Arctic ‘Doomsday Vault’ Filled With World’s Seeds Comes to Life
AN Arctic “doomsday vault” filled with samples of the world’s most important seeds will be inaugurated in Norway today.
The vault aims to provide humankind with a Noah’s Ark of food in the event of a global catastrophe.
European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and Nobel Peace Prize winning environmentalist Wangari Matai will be among the personalities present at the inauguration of the vault, which has been carved into the permafrost of a remote Arctic mountain, just 1000km from the North Pole.
The vault, made up of three spacious cold chambers each measuring 27m by 10m, creates a long trident-shaped tunnel bored into the sandstone and limestone.
It has the capacity to hold up to 4.5 million batches of seeds from all known varieties of the planet’s main food crops, making it possible to re-establish plants if they disappear from their natural environment or are obliterated by major disasters.
“The facility is built to hold twice as many varieties of agricultural crops as we think exist,” explained Cary Fowler, executive director of the Global Crop Diversity Trust and project mastermind.
“It will not be filled up in my lifetime, nor in my grandchildren’s lifetime,” he predicted.
Norway has assumed the €6 million ($9.6m) charge for building the vault in its Arctic archipelago of Svalbard, where ironically no crops grow.
Secured behind an airlock door, the three airtight chambers have the capacity to house duplicates of samples from all the world’s more than 1400 existing seed banks.
Many of the more vulnerable seed banks have begun contributing to the “doomsday vault” collection, but some of the world’s biodiversity has already disappeared, with gene vaults in both Iraq and Afghanistan destroyed by war and a seed bank in the Philippines annihilated by a typhoon.
By the time of the inauguration, the Svalbard Global Seed Vault should hold some 250,000 samples, which will remain the property of their countries of origin.
Pakistan and Kenya, both undergoing periods of serious unrest, have sent seed collections, while samples sent from Colombia have been closely scrutinised by police to avoid the project becoming a vehicle for drug trafficking.
“I’ve been working in this field for 30 years and I thought I knew at least all the crops,” Mr Fowler said.
After receiving a list of all the different seeds in the vault, however, “I must admit there are a number of crops I’ve never heard of before”, he said.
That’s a spectacular amount of diversity for Svalbard, where no trees can grow due to the permafrost and where the mercury plummets to an average 14C below zero in winter.
The Norwegian archipelago, which is home to some 2300 people, was selected not despite but because of its inhospitable climate, as well as its remote location far from civil strife.
The seeds of wheat, maize, oats and other crops will be stored at a constant temperature of minus 18C Celsius, and even if the freezer system fails the permafrost will ensure that temperatures never rise above 3.5C below freezing.
“Svalbard really met all the criteria,” Mr Fowler said.
Protected by high walls of fortified concrete, an armoured door, a sensor alarm and the native polar bears that roam the region, the “doomsday vault” has been built 130m above current sea level - high enough that it would not flood if the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets melt entirely due to global warming.
The concrete cocoon has also been built to withstand nuclear missile attacks or a plunging plane, something that could come in handy in light of the 6.4-scale tremor - the biggest earthquake in Norway’s history - registered near the archipelago on Thursday.
© 2008 Agence France-Presse
Not dug into permafrost and worth disseminating
http://www.seedsavers.org/products.asp?dept=10
More information on this project available at
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529
Who and why is usually worth exploring.
Funny how they do not mention the funding by the Gates, Rockefeller Foundation, and Monsanto, creator of many GM seeds that are contaminating the planet and making the vault necessary for when the GM seeds go into termination mode and do not grow anymore food.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529
After 80% of us die from starvation, the seeds in this vault will come in handy to feed those Left Behind. Mission acccomplised, you neo malthusian SOB’s.
Yay doomsday preparation already
Just came to mind … how/where are they storing the bees?
They’ll clone bees.
KEM PATRICK
thanks for my once a day laugh, i like your sardonic brutally honest voice.
Ok folks, if you haven’t already, time to take a hint from the bigboys and start your preparations now.
Wouldn’t you like to know what else they got stored in those huge underground cities…
Plant a garden, save your seeds.There is room in every yard, rooftop and patio. Growing your own food is what helps to make us human and real. Real is not sitting in front of a TV, or a computer…:)
I appeciate the thought of this capsule; however between gm, all the space junk and the general state of the planet coupled with the prospect of some idiot nation (most likely ours) nuking someone else I question the futility of it all.
