up to educate, train people and risk being arrested.
If not I will not place my or urge other people to place their necks in a noose.
1999 Seattle participant and forest defender
Absolutely impossible for you to have done what you say,
and now contradict yourself completely.
For you go on and on about what a hero of a protestor you were,
even civil disobedience and blocking traffic, and then end by
saying your a gutless wonder who will never do it again.
Indeed. clearcut is an idiot
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
Past generations of Americans risked being permanently maimed or killed to defeat slavery and to organize labor. It's always a relatively small but very brave and sufficiently united minority of people who pay the highest price for progress. If enough Americans aren't willing to risk losing things like a teaching or disabilities care provider job protesting the misgovernment that has led to the multiple crises now tearing away at their country (and the world), then what does that say about the courage, integrity, intelligence and mental toughness of Americans? This passivity and lack of organization isn't ALL due to the tens of millions of over-medicated depressives on valium and xanex everywhere in the U.S. (although it does have something to do with it).
I used to protest Bush & Cheney in the street when far too many grown, educated people were absolutely terrified to do so. Many of them just have a materially insular, spoiled attitude of 'protests are icky and I might get beat up.' But more of them weren't as afraid of the Bush-Cheney Junta and police crack-downs as they were terrified that someone they knew might see them and think they were being unpatriotic. Afraid of put-downs from all the jingo-fied idiots who believed the Bush Party Line so desperately that if it wasn't true they didn't want to know and to hell with anyone who didn't think the same @#&#! thing. Better to put their heads down and not think or feel. It made me sick to my stomach to see people I once respected as friends wither like pre-adolescents pissing their pants when I would try to get them to come protest with me. The fear was everywhere like city-wide diarrhea. America has had many new shocks since then and was already deep in numbed denial by 2004. Its people still are behaving like Stockholm Syndrome victims of the Military/Petrol Industrial Complex to this day. They don't want to know and they want a politically correct patriarchal Big Brother to just make everything alright for THEM like 5 and 6 year olds who've had a bad fright from a hornet that nearly stung them or fell and skinned their knees running down the sidewalk. "Obama momma, come and make it better!!" WAHHHHH! But most of them couldn't care less what their fellow Americans being smashed under the bottom side of the capitalist boot are suffering until job loss or home foreclosure kicks them personally in the teeth.
This "clearcut-climate" poster says he or she protested in Seattle and was a forest defender. But he or she sounds more to me like a fed or a cop trying to make potential protesters fearful. And this person doesn't offer any solutions to his/her posed dilemma but suggests the historically unlikely idea of a writer and public speaker ponying up lawyers and money to pay for bail and fines for arrested protesters. They need to take some pages from history. Back in the day, union marchers and their families contributed to union funds to help pay for bail and fines. They knew they were stronger in numbers together than trying to stand alone in the streets against the company thugs and pigs. They pulled together as communities of workers.
The big problem now as I see it is that the U.S. is shorn of the multiplicity of social, civic and religious organizations that used to bind authentic neighborhood communities together. There is no longer any sense of solidarity among the American working classes at ANY level--from the middle of the middle-class to the increasingly large and permanent under-class. People used to know how to throw rent parties to help each other make the rent in hard times. They actually spoke with their neighbors on a regular basis and knew them. [It did help that most of the moms prior to the 1960s Women's Lib movement stayed at home and personally cared for the children and got to know each other and each other's kids as they grew up.] They understood the original purpose of unions. They knew who their real class enemies were and didn't sneeringly condescend toward other working-class people for not wearing the most popular and expensive corporate logo on their blue jeans or basketball shoes. Malcolm X might say there are too many house niggers even among white America now. Rich white America has made now of class what it originally made of race--with people only one or two degrees apart in income and education typically relating in an idiotic fashion where the minutely wealthier "better educated" person looks down on his "inferior" neighbor with either derision or indifference. THIS utter lack of solidarity and any sense of the common good is what has destroyed the social fabric of post-1980 America.
A World Climate Plebiscite.
The sovereign question is, Is unified action on Climate Change the world's most pressing need?
A yes vote will take the decisions away from governments and give it to someone who can act sensibly for all. A no vote will give it back to the governments.
The recent initiatives and actions within the UN have shown leadership.
