Quietly, while Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have been inspiring Democrats everywhere with their rolling bitchfest, congressional superduo Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have completed one of the most awesome political collapses since Neville Chamberlain. At long last, the Democratic leaders of Congress have publicly surrendered on the Iraq War, just one year after being swept into power with a firm mandate to end it.Solidifying his reputation as one of the biggest pussies in U.S. political history, Reid explained his decision to refocus his party's energies on topics other than ending the war by saying he just couldn't fit Iraq into his busy schedule. "We have the presidential election," Reid said recently. "Our time is really squeezed."
There was much public shedding of tears among the Democratic leadership, as Reid, Pelosi and other congressional heavyweights expressed deep sadness that their valiant charge up the hill of change had been thwarted by circumstances beyond their control - that, as much as they would love to continue trying to end the catastrophic Iraq deal, they would now have to wait until, oh, 2009 to try again. "We'll have a new president," said Pelosi. "And I do think at that time we'll take a fresh look at it."
Pelosi seemed especially broken up about having to surrender on Iraq, sounding like an NFL coach in a postgame presser, trying with a straight face to explain why he punted on first-and-goal. "We just didn't have any plays we liked down there," said the coach of the 0-15 Dems. "Sometimes you just have to play the field-position game...."
In reality, though, Pelosi and the Democrats were actually engaged in some serious point-shaving. Working behind the scenes, the Democrats have systematically taken over the anti-war movement, packing the nation's leading group with party consultants more interested in attacking the GOP than ending the war. "Our focus is on the Republicans," one Democratic apparatchik in charge of the anti-war coalition declared. "How can we juice up attacks on them?"
The story of how the Democrats finally betrayed the voters who handed them both houses of Congress a year ago is a depressing preview of what's to come if they win the White House. And if we don't pay attention to this sorry tale now, while there's still time to change our minds about whom to nominate, we might be stuck with this same bunch of spineless creeps for four more years. With no one but ourselves to blame.
The controversy over the Democratic "strategy" to end the war basically comes down to whom you believe. According to the Reid-Pelosi version of history, the Democrats tried hard to force President Bush's hand by repeatedly attempting to tie funding for the war to a scheduled withdrawal. Last spring they tried to get him to eat a timeline and failed to get the votes to override a presidential veto. Then they retreated and gave Bush his money, with the aim of trying again after the summer to convince a sufficient number of Republicans to cross the aisle in support of a timeline.
But in September, Gen. David Petraeus reported that Bush's "surge" in Iraq was working, giving Republicans who might otherwise have flipped sufficient cover to continue supporting the war. The Democrats had no choice, the legend goes, but to wait until 2009, in the hopes that things would be different under a Democratic president.
Democrats insist that the reason they can't cut off the money for the war, despite their majority in both houses, is purely political. "George Bush would be on TV every five minutes saying that the Democrats betrayed the troops," says Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Then he glumly adds another reason. "Also, it just wasn't going to happen."
Why it "just wasn't going to happen" is the controversy. In and around the halls of Congress, the notion that the Democrats made a sincere effort to end the war meets with, at best, derisive laughter. Though few congressional aides would think of saying so on the record, in private many dismiss their party's lame anti-war effort as an absurd dog-and-pony show, a calculated attempt to score political points without ever being serious about bringing the troops home.
"Yeah, the amount of expletives that flew in our office alone was unbelievable," says an aide to one staunchly anti-war House member. "It was all about the public show. Reid and Pelosi would say they were taking this tough stand against Bush, but if you actually looked at what they were sending to a vote, it was like Swiss cheese. Full of holes."
In the House, some seventy Democrats joined the Out of Iraq caucus and repeatedly butted heads with Reid and Pelosi, arguing passionately for tougher measures to end the war. The fight left some caucus members bitter about the party's failure. Rep. Barbara Lee of California was one of the first to submit an amendment to cut off funding unless it was tied to an immediate withdrawal. "I couldn't even get it through the Rules Committee in the spring," Lee says.
Rep. Lynn Woolsey, a fellow caucus member, says Democrats should have refused from the beginning to approve any funding that wasn't tied to a withdrawal. "If we'd been bold the minute we got control of the House - and that's why we got the majority, because the people of this country wanted us out of Iraq - if we'd been bold, even if we lost the votes, we would have gained our voice."
An honest attempt to end the war, say Democrats like Woolsey and Lee, would have involved forcing Bush to execute his veto and allowing the Republicans to filibuster all they wanted. Force a showdown, in other words, and use any means necessary to get the bloodshed ended.
"Can you imagine Tom DeLay and Denny Hastert taking no for an answer the way Reid and Pelosi did on Iraq?" asks the House aide in the expletive-filled office. "They'd find a way to get the votes. They'd get it done somehow."
But any suggestion that the Democrats had an obligation to fight this good fight infuriates the bund of hedging careerists in charge of the party. In fact, nothing sums up the current Democratic leadership better than its vitriolic criticisms of those recalcitrant party members who insist on interpreting their 2006 mandate as a command to actually end the war. Rep. David Obey, chair of the House Appropriations Committee and a key Pelosi-Reid ally, lambasted anti-war Democrats who "didn't want to get specks on those white robes of theirs." Obey even berated a soldier's mother who begged him to cut off funds for the war, accusing her and her friends of "smoking something illegal."
Rather than use the vast power they had to end the war, Democrats devoted their energy to making sure that "anti-war activism" became synonymous with "electing Democrats." Capitalizing on America's desire to end the war, they hijacked the anti-war movement itself, filling the ranks of peace groups with loyal party hacks. Anti-war organizations essentially became a political tool for the Democrats - one operated from inside the Beltway and devoted primarily to targeting Republicans.
This supposedly grass-roots "anti-war coalition" met regularly on K Street, the very capital of top-down Beltway politics. At the forefront of the groups are Thomas Matzzie and Brad Woodhouse of Americans Against the Escalation in Iraq, the leader of the anti-war lobby. Along with other K Street crusaders, the two have received iconic treatment from The Washington Post and The New York Times, both of which depicted the anti-war warriors as young idealist-progressives in shirtsleeves, riding a mirthful spirit into political combat - changing the world is fun!
But what exactly are these young idealists campaigning for? At its most recent meeting, the group eerily echoed the Reid-Pelosi "squeezed for time" mantra: Retreat from any attempt to end the war and focus on electing Democrats. "There was a lot of agreement that we can draw distinctions between anti-war Democrats and pro-war Republicans," a spokeswoman for Americans Against the Escalation in Iraq announced.
What the Post and the Times failed to note is that much of the anti-war group's leadership hails from a consulting firm called Hildebrand Tewes - whose partners, Steve Hildebrand and Paul Tewes, served as staffers for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC). In addition, these anti-war leaders continue to consult for many of the same U.S. senators whom they need to pressure in order to end the war. This is the kind of conflict of interest that would normally be an embarrassment in the activist community.
Worst of all is the case of Woodhouse, who came to Hildebrand Tewes after years of working as the chief mouthpiece for the DSCC, where he campaigned actively to re-elect Democratic senators who supported the Iraq War in the first place. Anyone bothering to look - and clearly the Post and the Times did not before penning their ardent bios of Woodhouse - would have found the youthful idealist bragging to newspapers before the Iraq invasion about the pro-war credentials of North Carolina candidate Erskine Bowles. "No one has been stronger in this race in supporting President Bush in the War on Terror and his efforts to effect a regime change in Iraq," boasted the future "anti-war" activist Woodhouse.
