Venezuela Defends Iran, Blasts ‘Hypocritical’ US Policy On Terror
UNITED NATIONS - Venezuelan Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro on Tuesday used the General Assembly podium here to defend Iran and to blast Washington’s “hypocritical” policy on terrorism.
He slammed the escalating international media campaign “aimed at demonizing the Iranian people and government” and called for an end “to the madness of the war in Iraq.”
Pointing to the “threatening statements against the peace of the people of Iran,” he said it was time “to stop this campaign of demonization…, to build alliances to stop the war-mongering madness of the elites who rule the United States.”
Washington has not ruled out using military action to force Iran, which is suspected of trying to acquire nuclear weapons, to suspend its sensitive nuclear fuel work as demanded by the UN Security Council.
Maduro replaced his firebrand president, Hugo Chavez, who announced at the last minute that he would not travel to New York for the General Assembly session.
Last week, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visited Caracas for talks with Chavez, in a mini-tour of Iran’s anti-US allies that also took him to Bolivia. He made the trip after visiting New York to address the UN General Assembly.
Venezuela and Bolivia have reached a number of trade and aid agreements with Iran, particularly in the energy sector.
Maduro also denounced Washington’s “hypocritical” policy of combating terrorism while at the same time protecting “one of the most dangerous terrorists,” Cuban anti-Castro militant Luis Posada Carriles.
The minister renewed Caracas’ request for the extradition of Posada, a former US Central Intelligence Agency operative wanted by Havana and Caracas in connection with the 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed 73 people.
The plane took off from Caracas and he is accused of plotting the bombing in Venezuela.
Posada, Maduro noted, “is free and protected by the US government in Florida. This terrorist has served the CIA for 40 years.”
Maduro said he had turned to the Security Council’s counter-terrorism committee for help in trying to secure Posada’s extradition so that he can be tried in Venezuela.
Posada, 79, was released from prison last May by a Texas judge who dismissed immigration fraud charges leveled against him in May 2005 after he was arrested for allegedly entering the United States illegally.
US authorities have refused to honor extradition requests from Venezuela and Cuba — where he is also sought in connection with the 1976 plane bombing — citing a UN convention banning deportations to countries with a pattern of torture or flagrant human rights abuses.
Cuba also accuses Posada of planning several assassination attempts against Cuban President Fidel Castro, and of setting off bombs at several Havana hotels in 1997.
The Cuban-born Venezuelan has not been indicted in the United States for any of the attacks, though a grand jury in New Jersey is reportedly investigating his role in a 1997 Havana hotel bombing that killed an Italian tourist.
Despite his tongue-lashing of Washington, Maduro late Monday met with US Assistant Secretary of State for the Western Hemisphere Tom Shannon at Venezuela’s UN mission to discuss the testy bilateral ties.
© Agence France Presse
Watch the documentary “638 Ways to Kill Castro” to see Posada, the terrorist who blew up the plane from Cuba, killing 73 people. And in the doc a couple of the would-be Castro assassins flat out call themselves “terrorists”.
Gee, those Venezuelans have guts! Don’t they know you can get assassinated for less?
Of course what this man says is the truth. Between our lying contemtpable press to our lying contemptable government it is always refreshing to hear someone speaking with sanity and reason. We should now follow the lead of these more enlightened leaders from South American. One of the places in the world where the Oligarchies have lost some of their grip. Has anyone noticed that the countries our media and government demonize most are the ones that have thrown off thier rule. The elite still have most of the populous in this country bamboozeled. Hopefully the awakening to reality can spread to the people and the government of this country.
I would suggest it helpful that the whole of the Nonaligned Movement’s countries take a cue from the US Senate and declare the CIA and the various military branch’s “special forces” terrorist organizations.
I don’t blame Chavez for not coming.
Suppose he had an ‘accident’?
Everyone else knows the truth on these matters - except the average US citizen.
Not that even that would make any difference - who listens to the average citizen, surely not anyone who is in charge.
In our country ruled by the corporate media, corporations, private contractors, and the oil companies, we listen to these vampires and accept what they say as TRUE.
When leaders from progressive countries clearly state the TRUTH on American Imperialism, we label them as liars, dictators and tyrants. Thus, we accept their statements as FALSE.
When will all this madness end? Maybe when this country is thrown into 3rd world status and most Americans struggle to just survive, will there be a fight to regain most of what we once had and took for granted.
One dictator-spokesman blasting another dictator..how unusual.
