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Exposed: The US-Saudi Libya deal
You invade Bahrain. We take out Muammar Gaddafi in Libya. This, in short, is the essence of a deal struck between the Barack Obama administration and the House of Saud. Two diplomatic sources at the United Nations independently confirmed that Washington, via Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, gave the go-ahead for Saudi Arabia to invade Bahrain and crush the pro-democracy movement in their neighbor in exchange for a "yes" vote by the Arab League for a no-fly zone over Libya - the main rationale that led to United Nations Security Council resolution 1973.
U.S. Defence Secretary Robert Gates (front L) is greeted by Saudi field marshal Saleh al-Muhaya (C), the Chief of Generals staff of the Saudi Arabian Army, upon his arrival at King Khalid International Airport on March 10, 2010 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Days later, the Saudi military entered Bahrain. (PHOTO BY Jim Watson-Pool/Getty Images) The revelation came from two different diplomats, a European and a member of the BRIC group, and was made separately to a US scholar and Asia Times Online. According to diplomatic protocol, their names cannot be disclosed. One of the diplomats said, "This is the reason why we could not support resolution 1973. We were arguing that Libya, Bahrain and Yemen were similar cases, and calling for a fact-finding mission. We maintain our official position that the resolution is not clear, and may be interpreted in a belligerent manner."
As Asia Times Online has reported, a full Arab League endorsement of a no-fly zone is a myth. Of the 22 full members, only 11 were present at the voting. Six of them were Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) members, the US-supported club of Gulf kingdoms/sheikhdoms, of which Saudi Arabia is the top dog. Syria and Algeria were against it. Saudi Arabia only had to "seduce" three other members to get the vote.
Translation: only nine out of 22 members of the Arab League voted for the no-fly zone. The vote was essentially a House of Saud-led operation, with Arab League secretary general Amr Moussa keen to polish his CV with Washington with an eye to become the next Egyptian President.
Thus, in the beginning, there was the great 2011 Arab revolt. Then, inexorably, came the US-Saudi counter-revolution.
Profiteers rejoice
Humanitarian imperialists will spin en masse this is a "conspiracy", as they have been spinning the bombing of Libya prevented a hypothetical massacre in Benghazi. They will be defending the House of Saud - saying it acted to squash Iranian subversion in the Gulf; obviously R2P - "responsibility to protect" does not apply to people in Bahrain. They will be heavily promoting post-Gaddafi Libya as a new - oily - human rights Mecca, complete with US intelligence assets, black ops, special forces and dodgy contractors.
Whatever they say won't alter the facts on the ground - the graphic results of the US-Saudi dirty dancing. Asia Times Online has already reported on who profits from the foreign intervention in Libya (see There's no business like war business, March 30). Players include the Pentagon (via Africom), the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), Saudi Arabia, the Arab League's Moussa, and Qatar. Add to the list the al-Khalifa dynasty in Bahrain, assorted weapons contractors, and the usual neo-liberal suspects eager to privatize everything in sight in the new Libya - even the water. And we're not even talking about the Western vultures hovering over the Libyan oil and gas industry.
Exposed, above all, is the astonishing hypocrisy of the Obama administration, selling a crass geopolitical coup involving northern Africa and the Persian Gulf as a humanitarian operation. As for the fact of another US war on a Muslim nation, that's just a "kinetic military action".
There's been wide speculation in both the US and across the Middle East that considering the military stalemate - and short of the "coalition of the willing" bombing the Gaddafi family to oblivion - Washington, London and Paris might settle for the control of eastern Libya; a northern African version of an oil-rich Gulf Emirate. Gaddafi would be left with a starving North Korea-style Tripolitania.
But considering the latest high-value defections from the regime, plus the desired endgame ("Gaddafi must go", in President Obama's own words), Washington, London, Paris and Riyadh won't settle for nothing but the whole kebab. Including a strategic base for both Africom and NATO.
Round up the unusual suspects
One of the side effects of the dirty US-Saudi deal is that the White House is doing all it can to make sure the Bahrain drama is buried by US media. BBC America news anchor Katty Kay at least had the decency to stress, "they would like that one [Bahrain] to go away because there's no real upside for them in supporting the rebellion by the Shi'ites."
For his part the emir of Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al Thani, showed up on al-Jazeera and said that action was needed because the Libyan people were attacked by Gaddafi. The otherwise excellent al-Jazeera journalists could have politely asked the emir whether he would send his Mirages to protect the people of Palestine from Israel, or his neighbors in Bahrain from Saudi Arabia.
The al-Khalifa dynasty in Bahrain is essentially a bunch of Sunni settlers who took over 230 years ago. For a great deal of the 20th century they were obliging slaves of the British empire. Modern Bahrain does not live under the specter of a push from Iran; that's an al-Khalifa (and House of Saud) myth.
Bahrainis, historically, have always rejected being part of a sort of Shi'ite nation led by Iran. The protests come a long way, and are part of a true national movement - way beyond sectarianism. No wonder the slogan in the iconic Pearl roundabout - smashed by the fearful al-Khalifa police state - was "neither Sunni nor Shi'ite; Bahraini".
What the protesters wanted was essentially a constitutional monarchy; a legitimate parliament; free and fair elections; and no more corruption. What they got instead was "bullet-friendly Bahrain" replacing "business-friendly Bahrain", and an invasion sponsored by the House of Saud.
And the repression goes on - invisible to US corporate media. Tweeters scream that everybody and his neighbor are being arrested. According to Nabeel Rajab, president of the Bahrain Center for Human Rights, over 400 people are either missing or in custody, some of them "arrested at checkpoints controlled by thugs brought in from other Arab and Asian countries - they wear black masks in the streets." Even blogger Mahmood Al Yousif was arrested at 3 am, leading to fears that the same will happen to any Bahraini who has blogged, tweeted, or posted Facebook messages in favor of reform.
Globocop is on a roll
Odyssey Dawn is now over. Enter Unified Protector - led by Canadian Charles Bouchard. Translation: the Pentagon (as in Africom) transfers the "kinetic military action " to itself (as in NATO, which is nothing but the Pentagon ruling over Europe). Africom and NATO are now one.
