Cheney Told FBI He Had No Idea Who Leaked Plame ID
WASHINGTON - Former Vice President Dick Cheney told the FBI in 2004 he had no idea who leaked to the news media that Valerie Plame, wife of a Bush administration critic, worked for the CIA.
A summary of the FBI's interview with the then-vice president reflects that he had deep concern about Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, a former U.S. ambassador in Africa who said the administration had twisted prewar intelligence on Iraq.
Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was convicted of perjury, obstruction and lying to the FBI in the probe of who leaked Plame's identity to the news media. At the end of Libby's trial, prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald said that "there is a cloud over the vice president" regarding the leaking of Plame's identity.
In the FBI interview, the vice president's memory of key events appeared hazy.
Cheney said he did not recall discussing Wilson's wife with Libby before her CIA employment was publicly revealed by conservative columnist Robert Novak on July 14, 2003. Libby's own notes produced at his trial reflect that Cheney told him about the CIA employment of Wilson's wife in mid-June 2003, a month before Plame's CIA job became public knowledge.
Following Libby's conviction, President George W. Bush commuted Libby's 30-month prison sentence but rejected Cheney's vehement appeals to pardon Libby.
The 28-page FBI interview summary was released Friday to a watchdog group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which sued to get the material under the Freedom of Information Act.
In the interview, whose participants included Fitzgerald, the vice president said the identity of Valerie Wilson and her employment were not high on his radar screen and that her employment with the CIA and relationship to Wilson did not figure prominently in his thinking. Cheney also told agents that he did not recall having a conversation about either Plame or her husband with Bush.
The vice president said he probably discussed Wilson with Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove, but told the FBI he would not have talked to Rove about Wilson's wife.
Cheney's occasional denials that he talked about Plame to various people at the White House are among the few things in the lengthy interview with the FBI that Cheney appeared certain about.
According to courtroom testimony, Rove was one of Novak's sources for his column disclosing Plame's CIA identity and Rove and Libby were sources for Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper, who also wrote a story identifying Plame.
Cheney said he was not aware of any discussions Libby may have had with Rove about Wilson or Wilson's wife, and Cheney said Libby did not tell him about any such discussions.
The vice president advised the agents that he had no idea what Libby knew in the days before Plame's CIA identity was publicly revealed. Cheney said he did not recall if Libby revealed to the vice president his independent knowledge about the fact that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA.
In a New York Times opinion piece on July 6, 2003, Wilson accused the Bush administration of twisting intelligence about Iraq's efforts to buy a uranium "yellowcake" in the African nation of Niger. Bush referred to the yellowcake during his Jan. 28, 2003, State of the Union speech to Congress as he was trying to rally support for going to war with Iraq. Yellowcake is a powdered form of uranium that could be used in a nuclear weapon if purified and enriched.
The year before, the CIA had sent Wilson to Niger to determine the accuracy of the uranium reports. Wilson brought back denials of any sale and argued such a sale was not likely to happen.
In his FBI interview, Cheney said his initial reaction to the Wilson article was his sense that it was "amateur hour" out at the CIA.
Cheney said The New York Times piece was disturbing. Cheney said he was most disturbed because it was now being made to look as though the vice president had personally sent Wilson on the trip. The vice president said that all he had done was to make a legitimate inquiry of a CIA briefer in February 2002 about Niger and Iraq.
Plame was outed in Novak's column as a CIA employee eight days after Wilson attacked the administration in The New York Times piece.
Cheney said it was then-CIA Director George Tenet who told him sometime before the July 6, 2003, publication of Wilson's opinion piece in The New York Times that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA, but Cheney said he was uncertain when that was.
Cheney said he could not recall if he mentioned the content of his conversation with Tenet to Libby, but the vice president said that if he would have shared it with anyone, it would have been Libby.