Iran is a country full of Jew-hating Nazi-sympathizing, holocaust-denying maniacs, along with a government that promotes the same racist rhetoric.
America has a government that says it hates the Middle East so that it can gain whatever advantage it can from it.
Welcome to planet earth.
In the fifth paragraph of the above article, President Chavez is described as a “firebrand president.” Is that objective reporting?
A firebrand president is one that kindles strife. What sort of strife has Chavez kindled? If Chavez counts as a firebrand invididual, what must we call Bush, an apocalyptic mass murderer?
If the non-aligned countries got together and decided to make their own State Departments’ Terrorist List, who do you think they would put on that list?
-The warmongers in the Black House
-The CIA
-The Congress
-The State Department
-The…
-The…
“US authorities have refused to honor extradition requests from Venezuela and Cuba…citing a UN convention banning deportation to countries with a pattern of torture or flagrant human rights abuses.”
Isn’t the above statement itself reflects the hypocracy of the US and the Americans when seen in the light of US OUTSOURCING TORTURE OF THE “TERROR SUSPECTS” to countries such as Jordan, Egypt, Afghanistan, and US record of torturing innocent people like Jose Padilla, Ali Al-Marri….
The following excerpt is taken from “The Darkest Corner of Mind” by George Monbiot, www.outlookindia.com, 14.12.2006.
“That the US tortures, routinely and systematically…The Detainee Abuse and Accountability Project (DAA), a coalition of academics and human rights groups, has documented the abuse or killing of 460 inmates of US military prisons in Afghanistan, Iraq and at Guantanamo Bay(4). This, it says, is necessarily a conservative figure: many cases will remain unrecorded. The prisoners were beaten, raped, forced to abuse themselves, forced to maintain “stress positions”, and subjected to prolonged sleep deprivation and mock executions.
The New York Times reports that prisoners held by the US military at Bagram airbase in Afghanistan were made to stand for up to 13 days with their hands chained to the ceiling, naked, hooded and unable to sleep(5). The Washington Post alleges that prisoners at the same airbase were “commonly blindfolded and thrown into walls, bound in painful positions, subjected to loud noises and deprived of sleep” while kept, like Jose Padilla and the arrivals at Guantanamo Bay, “in black hoods or spray-painted goggles”(6).
Alfred McCoy, professor of History at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, argues that the photographs released from the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq reflect standard CIA torture techniques: “stress positions, sensory deprivation, and sexual humiliation”
“Neither the military nor the civilian authorities have broken much sweat in investigating these crimes. A few very small fish have been imprisoned; a few others have been fined or reduced in rank; in most cases the authorities have either failed to investigate or failed to prosecute. The DAA points out that no officer has yet been held to account for torture practised by his subordinates(8). US torturers appear to enjoy impunity, until they are stupid enough to take pictures of each other.”
But Padilla’s treatment also reflects another glorious American tradition: solitary confinement. Some 25,000 US prisoners are currently held in isolation – a punishment only rarely used in other democracies. In some places, like the federal prison in Florence, Colorado, they are kept in sound-proofed cells and might scarcely see another human being for years on end(9). They may touch or be touched by no one. Some people have been kept in solitary confinement in the United States for more than 20 years.
At Pelican Bay in California, where 1200 people are held in the isolation wing, inmates are confined to tiny cells for twenty-two and a half hours a day, then released into an “exercise yard” for “recreation”. The yard consists of a concrete well about 12 feet in length with walls 20 feet high and a metal grill across the sky. The recreation consists of pacing back and forth, alone(10).
The results are much as you would expect. As National Public Radio reveals, 10% of the isolation prisoners at Pelican Bay are now in the psychiatric wing, and there’s a waiting list(11). Prisoners in solitary confinement, according to Dr Henry Weinstein, a psychiatrist who studies them, suffer from “memory loss to severe anxiety to hallucinations to delusions … under the severest cases of sensory deprivation, people go crazy.”(12) People who went in bad and dangerous come out mad as well. The only two studies conducted so far – in Texas and Washington state – both show that the recidivism rates for prisoners held in solitary confinement are worse than for those who were allowed to mix with other prisoners(13). If we were to judge the United States by its penal policies, we would perceive a strange beast: a Christian society that believes in neither forgiveness nor redemption.
From this delightful experiment, US interrogators appear to have extracted a useful lesson: if you want to erase a man’s mind, deprive him of contact with the rest of the world. This has nothing to do with obtaining information: torture of all kinds – physical or mental – produces the result that people will say anything to make it end. It is about power, and the thrilling discovery that in the right conditions one man’s power over another is unlimited. It is an indulgence which turns its perpetrators into everything they claim to be confronting.