The NATO show will include air and cruise missile strikes; a naval blockade of Libyia; and shady, unspecified ground operations to help the "rebels". Hardcore helicopter gunship raids a la AfPak - with attached "collateral damage" - should be expected.
A curious development is already visible. NATO is deliberately allowing Gaddafi forces to advance along the Mediterranean coast and repel the "rebels". There have been no surgical air strikes for quite a while.
The objective is possibly to extract political and economic concessions from the defector and Libyan exile-infested Interim National Council (INC) - a dodgy cast of characters including former Justice minister Mustafa Abdel Jalil, US-educated former secretary of planning Mahmoud Jibril, and former Virginia resident, new "military commander" and CIA asset Khalifa Hifter. The laudable, indigenous February 17 Youth movement - which was in the forefront of the Benghazi uprising - has been completely sidelined.
This is NATO's first African war, as Afghanistan is NATO's first Central/South Asian war. Now firmly configured as the UN's weaponized arm, Globocop NATO is on a roll implementing its "strategic concept" approved at the Lisbon summit last November (see Welcome to NATOstan, Asia Times Online, November 20, 2010).
Gaddafi's Libya must be taken out so the Mediterranean - the mare nostrum of ancient Rome - becomes a NATO lake. Libya is the only nation in northern Africa not subordinated to Africom or Centcom or any one of the myriad NATO "partnerships". The other non-NATO-related African nations are Eritrea, Sawahiri Arab Democratic Republic, Sudan and Zimbabwe.
Moreover, two members of NATO's "Istanbul Cooperation Initiative" - Qatar and the United Arab Emirates - are now fighting alongside Africom/NATO for the fist time. Translation: NATO and Persian Gulf partners are fighting a war in Africa. Europe? That's too provincial. Globocop is the way to go.
According to the Obama administration's own official doublespeak, dictators who are eligible for "US outreach" - such as in Bahrain and Yemen - may relax, and get away with virtually anything. As for those eligible for "regime alteration", from Africa to the Middle East and Asia, watch out. Globocop NATO is coming to get you. With or without dirty deals.
Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007) and Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge. His new book, just out, is Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009).
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Show AllBravo. That any can still by the "This mission a Humanitarian One" is beyond me.
Yes ,contrary to what some want to believe , if one digs beneath the surface of any of these conflicts, the dirty hand of the United States Government is playing its usual role.
It the New Imperialism. All states are to be proxy states of the empire or will be destroyed. One more time. The people of the world had best pray that the US economy collapses or they will lead us to a World wide war.
Actually this is the end of the first part of World War III. The CorPro-Fascists headquartered in Washington DC have begun the mop up phase. Witness the public-union busting (USA) and the faux economic austerity campaigns all over.
Once the sheeple surrender, this phase is over.
The problem then remains – bringing onboard the BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India and China). That will be the mother of all end games
April Fools?
No, their not Fools, their serious!
If this were a Broadway Play or a Hollywood Movie (like 'Wag the Dog') the stage directions for the opening of Act 2 might read:
[Exit stage left the Egyptian revolutionary kids.
Enter stage right the global Emperor movingly reading from Tom Barnett's "The Pentagon's New Map"]
Emperor-president:
"Tonight, I’d like to update the American people on the international effort that we have led in Libya –- what we’ve done, what we plan to do, and why this matters to us.
I want to begin by paying tribute to our men and women in uniform who, once again, have acted with courage, professionalism and patriotism. They have moved with incredible speed and strength. Because of them and our dedicated diplomats, a coalition has been forged and countless lives have been saved.
Meanwhile, as we speak, our troops are supporting our ally Japan, leaving Iraq to its people, stopping the Taliban’s momentum in Afghanistan, and going after al Qaeda all across the globe. As Commander-in-Chief, I’m grateful to our soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, Coast Guardsmen, and to their families. And I know all Americans share in that sentiment.
For generations, the United States of America has played a unique role as an anchor of global security and as an advocate for human freedom. Mindful of the risks and costs of military action, we are naturally reluctant to use force to solve the world’s many challenges. But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. That’s what happened in Libya over the course of these last six weeks.
Libya sits directly between Tunisia and Egypt -– two nations that inspired the world when their people rose up to take control of their own destiny. For more than four decades, the Libyan people have been ruled by a tyrant -– Muammar Qaddafi. He has denied his people freedom, exploited their wealth, murdered opponents at home and abroad, and terrorized innocent people around the world –- including Americans who were killed by Libyan agents.
Last month, Qaddafi’s grip of fear appeared to give way to the promise of freedom. In cities and towns across the country, Libyans took to the streets to claim their basic human rights. As one Libyan said, “For the first time we finally have hope that our nightmare of 40 years will soon be over.”
Faced with this opposition, Qaddafi began attacking his people. As President, my immediate concern was the safety of our citizens, so we evacuated our embassy and all Americans who sought our assistance. Then we took a series of swift steps in a matter of days to answer Qaddafi’s aggression. We froze more than $33 billion of Qaddafi’s regime’s assets. Joining with other nations at the United Nations Security Council, we broadened our sanctions, imposed an arms embargo, and enabled Qaddafi and those around him to be held accountable for their crimes. I made it clear that Qaddafi had lost the confidence of his people and the legitimacy to lead, and I said that he needed to step down from power.
In the face of the world’s condemnation, Qaddafi chose to escalate his attacks, launching a military campaign against the Libyan people. Innocent people were targeted for killing. Hospitals and ambulances were attacked. Journalists were arrested, sexually assaulted, and killed. Supplies of food and fuel were choked off. Water for hundreds of thousands of people in Misurata was shut off. Cities and towns were shelled, mosques were destroyed, and apartment buildings reduced to rubble. Military jets and helicopter gunships were unleashed upon people who had no means to defend themselves against assaults from the air.