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Show AllValerie Plane and her husband Joe Wilson, were on 60 Minutes, awhile ago. They had a copy of an Xerox of the New York Times Op Ed piece that Joe Wilson wrote. And on the Xerox copy of the first installment of her book, that was written in the Vice President' s own hand writing to "get Joe Wilson" by getting through to his wife. It clearly conveyed to the world, that Valerie Plane was a NOC or " no operative cover". "You lie" Mr. Vice President. You should have been impeached, but even if you claim "executive privilege", you are not above the law. You are not a king, even if you think and act like you are above the law, you are not. You should be indited for war crimes, REICO for the Meidorf-Wall Street Ponzi Scheme and you and your estate should pay restitution for the greater good of all.
If you've not read Velerie Plame's book yet....it's still a good read. I recommended it to a few Republicans I know that can read but their time card was filled by Faux News.
Bah, arrest the lying traitor and keep his picture off the front page. I hate looking at the face of evil when I look at the news.
Big surprise!
Cheney has always been an evil,lying bastard and still is. Send him to the Taliban and ask for the videos of his confessions. Just for fun send the rest of the dogs responsible for that mess.
I understand that there is a "need to know" provision when it comes to "secret" servants like Valerie Plame. Quite aside from the question whether Cheney had a need to know, did Karl Rove have a need to know that Mrs. Wilson was employed by the CIA? The primary source of the leak must therefore have been within the CIA and not in the White House.
Jeevee
There is that old saying: "The people get the government they deserve."
Are most of us still fast asleep or are we still wallowing in the sinkholes of greed?
"Are most of us still fast asleep(?)"
many have awoken - but most have hit the snooze button.
Hey, I know how to refresh Dickie's memory! Send him to Guantanamo and waterboard him 186 times a day. Betcha the bastard will sing like a bird after only one session.
Apparently old scratch never offered Cheney the same deal that Dorian Grey got.
If enough Americans made it a priority to hold the Bush administration accountable for its many crimes there would be action, and would set an example for future generations. The 'rest of the world' would be astonished that this could occur. A rogue nation changing into what it professes to be, and making amends for it many mistakes. The 'rest of the world' would want to be just like the USA after that kind of leadership.
As it already is the USA has set the negative example.
And the rest of the world either follows it or is waiting for the inevitable to occur.
I believe that if the USA does not see that the many crimes of the Bush administration are answered, in no other forum but the International Courts, by the perpetrators in open a fair trials--- that the USA will fall so low as to be able to 'numbers its days'. Never have a people held their own lives and futures in their own hands so clearly.
The would could never tolerate the USA or allow it to exist, at least in its present form without these criminals answering for their crimes. The 'law of self preservation' would dictate their only choice.
The world may have already begun the process, and are waiting for the people of the USA to make the right choices.
After all is said and done, it is the people of the USA the world will hold responsible in the end, not the criminals who they allowed to commit these crimes in their names.
"If the USA were another nation the USA would invade the USA to keep the world safe; and they would be justified."
I think you are all missing the delightful part of SHOTGUN DICK. In his own mind he is protecting all of us fools from our own weak minds. He also saved Bush the inferior (as long as Bush followed his sage advice). Dick and Dick alone is loyal true and perfect. His lies are not self serving - THEY ARE SAVING AMERICA AND FOR THAT MATTER THE REST OF THE WORLD. After all you do not tell foolish children the truth - they will panic and wet themselves.
His mind is a fantasy in that he is both Superman, Batman etc. and the key element of Lex Luthor, Riddler, Joker etc. Cartoon super heroes are good but naive. The bad guys are world wise and clever, but evil. Shotgun Dick is (in his own accurate clear eye) GOOD, RIGHT, CLEVER, WISE AND REALLY PERFECT. It is not arrogance for him to so accurately measure himself.
The future geniuses will see his perfection and lament that he was not given his due in his lifetime.
Okay you guys. One of you leak Plame's CIA role. I don't care which one of you does it as long as it gets done. And I do not want to know which one of you leaked the story. Got it?
Martha Stewart goes to prison for fibbing to the FBI, Cheney & Co get national medals for the same act.
Only in America....
Hopefully, the next time a candidate for President stands up and says, "No one is above the law" everyone in America will stand up and give him or her the finger.