President Bush maintains that he is fighting a war against threats to the “values of civilised nations”: terror, cruelty, barbarism and extremism. He asked his nation’s interrogators to discover where these evils are hidden. They should congratulate themselves. They appear to have succeeded.”
Just because we spend as much money on defense as the rest of the world combined, and attack countries to assure our supply of oil is not a reason to call us war mongering and otherwise speak badly of us.
We just want to get along in a world owned and controlled solely by our most wealthy citizens.
There is only one uncontestable truth here: there is no justifiable, necessary, legal, or defensible cause to attack Iran. The nearing end of Her Bush’s disastrous reign does not count.
I’d feel better if I thought Mr. Maduro’s address would mobilize the U.N. to ensure that body does not once again appear to “appease” Her Bush and his murderous strategy.
Do ya think it’s about time to YANK your “support our troops” car-ass signs off? Maybe replace it with “Wish we had Chavez in our whitehouse and Bush had a feather up his ass, then they’d BOTH be tickled!” Cuz from where I sit, Heir Bush wouldn’t haver f**ked up this country and the world so badly had “our boys” been more like the Venezuelan citizenry or even a little more courageous and moral on their own to say NOOO!!! I won’t invade, murder, torture for SwineBush and Haliburton! But, hey, wish in one hand, shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
Yes it is these murdering troops fault.. They are gutless, they will bomb and kill helpless people but are to cowardly to stand up for what is right. The trouble with blaming Bush is, Bush has never killed anyone, not even heard a weapon in combat, Bush ran from combat during Vietnam, and on 9/11 ran like a scared Texas jack rabbit.
VIVA CHAVEZ
hey was that a breath of fresh air?
nice to hear the truth being told every now and then.
What is truly scary is that as a nation we have come to accept that there is only one way of thinking, even though its plagued with hypocrisy and lousy results. Chavez who is demonized because of his ideology and for no other reason. While Bush and his people is not demonized for his actions, although he should be, because he has the proper ideology. What happened to the market place of ideas, I guess its too dangerous for the powers that be. Now its too dangerous for the American People.
Sorry folks, Venezuela is not a dictatorship. They have a popularly elected government and a vibrant anti-government press. Some of the actions of their government are disturbing, but they have reduced poverty in the last 6 years something Bu$h the inferior promised.
I believe most readers of CD are intelligent. I don’t understand why some contributors feel the need to sprinkle their remarks with four-letter words.
Aafke Janssen October 3rd, 2007 4:48 pm
“One dictator-spokesman blasting another dictator..how unusual. Iran is a country full of Jew-hating Nazi-sympathizing, holocaust-denying maniacs, along with a government that promotes the same racist rhetoric.”
YOU are repeating MSM propaganda…it is interesting to note the Iranian government has Jews sitting on their elected council and their is a sizable Jewish community….
Amrnjinajad said, in response to the oppression and murder of Palestinians and theft of their land, it would better if the right wing likudist regime ended….The rest of the Bu$hite and AIPAC hyperbola ‘anti semitic’ clap trap is a cover for racially vilifying Iran and starting a new war to cover the disaster of the previous one…
I suggest Aafke Janssen turn off the MSM TV and do some research….
Personal life and education
Ahmadinejad, the son of a blacksmith, was born in Garmsar, near Tehran on October 28, 1956. In 1976, he took Iran’s national university entrance exams (konkoor) to gain admission into Iran’s top universities. His test score ranked him 132nd among over 400,000 participants that year,[13] landing him at the prestigious Iran University of Science and Technology (IUST) as an undergraduate student of civil engineering.
After the revolution, he entered the Master of Science program for civil engineering in 1984. In 1989, he became a member of the Science faculty at the university where he had studied.[14] In 1997, he received his Ph.D. in transportation engineering and planning from the Science and Technology University. Even after being elected President, Ahmadinejad continued living in a simple apartment flat and eating meals brought from home, in his office. Both of these traits contributed to his widespread support amongst the poorer classes of Iran.
Ahmadinejad is married with two sons and one daughter. One of his sons formerly studied at the Amirkabir University of Technology…..
SOUNDS LIKE A REAL MANIAC WITH HIS DOCTORATE OF CIVIL ENGINEERING and his PHD…
Then again no one is perfect, just look at Bu$h!!!!!!