Confronted by this brutal repression and a looming humanitarian crisis, I ordered warships into the Mediterranean. European allies declared their willingness to commit resources to stop the killing. The Libyan opposition and the Arab League appealed to the world to save lives in Libya. And so at my direction, America led an effort with our allies at the United Nations Security Council to pass a historic resolution that authorized a no-fly zone to stop the regime’s attacks from the air, and further authorized all necessary measures to protect the Libyan people.
Ten days ago, having tried to end the violence without using force, the international community offered Qaddafi a final chance to stop his campaign of killing, or face the consequences. Rather than stand down, his forces continued their advance, bearing down on the city of Benghazi, home to nearly 700,000 men, women and children who sought their freedom from fear.
At this point, the United States and the world faced a choice. Qaddafi declared he would show “no mercy” to his own people. He compared them to rats, and threatened to go door to door to inflict punishment. In the past, we have seen him hang civilians in the streets, and kill over a thousand people in a single day. Now we saw regime forces on the outskirts of the city. We knew that if we wanted -- if we waited one more day, Benghazi, a city nearly the size of Charlotte, could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.
It was not in our national interest to let that happen. I refused to let that happen. And so nine days ago, after consulting the bipartisan leadership of Congress, I authorized military action to stop the killing and enforce U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973.
We struck regime forces approaching Benghazi to save that city and the people within it. We hit Qaddafi’s troops in neighboring Ajdabiya, allowing the opposition to drive them out. We hit Qaddafi’s air defenses, which paved the way for a no-fly zone. We targeted tanks and military assets that had been choking off towns and cities, and we cut off much of their source of supply. And tonight, I can report that we have stopped Qaddafi’s deadly advance.
In this effort, the United States has not acted alone. Instead, we have been joined by a strong and growing coalition. This includes our closest allies -– nations like the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Denmark, Norway, Italy, Spain, Greece, and Turkey –- all of whom have fought by our sides for decades. And it includes Arab partners like Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, who have chosen to meet their responsibilities to defend the Libyan people.
To summarize, then: In just one month, the United States has worked with our international partners to mobilize a broad coalition, secure an international mandate to protect civilians, stop an advancing army, prevent a massacre, and establish a no-fly zone with our allies and partners. To lend some perspective on how rapidly this military and diplomatic response came together, when people were being brutalized in Bosnia in the 1990s, it took the international community more than a year to intervene with air power to protect civilians. It took us 31 days.
Moreover, we’ve accomplished these objectives consistent with the pledge that I made to the American people at the outset of our military operations. I said that America’s role would be limited; that we would not put ground troops into Libya; that we would focus our unique capabilities on the front end of the operation and that we would transfer responsibility to our allies and partners. Tonight, we are fulfilling that pledge.
Our most effective alliance, NATO, has taken command of the enforcement of the arms embargo and the no-fly zone. Last night, NATO decided to take on the additional responsibility of protecting Libyan civilians. This transfer from the United States to NATO will take place on Wednesday. Going forward, the lead in enforcing the no-fly zone and protecting civilians on the ground will transition to our allies and partners, and I am fully confident that our coalition will keep the pressure on Qaddafi’s remaining forces.
In that effort, the United States will play a supporting role -- including intelligence, logistical support, search and rescue assistance, and capabilities to jam regime communications. Because of this transition to a broader, NATO-based coalition, the risk and cost of this operation -- to our military and to American taxpayers -- will be reduced significantly.
So for those who doubted our capacity to carry out this operation, I want to be clear: The United States of America has done what we said we would do.
That’s not to say that our work is complete. In addition to our NATO responsibilities, we will work with the international community to provide assistance to the people of Libya, who need food for the hungry and medical care for the wounded. We will safeguard the more than $33 billion that was frozen from the Qaddafi regime so that it’s available to rebuild Libya. After all, the money doesn’t belong to Qaddafi or to us -- it belongs to the Libyan people. And we’ll make sure they receive it.
Tomorrow, Secretary Clinton will go to London, where she will meet with the Libyan opposition and consult with more than 30 nations. These discussions will focus on what kind of political effort is necessary to pressure Qaddafi, while also supporting a transition to the future that the Libyan people deserve -- because while our military mission is narrowly focused on saving lives, we continue to pursue the broader goal of a Libya that belongs not to a dictator, but to its people.
Now, despite the success of our efforts over the past week, I know that some Americans continue to have questions about our efforts in Libya. Qaddafi has not yet stepped down from power, and until he does, Libya will remain dangerous. Moreover, even after Qaddafi does leave power, 40 years of tyranny has left Libya fractured and without strong civil institutions. The transition to a legitimate government that is responsive to the Libyan people will be a difficult task. And while the United States will do our part to help, it will be a task for the international community and –- more importantly –- a task for the Libyan people themselves.
In fact, much of the debate in Washington has put forward a false choice when it comes to Libya. On the one hand, some question why America should intervene at all -– even in limited ways –- in this distant land. They argue that there are many places in the world where innocent civilians face brutal violence at the hands of their government, and America should not be expected to police the world, particularly when we have so many pressing needs here at home.
It’s true that America cannot use our military wherever repression occurs. And given the costs and risks of intervention, we must always measure our interests against the need for action. But that cannot be an argument for never acting on behalf of what’s right. In this particular country -– Libya -- at this particular moment, we were faced with the prospect of violence on a horrific scale. We had a unique ability to stop that violence: an international mandate for action, a broad coalition prepared to join us, the support of Arab countries, and a plea for help from the Libyan people themselves. We also had the ability to stop Qaddafi’s forces in their tracks without putting American troops on the ground.
To brush aside America’s responsibility as a leader and -– more profoundly -– our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are. Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different. And as President, I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.
Moreover, America has an important strategic interest in preventing Qaddafi from overrunning those who oppose him. A massacre would have driven thousands of additional refugees across Libya’s borders, putting enormous strains on the peaceful –- yet fragile -– transitions in Egypt and Tunisia. The democratic impulses that are dawning across the region would be eclipsed by the darkest form of dictatorship, as repressive leaders concluded that violence is the best strategy to cling to power. The writ of the United Nations Security Council would have been shown to be little more than empty words, crippling that institution’s future credibility to uphold global peace and security. So while I will never minimize the costs involved in military action, I am convinced that a failure to act in Libya would have carried a far greater price for America.
