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BP Dispersants 'Causing Sickness'
Two-year-old Gavin Tillman of Pass Christian, Mississippi, has been diagnosed with severe upper respiratory, sinus, and viral infections. His temperature has reached more than 39 degrees since September 15, yet his sicknesses continues to worsen.
Injected with at least 4.9 million barrels of oil during the BP oil disaster of last summer, the Gulf has suffered the largest accidental marine oil spill in history. Compounding the problem, BP has admitted to using at least 1.9 million gallons of widely banned toxic dispersants, which according to chemist Bob Naman, create an even more toxic substance when mixed with crude oil. And dispersed, weathered oil continues to flow ashore daily. His parents, some doctors, and environmental consultants believe the
child's ailments are linked to exposure to chemicals spilt by BP during
its Gulf of Mexico oil disaster.
Gavin's father, mother, and cousin, Shayleigh, are also facing serious health problems. Their symptoms are being experienced by many others living along the coast of the Gulf of Mexico.
Widely banned toxic dispersants
Injected with at least 4.9 million barrels of oil during the BP oil disaster of last summer, the Gulf has suffered the largest accidental marine oil spill in history. Compounding the problem, BP has admitted to using at least 1.9 million gallons of widely banned toxic dispersants, which according to chemist Bob Naman, create an even more toxic substance when mixed with crude oil. And dispersed, weathered oil continues to flow ashore daily.
Naman, who works at the Analytical Chemical Testing Lab in Mobile, Alabama, has been carrying out studies to search for the chemical markers of the dispersants BP used to both sink and break up its oil.
According to Naman, poly-aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) from this toxic mix are making people sick. PAHs contain compounds that have been identified as carcinogenic, mutagenic, and teratogenic.
Fisherman across the four states most heavily affected by the oil disaster - Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida - have reported seeing BP spray dispersants from aircraft and boats offshore.
"The dispersants are being added to the water and are causing chemical compounds to become water soluble, which is then given off into the air, so it is coming down as rain, in addition to being in the water and beaches of these areas of the Gulf," Naman added.
"I'm scared of what I'm finding. These cyclic compounds intermingle with the Corexit [dispersants] and generate other cyclic compounds that aren't good. Many have double bonds, and many are on the EPA's danger list. This is an unprecedented environmental catastrophe."
Commercial fisherman Donny Matsler also lives in Alabama.
"I was with my friend Albert, and we were both slammed with exposure," Matsler explained of his experience on August 5, referring to toxic chemicals he inhaled that he believes are associated with BP's dispersants. "We both saw the clumps of white bubbles on the surface that we know come from the dispersed oil."
Gruesome symptoms
"I started to vomit brown, and my pee was brown also," Matsler, a Vietnam veteran who lives in Dauphin Island, said. "I kept that up all day. Then I had a night of sweating and non-stop diarrhea unlike anything I've ever experienced."
He was also suffering from skin rashes, nausea, and a sore throat.
At roughly the same time Matsler was exposed, local television station WKRG News 5 took a water sample from his area to test for dispersants. The sample literally exploded when it was mixed with an organic solvent separating the oil from the water.
Naman, the chemist who analyzed the sample, said: "We think that it most likely happened due to the presence of either methanol or methane gas or the presence of the dispersant Corexit."
"I'm still feeling terrible," Matsler told Al Jazeera recently. "I'm about to go to the doctor again right now. I'm short of breath, the diarrhea has been real bad, I still have discoloration in my urine, and the day before yesterday, I was coughing up white foam with brown spots in it."
As for Matsler's physical reaction to his exposure, Hugh Kaufman, an EPA whistleblower and analyst, has reported this of the effects of the toxic dispersants:
"We have dolphins that are hemorrhaging. People who work near it are hemorrhaging internally. And that's what dispersants are supposed to do..."
By the middle of last summer, the Alabama Department of Public Health said that 56 people in Mobile and Baldwin counties had sought treatment for what they believed were oil disaster-related illnesses.