With guys like this in charge of the anti-war movement, much of what has passed for peace activism in the past year was little more than a thinly veiled scheme to use popular discontent over the war to unseat vulnerable Republicans up for re-election in 2008. David Sirota, a former congressional staffer whose new book, The Uprising, excoriates the Democrats for their failure to end the war, expresses disgust at the strategy of targeting only Republicans. "The whole idea is based on this insane fiction that there is no such thing as a pro-war Democrat," he says. "Their strategy allows Democrats to take credit for being against the war without doing anything to stop it. It's crazy."
Justin Raimondo, the uncompromising editorial director of Antiwar.com, regrets contributing twenty dollars to Americans Against the Escalation in Iraq. "Not only did they use it to target Republicans," he says, "they went after the ones who were on the fence about Iraq." The most notorious case involved Lincoln Chafee, a moderate from Rhode Island who lost his Senate seat in 2006. Since then, Chafee has taken shots at Democrats like Reid, Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer, all of whom campaigned against him despite having voted for the war themselves.
"Look, I understand partisan politics," says Chafee, who now concedes that voters were correct to punish him for his war vote. "I just find it amusing that those who helped get us into this mess now say we need to change the Senate - because we're in a mess."
The really tragic thing about the Democratic surrender on Iraq is that it's now all but guaranteed that the war will be off the table during the presidential campaign. Once again - it happened in 2002, 2004 and 2006 - the Democrats have essentially decided to rely on the voters to give them credit for being anti-war, despite the fact that, for all the noise they've made to the contrary, in the end they've done nothing but vote for war and cough up every dime they've been asked to give, every step of the way.
Even beyond the war, the Democrats have repeatedly gone limp-dick every time the Bush administration so much as raises its voice. Most recently, twelve Democrats crossed the aisle to grant immunity to phone companies who participated in Bush's notorious wiretapping program. Before that, Democrats caved in and confirmed Mike Mukasey as attorney general after he kept his middle finger extended and refused to condemn waterboarding as torture. Democrats fattened by Wall Street also got cold feet about upsetting the country's gazillionaires, refusing to close a tax loophole that rewarded hedge-fund managers with a tax rate less than half that paid by ordinary citizens.
But the war is where they showed their real mettle. Before the 2006 elections, Democrats told us we could expect more specifics on their war plans after Election Day. Nearly two years have passed since then, and now they are once again telling us to wait until after an election to see real action to stop the war. In the meantime, of course, we're to remember that they're the good guys, the Republicans are the real enemy, and, well, go Hillary! Semper fi! Yay, team!
How much of this bullshit are we going to take? How long are we supposed to give the Reids and Pelosis and Hillarys of the world credit for wanting, deep down in their moldy hearts, to do the right thing?
Look, fuck your hearts, OK? Just get it done. Because if you don't, sooner or later this con is going to run dry. It may not be in '08, but it'll be soon. Even Americans can't be fooled forever.
© 2008 Rollingstone.com
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Show AllThe reason the Democruds never made a serious effort to end the occupation of Iraq is because they (secretly) believe in it. They are as morally corrupt as the Republicans and gleefully lie to their so-called base just as the Republicans do.
The Democrats and the Republicans must be gotten rid of. If not, there is no hope for this nation. They'll take us down the road of every failed, bloody empire in the sad history of the human race.
Giovanna and welshTerrier2,
Excellent, excellent posts - thank you!
I wish I were as eloquent and consice as you both are, but know that I and many others feel as you do. We grok!
The discussion of whether to vote for Obama or Clinton or McCain or Pat Paulsen is immaterial to what is needed now. We need to realize that we are repeating history - history of empire in decline.
I think Thomas Jefferson had it right - that it's up to the people to cast off the yolk of oppression. However, I see your point too, Giovanna - the American people are asleep, dreaming the American Dream (isn't it interesting that is requires us to be asleep to see it?).
I hope and advocate for a "velvet" revolution (where is our Vaclav Havel?). Barring that, I think the other kind will be in order.
Therefore I carry around voter registration mail-in forms without recommendation. I have often gone into the voting booth and voted for nobody because I believe in the idea of voting. When I tell people about that option and they laugh and take a form.
I talk with so many people, who would not consider themselves leftists, who are critical of the government, distrust all politicians. They will say that politicians are all crooks and never do anything for me. Or that the rich control everything. Or even mention the corporations. Then they often say something like "But I have no right to say anything. I don't even vote".
The non-voting population is large, especially in poorer neighborhoods and among younger people. If people vote for Obama, for instance, and then are disappointed after the elections, they may be ready to move on to other forms of resistance. Sometimes people have to exhaust all apparent means of redress before they are ready to invent or try new ones.
Excellent post, dboylon (12:38). Exactly right, on very point.
It is very clear the Democrats play good cop and the Republicans play bad cop for our political, financial, and military industrial complex elites. They are the ones our system revolve around. They control our country. It is an oligarchy. Democrats come in to relieve the pressure every now and then. They will not change the system. They will just govern a bit more responsibly in order not to bring the house down. Until it is time for the next round of rape and pillage. What so many of these posters fail to recognize is that not only are the Democrats not a lesser evil...they are an essential tool to that evil. Our leaders want to put a softer face on our goverment to relieve growing world opposition to our rule. There will be a Democrat president after next election. They might even kill a few less foreigners than usual...it all depends on whether Obama and Clinton can sooth Europe's and Asia's concerns. They will promote a softer image and guantees to use the UN to share the spoils and bring the rest of the world's governments in on our Democracy building campaign. Make so mistake about it though as soon as the Dems have everybody singing Kumbayah again...the bombs will start flying. And there will probably be a bunch of dead Persians. I wish I was wrong...but I know I'm not. Bush hasn't done anything unique, execpt being a bit more openly biligerent about things. The democrats like to put a softer face on their bloodshed. They actually make far more effective killers than the Republicans do. Bush was just carrying the Carter Doctrine out to its natural conclusion. You Dem supporters here are either party plants or in need of seriously strong medication. IMHO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Doctrine
Lewonline - the idea that one should continue to vote for Democrats, just because there's some marginal "difference" between the parties -- this idea has been debunked a million times. As an argument, as a concept, & as a theory of politics, it's boring, harmful, and utterly invalid. It belongs on the slag heap of history.
Just to take 2 recent examples: electing Democrats to Congress in 2006 accomplished precisely nothing. Those Democrats were "different" from Tom DeLay & Bill Frist, but the end result was precisely the same. // And Bill Clinton was politically to the right of Nixon. His big-business-friendly policies were no different from what Daddy Bush would have done. Electing him made no difference. He didn't cut military spending; but he slashed welfare, passed NAFTA, further deregulated Wall St, and gave the store away with the Telecom Act of 1996. He also managed to bomb a few countries that hadn't harmed the US in any way, and killed a half-million Iraqi kids through sanctions.
As for your idea that an Obama movement could "more effectively address the fundamental issues of non-democratic government, militarism, empire," that's sadly wishful thinking. Obama isn't even willing to mention those specific subjects, as we all can plainly see. You're conflating the enthusiasm which has developed around him (which represents popular yearning) with what the candidate & his party would be willing to address. But those 2 things are not at all the same.
I completely understand what many of you are saying. I too agree that the fundamental issue is that we are not a democracy here in the United States. I still don't see the constructive alternative to voting Democrat in 2008: a third party? Which one? I think there's 4000 dead Americans and thousands more wounded and millions of dead wounded and displaced Iraqis who would have felt that Al Gore was making a difference (granted not a fundamental difference but still an important one in its way). I may be drinking the Kool Aid but I have more hope in Obama's winning with Yes We Can and actually helping many of our people feeling that yes they can, and then that building into a movement that can more effectively address the fundamental issues of non-democratic government, militarism, empire, economic exploitation, etc.