Grow your own food. The truth about that is painful. Sorry Iowa no laughs here. We have a one acre garden and for six years we grew enough vegetables to supply 20 people. We cannded 104 quarts of tomatoes and the same ammount of a variety of beans, we stored carrots, squash, pumpkin and peppers of six varieties, onions. turnips, sweet potatoes and garlic. We canned zuccini pickels, relish and salsa, peaches and apricots.
It wasn’t free, it costs quite a bit to have and maintain a garden, but the food was wonderful. Did we have to purchase any food? You bet, flour, oil, peanut butter, yeast, we don’t favor sourdough bread. We bought lots of food stuffs, but overall we saved quite a bit by having the garden and our neighbors loved us.
Then this past year it all ended. ___ No bees, ___ not any of the over 20,000 specie of pollinating bees that live on this planet. Very few birds, and or butterflies showed up and hardly any other types of inscects or grasshoppers. We had beautiful plants, perfect weather, but very little fruit. We canned six quarts of tomatoes and five of zucchini pickels. It was a disaster.
So it’s easy to say, grow your own and sometimes it works out, ___ sometimes it don’t. Now if you live in a city, or an apartment, it’s even more difficult. Even though it’s true, that if you put seeds on a gravel driveway and water it, plants will grow. The trick is, can you grow enough to feed a family for a year?
Seed banks in Iraq and Afghanistan?
interesting that in the past Monsanto/Semanis/ADM/seed companies discontinued many open pollinated strains that were passed down for thousands of years and kept only a few “desirable” strains to make hybrids with.
The qualities they kept to breed- tough skins, hard etc. for shipping.
What qualities they gave up- great taste, tenderness, thin skins, disease and bug resistance.
Something like 70% of strains are now extinct because we trusted them with keeping diversity alive.
Imagine that, seeds strains selected for different traits, passed down in families etc. for thousands of years are now keeping company with the dinosaurs.
KEM, I don’t think veg gardening is expensive. I spend from 30 to 100 bucks on seeds a yr and much of those seeds can be frozen to use over the next 15-20 years. I have never lost more than 15% of my crops from disease or pests. Bees are not the only bugs that pollinate, some things just need the flowers shaken or are wind pollinated.
KEM PACTRICK or whomever else may be interested … you should have had more tomato’s than six quarts - without bees.
An old secret used even when bees were plenteous … go out to your garden when the blooms are bursting with yellow color calling to the nonexistent bees … with a FLY SWATTER … and swat your plants all over the place - DON’T BREAK THEM OR BRUISE THE BRANCHES - but; give them solid whacks with the fly killer part of the swatter - send the pollen in the air without breaking off the flowers … do this once or twice a day until you see the results - even without the bees … as far as my squashes …
I take a paint brush and really scrub a male flower … then simply paint up the female flowers and whoaaallah … squash most every time - otherwise … I eat the flowers dipped in batter and deep fried - their choice, just a little extra work is all … us a soft soft, soft brush so you don’t damage anything and create mutated squashes …
Hope this gave insight and help - plant radish, beets, carrots and/or etc. without worry - as they don’t need pollinating … unless you want seed - then do the fly swatter trick a little more easy on them … works well.
Problem is … when people are starving and see your plush garden … I don’t know of any spray to keep them out … best to enclose it and keep it hidden as best as possible …
Hope this gives hope;
Aintmyfault
This is my first post on Commondreams ,though I have been a reader for about the last 3 years, long before we had a comment section. So, the reason for me to touch the key board and post. For so long I read of gripes about Monsanto et all. But how many of those people who gripe do something physical about it? I’m not talking here of protest on the streets, but protest in the back yard. My protest is, growing my own veggies and fruit. I, my wife and I. We make our own beer, soap, fruit juice, cook our own food, are label readers in the shop, ie: only buy foods we recognise, organic if we can. How many of our posters do that, not many I expect. I suppose this will cause some comment. For us this is grass roots objection, and if enough people do?…… Reminds me of a slogan in my youth, I’m 57, Ok a baby boomer. ‘What if they had a war and nobody came’. Monsanto, we can bankrupt them tomorrow, if as the collective body, we wish. But do we wish?. I think not. Sad commentary, but I think true. Do not think I do not enjoy some of the posts, something to ponder with some and funny with others.
