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Treat U.S.-Held Prisoners Like Gitmo Detainees, Afghans Urge
KABUL - The word "Guantanamo" serves as shorthand among some Afghans for all the reasons they hate foreign troops, but the impending closing of the notorious prison has gotten surprisingly little attention in this country.
US soldiers belonging to the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) during a patrol in a village outside Bagram Air base, some 50 kms north of Kabul, in 2008.(AFP/File/Shah Marai) Nothing changed with last month's U.S. presidential order to close Guantanamo, many people here say, because another prison inspires even greater fear: Bagram.
Even a man who could be expected to feel the most joy about Guantanamo closing, a former detainee who spent more than six years in the camp, quickly turns the conversation to the detention facility north of Kabul, inside the U.S. military base at Bagram.
"Everybody is happy because our friends will be released from Guantanamo, but there is a big question," said Omar al-Madani, 30, who now lives in Kabul. "What will they do about Bagram?"
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The answer was delivered late Friday, when a government lawyer told a Washington district court that President Barack Obama will continue the policy of his predecessor, forbidding detainees at Bagram from legally challenging their imprisonment in U.S. courts.
That policy will now be scrutinized in U.S. court, as advocacy groups try to persuade a judge that Bagram detainees should have the same rights as those in Guantanamo, including the right to a hearing before a neutral judge.
It's an issue that will assume growing urgency in the coming months, as thousands of extra U.S. troops surge into Afghanistan and a $60-million expansion doubles the capacity of the Bagram Theatre Internment Facility, known by its acronym BTIF.
"It's silly to think closing Guantanamo as a symbolic gesture will achieve legitimacy for the new administration, while the same practices continue at Bagram," said Tina M. Foster, executive director of the International Justice Network, a New York-based rights group.
Her group has been representing Bagram detainees in court since 2006, but she feels the question of their rights has gained momentum in recent weeks.
"The conversation has shifted," Ms. Foster said.
In many ways, the detainees held in Afghanistan represent a bigger issue than those kept at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The estimated 600 prisoners at Bagram outnumber the 240 remaining in Guantanamo, and those held at Bagram have not enjoyed the same attention from lawyers and journalists who have spent years focusing on Guantanamo detainees.
As one of the first detainees at Guantanamo, Mr. al-Madani said he watched conditions slowly improve inside the camp as his captors reacted to the pressure from outside. Prisoners were beaten at first, he said, and the only amenities in his cage were two buckets: one for water, the other a makeshift toilet. But he spent the later years of his incarceration in greater comfort, allowed to read books and play soccer.
"The world's eyes were on Guantanamo," he said. "We got lawyers; things got better. But those people at Bagram have nothing, no lawyers, no courts. It's a closed place, much worse."
The Bagram prison is operated by the U.S. military and detainees have no right to legal counsel or fair trial. Most of the detainees are Afghans, but some were transported to Bagram from other countries. A military review board re-examines their status every six months.
A United Nations report last week singled out the Bagram facility for criticism. While the Red Cross was allowed to visit detainees, the report said, the Red Cross findings are kept secret and the U.S. military has denied UN requests for similar visits.
"There are reports that some persons have been in detention at Bagram for as long as five years," the report says. "Some ex-detainees allege being subjected to severe torture, even sexual abuse. Ex-detainees also allege that they were held in cages containing between 15 to 20 men and that two detainees died in questionable circumstances while in custody."
One of the few Afghan officials allowed inside the Bagram facility is Mohammed Akram Mirhazar, administrative director of the National Reconciliation Program, a government office that handles prisoners as they're released back into society.
He said most of the detainees complain of torture, but Bagram serves a necessary function in the war. Corrupt officials at Afghan jails allow prisoners to slip free, he said, but nobody escapes from U.S. custody.
"If our administration wasn't corrupt, we wouldn't need Bagram," Mr. Mirhazar said.
The reconciliation program has helped 717 former detainees from Bagram and 63 from Guantanamo as they return to ordinary life, Mr. Mirhazar said, and he's expecting another 27 from Guantanamo as that facility shuts down.
Despite the hundreds released so far, Mr. Mirhazar said only eight have been re-captured - and three of those were later re-released as authorities realized they had been wrongly imprisoned twice.