The last time that a few percent of the voters were too pure to vote for a Democrat, Nader siphoned off the Greens, Rove rigged the ballot boxes and we got George Bush. Like Al Gore he immediately began planning a war in Iraq and made pulling out of the Kyoto Treaty one of his first moves---give me a break!!! No difference? How far away from this planet do you have to soar to find no difference between Al Gore and G.W.B., between Democrat and Republican? W. was the only candidate in 2000 who would have fought the Iraq War as precipitously as he did; possibly the only candidate of '00 who would have fought in Iraq at all, ever. W. lied to us and said he was going to be even stingier on carbon dioxide than Al Gore. W. slept thru the CIA warnings about bin Laden; Gore would have at least convened a Clinton style round the clock task force and maybe disrupted 9/11. If you really want to help a 100 years war candidate defeat a bring them home before re-election candidate, well go ahead and be holier than all and vote third party again. Yes, the Democrats suck, and the war should have been much more courageously and vigorously opposed. But the Democrats are not the axis of evil; that my friends is the Republicans' address. P.S. Not to mention those identical health care plans that Dems and Repubs have....Oh, and those cloned ideas about campaign finance and stem cell research and paying teachers in public schools.....Have mercy!!!!
There is an online petition asking the DNC to choose the candidate with the most votes and delegates rather than take the chance on a secret backroom deal.
Please sign the petition and pass it on to your friends.
Petition http://www.petitiononline.com/Superdel/petition.html
Giovanna - what a truly wonderful post ... thanks so much!
Well, where to begin? The truth is, you've outed my little conundrum. You see, the thing is, I'm both in total agreement with your ONE CRITICAL ISSUE and my own THREE CRITICAL ISSUES. I can't begin to tell you how much I've wrestled with the paradox.
You so eloquently stated:
"Thus, for me, there is only ONE CRITICAL ISSUE: the US government has ceased to function as a Democratic Republic (if it ever actually did). All of the other "critical issues" are a direct result of this ONE."
Without making my point quite as explicitly, I tried to argue the very same point with:
"If we continue to endorse the pro-corporate policies of the Democratic Party, we have no say in either the party or our government. Job one, however important the Supreme Court might be, is to ensure that we have a seat at the table. We either have a voice or we don't."
What really is at issue, in both your post and mine, is who is empowered and who is not. If you view the ONE critical issue in relation to the THREE I cited, you quite correctly have established a cause and effect. Without power, we are left to the whims of those who poison our air and "hook us, like junkies, on their oil" and spend our treasure to profit themselves by making us buy their "defense" machines. In that sense, your one critical issue subsumes the three I raised. As a message to those who see the un-democratic abuses so clearly, you have crafted the essential message.
In truth, my post was designed to speak to two audiences. I tried to blend your ONE issue into my post but sought to also find a script to talk to "liberal" Democrats. I have found it a somewhat bankrupt pursuit to speak to Clinton and Obama supporters about the corporate state. I have found that campaigning against the loss of democracy and representative governance is received with blank stares. I have found that railing against the ravages of capitalism does little more than go around in endless circles.
And so, in addition to writing about our "loss of voice", I find it essential to make some very tangible arguments (i.e. my three critical issues) to those who are not yet aware. They speak to me of Hillary's health plan and I tell them we are spending more than a TRILLION dollars a year on "defense" and that all things domestic become impossible because of it. They speak to me of Obama's call for CAFE standards and I show them it is just not enough given the metrics and the science.
Somehow, however impossible solutions might be, we need to do all we can to awaken the others. We are canaries in the mine and we have a job to do. Talking to Democrats about our lost democracy or the need to crush capitalism is a dead-end street until far more background and education can be provided to them. I've found that making Democrats prioritize issues like global warming, oil dependence and military spending makes them stop and think a little. It allows us to get past the "Nader made Gore lose" idiocy and start asking real questions about real problems. Instead of letting them get away with "my candidate is better than the Republican", I ask whether their candidate has real solutions to problems that are destroying the country and threatening life on the planet. They have plenty of trouble with that.
Perhaps I am being disingenuous in citing my three critical issues. The truth is I, too, see the single issue you cited. These other issues are cited for political reasons. These other issues are cited to open and sustain a dialog with those we need to convince. These other issues, which are the result of a disempowered citizenry, have such urgency (e.g. passing the tipping point on global warming) that it seems fair, from some perspective, to cite them right alongside the tyranny and loss of representation that confront us.
You concluded your excellent essay with:
"The idea of gathering progressives together into a party to lead a democratic revolution sounds great too, but history has proven that no one listens to the minority voices of reason until after the empire has fallen. Then, unfortunately, history repeats itself. Once again, we're back to where we've been."
What, if anything, can be architected to block the almost inevitable accretion of power to those who are the most successful under any societal design? As you stated, history leaves very little reason for hope. But, hope I do nevertheless. Perhaps, facing planetary extinction, a state where no one (not even the wealthy and powerful) can survive, our global consciousness will be raised. Perhaps, with a shrinking world with vastly enhanced communications, we might actually dare to communicate the state of the human condition. Perhaps, we will learn from history's harsh lessons and choose a wiser path.
To me, it feels like far more than the great American empire is coming to an end. There is not enough food to sustain us. There is not enough water to sustain us. Still, our numbers grow and grow and grow. Our current energy policy can only lead to war. We have abused our planetary home and we're clearly unable to either envision or embrace the radical changes we need to set things right. With each tick of the clock, our tiny window closes a little more. The others will awaken all too soon. It may just not be soon enough.
Here's a damn good single-sentence synopsis of the whole thing, right here:
"The concept of a country with a population of 300 million held captive by a small group of criminals hiding behind the pretense of democracy is difficult to comprehend..."
- Giovanna (6:48 pm)
"For me, the THREE CRITICAL ISSUES are global warming, oil dependency and militarism. Put succinctly, neither Obama nor Clinton has any sort of credible plan to address these issues. There can be no fix for health care; there can be no fix for education; there can be no fix for decaying infrastructure; there can be no fix for the social safety net; in short, there can be no fix for any domestic issue as long as excessive military spending and spending on imported oil continue. The Democratic Party and its two main candidates refuse to address these issues in any meaningful way. We can no longer afford to just go along with them."--Welshterrier2
All excellent points, and in my opinion, issues of equal importantance. All have been bandied about ad nauseam along with numerous other "critical issues" for years now. Every rational person with an IQ hovering at or near 100 clearly understands that our nation and environment are in deep trouble and that none of our elected representatives has any intention of changing anything. Herein lies the problem. Thus, for me, there is only ONE CRITICAL ISSUE: the US government has ceased to function as a Democratic Republic (if it ever actually did). All of the other "critical issues" are a direct result of this ONE.
Particularly, over the past 30 years, the US government's only mission is to maintain the stability of a narrow, self-serving status quo that ensures wealth, prosperity and happiness for the few—the elite—by exploiting—CAPITALIZING UPON—everyone and everything else.
In fact, to even call it a government is to speak euphemistically. Democratic governments are formed by their citizens to maintain a social contract with the people and to represent the people's interests. All governmental powers are ostensibly derived from the consent of the governed. The US government, on the other hand, disguises itself as a democracy, but operates as an organized crime syndicate headed by self-absorbed demagogues who've been anointed by the new American corporate aristocracy. This is the problem. This is why we have no oppositional resistance. This is why we have unresolved critical issues.
"[Plutocratic] elitism implies that public policy does not reflect demands of 'the people' so much as it reflects the interests and values of elites" (Dye & Zeigler, 2006, p. 3). The people, the masses—We the People—have contributed to this ironic demise by allowing disaffection from democratic politics, and adopting the attitudes, proposals, and behavior of elites, so that even if the people were to shed their ignorance and apathy and turn to political action, the result could be another form of authoritarianism.
