Doctor Critical of Baucus Promotes Single-Payer Plan
On Friday, Paris was in Montana, doing what got her arrested: urging Baucus, Congress and the president to consider a single-payer system of national health insurance that covers all citizens equally.
"The next 60 days are critical," she told a rally of 150 single-payer supporters in Helena. "We need to keep the heat on Sen. Baucus (and Congress and the president)."
Single-payer advocates held rallies in six Montana cities on Friday.
Paris, 56, is a member of Physicians for a National Health Program, whose 16,000 members are pushing for a national, publicly funded insurance plan that would replace private health insurance. The group paid for her trip to Montana.
In an interview Friday with the Gazette State Bureau, Paris said she used to believe that the private health insurance market could be reformed to improve health care, and she spent several years lobbying the Maryland Legislature.
"After a few years, I came to the conclusion that it was just a phenomenal waste of time," she said. "At that point, I just said, there has to be a better place for me to put my time and energy."
That was just six months ago, when she joined PNHP, to push for a single-payer system.
But Paris and other Maryland-area members found themselves basically ignored by Congress. They planned to protest - and get arrested - at a Senate Finance Committee hearing on health reform, chaired by Baucus.
Paris and her colleagues showed up the morning of May 5, spread themselves among the gallery and, one by one, interrupted Baucus as he started the meeting.
"I interrupt this so-called public hearing to bring you the following unpaid political announcement: Put single-payer on the table," Paris said before she was arrested. "My name is Dr. Carol Paris, and I approved this message."
Capitol police arrested the protesters, who have been charged with disrupting Congress.
Baucus, a key senator in drafting health reform legislation, said last week that he'll ask that the charges be dropped. He's said repeatedly that a single-payer system won't be considered as a reform and is backing changes that maintain private health insurance.
Baucus spokesman Ty Matsdorf said Friday that the senator and single-payer advocates have the same goal of providing "quality, affordable health care to every American," and that Baucus is confident that Congress will pass meaningful reform to "make this goal a reality."
Paris, however, said her experience in private practice has convinced her that true reform can happen only if private health insurance is replaced with national, public insurance for all.
No longer would physicians' staff have to spend hours dealing with multiple insurers on billing, no longer would patients have to do the same, and no longer would patients have to worry about which doctor is "in network," she said. "You can go to any doctor you want," Paris said. "It's the private insurance industry where you can't go to any place you want."
Paris's arrest was covered prominently by her local newspaper but received little or no attention from national news outlets.
She said she's not surprised: "The mainstream, national media have blacked us out as much as Congress has. ... I would say they're following the lead of the president and Congress and simply not giving us a voice."
Yet Paris said the reaction from her patients, as well as many fellow physicians, has been overwhelmingly positive.
She said she hears "over and over and over again" how people are frustrated by the current system, particularly dealing with their insurer, and that as soon as they understand how single-payer would work, they usually support it.
"I think that the only thing that keeps this from happening is the lack of political will by the president and our Congress," Paris said.
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Show AllResponse from my congressman regarding single payer universal health care, he is republican:
Thank you for taking the time to contact my office regarding H.R. 676, the United States National Health Care Act or the Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act.
While I agree that health care reform needs to come about, I do not think it is the federal government's job to regulate it. I think with any health care reform it needs to be patient and doctor oriented. The federal government already has proven it can not handle something as critical as health care. One needs to only look at FEMA and how the government runs the Veteran's Affairs health care system to know that this will not work.
Hocus Pocus - just watch Baccus Backstabus
The people who voted for Obama specifically said that single payer heath care wasn't important; ending the war wasn't important; bringing justice to corporate corruption wasn't important. What was important was 'winning.'
I hope that you are happy with what you won America.
But don't worry, next election you'll be able to vote again for another corporate democrat.
Hope is the opiate of the masses.
Amazing how the Obama Party went from mandatory hope and evangelical belief in change to saying we have to be realistic and not expect too much - or anything. The only constant is their co-option into Obama's victories. It truly is a personality cult.