Now, just as there are those who have argued against intervention in Libya, there are others who have suggested that we broaden our military mission beyond the task of protecting the Libyan people, and do whatever it takes to bring down Qaddafi and usher in a new government.
Of course, there is no question that Libya -– and the world –- would be better off with Qaddafi out of power. I, along with many other world leaders, have embraced that goal, and will actively pursue it through non-military means. But broadening our military mission to include regime change would be a mistake.
The task that I assigned our forces -– to protect the Libyan people from immediate danger, and to establish a no-fly zone -– carries with it a U.N. mandate and international support. It’s also what the Libyan opposition asked us to do. If we tried to overthrow Qaddafi by force, our coalition would splinter. We would likely have to put U.S. troops on the ground to accomplish that mission, or risk killing many civilians from the air. The dangers faced by our men and women in uniform would be far greater. So would the costs and our share of the responsibility for what comes next.
To be blunt, we went down that road in Iraq. Thanks to the extraordinary sacrifices of our troops and the determination of our diplomats, we are hopeful about Iraq’s future. But regime change there took eight years, thousands of American and Iraqi lives, and nearly a trillion dollars. That is not something we can afford to repeat in Libya.
As the bulk of our military effort ratchets down, what we can do -- and will do -- is support the aspirations of the Libyan people. We have intervened to stop a massacre, and we will work with our allies and partners to maintain the safety of civilians. We will deny the regime arms, cut off its supplies of cash, assist the opposition, and work with other nations to hasten the day when Qaddafi leaves power. It may not happen overnight, as a badly weakened Qaddafi tries desperately to hang on to power. But it should be clear to those around Qaddafi, and to every Libyan, that history is not on Qaddafi’s side. With the time and space that we have provided for the Libyan people, they will be able to determine their own destiny, and that is how it should be.
Let me close by addressing what this action says about the use of America’s military power, and America’s broader leadership in the world, under my presidency.
As Commander-in-Chief, I have no greater responsibility than keeping this country safe. And no decision weighs on me more than when to deploy our men and women in uniform. I’ve made it clear that I will never hesitate to use our military swiftly, decisively, and unilaterally when necessary to defend our people, our homeland, our allies and our core interests. That's why we’re going after al Qaeda wherever they seek a foothold. That is why we continue to fight in Afghanistan, even as we have ended our combat mission in Iraq and removed more than 100,000 troops from that country.
There will be times, though, when our safety is not directly threatened, but our interests and our values are. Sometimes, the course of history poses challenges that threaten our common humanity and our common security -– responding to natural disasters, for example; or preventing genocide and keeping the peace; ensuring regional security, and maintaining the flow of commerce. These may not be America’s problems alone, but they are important to us. They’re problems worth solving. And in these circumstances, we know that the United States, as the world’s most powerful nation, will often be called upon to help.
In such cases, we should not be afraid to act -– but the burden of action should not be America’s alone. As we have in Libya, our task is instead to mobilize the international community for collective action. Because contrary to the claims of some, American leadership is not simply a matter of going it alone and bearing all of the burden ourselves. Real leadership creates the conditions and coalitions for others to step up as well; to work with allies and partners so that they bear their share of the burden and pay their share of the costs; and to see that the principles of justice and human dignity are upheld by all.
That’s the kind of leadership we’ve shown in Libya. Of course, even when we act as part of a coalition, the risks of any military action will be high. Those risks were realized when one of our planes malfunctioned over Libya. Yet when one of our airmen parachuted to the ground, in a country whose leader has so often demonized the United States –- in a region that has such a difficult history with our country –- this American did not find enemies. Instead, he was met by people who embraced him. One young Libyan who came to his aid said, “We are your friends. We are so grateful to those men who are protecting the skies.”
This voice is just one of many in a region where a new generation is refusing to be denied their rights and opportunities any longer.
Yes, this change will make the world more complicated for a time. Progress will be uneven, and change will come differently to different countries. There are places, like Egypt, where this change will inspire us and raise our hopes. And then there will be places, like Iran, where change is fiercely suppressed. The dark forces of civil conflict and sectarian war will have to be averted, and difficult political and economic concerns will have to be addressed.
The United States will not be able to dictate the pace and scope of this change. Only the people of the region can do that. But we can make a difference.
I believe that this movement of change cannot be turned back, and that we must stand alongside those who believe in the same core principles that have guided us through many storms: our opposition to violence directed at one’s own people; our support for a set of universal rights, including the freedom for people to express themselves and choose their leaders; our support for governments that are ultimately responsive to the aspirations of the people.
Born, as we are, out of a revolution by those who longed to be free, we welcome the fact that history is on the move in the Middle East and North Africa, and that young people are leading the way. Because wherever people long to be free, they will find a friend in the United States. Ultimately, it is that faith -- those ideals -- that are the true measure of American leadership.
My fellow Americans, I know that at a time of upheaval overseas -- when the news is filled with conflict and change -- it can be tempting to turn away from the world. And as I’ve said before, our strength abroad is anchored in our strength here at home. That must always be our North Star -- the ability of our people to reach their potential, to make wise choices with our resources, to enlarge the prosperity that serves as a wellspring for our power, and to live the values that we hold so dear.
But let us also remember that for generations, we have done the hard work of protecting our own people, as well as millions around the globe. We have done so because we know that our own future is safer, our own future is brighter, if more of mankind can live with the bright light of freedom and dignity.
Tonight, let us give thanks for the Americans who are serving through these trying times, and the coalition that is carrying our effort forward. And let us look to the future with confidence and hope not only for our own country, but for all those yearning for freedom around the world.
Thank you. God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America. (Applause.) Thank you."
[Global faux-Emperor-president, Obama, exits Stage left carefully avoiding the terms; "Gap" territories, "Leviathan", "Old Core", "Oil" and most particularly "global Empire".