Right, following these comments I’m going out to buy all the baked beans in my city. That’s the answer I reckon, get with the beans!
Seeds mightn’t grow if the sun is hidden by a nuclear cloud or by dust blowing off the soon-to-be deserts.
I always wanted to be full of beans! Cheers.
www.dangerouscreation.com
Hm. Norway just recorded its strongest (6.2) earthquake. In Svalbard.
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2269271.ece
caldoche and whomever else may be interested;
See - problem with the earth now - is most soil is depleted from any nutrients - that which was there was killed off by chemical fertilizers and pesticides … so - Monsanto started genetically altering the seeds; for example -
They would cross rat genes with that of the tomato, or putting genes from jelly fish with potato genes and so forth. Because on commercial grounds, the soil was dying off from not letting the land rest every 7th year (biblical teaching that few follow any more). Instead the farmers were told to just fertilize … fertilize … fertilize with chemicals and the plants would grow big and strong … then it stopped working so well - that is when roundup and Monsanto really kicked in.
The plants they produce are an abomination and warned by our own Creator - to never mix the seed … it wasn’t saying to not plant carrots with beets or beets with radish and tomato plants too … it was saying do not pervert the seed - keep seed with it’s KIND … like the animals with their kind … put cattle, goats and sheep with some horses together … they don’t mix the seed - each remains with it’s kind - but; we are soon to see other curses than what Monsanto could have ever dreamed possible … for example,
If pollen from a Monsanto Monster blows 100 miles across your state and crosses with your garden plants - and it is found out … Monsanto can confiscate YOUR WHOLE GARDEN and then sue you for infringements … losing your home, car and whatever else they want to use the court as a criminal instrument to steal your stuff - just because THEY sold seed to someone that contaminated YOUR GARDEN … I know this sounds tough - but; I assure you - it is real. Farmers have had foreclosures come about from Monsanto contamination to their fields, and the courts upheld the wealthy guy and stripped the lonely farmer - after all - the farmer should have taken some kind of precautions from winds, pollinations, insects and/or etc. to keep Monsanto’s Monsters out of his property, eh?
After all - you probably could not find one non-mutated plant on Monsanto property … all are perversions that will swallow up all hope soon enough - and after they come out with the full truth of their monsters - that they cannot even be digested properly in our bodies - or usable if digested … as our bodies do not recognize them. Simply put - it is like eating a bowl of pus when you eat genetically altered foods … sure, you can add food color and flavoring to the pus - but; your body cannot use it and will eventually break down and die; but,
Great word is … you won’t know why before you die … why? Simply put - the doctors will see the great money and beauty behind repeat customers from eating this crappola … and when they realize the truth - you honestly think they will simply tell the public of the dangers of it … shoot no - they will eat healthy as can be so they can live long enough to collect as much from the dead and dying as they can - withholding the truth for a hundred years if necessary as a trade secret … much like the lie about eating salt will kill you … sure - table salt will do that - but; not koshering salt, pickling salt or sea salt, as these salts don’t have the chemicals added that table salt has … THAT KEEPS IT FROM BEING DIGESTIBLE … only used for flavor and nothing else except clogging organs - but;
Can you keep a salt water fish alive for long in a fresh water aquarium? How long do you think humans can live without salt - when over 70% of their bodies IS SALT WATER … sure - drink lots of water … but; don’t’ forget - SALT WILL KILL YA … take this pill and this pill and come back again … don’t worry - if you get hospitalized - ONE OF OUR STANDARD PROCEDURES TO KEEP YOU ALIVE … WE WILL GIVE YOU A S A L I N E (SALT) DRIP … that will perk you up - after all - it is a medicine we can perscribe …, eh?? wink wink.
This world is messed up and with dead land that will only grow Monsanto seeds … who can boycott and save their lands?
Peaceful dreams;
Aintmyfault
> “we trusted them with keeping diversity alive.”
When did Monsanto get this obligation to preserve seed lines?
And now that they are helping to do just that, people are really mad.
I checked the globalresearch site. For some reason the Illumanti, Masons and Zionists were not mentioned. Ominous omissions considering Margaret Sanger was included. She’s cited as wanting to exterminate Negros. She must have really hated white people too, since Planned Parenthood probably affects more whites then blacks.
The seed vault is cheap insurance. Obviously if the earth falls into the sun, it won’t be much good but then it isn’t meant to make earth survivable no matter what.