"The dispersants used in BP's draconian experiment contain solvents such as petroleum distillates and 2-butoxyethanol," Dr. Riki Ott, a toxicologist, marine biologist, and Exxon Valdez survivor, told Al Jazeera. "Solvents dissolve oil, grease, and rubber," she continued, "Spill responders have told me that the hard rubber impellors in their engines and the soft rubber bushings on their outboard motor pumps are falling apart and need frequent replacement."
"Given this evidence, it should be no surprise that solvents are also notoriously toxic to people, something the medical community has long known," Dr. Ott added.
"In 'Generations at Risk', medical doctor Ted Schettler and others warn that solvents can rapidly enter the human body. They evaporate in air and are easily inhaled, they penetrate skin easily, and they cross the placenta into fetuses. For example, 2- butoxyethanol (in Corexit) is a human health hazard substance; it is a fetal toxin and it breaks down blood cells, causing blood and kidney disorders."
Pathways of exposure to the dispersants are inhalation, ingestion, skin, and eye contact. Health impacts include headaches, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pains, chest pains, respiratory system damage, skin sensitization, hypertension, central nervous system depression, neurotoxic effects, genetic mutations, cardiac arrhythmia, and cardiovascular damage.
Even the federal government has taken precautions for its employees. US military officials decided to reroute training flights in the Gulf region in order to avoid oil and dispersant tainted-areas.
Growing number of cases
And Al Jazeera is finding a growing number of illnesses across the Gulf Coast.
Denise Rednour of Long Beach, Mississippi, has been taking walks on Long Beach nearly every day since the disaster began on April 20, and she is dealing with constant health issues.
"I've had health problems since the middle of July," she said. "At the end of August, I came home from walking on the beach and for four days had bloody, mucus-filled diarrhea, dry heaves, and blood running out of my ear."
Karen Hopkins, in Grand Isle, Louisiana, has been sick since the middle of May. "I started feeling exhausted, disoriented, dizzy, nauseous, and my chest was burning and I can't breath well at times," she said.
Dean Blanchard, who runs a seafood distribution business in Grand Isle, is Hopkins' boss. He too is experiencing similar symptoms.
"They [BP] are using us like lab rats," he explained, "I'm thinking of moving to Costa Rica. When I leave here I feel better. When I come back I feel bad again. Feeling tired, coughing, sore throat, burning eyes, headaches, just like everyone around here feels."
Lorrie Williams of Ocean Springs says her son's asthma has "gotten exponentially worse since BP released all their oil and dispersants into the Gulf."
"A plane flew over our house recently and sprayed what I believe are dispersants. A fine mist covered everything, and it smelled like pool chemicals. Noah is waking up unable to breath, and my husband has head and chest congestion and burning eyes," Williams said.
Like others, when Lorrie's family left the area for a vacation, they immediately felt better. But upon coming home, their symptoms returned.
Wilma Subra, a chemist in New Iberia, Louisiana, recently tested the blood of eight BP cleanup workers and residents in Alabama and Florida. "Ethylbenzene, m,p-Xylene and Hexane are volatile organic chemicals that are present in the BP Crude Oil," Subra said,
"The blood of all three females and five males had chemicals that are found in the BP Crude Oil. The acute impacts of these chemicals include nose and throat irritation, coughing, wheezing, lung irritation, dizziness, light-headedness, nausea and vomiting."
Indications of exposure
Subra explained that there has been long enough exposure so as to create chronic impacts, that include "liver damage, kidney damage, and damage to the nervous system. So the presence of these chemicals in the blood indicates exposure."
Testing by Subra has also revealed PAHs present "in coastal soil sediment, wetlands, and in crab, oyster and mussel tissues."
Trisha Springstead, is a registered nurse of 36 years who lives and works in Brooksville, Florida.
"What I'm seeing are toxified people who have been chemically poisoned," she said, "They have sore throats, respiratory problems, neurological problems, lesions, sores, and ulcers. These people have been poisoned and they are dying. Drugs aren't going to help these people. They need to be detoxed."