The best thing that could happen would be for Cheney to eat his wife and daughters, to decimate his family by ingesting them and digesting their flesh. He could be charged with cannibalism, tried, convicted, and then sent to his own exit from this earth.
Richard Bruce Cheney is a Dick alright.
Richard Bruce Cheney belongs locked up in a prison for the war criminal he is, for one. He is a very sick man.
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Just sayin'
What is the point of this article anyway? Obama and his gang let them go scotfree so what makes anyone think that they'll stop lying? Even if Cheney goes to jail, Obama will probably "pardon" him shamelessly ! Yeah, some chump "change you can believe in" ! ARRGH !
jennifer, what, if any, basis do you have for this statement?
Jennifer has a habit of pretending to know what politicians will/might do in the future. She does not understand that history does not proceed in that manner.
I've studied history just fine and there's plenty to prove what Obama will do next. Obamabots !
Obama let Bush/Cheney go scot free for one good reason. Without them, he and his party can't find anyone to blame and that old gang is free to distract the public while Barry silently screws up. The Bush/Cheney cabal won't go to jail under our present system and if they did, they would be dragging their accomplices with them which would force Barry to pardon them. I hope that explains my basis.
t_g
Why do some people still believe this disgusting creature? And why is he even allowed to speak out anywhere? Or live in peace and prosperity when he ruined so many lives around the world and even in his own country?
I say, haul him to the Hague at once!!!!!
Greetings from Down Under
What better than a picture of Goering's love child to frighten people on Halloween? I wonder if him and limpbaugh have the same mother?
Cheney said that Wilson's wife and her CIA connection "did not figure PROMINENTLY in my thinking". Why was he not asked if it figured less than prominently?
Why does Common Dreams feel the need to continue running Cheney stories?
... starting to question their news selection process...I can go anywhere and read AP stuff.
Cheney's getting nervous.
Why must I always see Cheney or Bush's picture on CD after I just ate?
Richard Bruce Cheney is a Dick alright.
Richard Bruce Cheney belongs locked up in a prison for the war criminal he is, for one.
Richard Bruce Cheney belongs locked up in a prison for the domestic criminal he is, for two.
Richard Bruce Cheney belongs locked up in a prison for being the criminal he is, for three.
Richard Bruce Cheney's wife Lynne and his two ugly daughters all belong locked up in a psychiatric ward as well.
cheney is a lying sack of shit.
Point well taken.
Perhaps he would agree to be waterboarded? After all he does make the claim that the technique led to all sorts of people better able to "recall" things they might have forgotten.
It certainly is NOT torture in his own words so why NOT a more "Robust" interrogation?
This clap mouth nothing can't remember any of his/her war crime's. Yet he can remember how to steal elections, threaten people that don't agree with him. Murder some like the guy that fixed the Ohio election and was going to spill the beans on him and his boyfriend Bush. Why, why, why is this enemy of the country allowed to be walking around free from any prosecution? Where is unqualified Eric Holder? Why isn't he doing his job. Obama has become a part of the repugs schemes. Impeach Obama and take Holder with him.
Holder IS doing his job, exactly as instructed.
Perhaps you're referring to his now-defunct job description under the document formerly known as the U.S. Constitution. That's not what he was hired for.
We must demand an immortal moratorium on photographic images of this evil creature. And there's a strong case for prohibiting any futher mention of its name or any more words written about it.
It will never receive proper earthly justice, so why even dignify it with more attention?
IdonknowwhyIbotheredtowritethiscomment.
Because at least he might feel the heat a little. THEY will never let us get to him, but we can weight on his mind and make sure that history remembers the truth.
That's a good point. But the way his mind works, he will always turn it to his advantage, though perhaps the number of people who believe his nonsense is declining.
Dick Cheney is without a doubt, the eminance grise of American politics. He is also a prime example of what a Third world type political crony is: venal, incompetent, narcissistic, corrupt to the core, and with an out sized sense of entitlement that extends to his family.
It is probably all too likely that any possible prosecution of Cheney will take place along the same sort of time line as similar actions has occurred against state criminals in Argentina & Chile; two or three administrations afterward, not by the administration immediately following.