No bees is a problem but there are other pollinators. I’ve heard some people determined to grow a garden in a city use paintbrushes. Easier on the plants then a flyswatter, harder on the person pollinating. Kinda hard to feed masses that way but where there is a will, a way will be found. Corn, wheat, rice don’t need bees.
Thoughts have power. Thoughts are beginning to increase in power. Be sure to think good thoughts. It’s important.
PATIC
i agree totally. in the event of a global catastrophe how will (and if) any survivors know where to find this vault? will there be a big flashing sign in the sky saying ‘THE SEEDS ARE HERE’ ->
KEM PATRICK
‘the trick is can you feed a family for a year?’ no, the trick is, not flattening the plants as you park your SUV on the driveway………
I believe that Use of a camel’s hair artist’s brush is one more answer to pollenating—- also a tiny burst of compressed air works— of course not, though for plants that have male and female blossoms—-
Happy gardening season to all—
i have used the paint brush technique –years ago when i planted an apple tree that would pollinate. i used a small artists size paint brush on a few flowers. that seemed to be all that was needed to get the tree in synch with its nature. i have never had to do that again. strange!
i also think that people need to begin a stampede on congress to limit the scope of monsanto and kind from seizing property after being contaminated by monsanto seed. that is the height of hubris and totalitarian corporatism.
i received an essay from someone from texas who was at a demonstration against the government planned super-highway that will steal land from ranchers and other folk. the powers that be ended their meeting, which was the focus of the demonstration, and left jeering and mocking the demonstrators. this writer was so incensed at the disrespect he called for the people arming themselves to cause a real threat to these fascists–because they respond to nothing else! he wasnt calling for armed struggle–just calling for stronger action from people in an organized and powerful way. but his reflection on the american revolution or the french revolution was a clear raising the issue of what might be necessary to stop this corporate fascism that controls this country and the world.
who will be here to open the vault?
I learned how to get a bumper crop of tomatoes from deer. I had one plant with quite a few blossoms on it, when one morning just before dawn I heard something outside my bedroom window. I looked out and saw a doe with her fawn, having breakfast - my tomato plant. She took it down several inches. Every few mornings she’d be back for more.
That tomato plant began to expand, and turned into a bush, about three feet long. I only got three ripe tomatoes from it before an early WA frost hit, but I filled several boxes of perfect sized green tomatoes wrapped in newspaper that I kept stored in the garage. A few at a time in the window to ripen, and I had fresh tomatoes all winter.
Most of you posters were not around when open-pollinated corn was raised and did not see the miracle of hybridization take place. There are always protests when any new developement comes along, but we have survived all of them.
There is nothing wrong with anyone living or eating as they wish, but it would take something like a nuclear war to take our civilization back to the basic existence that we had before the scientific developements came along.
It may well be that some ideas such as corn grain made into ethanol are not going to prove out, but in time those things sort themselves out. There have been doomsday predictions about many new ideas and developements and none have proved correct yet.
Many of the problems that people are suffering from are self imposed from their own choices of life styles, except in cases of severe pollution of water and air, which is why we need to support strong regulatory agency`s to protect the environment.
i agree with the general, grow your own approach - and also start your own seed bank, and your own hive. most of the problems with bees are the commercial ones, which are all the same and highly prone to disease. there are wild strains which are much tougher and also if you get to a little altitude in your local region, you get out of the common traffic area of the commercail bees. a 500 ft or so will segregate wild strains from the poisened ones lower in valleys. this from my neighbor beekeeper who i was talking with yesterday -and picked up a gallon or raw honey- he is doubling his hive boxes to about 500.
Gee…what do these fine-people Know that I ‘don’t?
What I WOULD like to know is the combination to that thing — or guaranteed-Access BEFORE half the planet ’starves’ (and only the ‘right people’ get our/joint Heritage back-again).
Monsanto/Gates/Buffet/Gore…are you ‘listening’? “Inquiring mind’s want to Know?” What’s the combo?
http://home.howstuffworks.com/safecracking1.htm
I’d also like to know why this thing is “bomb-proof” — who in hell would want to ‘bomb-it’? [Surely, no overly-tall Arab ‘databaser’ attached to a dialysis-machine…? He probably still likes to ‘eat’!]
Why so ’secure’? Secured from Whom, exactly?
[Hungry-people, who are Poor and Distant?]