Do you realize that next time we're likely to have a choice between more of Obama's Daley machine and Newt kid-you-not Gingrich. It's too much to contemplate.
NotOneMore,
Well stated! Obamamania is still there, and the zealots continue the justification for his decisions.
We will not have single-payer until the people realize that we are at war against big pharma, big insurance and big media. Here's a bit of inspiration:
"To write the Declaration of Independance, we need the skin of a White man for parchment, his cranium to hold the ink, his blood as ink and a bayonet as pen".
--From the Haitian Declaration of Independance
"My love, if you do not die in battle, someone is saving you as a symbol of shame"
--Afghan woman to her man, as he leaves for battle against invaders
Off to war we go.
Stop Media Control!
Jack Layton to talk health care at the White House
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090530/layton_washington_090530/20090530?hub=QPe...
From Layton's speech at the Partnership for Health Care, the Environment & the Economy (Woodrow Wilson Center, Washington D.C):
"And while many take it for granted today, Tommy and his supporters fought a decades-long battle to usher-in Canadian Medicare. There were opponents every step of the way. ...
So take it from me – Public health care was worth the fight, and for Canadians, it’s worth fighting to keep it strong. Americans should know that when the battle begins here in earnest once again. It’ll be dirty, it’ll get nasty and victory isn’t certain.
The battle lines have already been drawn. President Obama has thrown down the gauntlet and put a viable plan on the table ...
But progressive leaders and the American people will need to be united in their resolve, because the forces of the vested interests are gathering against change that’s in the public interest. And they’re sowing the seeds of fear with myths and lies about Canadian health care."
http://www.ndp.ca/press/partnership-for-health-care-environment-economy
What Jack Layton is trying to say is that the vested interests tried to stop Medicare in Canada and we had to be strong and united to win. Even now, these same vested interests are trying to undermine the Canadian system - and using money made off of American patients to do so. Thus, it is in Canada's best interest that these vested interests be stopped, it is in the economy's best interest that these vested interests be stopped - but they won't go down without a fight.
Tommy Douglas is the father of medicare as well as Keifer Sutherland's grandfather. He first brought it to Saskatchewan and then to all of Canada.
The Romanow Report (written by Roy Romanow) is about improving Canadian health care and focuses on ways of getting the price of drugs down because they are too expensive in Canada (ok maybe not compared to the US). He also dispelled the myth that private healthcare coverage is cheaper as far as federal expenditure.
At times like this, one must admire a good old revolutionary song like La Marseillaise - OK, an interpretation:
Ye sons of France, awake to glory,
Hark, hark! what myriads bid you rise!
Your children, wives and white-haired grandsires.
Behold their tears and hear their cries! (repeat)
Shall hateful tyrants, mischiefs breeding,
With hireling hosts, a ruffian band,
Affright and desolate the land,
While peace and liberty lie bleeding?
Sons of France = us
Children,wives, grandsires = our family members and us, denied medical care by the wealthy elites who control our country.
Hateful tyrants = Congress & the Obama administration
Mischiefs breeding = cooking up a scheme to screw the public and enrich the insurance companies and pharma.
Hireling hosts = lobbyists
Ruffian band = the same
Affright and desolate the land = monitor our phones, claim the right to lock up anybody without due process
With luxury and pride surrounded
The vile insatiate despots dare,
Their thirst of power and gold unbounded,
To mete and vend the light and air! (repeat)
Like beasts of burden would they load us,
Like gods would bid their slaves adore,
But man is man, and who is more?
Then shall they longer lash and goad us?
Luxury and pride surrounded = the .01% of the population that controls 20% of the wealth in the US, while the bottom 90% controls 4% of the wealth. The top 200 wealthiest people in the world control more wealth than the bottom 4 billion.
Vile insatiate despots = those who want to control us, and our nation, are obviously never satisfied. More, more, more. Make obscene profits while wrecking the world economy by crony capitalism, then ask for a bailout!
Their thirst of power and gold unbounded - need I say more?