The concept of a country with a population of 300 million held captive by a small group of criminals hiding behind the pretense of democracy is difficult to comprehend. Alas, that is our reality and the roadblock to fixing all of our other critical issues such as "global warming, oil dependency and militarism." For if the US government acted in accordance with the Constitution and made policies that reflected the demands of the people—if our government truly functioned as a republic—our issues would not be of such critical magnitude.
The solution? At this point, I'm not sure there is one. Thomas Jefferson once wrote "whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive … it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it… [and] when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, … evinces a Design to reduce [the people] under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security." Yet, though he was correct, I simply cannot imagine a nation that spends its time watching FOX News or in pursuit of the latest travails of Britney Spears would be inclined to participate in a revolutionary uprising. The idea of gathering progressives together into a party to lead a democratic revolution sounds great too, but history has proven that no one listens to the minority voices of reason until after the empire has fallen. Then, unfortunately, history repeats itself. Once again, we're back to where we've been. If anyone has any ideas, let me know. Until then, "the preposterous circus of democracy seems likely to play on" (Lyons).
In light of the actions of House leader Pelosi and Senate Majority leader Reid, mark my words: The United States will never leave Iraq until one of two conditions are met:
1. The utter and complete defeat, in battle and in detail, of a majority of the American forces, army and Marines, now and in the foreseeabel future stationed in Iraq by the Iraqi insurgency;
2. A mutiny by a majority of the American forces, army and Marines, now in Iraq against orders to continue the use of force upon the Iraqi people and continuing the occupation of the territory of Iraq.
This ain't gonna happen anytime soon. Therefore, John McCain's assertion that the United States will be in Iraq for 100 years maybe more prescient than any of us are willing to admit.
I am sending the following excerpt from welshterrier2's comment to my friends. It is a plain and inspiring description of what could unify many kinds of people into a third party movement or any other format of resistance to the current order:
"The THREE CRITICAL ISSUES are global warming, oil dependency and militarism. Put succinctly, neither Obama nor Clinton has any sort of credible plan to address these issues. There can be no fix for health care; there can be no fix for education; there can be no fix for decaying infrastructure; there can be no fix for the social safety net; in short, there can be no fix for any domestic issue as long as excessive military spending and spending on imported oil continue. The Democratic Party and its two main candidates refuse to address these issues in any meaningful way."
Thanks welshterrier2
A good related article article comparing the libertarian anti-war movement with the hijacked official anti-war movement:
http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh06052007.html
The Democratic Senatorial Campaign committee worked hard during the last primary season to defeat anti-war Democrats. I am convinced that their anti-war stance is a fraud. They are just as committed to imperialism as the Republicans. Their primary interest is in gaining power.
If the Democrats were really interested in representing the will of the people, they would have long since put Instant Runoff Voting into the party platform and worked to institute it. IRV is a 100% solution to the spoiler problem, allowing people to express their true preferences without fear of helping elect their least favored candidate.
John M. Morgan
welshTerrier2
I want to commend you for a fantastic and well-articulated comment.
Forget Obama, THIS is inspiring. You have hit several nails squarely on the head. We've tried working within the party and it doesn't work. Voting for more corporatist warmongers is just going to produce more corporatism and warmongerism.
This country is so seriously on the wrong track that we can no longer waste our time on incrementalism. As you say, progressives need to get organized. The non-choice we are presented with in this election has convinced me of the need to vote for Green party candidates, join the Green Party and work to build a movement from down ballot candidates on up. Building a viable third party is going to take some time as Doom n Gloom says. But I don't see that there is any other realistic and moral choice.
On the subject of moral choice: if you are truly anti-war for example and you vote for Obama or Clinton--two candidates who have vowed to continue along the wrongheaded path of our insane military industrial buildup you are making a choice that is either ignorant, immoral or both. You may think you are voting for the lesser of two evils and go to sleep happy, but you are still voting for evil.
Dichterfreund wrote:
"The function of a third party has to be to initiate vast changes from below — changes in ways of thinking and speaking, and not accepting the imperial imperatives as givens, refusing the national mythologies as positive."
Well said! The changes are under way and growing. Be patient as we would with a garden.
re: Kernel February 9th, 2008 6:21 pm
"seriousprofessor ...
As for no difference in the two parties, I do not remember the Democrats undfer Clinton handing the entire surplus to their cronies and then starting an endless war and charging it to their kids, as the Bushies have done."
You rebut an assertion that I did not make. This is a major problem with the Democratic Party and its partisans. As long as they hear only what they wish to hear, they will never understand the actual criticisms. That is wilful ignorance, by definition.
I invite you to scroll back up to my 5:41 post and respond to what is actually there.
re: welshTerrier2 (9:21 pm)
Thank you for your cogent post. I hope that Kernel, et al, notes especially this: "We really need not debate the "dead end" issue of whether Democrats are different from Republicans. What we need to debate is whether Democrats have the political courage and the values to do what is needed. The sad answer is that they don't."
Ideas matter, and in this new Gilded Age where too many people are hurting, it is insane to continue the damage with nodding approval at the capital D on the end, even if that damage is unidentical in detail compared to the capital R.
emkay writes:
"and then pull their punches, without taking the last and final step–supporting a third party."
and Doom & Gloom writes,
"life agenda includes celebrating life in all of it's dimensions, human, animal, environment, health care, anti-war, healthy foods, etc., and all the complex dimensions of their interactions. By doing so I believe that progressives would draw voters from both Dems and Repubs in the establishment of a new party"
The Dead Dog Dems will always shriek that third parties can't succeed, so we have to work through the Democratic Party.
But building another party to function within the terms & paramaters of the mono-duopoly will only maintain the structures as they are. Those structures can't be changed from within the parties, nor through a third party committed to functioning within the same sort of rules & superstitions of the US electoral box.
A third electoral party would become another version of the DemoPublicans, obliged to make the same types of compromises and deals.
The function of a third party has to be to initiate vast changes from below -- changes in ways of thinking and speaking, and not accepting the imperial imperatives as givens, refusing the national mythologies as positive.
At the same time, recognize that the structure is breaking because of the inescapable contradictions. A third party has to do the people's work with the knowledge that no majority ever altered its habits within a day, a week, a month; but those habits are altering because history is obliging them to do so.
While establishing a viable third party will not happen anytime soon, especially when the two controlling parties pass laws to make it virtually impossible, viability is NOT the short-term objective. Voting for a third party helps organize progressives into a voting bloc. It gives us a chance to work together and to build our shared vision. Working as individuals inside the Democratic Party marginalizes us. We have no voice there ... none. Do you question this? You need look no further than what was done in the debates to Kucinich's voice.
Is it true that third parties could result in Republicans winning elections and appointing horrible Supreme Court justices? Of course that's true. Many of us believe, however, that there is an even more important objective. If we continue to endorse the pro-corporate policies of the Democratic Party, we have no say in either the party or our government. Job one, however important the Supreme Court might be, is to ensure that we have a seat at the table. We either have a voice or we don't. Inside the Democratic Party, our chairs have been removed and our voices stifled. Outside the party, especially if we can build a "voting bloc", the Democrats might just one day find they need to form a coalition with third party voters in order to win. If we keep voting for them, our votes are taken for granted and they have no incentive to work with us.
There are thousands of important issues. There are very few issues, however, that must be addressed as our first priority. Global warming threatens the entire planet. Our dependence on oil is bankrupting the US Treasury while the oil companies are making record profits. And, our dependence on oil has been used to justify endless war in the Middle East and virtually unlimited "defense" spending. Our dependence on oil has been a key reason US troops occupy more than 730 military bases overseas. The conduct of US oil companies abroad coupled with the occupation of foreign countries by US troops create a deep hatred for the US. Such policies make us far less safe.