Lucas: You’re right, Senator Bingaman doesn’t care what you or any of the rest of us New Mexicans think, beyond getting our vote in the next election. I have visited his office in Albuquerque, sent emails and made phone calls complaining about his “business as usual” bring-home-the-bacon” activities and his total disregard of the Iraq war and the obscene “defense” appropriations for this and other “wars of choice” (his last six newsletters do not even acknowledge a war is going on). Jeff is a prime example of a good man who has stayed too long in Washington and lost his soul there. And he’s the best “representative” we have in Congress. I’m inclined to think the time has come to take the Argentine voters’ approach to their relentlessly non-representative politicians: “Afuera con todos los politicos!” They got rid of a lot of bad apples and lost few good ones by throwing out almost everybody.
Main Stream Media: replete with CIA agents trained as journalists planting propaganda to treat the Sheeple like mushrooms…. Keep ‘em in the dark and feed ‘em bullshit…
simonhhh,
I’m glad to see that someone took Aafke Janssen to task for his blanket comments about the people of Iran.
“Iran is a country full of Jew-hating Nazi-sympathizing, holocaust-denying maniacs, along with a government that promotes the same racist rhetoric.”
In addition, thank you for the interesting background about Iran’s President, the so-called “dictator”, although those in-the-know understand that he wields little real power in his country.
What you don’t seem to understand is that Aafke Jannsen HAS done his research; unfortunately, his research doesn’t have as its objective the pursuit of the truth. Instead, it has as its goal the dissemination of false information that will persuade the sheeple of the necessity of the further destruction of countries in the Middle East deemed “existential threats” to the country of Israel. The Hasbara agenda, as it were. This agenda features ignoring valid points raised during arguments, such as your point as follows -
“it is interesting to note the Iranian government has Jews sitting on their elected council and their is a sizable Jewish community”
Perhaps you could add that the Israeli government, in conjunction with wealthy global Jewish organizations such as the WJC, has repeatedly tried to bribe these Iranian Jews into moving to Israel. They have been repeatedly frustrated by the Iranian Jews’ constant refusal. I find it quite logical though - why would they want to move to the most dangerous place on earth for Jews??
Peace
Maybe you should seek employment at the White House Aafke Janssen, seeing as you seem to agree with Debra “I hate all Iranians” Cagan so much. I don’t see how you could possibly write such racist garbage otherwise.
Chavez isn’t a dictator by the way; in fact neither is Ahmadinejad, and the Venezuelan diplomat wasn’t “blasting” Ahmadinejad, he was supporting him (I suppose you could have been referring to Bush, but he’s not a dictator either, for all his faults).
Finally, “firebrand” is indeed inflammatory; would you the use of “war criminal” to describe Bush every time he is mentioned in the press (it would be more accurate, but hardly neutral)?
And extraordinary renditions fit into our country’s professed adherence to the UN convention… how?
WTF? Anyone studied the relative prevalence of patterns of torture and flagrant human rights abuses in Venezuela, Cuba and the United States recently?
Aafke Janssen:
You stand like a sore thumb on this and similar sites. Go to Faux News where you may have a more sympathetic audience. With your tiny brain you think you can fool some here to think that you are misinformed. WRONG. I know exactly where you come from, who you are, and what your intention is.
If you’re not there now, why don’t you go back to your promised land and join the rest of your chosen people. Don’t try to spew your stupid propaganda here and then just add,” America has a government that says it hates the Middle East so that it can gain whatever advantage it can from it.” in an effort to camouflage your ugly intention.
Hey paulmalfara October 4th, 2007 12:37 am
THANK-YOU for your appreciative remarks… It’s occasionally comforting to know there’s intelligent life forms out there in blog land…As you can read from my posts I attempt to grasp the impossible…the TRUTH
Saila October 4th, 2007 4:50 am
Again, well said…
Hello Aafke Janssen,
It is not unusual to hear one dictator hear saying things about another dictator. Mugabe and Castro have often spoken out against the misrule of American empire, and when they do so they actually make a lot of sense (Castro actually quite a lot !). It is only that they are largely in denial about the misrule in their own countries. When Bush is talking about other dictatorships he can also make a bit of sense, except when he starts about how to bomb these countries into dust or when the dictatorships in question are actually some of his biggest buddies, like Saudi Arabia or Tadjikistan.