Chemist Bob Naman described the brownish, rubbery tar balls that are a product of BP's dispersed oil that continue to wash up on beaches across the Gulf:
"Those are the ones kids are picking up and playing with and breathing the fumes that come off them when you crush them in your hand. These will affect anyone who comes into contact with it. You could have an open wound and this goes straight in Women have a lot more open mucus membranes and they are getting sicker then men. They are bleeding from their vagina and anus. Small kids are bleeding from their ears. This stuff is busting red blood cells."
Dr Ott said: "People are already dying from this... I'm dealing with three autopsy's right now. I don't think we'll have to wait years to see the effects like we did in Alaska, people are dropping dead now. I know two people who are down to 4.75 per cent of their lung capacity, their heart has enlarged to make up for that, and their esophagus is disintegrating, and one of them is a 16-year-old boy who went swimming in the Gulf."
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Show AllNo, this cannot be true, just a bunch of lawyers trying to make money right?
BP, President Obama and the EPA said the dispersants were perfectly safe. As safe as fabric softener. Why would the President and EPA lie to us?
Does this mean fabric softener will kill you too?
Yes. Fabric softener is one of the more unpleasant chemical solutions we expose ourselves to on a regular basis:
Chemical analysis of the emissions of five different kinds of commonly available fabric softeners was reported in the May, 2000 issue of The Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health. Their study revealed that the fabric softeners emitted toluene, styrene, phenol, thymol, xylene, and trimethylbenzene, among other chemicals, many of which cause acute respiratory tract irritation and inflammation (among numerous other potential health concerns, including cancer).
See:
http://www.immuneweb.org/articles/fabricsoftener.html
What You Can Do
Fabric softeners reduce static cling by coating fabric with a waxy
film that fluffs up clothes and changes the negative electrical
charge from the detergent.
Natural fabrics don’t develop static the way synthetics do, so step-by-step switching to all natural fabrics such as organic cotton sheets will help. Green fabric softeners are now on the market that are made of vegetable-based surfactants, salt, and natural ingredients for scent.
Read more: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/fabric-softeners.html##ixzz13agkMDcS
I ride my bike most of the time, in the evenings fabric softeners are the most notable smell
How dare you point a finger at our environmental president. Obama is not in the pockets of corporations, the military industrial complex, or marching to the orders of CEO's, NAFTA, GATT, the G-8 who is dividing up what is left of the Natural World to exploitation. Obama is on our side (is this where I insert the funny looking smilley, cough??), yes, indeed, Obama is the greatest environmental champion since, well, the guy he replaced. :)
did you see Chris matthew's disgustingly slimy face last night when he said impishly "the spill was not as bad as we first thought."
voting at this moment amounts to legitimizing the criminals.
Stop this "Don't vote, it legitimizes the bad guys" crap. Many of us DO have a choice: "None of the above". Check the box or write it in. So simple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_the_above
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in
A vote like this is moronic. It is a non vote. A non vote is a vote not cast, a voice not heard, a person so foolish as to disenfranchise themself. Vote your conscience, BUT VOTE! The Repubes want nothing more than to have a small turnout, then the baggers win. GOT THAT, FOOL!
Chemical Warfare--the symptoms described are those we were trained in the US Army to recognize as being caused by the agents employed in Chemical Warfare. The people living there need to leave now, as if a massive hurricane is approaching, and then sue BP and the federal government for all the money in the world.
This story is a lie. Sorry.
Don't be too sure.
I tried writng this comment three times already. Words just cannot fathom the feelings I am having over this newest revelation of our Fascist dictatorship and BP continuing to get away with pre-meditated murder and get paid for thier murdering. The Tea Baggers want to take America back, I say they can have it! There is not much left of America to get back. Although I can hope that this is the event that will finally open America's eyes to the fatality of corporate rule, I am certain that the Fascist US media will spin this to make it look like dolphin pee is what made everyone sick.
take heaven, rearrange the parts, and create hell...
structure matters...
the Gulf is ruined for a good while...one can only wonder at extent...how's the Atlantic side? the Caribbean?
if one's health improves when one leaves, stay gone...