But, worry not. Darthie's darling daughter Liz,(better known as "Deferment#5") will come to Daddy's rescue sticking out her smirky face and ward-off the FBI and critics with more of the usual "Cheney Special" blitz of lies. (LOL)
Bring America Back !!!!
***You know===the most important point here is that the FBI
is one of the most worthless of federal institutions==a total failure at what all Agents promise and swear to do== Preserve and Protect the Constitution of the US against all Enemies==foreign and Domestic.
***Instead the FBI has become the private Police force of the King in Power==giving allegiance to the Prez even where He or She violates the US Constitution.
The Failures of the FBI are MASSIVE--too voluminous to repeat here. Just ask Colleen Rowley and Sibel Edmunds, and many who have the internal intelligence to speak out against this catastrophe. Robert Mueller, FBI Director needs fired immediately for covering up Crimes of 9/11, and continuing to seek "Patsies" to take the blame for the failures of the FBI> This incompetent Agency should be de-funded and made into a fingerprint storage facility. About all it's good for !
***If the FBI had any common sense at all, Cheney would be under arrest for high
Treason, malfeasance , and lying to Federal Agents. FBI is Worthless to the organization we know as the US Govt !
Please, CD, I don't want to see this guy's face again until the headline is "Cheney indicted for war crimes". He's a pathological liar and I don't care what comes out of his piehole.
I agree. There is no need to repeat anything this lying piece of shit says. It will always be a lie.
Tater also has no idea who shot Harry Whittington in the face;
he's mystified as to which member of Shrub's vice-president search committee tabbed him for the job;
and he sure as hell hasn't the foggiest notion of who spoon-fed the Iraq B.S. to NYT's Judith Miller, whose articles the Dick then referred back to in Sunday morning TV interviews to justify the impending occupation.
I eagerly await Mordechai's analysis of this report.
Bring America Back !!!!
****Yes, amnesia is a chronic disease of Neocons and Republicans. If they can't controvert facts of history, then they just can't seem to recall it !! That's why to them Nixon is a Hero , and Ronnie Reagan is their American Idol !!
**They cannot recall Rudy Giuliani's recommending Bush appoint now indicted Bernard Kerik as Director of Homeland Security. Kerik now is back in jail awaiting trial for
criminal Fraud. To the Neocons, Giulani is still the
Americas Mayor !!!! Pls Think Bldg 7, WTC, 9/11/01--
the Mayors 17 million $$ Emerg Ops Center.
****Remember when Cheney's man Libby was convicted of perjury in the Plame Outing, we all knew his guilt would be commuted by Bush, or pardoned. If Libby would've served one day of jail time, his face gave the distinct impression that all the skeletons would fall from Cheney's closet !! History shows Libby fell on his sword for Cheney/Bush, and probably today has a high pay reward job with a Neocon think tank, or Right wing lobby outfit !!!
I mean, what more can we expect from prolific LiaRS, war criminals, and felonious violators of the US Constitution ???
What more can we expect until Georgie and Dickie find their way into the general population--giving them a bit more motivation to find the TRUTH in their vague memories ?????
**I think there are outstanding arrest warrants for Team Bush in Berkeley CA, Brattlesboro, VT, and a county in NH !!
Lying runs in the family, Cheney's daughter lied this week about Bush and the Dickster going to Dover Air Force to view the return of dead soldiers to the U.S.
It didn't happen.
This idiotic bitch know that the bastard daddy didn't ever go to Dover. It would have been a disgrace for the draft-dodging yellow back to do so.
it must be the water at the whitehouse. its done funny things
to many peoples memor over the the years. i'd like like
to see cheney get put in the general pop.
hang a mistletoe over his bunk. that
would take that snarl off dick's face.
So what exactly does Cheney remember about his time in the WH? The piranha fish (sp?) is beginning to bite its own tail. Soon the other piranha will be attracted by the sanguine waters.
Nice points all.