For me, the THREE CRITICAL ISSUES are global warming, oil dependency and militarism. Put succinctly, neither Obama nor Clinton has any sort of credible plan to address these issues. There can be no fix for health care; there can be no fix for education; there can be no fix for decaying infrastructure; there can be no fix for the social safety net; in short, there can be no fix for any domestic issue as long as excessive military spending and spending on imported oil continue. The Democratic Party and its two main candidates refuse to address these issues in any meaningful way. We can no longer afford to just go along with them.
We must have radical, immediate solutions to global warming. We will not survive with tokenism and incrementalism and politically "safe" solutions. This is not a "left wing" impatience; it's science. We need to stop spewing CO2 into the air immediately. The solution is to throw everything we have at a program to develop solar and other forms of alternative energy. We can pay for it by cutting $500 billion per year out of the $1.1 trillion "defense" budget. Has Obama or Clinton called for that? No, of course not. They're still screwing around with clean coal and CAFE standards. Has Obama or Clinton called for closing down all foreign US military bases and bringing all those troops home. No, they haven't. Has Obama or Clinton called for the drastic, immediate reductions in CO2 that must be made? No, they haven't.
We really need not debate the "dead end" issue of whether Democrats are different from Republicans. What we need to debate is whether Democrats have the political courage and the values to do what is needed. The sad answer is that they don't. The sad answer is that they have chosen political expediency. They sad answer is, that while third parties may indeed be no solution at all, they offer the only possibility, however remote, for the changes we so critically need.
The quote about underestimating Americans is usually attributed to HL Mencken.
"Even Americans can't be fooled forever."
Wasn't it Mark Twain who said you would never go btoke underestimating Americans?
Take that, Tom Hayden. Cynical Democratic Party manipulates the antiwar constituency, and Taibbi demonstrates the point.
The rah-rah Democrats posting here need to get a clue. The Democrats in Congress, except for a handful, heartily supported these wars for years. They don't represent you, and they won't in the future, no matter how many "inspiring" speeches are delivered.
Look at the candidates' records and then talk about who will represent your interests in the future. It's the ugly truth that they don't and won't. Get used to it. And vote Green, by the way.
Kernel (6:21 pm) writes, " ...As for no difference in the two parties, I do not remember the Democrats undfer Clinton handing the entire surplus to their cronies and then starting an endless war and charging it to their kids, as the Bushies have done...Anyone that cannot understand the difference in balancing the budget and creating a surplus as Clinton did and adding four or five trillion to the national debt as Bush did is not trying very much."
- This is all baloney. Virtually ALL of Clinton's oft-cited "surplus" came from the stock market boom. It had nothing to do with "shrewd management" or making tough budget choices. There was no decrease in military spending, for example. There was a tiny one-time increase in the tax rate on the highest income bracket. But the overwhelming bulk of the improvement in the deficit came from increased govt revenue, via capital gains taxes on stock market profits. // The boom itself was based mostly on hot air and corruption, which Clinton's policies specifically encouraged. Clinton and the Democratic senator from Wall St (Schumer) rolled back all manner of regulation of financial firms, including the Glass-Steagall Act, which had been introduced in the 1930's to prevent hijinks on Wall St.
When you say you don't remember Clinton "starting an endless war and charging it to (future generations)," the operative word is "endless." Clinton actually pulled off one war in Kosovo, on entirely false pretenses -- just like Bush in Iraq. But Clinton got away with that one, because the war was short. // Furthermore, Clinton may have killed as many Iraqis as Bush has. He just did it in a different way -- somewhat more subtly, so to speak.
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Dem Party apologists always get hot & bothered about the charge that "there's no difference between the parties." Their indignation is ill-founded for 2 reasons. First of all, the real claim is not that there is "NO" difference. The real claim is that the differences which exist don't really make any difference (so to speak). // Second of all, the claim that there is "a difference" means virtually nothing. For instance, there is "a difference" between George W Bush and McCain. There's "a difference" between McCain and Romney. There's "a difference" between Bush and Reagan.
However, like the differences between Democrats and Republicans, these differences make no real difference. This is because both parties are owned by, and work for, the same ruling class interests.
Why is it so hard for Dear Party Dem-at-all-costers to realize that their beloved party is another wing of the war and money party?
Because their party's branding includes pseudo-liberalism they have to make feints in the direction of appearing to be anti-war, but they support it wholeheartedly. War is good for corporate America and corporate America is good for underwriting campaigns. You aren't going to get very far with a run for higher office if you actually make a genuine stand against war.
Dems hide behind the ruse of incompetence that Taibbi seems to fall for. They are not incompetent. They want war.
The worst thing that can be said about them is that they didn't have the guts to greenlight the wetdreams of the PNAC but now that they have been greenlighted, they have done and will continue to do precious little to stop the war.
Especially now that "the surge is working" according to corporate media CW.
Below are the hedged words from the Obama and Clinton campaigns. I'm not satisfied with this but lately McCain has spoken of a 100-year war.
Obama and Clinton sound very similar but Obama is slightly less vague about not building permanent bases and saying combat troops out in 16 months. Both talk about "strikes" against AQ targets.
OBAMA:
Bringing Our Troops Home
Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda.
CLINTON:
Starting Phased Redeployment within Hillary's First Days in Office: The most important part of Hillary's plan is the first: to end our military engagement in Iraq's civil war and immediately start bringing our troops home. As president, one of Hillary's first official actions would be to convene the Joint Chiefs of Staff, her Secretary of Defense, and her National Security Council. She would direct them to draw up a clear, viable plan to bring our troops home starting with the first 60 days of her Administration. She would also direct the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs to prepare a comprehensive plan to provide the highest quality health care and benefits to every service member -- including every member of the National Guard and Reserves -- and their families.
Hillary sucks. Please, please DONT vote for her. Since 1988: only a Bush or a Clinton. ENOUGH. Give a somebody else a chance: isn't that what democracy is about? Seems like we live in a monarchy more than a democracy nowadays. I knew America was seriously adrift after the 2004 election results--but to see people so naive as to actually vote for Hillary Clinton is unbelievable. People: WAKE UP to how Clinton and Bush administrations have worked together to further a SINGLE AGENDA. There is no difference: Hillary Clinton will pick up where GW Bush left off.
seriousprofessor__I also am disapointed in the candidates we have left to vote for, as I had another in mind. I do think the American people need to blame themselves somewhat for the problems we have as they fell for the right wing propaganga which made it more difficult to work against in Congress.
As for no difference in the two parties, I do not remember the Democrats undfer Clinton handing the entire surplus to their cronies and then starting an endless war and charging it to their kids, as the Bushies have done.
Anyone that cannot understand the difference in balancing the budget and creating a surplus as Clinton did and adding four or five trillion to the national debt as Bush did is not trying very much.
It is not only the President, but also the people around him that matter, with the Repubs we have more of the same fiasco.
RichM: Are there any Democrats that are wide-aware of their party's true nature and are completely happy to service it's needs? Where did they learn of it's nature, and how did it become so?
re: Kernel (4:02) - "The main thrust of many posts lately has been to discredit one of the Dem candidates or the the other (usually Hillary) as not being a fit candidate for office. That is a total waste of time as either would be a world better than any Republican."
Let us assume that your premise here is correct, even though I happen not to think so.
In such a case, we still need to understand that "better" is constituted by a series of intolerable positions.
A rational person will try to figure out how we've gotten to this point. I argue that settling for Democrats who move successively rightward is a meaningful contributor to this situation. The Dems are now to the right of Nixon. The comparative term "better" has been rendered meaningless.
How exactly is more rightward drift any answer to more than a generation of rightward drift? For all rational discussants, it is not.