Would they put the dispersant's in on purpose to make the situation more toxic?
I would think that the least they could do would be to set up a committee or group that would go around the affected states and areas, do water and air testing and let the people living there know what is going on with the chemicals and the environment before it makes everybody there ill.. If we are at risk continuing living where you guys "messed up," let us know! And how about using this experience to learn from and realize the time is now to move on to solar, wind, and whatever other "clean and sustainable" energies we can find.. These old, dirty fuels are bad in so many ways- except for those making fortunes taking them from the earth then selling them back to us.. betterdays..
What would this accomplish but to find the sea poisoned and all it's bounty tainted? No study, no worry. Gov as usual. The corporates already rule. AUX BARRICADES
Based on Naomi Klein's theory of "Disaster Capitalism" as laid out in her must-read book "The Shock Doctrine", indeed they could have this incentive behind their hideous actions/inactions.
The eco-terrorists aren't activists blocking logging trucks, or attacking animal-experimentation laboratories, they're the mega-corporations and their political lackys (wonder who I'm referring to here) who make billions polluting, AND cleaning up their messes. They manufacture disaster to keep us frightened, confused, divided and easily controlled. And to keep them rich, safe, warm and enjoying all the fruits of the world they've removed from our grasp and placed behind tall walls and barbed-wire fences.
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Egoists always rule through fear, whether they do it consciously or not. Why? people are easier to manipulate when angry and afraid.
More sick people mean more work for the healthcare and insurance industry. Bring on the profits.We need the jobs!!!!
No. That would be stupid. What they were doing was CYA. They were hopeful that if we could not see the oil then we would believe it was not a worry. To bad that they used a banned chemical that they needed to get rid of in one of the most bountiful places on Earth. Might have gotten away with it if they had sold it to Shell. Understand, this is a Capital crime, People and an ecology will die, and since the Supreme Court ruled them as a person BP should be brought to trial, found guilty, sentenced, executed, and ALL it's assets distributed among those harmed. FYI, The sky is magenta on my planet.
Rats don't smoke, except forced to in labs.
Rats don't take drugs, except forced to in labs.
Rats don't drink alcohol, except forced to in labs.
Rats don't eat junk food and get obese, clogged arteries, etc, except forced to in labs.
Rats don't go on diets, except forced to in labs
Rats don't drop bombs or engineer weapons of mass destruction.
Rats don't invent toxins or fool around with chemicals.
Rats don't play with poisons.
Rats don't drill the ocean beds for oil.
Rats don't denigrate other animals.
Because humans DO, why should rats suffer and die in labs?
Why should ANY nonhuman animals be forced to suffer and die in labs because humans are insane, violent, and destructive, and filled with hatred and contempt for animal life?
[I've just answered that question.]
Excellent points made..and not just rats but primates, dogs, cats, the list goes on. Wonder how many animals were forcibly tested by the BP dispersant? Oh yea, I almost forgot it was "little people" of the coast who had that honor.
The answer is obvious, We are the thinking(?) animal.
rodent, I feel you on this one. Dostoevsky said "the degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
I believe the same judgment can be applied to how a society treats its animals. Ours is not a civil society.
In regard to the dispersants, it fits perfectly into this country's obsession with appearance and illusion to cover the horrid reality. Cash rules everything around me
"I believe the same judgment can be applied to how a society treats its animals."
And indeed, Gandhi said precisely that: "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
my good brother studied chemistry. he decided to pack up, go into the mountains, and live there for the rest of his life, after looking around. i can't wait to join him.
Enjoy your mountian life until some mining corp tears it down looking for minerals to exploit.