Drop curtain, and 'Hope' audience buys the cast 'Change' compared to the 'too crude', "us/them" actor previously playing part of faux-Emperor-president in the earlier 'off-Broadway' trial run 2001 to 2008 ]
Alan MacDonald
Liberty & democracy over violent empire -- People's Party 2012
Thanks for the verbatim trip down memory lane, Alan. To the list of buzz words President left unspoken you should add "AFRICOM"
Bill from Saginaw
What an important journalist. Thank you!
Pepe Escobar with the afterburner on.
Talk about a deal with the Devil! The Saudis should be ashamed of themselves.
q
Whatever- like the House of Saud hasn't been in league with the devil from the beginning.
Sorry that the irony was lost on you.
q
More sardonic rather than ironic, but touche and I'm glad that you are "eyes wide open" :)
The realists need to get real.
Insightful!
Thanks for the link to Asian Times on "War Bidness"
Looks like the global Empire already has their hard-on for this "Gap" war across the claimed "Crescent of Unrest" --- which is really the "Crescent of Oil and Arms Booty".
Best,
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Liberty & democracy over violent empire -- People's Party 2012
Very encouraging and supportive to see someone as attuned as Escobar referring similarly to "regime alteration, from Africa to the Middle East and Asia" as both the old CIA-connected 'journalist' Bob Woodward, and I myself refer to Thomas Barnett's 2004 Naval War College war planning book, "The Pentagon's New Map" refers to the 5000 mile swath from Mauritania to the Afpak boarders with India and China.
We're starting to see broader discussion on this hidden scheme for absorbing the "Gap" countries into virtual global Empire of the "Old Core" (by which cute term Barnett more politely refers to the US, UK, Israel, etc).
Today other investigative journalists and strategic analysts seem to be researching along these fruitful vines of these newly growing war plans before the hardy vines grow any faster in the sandy soil from N. Africa thru the Middle East and all the way to . ...
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Liberty & democracy over violent empire -- People's Party 2012
amacd -
And for an added background twist, don't forget that supposedly one of the other great gentlemens' agreements of the immediate post-Cold War era was the deal between George H W Bush and Gorby: we promise to never expand NATO, if you promise to keep hands off the reunification of Germany.
Well, the Russians at least kept their end of the bargain.
Bill from Saginaw
All those who maintained from the beginning (like myself) that the US government can NEVER be trusted, have now been shown to be correct, while the nattering nabobs of "no this is different" have been shown to be gullible dupes of US propaganda - again!
LOL he said "nattering nabobs"- I like that!
Is that the best you can do? Doesn't it obviously show the "degraded" thinking of a "belligerent white supremacist bigot", who, of course, doesn't deserve "a break"?*
*Quotation marks refer to quotations of rbwtl directed at me.
You can always be counted on to raise the tone, can't you?
Thanks.
RE: BTW: If you don't like being called a belligerant white supremacist bigot, stop acting like one.
Can you spell out how exactly I have been acting like "belligerent white supremacist bigot"? I challenge you - seriously - to point out anything in any of my posts that deserves this epithet.
BTW: "nattering nabob" is a good line (actually written by speechwriter William Safire). Lots of good lines come from not so good people. I am simply re-purposing it for a more appropriate target than Agnew's (i.e. anti-war activists). Outside of the Hindi definition, nabob means: "a person of wealth and prominence." These kind of people also tend to be pro-"humanitarian intervention" liberals. Rather than post a truly petty criticism (totally missing the point of my post), you should appreciate it.
RE: ...I simply do not care.
Yup!
'Readbe...' - with that long list of 'undesirables' by you, I'd guess that pretty much leaves only you, huh?
Btw, it's "belligerent", not "belligerant" - as you certainly should know!
(I do appreciate the suggested pun of "belligerent rant" contracted to "belligerant" - only it didn't seem intentional).
Lighten up guy! Go slagging those who deserve it. You're too well informed and useful to us others here with your views, to discredit yourself by undue belligerence. Pls don't do ad hominems, but direct your ire where it's called for: at the sordid topics we discuss. Do tell us some more about e.g. Obama - as seen from "a yankee abroad"!
Ha-ha. Gotta love you...
When you're like this to those who actually like you (the little I know of you - I had no idea of yr gender or origins, and used 'guy' as an all-inclusive term... and 'yank' was jokularily used for all of US - with yr PhD you surely recognized the humorous, self-deprecating literary ref) - I certainly wouldn't want to know how you are to those who don't like you. Scary thought. (Oooo, you I'd want on MY side. And I'm happy to have learned you largely are - politically, at least...)
Now please don't slap me when I say "Peace" to you. "Peace" is actually a quite desirable state. It has to be made by every person, just like justice - for everyone.
If you find every friendly suggestion 'patronizing', how do you stay open to all the love that your obvious intelligence attracts to you?
Don't hate me too much for it, but your paradoxicallity (and I won't mention gender... the guy said, self-contradictorily) makes me even more fascinated with you. You're smart, guy! - and I just love that. And don't worry, you can scare me off a reply to you as easy as any butterfly - so no need for a try.
That's all for today. Thanks for the laughs! - Have a satisfying day. If you can't be good, at least be happy.
At the risk of achieving the opposite: think happy thoughts. Yes, it's facile. But it also works.
Now I wonder, does any of this appeal to your humor? - I certainly hope so. What makes you laugh, then?
"There was this old man in Peru
who dreamt he had eaten his shoe
He woke in the night
in a terrible fright
and found it was perfectly true"
PS. As luck had it, too
his neighbor had lost one leg out of two
to a landmine lost to view
- so he was happy to receive
the remaining shoe
Later:
The man complained to his friend
he'd been dreaming all night again
this time that he was eating flannel-cakes
Long they pondered the mystery of 'flannel-cakes'
"And that's not the only mystery," the dreamer said
"When I woke in the morning
the bedspread was gone!"
Stupid, I know.
Still worth a mood-lifting giggle?
Peace. - Or at least never mind.