We all know Cheney could not tell the truth if his life depended on it, but maybe I am wrong! If someone told him that his life depended on him remembering the 22 times he said under oath he could not remember anything, maybe all of the sudden he would remember because the war mongering, cheerleader with 5 Vietnam deferrments must be a coward.
Cheney certainly understands that it does not matter one iota how many lies and falsehoods that he utters as he takes great comfort in the fact that the Obama administration has absolutely no intention of taking him to court. It should also be pointed out that Obama is the the same person who told his Egyptian audience in Cairo on June 4 of this year that, in referencing, like George W. Bush, 9/11/01 and how Al-Qaida supposedly killed 3,000 people on that day, said:
"These are not opinions to be debated; these are facts to be dealt with."
Was Obama elected dictator or president last November? Are citizens of this country not allowed to debate and question what happened on Sept. 11, 2001? Perhaps Obama's next declaration is that Americans should not wonder why Cheney and Bush have not been prosecuted for the crimes that they have committed against the Afghan and Iraqi people. It very well may be that Obama realizes that if he decides to have the Bush administration prosecuted for war crimes, then his administration should also be placed in the dock for the bombing of innocent Afghan children and grandmothers as well as the slaughter of innocent Pakistanis when drone missiles have been rained down upon them.
Bring America Back !!!!..............!!!...say 'enroll', you may not recall that,
on that fatefull day 9/11 VP Cheney is reputed to have been conducting war games
at NORAD==the same NORAD which failed to pursue the jumbo jets of 9/11, and sent
jet fighter pursuit planes out into the Atlantic, instead of east to defend the
NYC and DC attacks !!
****Did it ever occur to you that WHY would a VP be conducting war games when that is strictly a military function of personnel technically and expertly qualified to pursue our best National Defense. WHY ??
**At the same moment in time , Cheney claims he was being whisked away, against his
protests, by the US Secret Service to the underground Emerg OPs Bunker--screaming at them ..."..But I don't want to go to the Bunker..." !! Now this is the very same Secret Service recorded on live TV which allowed our No 1 Guy , King George Bush to sit for a pregnant 9 minutes before a Sarasota, Fl kindergarten class reading the now infamous '..My Favorite Pet Goat.." !! Think, Enroll, just think
****The reason Prez Obama refuses to look back at Bush/Cheney war crimes, is that,
in the same rear-view mirror he sees many, many prominent Democrats---yes they were
told in secret committees exactly what King George was up to, and Never uttered one word of protest. They are therefore as guilty as Team Bush on war crimes !!!
That's why Speaker Pelosi took Bush Impeachment off the political tables, since Democrats were complicit in all His war crimes !!! Including Herself !!!!
****And, since Obama has now adopted the Terrorism Wars as his own, he definitely is subject to Impeachment on the Drone attacks on innocent civilians in Pakistan,
etc etc !!! And Obama Team has never uttered one word against Israel's Genocide of over 1500 at Gaza, including 300 to 400 totally innocent children. Unforgivable !
So you and I, all Americans must continue to struggle against the lies and party line fantasies which fail totally to explain the Monumental Tragedies of 9/11!
Great post Truthknoller,
Do you recall what the name of that war game was? I read about it somewhere but can't find the link anymore. An ATC controller has signed a sworn affidavit that states he couldn't tell which targets on his scope were real because the war game simulation put up dozens of fake "intruder" bogies on the screen confusing everybody in the ATC system.
Thanks,
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
The NORAD exercise was called Vigilant Guardian. One of the subplot scenarios was the crashing of hijacked airliners into high-rise office buildings.
"Who could imagine!"
Sounds like he's channeling his hero, Reagan. Remember when our boy Ronnie got amnesia when he was questioned about his war crimes in Nicaragua? Seems like amnesia is a contagious disease among republicans.
Why are we talking about this now? Is any of this new information? What's the point of the whole article; just rehashing what we already knew?
the cheney pic is CD's jack o'latrine.
Maybe the Capone solution would work---if we can't nail The Dick on numerous counts of murder and extortion, I'd settle for perjury and obstruction.
Damn, where's Elliot Ness when you need him?