He made the right choice. Long chain hydrocarbons aren't easily incorporated into the human body (maybe in fatty tissue), but when you break them up with Corexit, not only do they become more easily digested by bacteria, but by humans too. In particular the poly-aromatics may be easy to find their way into human tissue, but impossible to break down again. I feel sorry for these folks in the Gulf.
I wouldn't trust any supply of seafood in the U.S. either. On top of that Europe bans U.S. meat imports because of all the hormones, additives, and antibiotics.
No wonder we have an epidemic of cancer.
Yes. Factor the pesticides. Then watch communities join together to run and "fight" cancer. I cringe when I contemplate the two levels of action and the lack of any spotlight on industry as the cause- like it appears from nowhere. The cancer is corporate.
Other diseases too. Kids at school increasingly display sinus and allergy problems.
High incidences of ADHD, thyroid, brain cancers...anyone else noticing this- I don't remember seeing this twenty years back- and the total lack of connection? Oh yeah- and the CDC?
Exactly. Where is the CDC? Or the NCI? Or NIH, or NIEHS? Or the EPA for that matter?
They have abandoned the people, and are little more than corporate mouthpieces, doing the bidding of their corporate masters. How much more evidence do we need of this?
I expect them to cover up any and all illness directly, or indirectly due to the BP spill. Period. The government is corrupt and cannot be trusted.
Surfactant/solvents like the BP Corexit also would extend the range of the dispersed oil. These symptoms should start in the Gulf, as they have, but eventually extend up and down the East Coast of the United States, and perhaps eventually make it to the British Isles. Maybe it'll die down due to bacterial action, but there was a huge amount of both oil and dispersant, and bacteria don't particularly like these poly-aromatic chemicals anymore than we do, which is why they persist once spilled.
God I am sick to read this. What a travesty. In every way.
Where the hell is justice today OBAMA?
Why have you allowed this to our people?
Why the hell aren't you and all of your agencies on OUR side?
Why, oh why are we so hopeless? You have let the American people down who believed in you. No amount of the slick words you use can bring back the death and sickness you should be offensively dealing with to protect Americans. Huge letdown. Huge. Along with the others- the criminal activities that got us into war in Iraq. Wall street. Health care "mandate" for corporations. Huge.
F BP
Did you view the Moyers's film Trade Secrets? http://www.pbs.org/tradesecrets/ I cannot find any Youtube or other online copy to link to, but there's a transcript available at the PBS link. The film and the documents it's based on provides proof that industry knowingly poisoned and killed its workforce--somewhat similar to what the Tobacco industry and others have done and escaped accountibility with federal government help. Yes, it's sordid and barbaric behavior, and it continues unabated. Too often we forget the depth of depravity existing in DC and some corporate boardrooms and the longevity of that depravity--going on three generations now at minimum. Further evidence of this trait is documented in the books Killing Our Own and Our Stolen Future, and of course Silent Spring. Corporate and government criminals get away with murder because they know they can--and do. The civilized way to solve the problem is to demand government enforce the law. But since the government refuses, it seems we are left with only barbaric choices to arrive at justice--Vigillantism. Clearly, the lesson learned by waiting for the government to do the right thing is that it won't, which means we must do the job ourselves--a judgement that relates to all corporate and government crimes. Being peaceful/civilized just isn't getting us anywhere. I don't like what that conclusion means, but its logic is irrefutable, IMO.
You are so right. And we are so tired of this. This is where our Constitution shall guide us forward. And where we decide finally to, as the Tea people say, "take back our government," but for the sake of good government, not no government.