While acknowledging that his records may be incomplete, the Afghan official suggested the numbers show a high percentage of people swept up in military operations are innocent. This feeds anger among the local population, he said, and gives a propaganda victory to the insurgents.
"You must not give meat to your enemies," he said.

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Isn't it a fact Rumsfeld had planes drop leaflets telling Afghanis if they turned in terrorists they would be financially taken care of for life? And that led to neighbors turning over people they had a personal grudge against? People being sold- not captured! Engaging in torture creates a beast of the one perpetrating the crime, and once our soldiers come home they suffer mental anguish because of it. The VA is once again studying why suicide is at an all time high. Perhaps they should watch the testimony of Winter Soldier, the vets returning home from these two god awful wars. Or maybe they aren't really interestd.
It is a terrible permanent stain on America that will never go away. The Bush Administration knew damn well the truth behind 911. What entailed after 911 was reminiscent of the Salem Witch Hunts. This was all part of Baby Bush's propaganda plan to place the blame of the events on that day on someone else. Let's talk about Tim Osman and the role he played in all of this. Who is Tim Osman you ask? Tim Osman when he was 27 years old, toured the US and worked closely with Arms procurement specialist Mike Riconosciuto (Who btw was silenced and tucked away in prison since 911 so the truth wouldn't surface). Riconosciuto knew CIA Agent Tim Osman rather well. He was a CIA agent who we now know as Osama Bin Laden. He was funded, trained and supplied with vast weapons from the United States with the help of weapons procurement specialist CIA Agent Mike Riconosciuto. Tim Osman was even entertained in the White House! He toured numerous US Military bases where he was given special weapons training. He was treated like royalty as he came from one of the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia. The mass deception from the Baby Bush Administration was to cover up the fact that devious American government officials in compliance with the demands of the elitists of the Bilderberg Group, had an agenda to fulfill. There were two major tasks they wanted to complete. First, was to complete the pipelines from north of Afghanistan down to the refineries, funded by American Energy companies; a 60 Trillion dollar investment that needed completion but was being blocked by the take over in Afghanistan by the Taliban. The second was to create a deceptive smoke screen to protect Israels desire to use the United States super power to protect them from the ages old hatred of the Jews by the Arabs. This was the major reason for the attack on 911. America's military support of Israel. The Jews have oppressed the Palestinians for way too long. The Jews lost their land thousands of years ago.
["The centuries-long persecution of the Jews led a small minority to believe, in the late C19, that a Jewish state was the only answer, so these zionists began to buy up Palestinian land from the Turks, in whose Empire Palestine then was. To obtain Jewish financial support, the British Government during WW1, and later supported by the might of the USA promised to create a 'Jewish National Home' (whatever that meant) in Palestine, in direct contradiction to its promises to the Muslim forces that had been fighting for it, and was granted control of the territory by the League of Nations. As a result a number of Jewish settlements were established in Palestine, against the violent opposition of the native population, who rose up against these foreign settlements just before the War." If the US wants so badly to protect the people of Isarel, bring them over to the US and give them an area the same size as Israel out in the middle of unused land in Texas, near Baby Bushes stomping ground. Give Israeli territory back to the Palestinians so they can have a sea port and commerce and an outlook on a promising future. Then there will be peace in the Middle East. All problems solved without any violence terrorism or war! Stop believing the pattern of lies set forth by the criminal Baby Bush Cabal. Osama Bin Laden aka Tim Osman is an icon the Bay Bush Cabal used in their mass deception as someone to put the blame on! Baby Bush is the real villian here and needs to be brought to Justice along with all the rest of his criminal cabal for their crimes against humanity! Arrest Baby Bush immediately. Wake Up America! Why do you think Russia invaded Afghanistan backin 1979/80? A country doesn't invade a pile of dirt for nothing. There was a big prize at stake. Oil and LNG and America's desire to tap into the natural resources in soviet territory! Make sense now? Yes Hijackers attacked America on 911, but who hired them? I wonder! All I know is that the large majority of detainees in Guantanamo Bay and all the other prison and torture facilities around the world are most definitely innocent. Maybe Baby Bush would like some first hand experience with Water Boaring and other more painful forms of torture! I think he deserves it!