“i received an essay from someone from texas who was at a demonstration against the government planned super-highway that will steal land from ranchers and other folk. the powers that be ended their meeting, which was the focus of the demonstration, and left jeering and mocking the demonstrators. this writer was so incensed at the disrespect he called for the people arming themselves to cause a real threat to these fascists–because they respond to nothing else! he wasnt calling for armed struggle–just calling for stronger action from people in an organized and powerful way. but his reflection on the american revolution or the french revolution was a clear raising the issue of what might be necessary to stop this corporate fascism that controls this country and the world.”
No ‘land theft’ involved — they are taking it Legally (the same-way Texans took land from the Mexicans, and on more than one-occasion!). What that writer Proposes is ‘terrorism’ — plain-and-simple, and he soon will wear-orange (as will you, if you keep repeating nonsense about ‘revolution’).
The Revolutions are all over-with, kiddo.
Obey ALL ‘Laws’…always.
[Or I’ll report-you Myself. I, for one, enjoy this Forum, which will be ‘closed-down’ and a thing-of-the-Past if much more crap like-Above appears in it.]
And, learn to Capitalize…will ya? [Those Corporations who feed-you surely-have…!]
>>learn to Capitalize…will ya?
what, are you the grammar police now too??
but regrading stealing land, they’re doing it here in oregon too, trying to push through three different lng (liquid nat’l gas) pipelines right through the middle of the state, and the real insult is so thay can pipe it to california! taking ‘emminant domain’ right through prime farm land, forest land, natural winderness and the rest. they can hole as many ‘public meetings’ as they like, when it comes to it, there’ll be some monkey wrenching, guaranteed.
“learn to Capitalize…will ya?”
What have we here, an Attila the Hen grammar checker?
yeah and hes gonna get ya.
where did they mention saving the kali-herb, peyote, etc? or does the future simply proceed without such things…
“>>learn to Capitalize…will ya?
what, are you the grammar police now too??”
‘Capitalize’ has more than one-meaning (as in double-entendre — or are you currently the Humor Police in CD?).
And I am state-certified as ‘grammar-police’ on a college/secondary-level — but haven’t the time/inclination to ‘correst-all-papers’ in here.
And KEM, you (of all here) should want this Forum to ‘continue to Serve’ all&sundry, do you not? You practically ‘reside here’.
And I ain’t no Hen, D&G — I know this because I still have my Beak (which is more than can be said for any under the ‘tender’-care of our fine/FDA-supervised Food Industry).
BTW, all that crap in OR is ‘legal’, also…
All ALL of this crap is ‘legal’, also — as is MeAlsoToo. Always (unlike many-here who are ‘rash’ and ‘outspoken’, and may someday have Cause to regret-it?).
Common-sense should be as Common as Dreams…IMHO.
[I guess I’m ‘dreaming’, too…huh?]
“And I am state-certified as ‘grammar-police’ on a college/secondary-level — but haven’t the time/inclination to ‘correst-all-papers’ in here.”
Dumbass, that ‘And’ should be followed by a Comma, and “correct” is correctly-schpeled ‘correct’…
“legal” or not, the people do not want it, and this is still a democracy, maybe?? so they can try pushing it through if they want, but we’re gonna drive up the construction costs to the point they give up
“…and even if the freezer system fails the permafrost will ensure that temperatures never rise above 3.5C below freezing.”
Umm, are they expecting a global crisis that will kill off seedstock but leave the PERMAFROST INTACT!?
That sounds like a different “doomsday” than the one I’ve been seeing on my TV.
This is where the “conspiracy theorists” and the “progressive reformers” split right?
-Does this seed vault plan seemingly fail to take into account the basic “global-warming-arctic-melt-off” scenario because:
A)Those involved have a different idea of what the “future” will “bring us”.
or
B) Those involved are greedy, but foolish. The commmon “evil but incompetent” idea.
or
C) Fill in the Blank wild card answer.
Personally, might favorite possibility is C) It’s just those crazy Northern Dvergar doing what Dvergar do.
That “when in doubt, dig!” instinct is hard to suppress, I imagine.
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I think stories like this one, and projects like this seed vault, can be seen as either tantalizing glimpses into “what is REALLY going on”, or as just more random, mad, scrambling as people in Power start to listen to the scientists and other Smart People in their employ.
Does it really matter which is true in the end?