Aloha! Michigan woman, and welcome to the forum. As I've often explained, I'm not a fan of the 1787 constitution. I would say our Declaration of Independence is a much better guide given our situation--overthrowing tyrany. And as in 1776, I don't have any use for the previous form of government. Nor do I have any use for the current philosophy driving corporations and other business organizations. Their charters must make their first order of business service to the community and to do no harm to it or the environment upon which the business and community rely on to exist; the pursuit of profit and shareholder interest comes afterward. The structure of the national government and its institutions would greatly evolve, as would the laws regarding contesting for political office. The Separation of Powers Theory would be strengthened into 5 branches--A unicameral legislature that produces a constrained executive in a paliamentary fashion; an elective regulatory branch that has a legislative function; a judiciary with nominees proposed by the regulatory branch and confirmed by the parliament; an elective election and media governing body; and an elective interior/defense/foreign relations ministry. The key details are no executive branch; a very different direction with fundamental business law; no external empire; and a different direction politically. But this change will not come cheap; it will be opposed by the current power base with all its might.
Aloha!!
In principle what we need is a more direct democracy! Thanks, we should be looking at all constructions critically- could a parliament serve us?
Where would we be without without a Bill of Rights? I don't want to imagine. It's individual and personal. The struggle that those early conventions demonstrated was heroic-given wealthy privileged male stakeholders.
Stimulating ideas- elective regulatory with legislative function-hmm, the trend to governmental immunity shielding the bad actors and the regulatory nominates? Thats pretty close..
Charters amended and not outright rejection of the personification of corporations?
It is certain the empire goals of the few with power corrupt and prevent us from having the benefit of our own hard work- our taxes need to be used by our people for our people.
Thanks for your reply. What you read is just a sketch, an outline. As we've witnessed, the Bill of Rights isn't strong enough and there is no provision for punishing those who break it aside from impeachment, which is a required duty of congress to perform--according to the constitution--and we've seen how that duty's been ignored to the great detriment of the country and peoples worldwide. As the wholy new form of corporate charter implies, the doctrine of corporate personhood would be explicitly denied and corporations made to serve society instead of the opposite as is currently the case. The same goes for newly envisioned electoral and media laws that removes money from politics, provides a framework of laws regarding the structure and conduct of political parties, and mandates--again and beyond the new corporate chaarters--the special significance of the media and how it must operate in a democratic society. As you may now presume, the goal is to greatly increase the amount of democracy and the level of direct citizen participation within that democracy--a position that openly acknowledges that the USA currently is NOT a democracy. Overthrowing the US Empire is necessessary but isn't sufficient as the populace must be shown what's proposed to replace it--openly--instead of behind closed doors as was the case in 1787 Philadelphia. The banking system would also undergo drastic change and the power residing in Wall Street would be severly clipped.
The 1787 constitution's Preamble is where the philosophical rationale for how the government is supposed to operate resides. When read, it becomes manifestly clear that the federal government hasn't operated within that mandate for decades--a very good argument can be made that it's been over a century. There is little that ought to be changed in the Preamble aside from making it live within the new constitution, whereas the current constitution allows for its marginalization to outright ignoring as is so easilly seen by those willing to look. Constitution 3.0 is still a work in progress and is meant to go beyond fixing the fundamental flaws of Constitution 2.0, which is beyond redemption.
There's a wonderful essay by Kirkpatrick Sale that enumerates some of the 1787 constitution's flaws that ought to be front and center here at CD, http://www.counterpunch.org/sale10282010.html
I am impressed with the outline. I agree- this is SO IMPORTANT to have the discussion of our future. Very thoughtful and energizing! Thank you for taking this time to explain your important ideas and for the link. I think I could get very interested in your plan- do you think others are aware of such an alternative?
We have to know where we are going. Please READ the above from Karlof1 everyone.