Cindy Sheehan is running against Pelosi as "decline to state"--
http://www.cindyforcongress.org/article.php?list=type&type=12
I think her victory would be, arguably, as significant as a Democrat winning the presidency. It is a very important race and one where the corrupt and complicit Democrats could be put on notice.
The theory that having a right-wing Republican driving the country into the ground would be about grassroots resistance has been shown to be false, perhaps partly because of the force of the corporate media.
That said, I suspect we would be better off as organizers & protesters if McCain was NOT the president. And I think Obama is more progressive than Clinton in terms of their voting records. According to recent polls, Obama has better odds to beat McCain. The differences between these three leading contenders are significant and I see no need to gloss over them. I don't understand why others who are critics of the Democrats want to simplify the complexity of the distinctions. There is no need to do so and it is not persuasive.
I agree, as SecularAnimist wrote, that we should "[focus] on electing Greens to local and state offices, where the barriers are somewhat lower, where door-to-door people-power grassroots organizing and campaigning can play a more effective role, and where it is actually possible to get some people elected (see the official US Green Party website at www.gp.org for a list of Greens currently holding elected office)."
I favor the development of third parties and feel that we must ultimately create a powerful alternative to the corruption of democratic party politicians like Reid and Pelosi.
I want to see the GP run a strong presidential candidate. Push the presidential race to the left by running a real campaign, not like last time.
The GP (and other third parties) should demand to be in the presidential debates. I don't think there should be worry about the spoiler effect because people have the ability to sort out how close the race is, whether or not their commitment to a third party candidate and their own ideals is stronger than their feelings about the importance of having the Democratic Party candidate secure the presidency.
Corruption at the level of the Diebold machine is possible but now no one need be naive about that matter and can factor it into their voting decision.
Fighting for hand counted paper ballots and electoral reforms is another issue that third parties can raise that the Democrats and Republicans will not.
I believe there is room for a multifaceted approach--and without vitriol and hatred.
re: jclientelle (11:19)
"seriousprofessor - your analysis lacks a transition. Why Hillary when she is guilty of almost every weakness you raise?"
Simply, I do not advocate for Hillary Clinton. You apparently are reacting to a part of the article I quoted, one which contains obvious sarcasm.
Dear Folks -
There are so few people writing on Common Dreams blogs that I feel I know some of you personally, which is indicative of how few we are. Sigh.
We are without satisfactory answers for this election. Yes, both major parties support imperialism and corporatism and fail to serve the population with some differences in detail and extent. Yes we need third Party alternatives. And yes it is especially difficult where there are no structural provisions for minorities as there are in Parliamentary systems.
So for now can we agree that we have no fully satisfactory approach at hand in the electoral arena today? We can vote or not vote for the Democrats, but it is palliative at best, not curative. We can vote for a Third Party knowing it is a symbolic act of conscience and no threat to Dems and Republicans. Whether electing a Democrat will make a substantive difference in one life or many lives or whether it creates illusions that halt growth of consciousness and sidetracks struggle for real solutions, these are eternal questions regarding reform, charity work etc. These will continue to be questions as long as we are marginal. So can we give some leeway for people to disagree honestly on this issue?
So in any case we can agree that we need to have more control, we need to organize, regardless of who is elected? To create a third party or many third parties WORK is in the picture. Long term, patient work. First you have to get at least three people to agree on what the party will stand for. Reading these blogs, that looks almost impossible to me. So we will have to ramp down the egotism a bit and find what we can agree on. We will have to show respect and develop together as we go.
But for now, I believe we have to publicly press candidates on the Peace issue and other issues in any way we can to expose candidate's positions and take the public discourse where we want to to be. Otherwise we are completely capitulating on the elections, which is capturing the attention of the people more than ever before in recent memory.
Third or even fourth parties are the obvious answer. They don't have to win the elections to act as spoilers who won't listen to their party. Ross Perot spoiled the election for George HW Bush, and Ralph Nader spoiled the election for Al Gore. The Democratic and Republican parties should have to stand up for their constituents desires or risk their support being split by spoilers. This is as it should be. There are just two many anti-war (80%) Democrats who are being ignored by the entire Democratic leadership. They should pay a huge price for this.
Kernel ( 4:02 pm) asks, "RichM and others__ Just how many decades do you think it will take to dismantle the two party system we now have and replace it with the Greens, or combination of several others? "
- The question is like asking, in 1845, how many decades it would take to get rid of slavery. At that time, it appeared that slavery would be with us indefinitely. Yet the struggle had to begin somewhere. Abolitionists of the 1840's were harshly scorned in mainstream opinion, just as leftist radicals are derided today. ("Crazy. Idealistic. Not practical." etc) // Similarly, the struggle for enfranchising women began in the 1840's. It didn't succeed until 1920. // In the present situation, it doesn't matter how long it would take. The point is that the struggle must begin -- it can't be avoided, and we will become only further enslaved if we don't start the struggle. // And in fact, with the proper organization, it might not take very long at all. The main obstacle is weaning the decent half of the population off their mental dependence on the Democratic Party.
You are wrong to say that any Democrat "would be a world better than any Republican." The 2-party system is like poison. To keep swallowing the poison makes the patient sicker, weaker and ever more unable to throw off his oppressors. Electing Democrats has never succeeded in undoing what Republicans have done. (The only apparent exception to this statement was the New Deal -- & even that unique set of reforms was pushed through more to preserve the existing form of society, than to fundamentally change it. They didn't pass those reforms out of love for the masses. They did it because they recognized they had no choice -- to not do so would have courted mass rebellion.)
By electing Democrats, you are supporting the 2-party system. Invariably, Democrats in office do exactly what the Republicans would have done anyway (while smiling more, & talking mommy-party talk more). (Bill Clinton, and the Pelosi-Reid Congress are great examples of this.) Then the stage is set for another Republican era -- where the Evilcrats go along with every new war, every military spending bill, and every attack on democratic & constitutional rights. They systematically allow every Republican crime to go unpunished.
Electing Democrats is not a way to destroy or defang Republicans. It's a way to continue Republican rule indefinitely, under the superficial guise of "democracy."
Matt Taibbi is a fine journalist who doesn't spin the truth. This often makes people uncomfortable, but democrat or republican, Mr. Taibbi calls them as he sees them. Looks like he hit a raw nerve with Daniel David who consistently supports the democratic professional liars while vilifying the republican ones.
Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of their worthless ilk enjoy their powerful jobs because they promised their democratic sheeple that they would tighten the purse strings on Bush's crony capitalism and rapacious assault on the middle class, investigate corruption and administer justice, consider impeachment, and begin to end this illegal war. Instead, they've done NOTHING but enable further corruption and the dismantling of the US Constitution. They used their constituents in 2006 by making insincere promises (LIES) in effort to oust unpopular republicans. It worked. The only difference is that now the Democratic elite can enjoy the power too, winking and nodding along with their colleagues-in-crime, the Republican fat cats, at the never-ending stupidity of the American public. You can't make this stuff up.
I've said this before and it obviously bears repeating. Anyone who believes that the current Democratic party is even remotely different, morally or politically, from the current conscience-challenged Republican party probably still leaves notes for Santa along with milk and cookies at Christmas, our national celebration of American excess and crony capitalism. I bet you still think Christmas is about the birth of somebody's god? Get real! "It's the capitalist's economy, Stupid!" It's just another charade. I digress.
Like Bush, et al, John McCain is a reactionary phony. The only differences between John McCain and Hillary Clinton are age and gender. When the public finally alters its misguided (non)thinking and dispenses with this brainwashed nonsense that the US government--We the People--is a representative democracy, and that the people's votes actually count, perhaps they will recognize the link between this charade of oppositional parties and fascism.