If there really are groups as intelligent and ruthless, as powerful and resourceful as the different “conspiracy scenarios” speculate, then what hope would normal people have to stop them? Or more to the point, what good -what weapon to smite our enemies- do we gain by postulating so many shadowy “links” between the inumerable “inconsitent” facts and stories we might see?
While the idea that there are NOT these secret cabals -just politicians, businesspeople, and bureaucrats, running things- and that they are more slow on the uptake than cunningly deceptive, might make us feel a little less paranoid, how does it really help us? Doesn’t that mean we stand a good chance of expending a whole-helluva-lot of effort just to get ahold of the reins of power, only to find that the old driver has jumped off because the horsecart is about to go over a cliff?
What do we do? Jump off too? That looks painful. Shoot the horses? Sure they’ve gone mad and they’re powering this whole “doomsday scenario”, but off ‘em? Just after we FINALLY got to be in charge? No way. Maybe if we just sort of Jump, just before the cart slams into the canyon floor…?
I think many of the posts here are right, only choice is to start getting self-sufficient, at the personal, family, and community level.
Grow (or hunt? *ducks*) your own food, as much of it as you can.
It’ll give you perspective on the realities of your situation, both the difficulties -think KEM PATRICK’s bees- you face, and the adaptations you can make to succeed -think aintmyfault’s swatter.
The Thaw is breaking and the Spring will soon be here, I suggest we all take this story -and the Lunar Eclipse- as a Sign. Planting Time is here, this year, for a change maybe, actually plant some food during Planting Time.
It may be the most important thing you “YES WE CAN!” do.
Maybe even more important that following every nuance of the TV “presidential race” like a spectator in your own life (*ducks again and runs away saying “nya nya, missed me*).
-matti
P.S. Apologies, I’m obviously feeling very “Quote-y” today.
““legal” or not, the people do not want it, and this is still a democracy, maybe??”
And, ‘maybe not’? [What country were YOU raised-in? Click my name…]
Also, they enjoy ‘driving up costs’ so they can’t do construction (infrastructure)…or haven’t you noticed?
“Umm, are they expecting a global crisis that will kill off seedstock but leave the PERMAFROST INTACT!?”
Of course they are (’they’ should know, there is no chance anyone will ‘attack seed-stock’, and there is no ‘global-warming’ that is not Deliberate and Controlled).
And, no “Doomsday” is expected, anticipated or allowable — just mass-starvation due to ‘no one’s bad intentions’. Soon.
“This is where the “conspiracy theorists” and the “progressive reformers” split right?”
No…it’s where they Join. [At the hip, in fact — but for seemingly contradictory-rationales — if you believe either]
And Yes, they know what the Future will bring (they made it, just like the Past and the Present — and all ‘Laws’ — and not a single/much-heralded Hybrid-seed will ever find it’s way into this ‘Vault’ — or I’ll eat-it [ewwww!]). The Vault will have only good/healthy/Heritage seed-stock — which the ‘right-people’ will someday want safely-back for their grandchildren (why else would they spend so-much?).
Well, well, well, seems CD loves to or enjoys deleting perfectly valid, pertinent posts providing links to important resource articles and by good resource authors, for I posted links to F. William Engdahl’s article on or based on his book, ‘Seeds of Destruction: …’, and a three-part review of the book by Stephen Lendman, all links at www.globalresearch.ca . And looking for the 3 review articles by Lendman by going to his author index at GR isn’t straightforward for finding these articles, for the links in that index page does not provide helpful titles for all three of the articles.
Or maybe CD deleted, censored the post because of the link to The Global Research News Hour programme for which the link is at Republic Broadcasting Network, which, given the “left’s” crusade against the “right” in the USA, a blind, prejudiced crusade treating all ‘conservatives’ as if bad, fascist, etc., I can understand such motive for deleting a post to a website like RBN. However between understanding such motives and them being acceptable in terms of whether or not they are really fair, this is a whole other matter; and CD enjoys the [unfair], i.e., unjustly biased, game, if the RNB link is what caused CD to delete the post.
If not that, then it had to be the GR links, and it’s damn downright sick to delete posts for such links. One of the links was posted by two other people in this page, only they applied the unfortunate habit of not providing the title, author, and date information, which can be very useful for those of us who make use of this info. So I added that info., and the links for the three-part review articles by Lendman.