What is unusual is to hear a democratically elected leader speak out against American misrule. And this leader is actually increasing his profile and giving hope to millions of people around the world, including ‘the West’. Of course Chavez is not perfect, but in this world of absolute madness I can forgive him quite a few of his flaws. To speak the truth about American Empire ( a truth that most people have already known for years) is quite a brave thing to do for a person belonging to the ‘global elite’.
“Frank Talk from Defense Department Official”
“I Hate All Iranians”
By PROFESSOR GARY LEUPP
It ought to be political suicide. A Bush administration official (specifically, the Defense Department’s Deputy Assistant Secretary for Coalition Affairs) told a group of six members of the British Parliament, “In any case, I hate all Iranians.” Three MPs attending the meeting have confirmed this to the British tabloid The Daily Mail.
The official in question, Debra Cagan, appears in the Daily Mail photo in a red leather blouse and what looks like a chain-mail choker around her neck, along with some sort of martial cross although I understand she’s Jewish. Her hair’s slicked back like that of a fifties street gang kid. She looks like a butch dominatrix. I hope she would not be offended by this description because it is accurate and I suspect it’s her intention to project such an image. (Compare Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in February 2005 arriving at the Wiesbaden Army Airfield wearing a black skirt showing just a little leg, a black gold-buttoned coat descending to mid-calf, and knee-high dirk-slim high-heeled boots. What fashion statement are these powerful political women trying to make?)
Dressed that way, she states in a casual aside to respectable Britons, as though they’ll understand and be anything other than appalled, “I hate all Iranians.” Did she preface the remark with, “Just between us imperialists”? Did she expect that they’d just nod in sympathy and keep the matter to themselves? The Mail reports they were in fact “taken aback,” which of course speaks somewhat well for them.
So now the word is out, but predictably, denied. “She doesn’t speak that way,” an unnamed Defense Department official assured the Mail. It’s not fashionable in the early 21^st century to hate entire peoples, and there are actually laws in civilized countries against hate speech. A Defense Department official cannot say to British MPs, “In any case, I hate all Jews,” for example. This was possible in the 1930s, but would be political suicide today. But maybe you can say what Cagan did, without job consequences.
When you have the entire Senate calling for the U.S. to “confront” Iran, the entire Congress deferring to AIPAC in its refusal to demand that Bush consult with it before attacking Iran, the Persian Empire of Xerxes ludicrously depicted as the enemy of “freedom” in a popular film, the president of a great U.S. university taking the opportunity of the Iranian president’s invited visit to insult him at length before conceding to him the podium—well, you know that norms of civility no longer apply. Logic, reason, balance pale before the power of myth and backwards reasoning of those seeking to create their own new, wild and spectacularly crazy reality. The Nazis called it “the triumph of the will”—the will that slams down the hated, weaker, lesser peoples and allows the Ubermenschen, the supermen, to realize their fate.
Somehow it seems fitting that a Defense Department official should speak so frankly as three U.S. aircraft carriers linger off the Iranian coast, the well-financed anti-Iran disinformation campaign swells, and neocon ideologues granted extensive White House access explicitly demand the bombing of Iran. It is the natural culmination of the vilification trend. If you hate all of them (and are grotesquely ignorant of their vast contribution to human civilization), why not nuke them, and their monuments and treasures, and destroy their 3000 year history, and “wipe them off the map”? Why not prepare public opinion for that shattering scenario, and grind those boot heels into the brains of any sympathizers of those you call “sand-niggers” as you try to spread Bush’s gospel of hate?
Gary Leupp is Professor of History at Tufts University, and Adjunct Professor of Comparative Religion.
Don’t you love it when the Bush administration invokes the United Nations to support a policy?
While I agree that the comments on Aafke Janssen seem to be based in propaganda, and I think quite highly of what Hugo Chavez has accomplished in Venezuela, I am still troubled by the relationship developing between Venezuela and Iran. The Iranian regime is after all a totalitarian theocracy, and the people of Iran are not free from oppression by their fanatical religious rulers.
That being said, the west has none to blame but our own imperialist rulers. It is the actions and policies of Brittan, the USA and other western powers since WWI that have shaped the modern middle east, and those actions and policies have been solely based in greed and power mongering. Our desire has always been to control the oil supplies, and the people of the region be damned.
The same can be said of South & Central America. It has been the greedy, power mongering, oppressive polices of the USA that has shaped the modern anti-US sentiment in that part of the world. The USA should have embraced Chavez and his policies instead of demonizing them.