Thanks again for your further reply. My Constitution 3.0 project was concieved almost three years ago initially as an attempt to force congress to do its duty and impeach Bush, Cheney, and other high ranking BushCo criminals and forced me to reexamine the 1787 constitution and its history, which I was already familiar with as an historian of the US Empire. That spawned a sporadic educational campaign to first get folks to know the #2 status of the 1787 constitution and how it was forced on the populace in what really amounts to a coup. The historian Merrill Jensen is #1 in exploring that realm: The Articles of Confederaton: An Interpretation of the Social-Constitutional History of the American Revolution, 1774-1781 and The New Nation: A History of the United States during the Confederation, 1781-1789 are most important. This campaign generated some excellent supporting commentary, but I have no idea how effective it was as it goes against what is taught through the Propaganda and Indoctrination Systems. So, the process continues. If you read Sale's essay, you'll understand the great weakness of the 1787 constitution is its vagueness. Reversing that is what is making constitution 3.0 harder to construct as specifics are required where generalities or nothing were present before. I also suggest reading the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to undrestand just how deficient the Bill of Rights is. And there's still more citizens ought to know--a whole bunch of stuff never taught in K-16 or even at the post-grad level--knowledge is strength, whereas ignorance is weakness.
I have posted this many times. Google Depopulation control/ Rense. com. Depopulation thru vaccinations and drugs. All of these effects were known before the murderer in chief let them dump it in the sea and over the land. Contaminating grounds and water supplies. They knew damn well what it would do to people. They don't give a shit. The article from Rense is thoroughly researched. They want to bring the world's population down. Please read it. Gates and the banks and Bildenberg are in on this.
And of course eventually many of these people won't get health coverage from this. This was done on purpose. And quit getting the flu and other shots. This years is much worse. Hepatitis? Is there a hepatitis outbreak somewhere? Why is it included? You are smart people. Do the research.
I did. Shocking.
Kittering and Sloan were two chemists working for Dupont and looking for a chemical to add to gas to take the knock out of car engines. Ethynol does it but the oil companies that hired Dupont did not want it known that ethynol would run an engine. They discovered that lead would do the trick. One of these brilliant chemists said that when lead was introduced to gasoline 300,000 humans world wide would be effected by it per year. Most would die. They made alot of money and gave some of it to start the Sloan Kettering Institute for cancer research.
Corporations with unlimited wealth can get humans to do some horrific things. I think it was Sloan that quickly got poisoned by lead and was sicken until he died.
How many world wide have sickened and died for corporate profit?
Rich people who make lots of money invest their money probably in stocks in one way or another. They are the owners of these corporations and want to see them profit. They infest Washington, DC.
How many humans will die?
karlof1, i am always endebted to you folks who give me knowledge (ie:trade secrets), and being vegan i've also learned how to make non-toxic/chemical products from like-minded people. not only health saving but monetary solutions can be found if one has the determination to seek them out. it's a matter of ethics..........
Michigan Woman hits the nail on the head.
"No amount of the slick words you use..."
Slick words... too good.
Obama you bum.
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They Don't Care About Us.
At all.
We are slaves and cannon fodder and consumers.
Fall into any but these categories and you are systematically neutralized or destroyed.
What will it take, really? Obama and Newt Gingrich and Geithner tearing apart a shrieking child and devouring him on Youtube?
But the "liberals" would say, Oh, but at least he (Obama) used napkins--
No. NO. I was a liberal.
It would be done to cheers by some of the Amerikan people if they were told the child was an enemy combatant and was just being extrajudicially sanctioned. Make sure the child has dark skin and toss in a turban and bingo instant Amerikan justice!
Indeed!
As long as Obama is doing the damage, it's ok but if Bush does the damage, the phony *liberals* go biserk.
It's not about principle, it's about the towing the Party line and winning.
These phony libs are no better than the Republicans.
If elected, former Gov. Sarah Palin told us she would "Drill Baby, Drill." The liberals (Dems) hated her for her blatant disregard for the environment.
Yet shortly after being elected,Obama signs many leases for off shore drilling and recently lifts the moratoriam and DOES the dirty deed of Drill Baby, Drill.
Somehow Obama's off shore BS is exceptable by phony liberals. Obama is given a pass--excuses such as "Change is hard" or "He doesn't have a magic wand" or "We can't let perfect be the enemy of good" are used over and over to excuse this this man's lack of morality and leadership.
Obama's an empty suit--a frontman for Wall St.
Shame on BP and this complicite Admin and all those who support him.
Good grief.......