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Ummm- sorry? I am not of age sufficient to recognize ANYTHING that would have been pronounced by Spiro Agnew. I don't know what the phrase means, or if it even has a real meaning,
There are many people who peruse this site, and there are many "agendas" that some bring. I have (and still do) used it as a learning experience; to seek real truth and re-educate myself- that is to say learn to discern what is and has been going on vs the programming that was instilled by the education system in the usa. I try to pass it on to others who I come in contact with as well.
So, no- no degrading pronouncements of Spiro Agnew have been enshrined here!
This is my first encounter with the phrase, so I would guess there is no associated "legacy". Your underestimation of the "ignorance of the US public" is overestimating the influence of Spiro Agnew in our history books.
"You don't have history books in the US. You have fairy tales."
Yes- I agree with that. It is why I am un-learning and deprogramming myself from all of it. You might just hate all of us for whatever reason(s) you deem desirable. But, I will tell you this; I would rather be in Mexico, subjected to your sharp tounged lashings for not being up to your speed, or your ideals, rather than have to spend a single minute of whatever time I have on the face of this earth trapped in involuntary service (taxpayer) to this evil, pernicious empire.
It's medical issues and my daughter and my family that keep me here, for now anyway.
Is it really just a matter of going somewhere and you can stay? I guess I would not be surprised that the adage in fashion concerning "illegal" Mexicans here (apparently, "they" can come here, but "we'd" be in mortal danger and imprisoned if caught staying there) is probably bull manure until they get that wall built- to keep people IN.
And, no m'am, you aren't forcing me to stay here, but you are seriously getting me to find out how to LEAVE!
Excerpt from "Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong" by James W. Loewen, The New Press 1995 p 295 (last chapter)
“Feel-good history for affluent white males inevitably amounts to feel-bad history for everyone else. A student of mine, who was practice-teaching in Swanton, Vermont, a town with a considerable Indian population, noticed an Abenaki fifth grader obviously tuning out when he brought up the subject of Thanksgiving. Talking with the child brought forth the following reaction: “My father told me the real truth about that day and not to listen to any white man scum like you.!” Yet Thanksgiving seems reasonably benign compared to, say, Columbus Day.”
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While you are still here or even after your departure you might consider some of these reading suggestions:
1. “Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong" by James W. Loewen
2. A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn
The first of these two books is shorter and in my opinion both books are worth the read.
readbetweenthe_lines might also recommend two books by the Standing Rock Sioux author Vine Deloria.
1. “Custer Died for Your Sins: An Indian Manifesto” by Vine Deloria (reportedly his most famous work)
2. “Red Earth, White Lies” by Vine Deloria (Deloria argues in this book that the Bering land bridge never existed.)
I have not read either of these two books by Deloria and in fact I only recently learned from readbetweenthe_lines that Vine Deloria even existed. Having said that from what I have read about the two books I think “Custer Died for Your Sins” would be my first choice.
readbetweenthe_lines has cited “Red Earth, White Lies” in her typical ad hominem style to bash another person posting here by the name Mairead, who had made four mistakes: 1) To claim that part of her own ancestry traces back to Redcoating Scots taking Indian wifes; 2) To speak in a way that suggested some of the inherited features were undesirable (I happen to like high cheek bones); 3) Citing the Bering land bridge in support of an argument that readbetweenthe_lines didn’t like; and 4) To talk or to put it more accurately to write like a white person.
Now, I admit that is a lot of mistakes to make. But I believe, although I can't be sure without further "research" in that thread, that the ad hominem attacks started with Mairead's Bering land bridge reference.
Citing Vine Doloria readbetweenthe_lines claimed that if there had been a Bering land bridge then it would have had to have been a one way bridge with people and animals crossing from Asia to North American but not traveling the other way. This, of course, would be crazy if true. readbetweenthe_lines claimed there was no evidence of people or animals crossing from North America to Asia. However the evidence supports movement in both directions.
See for instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia for a convenient reference.
Beringia (The Bering land bridge)
“Land animals were able to migrate through Beringia as well, bringing mammals that evolved in Asia to North America, mammals such as proboscideans and lions, which evolved into now-extinct endemic North American species, and allowing equids and camelids that evolved in North America (and later became extinct there) to migrate to Asia”
Years ago I read somewhere that an Indian tribe took pains to “permanently” bury an archeological site on their land that had no particular religious or other sacred significance. The explanation offered, for this abrupt and unexpected action, by those intending to study the site was that the site contained further evidence supporting the previous existence of the Bering land bridge.
Some American Indians apparently feel that the existence of the Bering land bridge undermines their claim to North and South America.
Of course, readbetweenthe_lines can claim that the scientific evidence and the news and analysis report regarding the archeological site are all part of a racist conspiracy. But she will in my opinion need to present more evidence in support of this assertion in order to convincingly demonstrate this claim. At that time I may be converted to her point of view or even inspired to read “Red Earth, White Lies”.
Hopefully, one way or other, readbetweenthe _lines can provide you with her own recommendations to assist your efforts in straightening out your understanding of American history.
If you happen to read "Red Earth, White Lies" and find the evidence Vine Doloria offers credible, please let us know.
I wouldn’t worry too much about never having heard of Spiro Agnew, however. I grew up in northern Virginia while Agnew was governor of Maryland and then Vice President. But I expect that you are right. I wouldn't think that Mr. Agnew would be featured prominently in main stream American history books.
The opinions of General William C. Westmoreland, who commanded US military operations in the Vietnam War at its peak (1964–68), provide another obscure detail illustrating American racism around the same time that Spiro Agnew was doing his thing politically in Maryland.
A while ago I learned that an acquaintance my age with similar political inclinations but who has a particularly strong interest in the Vietnam War era did not remember or perhaps had never heard what General William C. Westmoreland had said about “Orientals”.
I remember it well, however. Westmoreland said, that the "oriental doesn’t value life in the same way as a westerner." I guess Westmoreland felt that people in the United States would feel a little bit better about the butchery committed by the U.S. military in their name knowing this important "fact".