I listened to the live broadcast of that programme on RBN and, or but hosted by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky and Stephen Lendman, with the guest for the first hour being F. William Engdahl and on the topic of his book; and it was a great two hours. The second was about the situation in Palestine.
It’s not RBN providing the programme; it only provides a means, service for the programme to be aired, via satellite radio, but also online.
Anyway, GR posts links to short articles serving as notices of the next programme to be aired and a day, or two, or more in advance, so people can find these links in the GR homepage. But I think there’s an archive being kept at RBN too.
If interested, and everyone should be in that GR news hour (two hours) programme, then check at the GR site, or at RBN and specifically for this evidently great news and censorship-countering programme. Today’s programme should be archived at RBN, I believe.
Do not be afraid of RBN because of its name and some of the content it provides, for surely some will be a “turn-off” for narrow-minded, blinded “lefties”. Today’s the first time I’ve made use of the site, so I started with the homepage and got to see a little of what sort of content there is at this site; and I think some, if not many, “lefties”, so-called “liberals”, will immediately be against the site altogether, ignoring that fact that it may very well also provide content these “liberals” would be interested in, if only they gave the site a fair chance and therefore took some time to check it further than only for a second or two.
The GR News Hour can be found by finding the url for the RBN site and then going to the Programmes (something like that or with that in the link name anyway) near the very top of the homepage, going to this programmes page; or, if the link is available in the homepage, going to the Schedules page for Mondays.
The GR News Hour airs live every Monday, 12pm-2pm EST, while the hours for CST and PST (?) are stated in the Schedules page at RBN; Schedules or Programme Schedules. Should be easy to figure out.
Today was great; the whole two hours GR provided.
Well, well, well, a CORRECTION is definitely due, because my last post is off-base.
The reason for that is because I did a webpage search (via the Edit menu, or CTRL+F) on my last name, and it reported not finding any instances of my name, so I believed my post had been deleted. But going to my saved bookmark for the initial post, I was going to just copy the title (copy+paste) to use for bookmarking my very last post, and figured to try loading this page with the link for the initial post, first. And that worked.
I don’t know what the heck is wrong with this Firefox browser not finding text in a page when the text is actually present, but this is, now, the second or third time this has happened, and all recently enough. So I’ll make sure to first try loading saved bookmarks for my posts then next time I do a page search and don’t find my name when I posted in the page.
MY MISTAKE, so I apologise for my last post, and thank CD for not having deleted the initial post.
Damn web browser.
>>-and the Lunar Eclipse- as a Sign.
and, matti, remember too, it’s a Leap year
re contrustion costs. i think you’re missing my point relative lng in oregon. read edward abbey, monkey wrench gang.
Mike Corbeil, the technical problems are most likely caused not by Firefox but by Microsoft in its bid to control everyone’s computer, servers, the network, the content, computer software and hardware industrial production, market resource allocation and prices, competition, labor, and public policy. You can switch to Linux if you have too many problems with Microsoft.
I FEED THE BEES sugar water every morning. a half cup in a dish with a piece of cotton cloth. they get it all in half an hour. they know my yard and hunt my fruit trees when the sugar is gone. a little sugar helps them thru the times of little natural food. it keeps the hive population stronger. learn to grow plants from cuttings.
As Hemp is a valuable food crop,and medicinal herbs and cactus and fungi are essential to agriculture,i am sure they will be among the saved genomes.This is important work.I would love to have a job collecting valuable plant seeds for this bank.As far as pollinators go we can puchase Orchard bees and make wooden block homes for them in our gardens.Apiaries in my area have been fine as of late.In organic areas the bees are still thriving dispite mite and disease and bears etc. peas out
stevebonsai,
kudos on your effort to feed the bees, but sugar water is not very good for them. it’s like feeding your baby corn syrup, maybe it’ll keep them alive, but it has no nutrition and can make them prone to disease. better to feed real food, ie honey. problem with honey though, is what is in the stores is all pasturized, cooked, killed. maybe you have a local beekeeper you can find some raw honey is best, and good for you too!
oftentimes, orchard bees are already present, no need to buy them. youu can put a block with 1/4″ holes on the sunny side of a tree/house and they will naturally colonize it.
Maybe the US might take a hint and do the same, find and store just as many seeds. But while they are at saving seeds, maybe we should also build a modern Noah’s ark before all the animals, birds,and trees also are obliterated.
Where’s the seedbank we don’t know about? If one is being publicized there has to be at least one more that we don’t know about.