They dare - to mete (measure) and vend (sell) the light and air - and they measure and vend our health to maximize profits, even going as far as to market harmful and doubtful medicines to the public! (for example the stuff that fixes yellow toenails but wrecks your liver).
Like beasts of burden - obvious.
Like gods would bid their slaves adore = shall we adore our culture, with the advertising industry brainwashing the weak-minded into a consumption-driven existence, or are we going to have the strength to reject the conditioning?
Man is man = our opposition sits on the "throne" like everybody else. Pressure them, insult them, badger them, perform citizens arrest, accuse them, stand up in meetings. They can be brought down. Of course, when the establishment cranks up the pressure, that's when senators who don't play ball "coincidentally" go down in plane crashes, etc, wiretaps net governors private deals with prostitutes, etc., key people, suddenly, out of the blue, commit "suicide". They play hardball, we play wiffleball. Perhaps we have the wrong equipment for the game we're in.
To arms, to arms, ye brave!
The avenging sword unsheath,
March on, march on!
All hearts resolv'd
On victory or death!
Now this part I can't interpret - take whatever action seems appropriate. Keep in mind the plan of the tyrants is to treat patients as profit centers and milk them for all they're worth. That kills us, slowly. That is truly killing and maiming our children, our wives, our grandsires.
To arms, ye brave! :)
First - Af/Pak and endless war, then EFCA was roasted on the spit, now Single Payer is abandoned like an unwanted girl baby on the midden pile outside the city walls for the wolves and the rats to clean up...since when did peasant/serfs with a life expectancy of 46 need any kind of health care? If they die in their millions they will breed like rabbits when young to fill the deficit...populations under stress do that - then they reach a stochiometric point and stop breeding altogether. It operates the same as planetary warming. The process continues to a particular trip-wire point, and then the system "Flips" and shuts down. On the Planetary level that makes an ice age, in human terms, massive die back. Gravity, and the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
This is what white america demanded for itself - this was the alternative to becoming conscious and creating a society based on Inclusion...still is.
American's do not care.
American's are lazy.
Honestly when was the last time you saw American's taking to the streets to protest something?
seattle 1999 ?
1968 ?
until people take to the streets marching with their children like the latino's did in 2006, we will never see single payer universal healthcare.
Agreed!
While I hope that it will be otherwise, it lookd like the G-20 will enjoy their first mass protest-free visit in many years when they come to Pittsburgh this September.
Single payer has been removed from the table.
The Senatre Finance Committee might consider a public option.
In a "brilliant" move, Olympia Snow proposes a public option that is contingent upon "good" performance by big pharma and big health companies.
If they don't get their act together, we may have a public option in several years.
Brilliant ...Snow has taken public opeiton from yes or not to maybe later.
Senators do not have to support sigle payer. They can support the public option, which has been put on hold.
All the fence sitting worms can tell their constituents that the time will come (in several years)
And now Congress can tell BIG Health and Pharma that their worries are over - and by the way - could you help out in the 2010 elections ...
Snow has destroyed any possibility of the public option and has moved the discussion way beyond single payer.
Great Job Olympia - You are not only a traitor to the people of Maine ... you have fucked the people of America
Rot in hell you despicable whore
Take profit out of health insurance. It doesn't belong. It's the wrong model for paying for health care.
Have one insurance provider, the government, working non-profit. This will free up money to pay the true providers of health care, doctors, nurses, hospitals and yes drug companies.
Yes, I'm a broken record on this subject. I challenge these doctors to spend time learning about what is being accomplished with nutritional medicine and applying it in their practices. We'd all be a lot better off.
Single payer is certainly an improvement over the present nightmare but it, too, will go broke unless we first break the medical monopoly--AMA, Big Pharma, device mfg, hospitals, insurance companies. They are allied to bleed us dry and will continue to do so no matter what system we have (except for insurance cos.).
cassandra, one of the beauties of single payer HR 676 is that you an choose ANY state licensed health care professional. That includes naturopaths (except Ohio, which doesn't license them), chiropractors, acupuncturists, whoever. A huge step forward. And would be very exciting for me since I don't see MDs. In fact I was infuriated that Obama personally took alternative providers off the table.