It's not about a third party emerging to replace one of the two corporate parties. It's about taking away the power of the corporate shills running the Democratic Party in the name of the DLC, etc. Take away their power by denying them electoral victories and we begin the process of taking back the party for the people, a process that was derailed after the '72 election, when they used the defeat of true progressive George McGovern to change the rules to prevent a true People's candidate from ever becoming the nominee again.
We need to deny them a victory in November to begin the process of taking away their power once and for all. Vote Green as a protest, as a way to put a number with our discontent. As long as the DLC candidates continue to win, we cannot mount an effective insurgency to take the party back. They have to lose power to be defeated. We may have to wander in the wilderness for awhile to gain control of the party. The neo-cons did it for a lot of years before they finally won with Reagan in '80. Yes, we face great issues and problems, but neither side is addressing the truly life-threatening World-wide problems of peak oil, overpopulation, corporatism, and other looming economic and environmental disasters. Everything else is just fiddling around the margins.
I say, lets make all of them irrelevant. Throw the bums out! Vote for the enemy - do a write-in, send an email. Take no prisoners. The next town or community meeting, all you "activist" need to get vocal with these elected officials. Better yet, run for office against them - that'll show 'em.
Oh HELL YA! Excellent article! Beautifully said! KUDOS!!! Big Stars!!!
Bend-over_crats:
Retreat, capitulate, curtail, withdraw, recant, repudiate, fall back, retire, submit, renounce, relinquish, yield, quit, fail, expire, abandan, resign, abdicate, accommodate, acquiesce, appease, come to terms, concede, cop out, crumble, deliver, demise, drop, dump, forgo, fork over, forswear, forsake, get rid of, give away, give in, give over, go down, grant, hand-over, hand in, lay down, part with, punt, quitclaim, release, renunciate, settle, sissys, sign over, spineless, split the difference, strike a bargain, succumb, throw up, transfer, vacate, waive, weaklings, white feather, white flag, yield, get screwed, hosed, shagged, chicken, Milquetoast, craven, invertebrate, gutless, spead eagle on the hood of an old pick-up truck sporting a Conferate flag and gun rack…….
Or more succintly, just bend over.
RichM and others__ Just how many decades do you think it will take to dismantle the two party system we now have and replace it with the Greens, or combination of several others? The present system, for all of its faults, took decades to get to its present state and short of revolution, will be around for awhile.
The main thrust of many posts lately has been to discredit one of the Dem candidates or the the other (usually Hillary) as not being a fit candidate for office. That is a total waste of time as either would be a world better than any Republican.
The difference, for anyone that would like our country to survive, is between electing either Dem as opposed to having four or eight more years of ruination by the same bunch of criminals we have now.
Common Dreams are a great thing for us all, but we will not have a country to dream about if we cannot stop this present erosian of our assets, principles, and opportunities. It would seem that for any change to occur in the two party system, the minority groups should combine so that they had a better chance to throw some weight in the elections.
In the contest between the Big Money few vs. the rest of us, we don't stand a chance. Do we contract lots of lawyers, own the major media and have a monopoly on information, bribe all 545 politicians in DC, own the M/I/I complex, our energy, our food, health care, shelter, educational corporations, banks and so on? NO! We may own a few shares, but they own controlling interest.
When Big Money does something really nasty, we may get up in arms about it and cause a temporary change. But it's just that, temporary because Big Money invariably makes the rules.
So all this stuff about progressives doing something about this or that is just talk. There is nothing we can do under a government duopoly that represents the business oligarchy over the people. Nothing that is, unless we stop this fatal attraction with representative government and quit relying on politicians to rescue our collective asses, knowing that really doing that will get them figuratively or actually killed.
The only solution I see is to represent ourselves direct democratically via modern communications like this one. And the easiest way to organize is to incorporate We the People into the largest, most powerful corporation that makes the rules. Until liberals and progressives recognize these things, the only way they will ever acquire power is to become the money-power, the antithesis of liberal thought.
I have never heard of the (supposed) anti-war movement group referred to in this article. Please distinguish these apparently K-Street astro-turfers from real anti-war groups (United for Peace and Justice, Military Families, all those who are organizing the Moratorium Days, etc. etc. etc.). Don't tar the entire anti-war movement with the sell-out brush. It just makes people think they shouldn't bother to turn out for demonstrations -- and blame "those anti-war activists" for the politicians' decisions.
One particularly objectionable bleating of Dem Party apologists is the idea that their critics on the Left -- who are finished for good with the duplicity of the Evilcrats -- are motivated simply by an egotistical desire to be "pure." This isn't the case at all.
On the contrary, despising the Evilcrats is the very most rational and practical of stances. Representative democracy can't possibly work unless the public is A) informed & conscious of its own interests, & B) has at least some candidates to choose from who represent their (the public's) interests. By collaborating with Republicans to dominate political life on behalf of the US ruling classes, the Evilcrats destroy these necessary conditions for a functioning democracy. At every election, we are essentially forced to vote for which of our enemies we find to be less odious.
Every population can be divided into halves in numerous ways. For instance, the US population has a half that is more sadistic, authoritarian & belligerent; and a half that is less so. It has a half that is more concerned with following the Golden Rule, and "mommy" qualities like tolerance and mercy, and so on; and a half that is less so. Etc etc.
The 2-party system exploits such divisions by offering a party specialized in each of several crucial splits of the population. Authoritarian sadists will generally prefer Republicans, while Golden-Rulers respond better to Democrats. This doesn't mean, though, that the actual Dem Party is a Golden-Rule party. It just means that it uses language more suggestive of mommy qualities, to gain influence over the half of the population that responds to such language.
Since the Evilcrats make nice noises, sometimes, while Republicans far more stridently call for bombing other countries into oblivion, the "nice" half of the US population is more attracted to the mommy party. This is doubly unfortunate, because the mommy party doesn't really believe in mommy principles, as Matt Taibbi's article makes clear. And -- most perniciously -- the uncritical swallowing of Democratic Party slop, by the mommy half of the population, sucks the life and energy out of what by rights should go to building a true party of the Left.
In other words, the essential game of the Evilcrats is to seduce the more decent half of the population, by using language more pleasing to that half's ears -- then to betray the aspirations of that half at every turn.
Anyone even considering voting for this disgusting party of traitors should reflect that what you're really voting for is more Nancy Pelosis, Harry Reids, and Billary's. You are voting for the party that allowed the last 7 years to happen, without so much as even putting up a fight against it.
DD (Advance hint: Third part "solutions" are not "solutions").
Maybe not, but a second party would be a start.
Another great article by Matt Taibbi. The leaders and the majority of the Democratic Congress are impotent, by their own choice, because they value (misguided) politics above human life. It's shameful.
Dan (2:39) - do you know the slightest thing about US history? Yesterday you wrote (12:44 in the Medea Benjamin thread) "We (the USA government) have an inconvenient history of supporting a lot of the "wrong people" covertly. ... The Shah, Bin Laden, Saddam, Somoza, this guy, Carriles? Is there a pattern?"
In other words, you thought it was at least an arguable matter, whether or not there's a "pattern." That matter is not in question. Virtually every one of the 5 dozen or so US interventions into the affairs of other countries since WWII (and even before) has been in support of the more rightwing & corrupt elements. And this has been done on a completely bipartisan basis. There's no difference at all between the parties in this respect -- not today, and not in the past.
Similarly, today, you say "You will make progress on ending the war when you get a Dem president. Not until." This is the remark of someone who's completely ignorant of US history. The Democrats are not opposed to the current war, and have never opposed any of the other dirty US interventions into the affairs of other countries, either. I challenge you to show us a list of those instances since WWII where you believe that US aggression abroad was committed by Republicans, but staunchly opposed by Democrats.