If the vote is yes the UN must have sovereign power on the matter, and obviously not through the Security Council or any of the bodies tilted towards maintenance of big power (USA) advantage. Peer review is the best method we have and the UN has shown it respects this.
Even with the normal academic strictures the process will be interesting to say the least but it is our best shot. The 'no' alternative is also interesting, but as in the Chinese curse. We do not allow an untrained person to drive our taxi or fly our plane so why should we have untrained politicians flying our planet. Such is superstition at its worst.
Politicians are us and only by politicians being in control
may we ever have freedom and equal control.
For notwithstanding our self-absorbed majority having so far
destroyed it for all of us, only they have the power to save us.
say what?
What alot of fancy talk. What alot of BS. Nothing personal of course.
This may seem ludicrous and oversimplified. I say close up the Big Banks and Big Corporations- Bring back the Mom & Pops (maybe just a little more modern of course) and regulate their business. Regulate Oil companies to control their profits or distribute their profits to the American people. Ban all junk food-it's been proven that when white flour, sugar and salt hit the stores the rates of disease went sky high. Family gardens should be encouraged if not required. This would drastically reduce most major illness, hence reduce the huge healthcare problem.
Over-population is not the issue-the problem is greedy banks and corporations made up of greedy individuals that always want more and more of the pie. The work is "sacrifice"- everybody blames the other guy but we don't look at how wasteful we, each one of us is. Talk is cheap but if every single one of us puts our money where our mouth is and commits to giving up a little of our creature comforts and cutting back on over-processed food we would be healthier and wealthier. If you think this is ridiculous, how ridiculous do you think it sounds when you suggest a form of genocide
WHO HAS THE WEALTH?
matti says: "The upper TENTH has almost all the wealth = 2/3rds and rising. The other 90% have the rest”
No, we absolutely do not have 33% of the wealth making us 33% of the problem.
For matti is of the intelligent upper half of society and his upper
class has all the wealth making his class 100% of the problem.
This gal and the others in this forum are right, but many will choose not to get arrested. Each person must decide what form of protest is right for that person. Even Martin Luther King Jr said that in reference to the protests against the Vietnam War. It's all too easy to be too absolutist about these kinds of things. Dr King was right.
Let each person make that choice is the only way to go on this. We should still back those who choose a form different from ours.
The most important thing is to challenge the multi national companies and their stooges for control the current political and economic agenda. If their side wins we all lose.
AD
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
I disagree. The ones who are able to get out in the streets are more needed in large numbers than ever. Only massive, obvious public resistance to the corporate criminal interests ruining this country and this planet will work because existential fear on their part is the only thing from which they will retreat. The nation and the planet no longer have decades to piss away waiting for glacial incremental change around issues for whom the time to implement meaningful solutions is almost up.
I was in the bank early yesterday with a line of working-class people and on the bank's TV monitors was cell phone footage on CNN of the student riots in Tehran. Those kids were shouting en masse and rocking this large ironwork fence back and forth. Their noise and energy caught everyone's attention who was standing in the line. One middle-aged man remarked, "You know that government's not going to last long there."
If only we could field protests at one event in terms of 2 to 3 million people at a time here in the U.S. we could shove the robber barons' agenda right back down their throats. All enough of the vigorous portion of We the People lack is honest information about who our real enemies are and solidarity.
This gal and the others in this forum are right, but many will choose not to get arrested. Each person must decide what form of protest is right for that person. Even Martin Luther King Jr said that in reference to the protests against the Vietnam War. It's all too easy to be too absolutist about these kinds of things. Dr King was right.
Let each person make that choice is the only way to go on this. We should still back those who choose a form different from ours.
The most important thing is to challenge the multi national companies and their stooges for control the current political and economic agenda. If their side wins we all lose.
AD
ELECTIONS ---- INTELLIGENCE CONTEST
Most politicians are paid actors hired by the rich,
and their all in the top 10% of intelligence.
For elections are actually intelligence contests
as our self-absorbed majority always vote for the
one they feel is the most intelligent.
And you can always tell who the rich have scheduled
to win, the one they tell to act the most intelligent.
George W. Bush, pah-leeze.
Did they tell W to act smart or spell it out with his bananas?
The question is: how to swerve before reaching the precipice?
BTW, "The Shock Doctrine" was a masterwork IMHO, and topped the best-seller lists for quite a while.
n.b. My real name IS newlight.