Are there any campaign promises left for him to break? I can't think of any. He's been busy for just four months in office. I really don't want to know what he's planning for the next 3 1/2 years.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
BeForKids,
I certainly agree with your answer to cassandra.
15,000 doctors, almost all nurse's organizations, and tens of millions of ordinary people want Single Payer Health Care, like HR 676, and it's "off the table!"
When will the lethargic American public awaken from their sports and entertainment obsession and realize we don't have representatives in Congress anymore, and demand action?
Americans need to start screaming loudly for this. We have a small window of opportunity and we shouldn't let it close.
Let's let every newspaper, every magazine, every blog know that we will hold Max Baucus responsible if single payer is not seriously considered AND implemented in some manner (we know how good Congress-sneaks are at saying one thing and doing another). Max Baucus should be thrown to the curb if single payer is not implemented before his next election!
We need to single out one major and visible player in the health care scene, and Baucus is it. Can we do this one simple thing?
Where can a country who is coping with the biggest financial swindle in history hope to compete with the millions being thrown at our polititians to sweeten the pot in their favor. The general public is having enough troubles scraping together money for essentials like food shelter and the extra costs of health care that having the ability to effectively influence the lawmakers with money is out of the question. Appealing to their good judgement is a joke. Appealing to their patriotism is equally funny. Either we accept the fact that we have been sold out for a bag of gold coins or we accept the fact that collectively we can affectively influence our government with a non-violent revolution. Every able bodied person needs to start yelling foul play in mass marches until Congress finally gets the picture. If every senator and representative in Congress discovered there were great numbers of signs calling for their resigination they might take another look at their pocket books and decide they have already screwed the public enough.
The Dems don't seemed moved by public protests. Witness years of antiwar protests, letter writing and lobbying as just one example.
People vote for the Dems based on fear of the Repugs. This formula is embedded in the reptilian part of voters' brains. So, the Dems, a corporate entity, really don't have to respond to public demands.
There are parties out there that do support single-payer healthcare as part of their platform, like the Green Party. However, this other strategy - lobbying elected representatives that support corporate interests over the public interest - is probably an exercise in futility, given past history.
I hope people will remember this lesson of betrayal, but attention spans are on the wane. Revolution or some kind of open revolt might be the answer, but people seem to need some sort of call, like "the British are coming," to get motivated and off the couch.
-TIA
We need a lot of reform...third parties for sure, election reform in particular, Until we have publically financed elections and not corporate financed free-for-alls we will continue to be governed by money, power and greed, not by democratically elected officials who serve the Constitution and people who elect them. The system is completely broken and the collective voices of the people are the only ones to demand that it be fixed. We are being pushed to the wall and there is only one way to stop the injustice...push back hard. The senators and representatives who are shaming themselves by ignoring the needs of their constituents need to be publically embarrased with their financial and voting records, posted for all to read.
TIA,
Excellent post! We in the Green Party support and are working for Single Payer Health Care and even conduct training workshops for ordinary people to spread the information to their fellow citizens.
The politicians against it need to be denounced by their constituents and voted out of office.
"However, this other strategy - lobbying elected representatives that support corporate interests over the public interest - is probably an exercise in futility, given past history."
So don't lobby them - threaten them with their livelihoods.
Thank you Ms. Paris. As long as insurance and big pharma are a part of health care in the US there is no hope for change.
Unfortunately for us these very entities have used their obscene profits and our tax money to keep the system as is---i.e. Congress working for and answerable to them.
XGenman, I prefer single payer on the table. When people hear what you get and how it's paid form they want it by a large margin. That's democratic. Only option seems like it's being stuffed down their throats.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
dmnalven and ED both have it right. Our president says he will go where the people push, the media refuses to let the public know anything whatsoever about single payer so the people don't know what to push for. Works like a charm. For the insurance industry.
I admire those doctors and nurses so much for fighting our battles for us. I know this system sucks for them as well. They are trained to provide care and the insurance industry is blocking their efforts.