But documentation of this statement and Westmoreland’s racism is hard to find even on the web. Here is an excerpt from the International Socialist Review.
Vietnam: The war the U.S. lost (From the Overthrow of Diem to the Tet Offensive)
Article URL: www.isreview.org/issues/33/vietnam2.shtml
“The Vietnamese people were subjected to the virulent racism of the occupying
American army. The Vietnamese people were regularly referred to as "gooks," "slants" and "dinks" by American troops. It’s important to remember that this racism started with the top brass. General Westmoreland believed that the ‘oriental doesn’t value life in the same way as a westerner.’”
In short even in the absence of considerable propaganda we cannot know everything.
In fact some people might argue that the very phrase “know everything” is at least from an epistemological point of view a contradiction in terms.
¡Buen viaje!
I knew I could count on you to intercede and make some helpful contributions here.
And I mean that sincerely.
For instance, I had forgotten that either you or someone else had mentioned on Common Dreams somewhere, something about Ward Churchill and Columbus Day. I believe that the book I cited in my previous post in this thread also does a good job describing the brutality of Columbus, which I suspect is the subject of the essay in the Ward Churchill Reader you mentioned.
Your comment about the Abenaki and possible migrations from Europe many thousands of years ago is also interesting. I first read somewhere years ago about speculation of Viking incursions further inland than what I had originally learned about in public school as a kid. Do you know if the Abenaki speculate at all about where in Europe the migrations you have referred to may have originated?
My Spanish isn’t very good, but if you could post a link to the article in La Jornada that would be helpful to me and possibly to sLiMsHaDy. For one thing if sLiMsHaDy isn’t already fluent in Spanish, I would think that sLiMsHaDy should try to learn some Spanish before moving to Mexico.
Also, are you familiar with Lila Downs?
Lila Downs is a singer of mixed Mexican Indian and Gringo descent who sings in Spanish, English, and an indigenous language the name of which I cannot remember. She has put out a number of albums on CD. My favorite is titled “La Linea / Border” because of the political nature of the lyrics and the skillful fusion of different styles of music which includes at times the use of indigenous instruments. The album is dedicated to people who try to make the dangerous crossing of the border from Mexico into the United States. Sorry, about my rambling.
More to the point I am sure that you know that evidence about how long native people have been in the Western Hemisphere is only part of the evidence used to figure out when and how they got here. Very important evidence to be sure.
In any case, the question regarding the type of claim that native people have to land in North and South America involves more than just when they arrived.
But one way or the other there is no, or at least should be no, question that native people have a right to be here. Even asking that question is absurd
I really don’t have any vested interest in any theory regarding how native people came to the Western hemisphere. But I am nevertheless interested in knowing how native people came to the Western hemisphere. And as you have now pointed out in this thread there may have been more than one route.
Please consider this a direct request for a reading list of Native American writers.
My I ask that you post it here in this thread for me, and of course for sLiMsHaDy, just in case sLiMsHaDy drops by here again.
But I expect a more active thread would also be a nice place to offer such a list. Maybe you have done that before.
If a direct request is also required for you to post such a list elsewhere, I will try to track you down, as you might say, and make such a request, but only one more time. After all, I would hope that you would help the rest of us learn more about the history and contemporary culture of indigenous people in the Americas, or at least Turtle Island, without all the formality.
One of the nice things about Common Dreams or any other place on the web which is like Common Dreams, is that anyone can just post their thoughts and participate with others here, within certain limits regarding behavior of course, without worrying about asking permission to cut in.
This isn’t ballroom dancing in thirties and forties after all.
Thanks for the list.
I was thinking. I know its shocking.
Any way more comments later.
While I won't tread in the midst of the "conversations" between posters in this sub-thread, I absolutlely appreciate and thank you for the literature recommendations and other insights- more than I could have even hoped to receive.
Great advice- it's best to have a place to GO to rather than run FROM. I also wonder (after an enjoyable time away from taking medication) if the prescription drugs atht they say I need, aren't actually worse than the problem! I'll have to sort that out for myself, I reckon.
Thanks again.
If you can find anything on this list that we are NOT doing, please let me know.
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Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
5-28-3
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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I discussed this at length in some of my blog entries.
http://steveosborn.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-is-fascism-really.html
http://steveosborn.blogspot.com/2010/03/our-fairly-subtle-conversion-to-fascism.html
http://steveosborn.blogspot.com/2010/03/kucinich-votes-yes-whats-new.html
I fear it may be too late unless we listen to Jefferson.
“The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”
Thomas Jefferson
1743-1826
The Constitution is incapable of tying the government of the USA down. It is a criminal government; a monster that needs to be cut into pieces; divided so that the people can rule through their Constitution. The USA is too big to succeed.
The USA is the world's biggest problem. The US'n people must wield the chain- saw. They won't until they are starving. Let it be. By not thinking they have brought it on themselves. Sadly,
Confucius said the same as Jefferson re the blood of patriots and tyrants. His emphasis on the function of government was likewise that it is for the people, not for government.
Good post. We are reaching the point of no return. With a corrupt Supreme Court this country is under more threat then during the civil war. With the legal bribery of legislators the only real thing we can do is push hard for public financing of election campaigns.
Not so sure about #5. Instead it can act as a red herring.
Forget the blood, focus on the sweat and tears.
Constitutional Convention, folks.
That's the solution.
To the Second Republic!
Hello NED
The Saudis recently recieved a $5 billion weapons conctract from the US.
So who profited from this deal? Every senator who has a local weapons subcontractor contributing to thieir senate campaign fund..
This article was mis-categorized in the daily email from Common Dreams. The article is not news, it is "Views" -- op-ed.
It is not necessary to agree or disagree with the author. Objectively the article was an op-ed piece. It is loaded with speculation alongside objective facts. Pure news journalism reports only what factually "is" and doesn't engage in speculation. If an article engages in speculation, it is an op-ed piece.
This is not to say that the article does not include some objective factual information. That is almost a requirement of an argumentative essay in order to provide some credence to the argument.