Come on, I dare you -- Show us some examples of this. If you can't (and you won't be able to, because there are no such cases), then you should quit claiming that Democrats will end the war. It's a completely dishonest claim, based only on hot air & your own ignorance.
PS - your last post about Scalia should remind readers that Democrats never made a serious effort to oppose any of Bush's rightwing nominations -- not for Supreme Court, nor for AG, nor for high intelligence posts.
Post above would have us believe there is no difference between Democratic Supreme Court Judges and Republican Supreme Court Judges. Ever heard of Scalia?
RichM wrote: dolkar & others (12:57 ) echo the tired old argument, trotted out like clockwork at every election, that "No rational person should believe for a second that there is no substantial distinction between Clinton, Obama and McCain on the biggest stuff (our suicidal imperalism)…"
Anyone ever notice how the rhetoric of Dem supporters becomes more shrill as the distinction between the Democrats and the GOP becomes less and less?
dolkar,
I am not a "plant". As for your call to "take down his arguments", go at it. I wish you and all my other critics would actually do that. Most of them, now you, find it so much easier to rail at DD than to make any sense with any substance. (Advance Hint: Third party "solutions" are not "solutions.")
BeForKids,
We're on the same side, remember? Barack Obama.
You will make progress on ending the war when you get a Dem president. Not until. And you know it. What's with all the beefing? If you demand that Reid and Pelosi literally PREVENT Barack from being elected by energizing every gungho warrier in the country to vote McCain, there is no progress.
dolkar & others (12:57 ) echo the tired old argument, trotted out like clockwork at every election, that "No rational person should believe for a second that there is no substantial distinction between Clinton, Obama and McCain on the biggest stuff (our suicidal imperalism)..." (or fill in the names for other years' R's and D's).
Actually, on the biggest stuff, there is no substantial distinction. As long as we're just talking about the "biggest stuff," there's not even any difference between Al Gore & GW Bush. (Yes, I know this sounds like heresy to those of you who don't understand how the 2-party system really works.)
It's funny that you should have chosen imperialism as your example, because though there are differences between R's & D's on more limited matters, there is perfect agreement between them on imperialism: they're both rock-solid supporters of it. In fact, no Democrat will EVER even utter the phrase "US imperialism" in public speech (let alone criticize it, or oppose it). They implicitly deny that any such thing exists.
Bill Clinton came to office a year after the USSR dissolved. He didn't even attempt to cut military spending. Yet the entire reason for the existence of the military-industrial complex, ever since it was born in the years after WWII, was supposedly "fighting Communism." No sooner did Communism go out of business, than the Pentagon simply conjured up other excuses for continuing to consume hundreds of billions of dollars every year. And the Democrats never made the slightest objection to any of this. It's never even been a campaign issue -- and isn't to this day, when the MIC consumes almost a trillion dollars a year.
Neither the fake "hope" candidate, Obama, nor the out-and-out neocon Hillary, even mentions cutting defense spending. They don't talk about the "military-industrial complex," any more than they talk about "US imperialism." (Discussion of such things is "off the table," as Evilcrat Pelosi might say.) One thing they DO talk about, though, is the "War on terror." They're both for it. They both want to "win" the war (which is Bush's concept, incidentally), and raise no objection to the fact that it's in principle an endless war.
In the spirit of Mount Rushmore I propose Mount Azzmore. There the dumb azzez of Ried and Pelosi could be forever enshrined. Small desk models could be sold to finance the larger project.
Amazing ! A new poll indicates the majority of Americans now realize that getting out of Iraq will help restore the economy. How strange that neither the Presidential candidates or Congress understand the basic math on deficit military spending.
The imperial war criminals are burning up about $4 Billion (Iraq/Afghanistan) a week as debt that must be paid back with interest. And other than profits for the military complex this money does not get circulated within the domestic economy.
Every time a bomb goes off or a bullet is fired, that is money disappearing.
We are already experiencing "war" related inflation and devaluation of our currency. The occupation of Iraq has also raised rather than lowered crude oil prices thus crippling the economy with high energy costs. Etc.
If the money wasted on imperial aggression was circulated within the domestic economy for beneficial purposes such as health care, education, developing public utilities or infrastructure improvements, every penny spent would be circulated within the economy over and over again in productive ways.
And a new twist has developed in Russia. Due to American global aggression, the Russians are now ready to get back into the arms race. Imagine how we would feel if Russians began building military bases in Mexico. We now have new bases not only in Afghanistan but other Central Asian countries which creates an American military presence on Russia's southern border.
But as Chalmers Johnson explains so well in "Sorrows Of Empire" the global American system of 700 military bases is now seen by most nations as a threat rather than any form of protection or stability. And this tax subsidized imperial system consumes more money than the "empire" brings back to the American economy.
We can no longer afford to subsidize the military industrial Big Oil complex warfare state.
And in case you missed it, here is one evil Democrat, Feinstein, who put war money directly into her husband's pocket.
War Contracts Feinstein/Blum:
http://www.metroactive.com/feinstein/
dolkar___ I agree with much of what you say. It is vitally important that we get one of the Dems elected to prevent even four more years of this destruction of our country.
However, I am not so sure that Obama is far ahead of Hillary in being electable in the general election. The Repubs have already dug up all there is to throw at Hillary, but just imagine all of the new dirt there will be available to dump on Barack.
The Repugs turned war-heroes into lying traitors in 2004 so they have shown us what they are capable of doing to grab another Presidency (or dictatorship). Don`t be too sure that Obama is an unbeatable candidate.
emkay wrote: "They throw us a Dennis Kucinich once in a while and spout progressive ideals, but with no hope of that person ever getting elected to Preznit ..."
First of all, there is no "they" who "threw us" Dennis Kucinich. There is just Dennis Kucinich, who chose to run for the Democratic nomination to (1) put progressive policies like ending the US occupation of Iraq, and establishing "Medicare For All" single-payer nonprofit medical insurance, into the primary campaign discussion, and (2) to as a vehicle to build and organize a progressive grassroots political constituency within the Democratic Party. And in spite of the resistance from the Democratic Party establishment and the corporate media, Kucinich had some degree of success on both counts.
Second of all, while it's true there was "no hope" of Kucinich getting the nomination, let alone being elected President, there is also no hope that a Green Party presidential nominee will be elected President. The Green Party is quite well aware of this, and in the 2004 election the Green Party nominees David Cobb (for President) and Pat LaMarche (for Vice President) used their campaign much as Kucinich used his primary campaign: to bring progressive ideas into the public discussion and to help build and organize the grassroots Green Party. They did not campaign in close states, so as to avoid helping Bush by splitting the Democratic/progressive vote with Kerry, and instead focused their campaign on helping Greens who were running for local and state offices.
I am a registered Green Party voter, and also a strong Kucinich supporter. In my view, there is not an either/or situation with (1) building a progressive movement within the Democratic Party and (2) building a progressive third party. I believe that progressives need to do both, and that these paths can be complementary and synergistic. What any individual chooses to do depends on their own situation, inclinations, and the opportunities available to them to get involved in party/electoral politics.
And I would suggest not focusing exclusively on national (eg. Congressional and Presidential) elections, and getting involved in local and state elections as well. Most of the serious, active Green Party people I know are focused on electing Greens to local and state offices, where the barriers are somewhat lower, where door-to-door people-power grassroots organizing and campaigning can play a more effective role, and where it is actually possible to get some people elected (see the official US Green Party website at www.gp.org for a list of Greens currently holding elected office). Many progressive Democrats are also organizing locally and effectively to elect progressive Democrats to local and state office.
A successful Progressive-Democratic, Green politics has to be cultivated from the grassroots up.