I can't agree with Dr Paris on who is following whose lead. I think the corporations lead and the Congress, President and the MSM trot along after. I mean, who do you think is running this country?
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
"I can't agree with Dr Paris on who is following whose lead. I think the corporations lead and the Congress, President and the MSM trot along after. I mean, who do you think is running this country?"
That's exactly right, Kathy. Thing is, though, that we can't expect Congress or the media to do anything because they ARE corporations. At least, according to Dun & Bradstreet:
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So, we need to circumvent the MSM. But, hey, more and more people don't pay attention to the MSM - they're here, online. We need to reach them and get them to direct their ire in a focused manner.
Health care is the single biggest issue that is holding this country down. Most Americans know it's not working for us. Most Americans want relief. Unfortunately, most Americans are not focused and are playing into the trap that has been set by the corporate rulers to keep up diffuse and running. We need to focus on one thing and one person within that thing and hammer them, and we need to do it loudly and visibly.
I said it before; I'll say it again:
As one who advocates non-violence, I deeply regret that I am unable to support or recommend a tactic that would both justly reward Senator Baucus' tireless efforts to serve his corporate masters, AND serve as the tipping-point to bring the Obama maladministration on board with single-payer.
But I have to admire its elegance: merely deliver a box to Obama containing the severed head of Baucus, with "single-payer" branded into its forehead.
Extreme? Perhaps. Radical? Arguably. But it beats the Hell out of holding these demons' cloven hooves to the campfires of dissent.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Horray Carol! We need more couragous patriots like the "Baucus 13" to stand up and fight for what the American people need.
P.S.- Carol, your shirt reads "Put single payer on the table." Should it not read "Single Payer, the only option"?
“Carol, your shirt reads ‘Put single payer on the table.’ Should it not read ‘Single Payer, the only option?’”
Hear, hear.
There are five key myths in the media that should be easily refuted. Use these simple points when talking with your neighbors and in contacting media and policymakers.
1. The government would be making your healthcare decisions. No, your own chosen doctor would be making the decisions. As it is, your medical decisions are being made by insurance companies.
2. A system like Canada’s causes long waits for care. No, actually it doesn’t; this myth is groundless. Also, there is no waiting in other national systems, for instance in Scandinavia.
3. It would be “socialized medicine.”
(A) Actually, even the most capitalistic prefer that health and safety services, such as those provided by police and fire departments, not be privatized. If your house were burning down or an armed burglar breaking in, would you prefer to choose among a dozen providers to call, with your credit card in hand, before they’d respond?
(B) It’s not socialized – you choose your own private doctor (see above).
4. Having a single-payer option along with existing private insurance options (the Obama plan) would be a step in the right direction. Not really.
(A) No savings in cost and time would be achieved, as administration would still have to handle multiple insurance billings. The system would become that much more complicated.
(B) The single-payer option would become an expensive (to taxpayers) dumping ground for insurance companies to send their high-risk, high-cost patients.
5. It would somehow be more expensive. No.
(A) When people are encouraged to see a doctor for minor preventative care, they avoid expensive emergency and complicated procedures. (Would you prefer that taxes pay for an early doctor visit or a later extended hospitalization (as what currently happens with under-insured patients?)
(B) Note the lower individual annual cost of health-tax payments vs. medical insurance premiums. (I don’t have these figures offhand.)
My opinion: This problem (and many others) will not be solved until our democracy is fixed -- until government is actually for and by “We The People,” until elected representatives are made immune to corporate funding, in their election campaigns and in their legislative decisions. But for this to happen, we’d need some new interpretations from the Supreme Court, e.g., that corporations are NOT legal persons (currently they have far greater rights than liability exposure), and that campaign contributions are NOT an expression of Free Speech. Fat chance anything like this will happen, short of revolution.
"The mainstream, national media have blacked us out as much as Congress has. ... I would say they're following the lead of the president and Congress and simply not giving us a voice."
They apparently have misinterpreted the beginning of the Constitution; "We the People" means "We the Congress" to those we voted into office. It's clear that the majority in Congress pay no attention to the voice of the people.