Again, this has nothing to do with agreeing or disagree with the author's comments. It is only about objectively clarifying that the article is not journalistic "news", it is an op-ed piece that engages in subjective speculation. The author may ultimately be proven to be right or wrong about the speculation, but regardless it remains speculation.
Wouldn't it be great if the world or humanity had any relation to the teachings of Journalism School?
When democracy was functioning well in this country, and where it still functions reasonably well in other places today, what one finds is a myriad of "news" sources that are as "properly" op-ed as you label this piece.
One would know that one paper was for the Democrats, or the Socialists, or Labor in general, or the City elite in specific. From reading the various takes on the objective facts that one saw in these various sources, one could make a better informed decision as to the true nature of things and one's own leanings in reaction than one can make today from our allegedly "objective" and "balanced" sources.
The former and more successful system relied upon the discretion and intellect of the reader, while the current and quite corrupted system relies upon the discretion and intellect of Journalism School professors.
Your post remains true in every point, yet undermines -when seen in the light of history not the darkness of ideology- the value-sytem that you seem to adhere to!
Ain't that fun?
-matti.
kburgoyne -
Part of Pepe Escobar's approach to journalism includes quoting foreign intelligence or diplomatic sources on deep background, like this article. As long as the reader can discern that the unnamed source probably has a nationalistic axe or two to grind, what's the big deal? The front, hard news pages of the NY Times, the Wall Street Journal, and WaPo quote unidentified US intelligence, State Department, and White House sources almost every day.
For a taste of Escobar's prior work, check out the Asia Online website some time. Look up in the archives Pepe's submission from late August, 2001 about Osama bin Laden. Most of the sources appear to be Pakistani and Indian intelligence folks, but it captures a moment in pre-9/11 history in a great snapshot. Gives you a whole different take on how "fair and balanced" journalism can be defined.
My guess is Escobar's UN/Arab League sources for this current article are disgruntled Arab League members. The truth or falsity of the story remains to be seen. Or buried, if the mainstream media choose to do so (like they do with much of Escobar's work).
Bill from Saginaw
Libya doesn't have that much oil, not as much as Iraq for example, it is only somewhat vital to America's "interests" so our involvement is only air strikes. That is why the US admin. only wants limited involvement, because there is limited amounts of oil. "Boots on the ground" in Iraq, no "boots on the ground" in Libya, says it all.
From what i have gleaned on this, it is the quality of the oil there and the inexpensive extraction.
Oil isn't the only reason to privatize* Libya.
"In 1953, the search for new oilfields in the deserts of southern Libya led to the discovery not only of the significant oil reserves, but also vast quantities of fresh water trapped in the underlying strata."
http://www.water-technology.net/projects/gmr/
*Privatize: to plunder: to loot: to steal, esp. a natural resource or public property.
gw...'It the New Imperialism. All states are to be proxy states of the empire or will be destroyed. One more time. The people of the world had best pray that the US economy collapses or they will lead us to a World wide war.'
Nope.. World Government.. which will, if it's still of any account by then, partly consist of americans. Certainly not, either way, of 'americans only'!
It should not come as a surprise if, by some totally unexpected chance, all Libyans ban together to get the foreigners out. These young people have no notion of what it is, to live under foreign domination.
The first lesson of history is that people generally do not learn from history. The Libyans should learn from the Native Americans, Vietnamese, Africans and others the folly of inviting outsiders with a distinguished history or predations and thievery to invade over local quarrels. Some Libyans might win their battle but all Libyan shall surely lose the war.
Any leader who does not fall into the western secular orbit is called a brutal dictator. Libya was a totally backward backwater under King Iris the western stooge until Kaddafi brought the country around. Only a fool will debate that. Do a good search on the standard of living index of Libyans compared to other countries including the USA. We are now finding out AGAIN that those reported massacres in Libya were a pack of lies.
Why do folk still fall for such perennial rubbish despite the constellations of lies they have discovered to be false. perhaps an undercurrent of white supremacy bs? Dictatorship?, last time I checked we are told Obama is amassing a chest of $1 billion for his 2012 campaign. The ultimate proof of absolute corporate dictatorship. One cannot in good faith throw the dictator pejorative around without introspection regarding what is happening in their own US backyard. If one routinely calls Mubarak, Saleh, Saud Family, Bahrain rulers etc dictators, what will you call their patrons. Silence?. Its so easy to pick on easy targets.
How will the US government reacts to a US armed insurrection by its citizens? Ha, in the USA you need a permit to demonstrate, correct?. What a joke
Even powerless citizens/ families are not spared the lash. What happened to ,John Brown, Haymarket massacre, Move and John Africa in Philadelphia. what happened in Waco. what happened in Ruby Ridge, Kent State......I still have images of the bloated black bodies Hurricane Katarinas victims amid government foot dragging There come a time when ignorance of readily available fact and history becomes pretense. Any freedom loving and thinking human should be totally allergic to western interventions. They habitually exploit and perpetuate divisions for their gain. Go ask the Native American, Africans, Iraqis and Vietnamese
South Sudan, Somalia, Gaza, Northern Uganda, Haiti, , West Papua, and the Congo(5 million dead and counting) have been laboring under inscrutable savagery for decades, where are these opportunistic humanitarians? These same humanitarian interventionist countries are indeed directly responsible for the woes of these prey and beleaguered nations especially in the case of Gaza, Congo, Haiti and Rwanda before what is called the genocide.
According to UNICEF and others who monitor such, 22,000 children, essentially in African and South Asia are estimated to die EVERY DAY due to poverty. Why? the answers will be found in the underground bunkers of the IMF, World Bank. G8 and Bilderbeg secret meeting, WTO and other western controlled entities were trade and global financial deathly decisions are made. They are suffocating the economies of over overexploited nations aka 3rd world countries, through debts, trade barrier and restrictions, coersive preferential treatment ......(http://www.peaceandjustice.it/f09-film.php) These cabals, not surprisingly the greatest advocates of intervention, be it humanitarian(post colonial missionary role) or military. The devil always find work.