"In a morally healthy society, the darker elements are kept subordinate to the dictates of good order. They are held in check by those frameworks that a culture has developed at all levels –in the psyche, in the realms of cultural expression, in the domain of governance– to nurture and protect good order. But when these frameworks break down, as they have in America in our times, the dark forces –the old patterns of brokenness— that lurk in a society will arise opportunistically to tear things apart." - Andrew Bard Schmookler
So much for the "moral compass" of the United States! It's pretty obvious to the entire world that we are sinking fast.
"Yu Yongding, a former central bank adviser who acted as the interviewer for The China Daily newspaper, told Geithner: "I worry about details. We will be watching you very carefully."
No surprise there!
Gail,
Good post! I've been to Europe and they are amazed at why we don't have single payer health care. They read, and many are more informed about the happenings in the US than our own fellow citizens are.
The American people wanted a hero for the 08 presidential elections, someone progressive enough to reverse the direction of the reactionary forces of darkness in Congress and in the White House.
Four had entered the race...Kucinich, Gravel, McKinney, and Nader, but were deliberately not covered by the monopolistic MSM, who concentrated on who the ruling elite would accept...Clinton or Obama, and the non-thinking public fell for it again, voting for the "lesser of two evils." (Obama over McCain) As Nader always said, "evil plus evil equals evil." Simple arithmetic. I was ridiculed on CD last year for voting for McKinney, because I knew beforehand, the Obama agenda. Now, progressives are lamenting Obama's actions and policies. Propaganda works, when people are uninformed.
The "world's only super bully" will not push the Dragon or the Bear around. They're observant and preparing for it.
Unfortunately the corporate tools in Congress and the White House, beholden to their health insurance and Big Pharma donors, will control the debate and prevent what we the people want and need: single payer.
So much for "democracy".
"She said she hears "over and over and over again" how people are frustrated by the current system, particularly dealing with their insurer, and that as soon as they understand how single-payer would work, they usually support it.
"I think that the only thing that keeps this from happening is the lack of political will by the president and our Congress," Paris said."
No... The problem is the lack of media coverage. Her statements clearly indicate that a probable majority of the public would push for single-payer as the reform if they knew the facts.
But this is not a democracy and the MSM is complicit.
It's rather amazing that Obama's admin. has not even considered single-payer. I remember him singing the praises of single-payer early in the campaign. I guess someone told him at some point, "you'd better shut your mouth with this single-payer stuff, or we'll end your political career".
Stop Media Control!
"the only thing that keeps this from happening is the lack of political will by the president and our Congress". This is totally inaccurate. The president and congress don't work for us. They work for the media. They want to be reelected, and the media hold the keys to their reelection. Therefore, they do what is good for the super rich who own the media and the health insurance industry.
The people don't know what's good for them because the media teaches them only what they need to know to support those who run the media and the insurance companies.
"There is no power greater than Media control". --Hitler
The reason single payer is not going to pass has NOTHING TO DO with the lack of media coverage. It has everything to do with CORRUPTION. Our elected officials are not the servants of the people. They are paid mercenaries for the wealthy.
The people want single payer and it is not on the table. The people oppose the wars, the bankster bailouts, NAFTA, the torture---but so what? You think this is a democracy? You learned that in the third grade. Done any thinking since then?
Democracy requires the participation of the people. What have you done? Time is critical on this issue. Do something!!!
Baucus, like most members of Congress are bottom feeding scum-bags, and they pimp to the higest bidder. We have to vote these clowns out.
I happen to be the webmaster @ 911truth.org
Much of our condition is directly attributable to a lack of general knowledge and specific knowledge that came in the past from journalists. The MSM agenda is now one of propaganda. Dialogue is shut down in the name of patriotism and profits.
This country never was a democracy. It has always been a republic. Another failure of our educational system is the pitiable introduction (read indoctrination) we receive in our civics courses.
You are correct about democracy. You don't get democracy... you do democracy.
'"The next 60 days are critical,"'
This is actually accurate.
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Eric Patton
Cincinnati, OH
ebpatton@yahoo.com