The fact is that the modern state of Israel really has no claim to legitimacy. The governments and international institutions that created it had no right to do so in the middle east. In a recent interview with Mike Wallace Ahmadinejad said “Well, if an atrocity was committed in Germany or Europe for that matter, why should the Palestinians answer for this?” the president asked. “They had no role to play in this. Why on the pretext of the Holocaust they have occupied Palestine?”
He hit the nail right on the head with that one! Here is a link to the interview:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/09/60minutes/main1879867.shtml
What do you think would have happened if Great Brittan had said, well were going to give Wales to the Jewish people so they can create their own state, from now on Wales will be known as Israel? Do you think the people who lived in Wales would have said ok, cool, were all Israelites now, let the circumcisions begin?
Ok back to the article at hand, as I said before I have no great admiration for the government of Iran (but I do not want to bomb them either), and I find the relationships being built between them and our neighbors to the south to be distressing. My solution is for the USA to stop it’s meddling in the middle east, to renounce our support for NAFTA and the world bank, and to immediately begin a policy of fair trade and economic development with our modern American neighbors based on holding corporations accountable for their actions and treatment of workers, and the environment.
Fat Chance that, eh?
simonhhh - Please do not post the full text of other articles on the blog. A few relevant quotes and a link to the full article is much more appropriate for this forum.
Regards,
Chunga
Chunga’s revenge
Just because you find it a worry that there are alliances developing between nations which are hated by the US, doesn’t mean that these alliances are a bad thing. The ONLY thing that will stop the US rolling over every other nation is if these threatened nations stick together and help each other. The harm done by the excercise of unrestrained US power in the world far exceeds what harm these others can do, even acting together. That is not merely an article of faith of mine, but a view I base on many years of observing the expansionist practices of US imperialism.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the US has finally overreached itself. God willing it won’t take us all down with it.
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It’s in Venezuela’s interests to support Iran and hope that the Iranian regime survives for as long as possible. Because Iran is at the head of the list for regime change and Venzuela would take over as enemy number one if Washington succeeded in toppling the Iranian government and installing a pro-Western one.
I hate “appropriate”.
Si, Viva Chavez
helping his own, unlike here bush and co helping only thier own
Viva El Frente/Verde
hang in public all texas assholes and their cronies
1776 again, bloody revolution
Last year, after the opening of the UN General Assembly–IN REPRISAL for Chavez’ comment about the linger smell of sulfur on the podim (not realizing that that is what good ole Texas barcbecue farts smell like), Foreign Minister Nicolas Madura was harrassed and strip-searched in the airport when trying to board his flight to Miami.
He is a big guy, though–and with big balls. When Condolences Rice tried to throw her weight around at the OAS meeting in Panama in June–insisting that the OAS send a committee to Venezuela to investigate the government’s failure to renew the tv concession for RCTV–Madura suggested that maybe there could be a OAS commission to investigate the murders of undocumented workers from Mexico and Central America in Arizona.
Rice got up and hustled her bony ass out of there as fast as her $500 Ferragamo shoes could take her. Those were the same shoes she bought while folks drowned in New Orleans–those folks she told to EAT CAKE?
So, Maduro is on a roll this year. And he tells it like it is. Just try strip-sewarching him again, fascist pigs.
Chunga’s Revenge October 4th, 2007 8:56 am
Listen if I think the entire article is relevant to supporting the long line of threads to sum up RELEVANT facts for clarity I WILL POST IT…this fortunately is rare but so be it…end of story
simonhhh - Well hurray for you and F*** the rest of us eh?
Should the US invade another country under false pretenses and without provocation, and lacking the full support of American citizens then I would, even though I am peaceful by nature, like to see the following occur:
1. The UN immediately move to Geneva abandoning New York and the USA.
2. The UN to immediately label the USA a rogue fascist nation and a terrorist.
3. The UN and the world abandon the American Dollar in favor of the Euro.
4. Sanctions imposed on the USA by the UN embargoing all weapons trade and all exports and imports to or from the US.
5. American passports and visas revoked by all peace-loving nations and Americans everywhere sent home immediately to sort out their nation.
6. All American assets in foreign banks frozen.
7. The Minutemen return to oust the Elite and restore democracy and sensitivity to America.
Should American invade a line will have to be drawn. America and the corporatocracy needs to learn that it cannot, with impunity, continue to pursue its present course and threaten the peace and security of the entire world.
However, I doubt the world has the stomach or spine to do this. Nobody wants another world war, except of course, the Bush America.
And frankly, neither do I, the above is just wishful thinking if the Badministration continues to demonize Iran and push forward on the next sacrifice to the American God, Mars.
Enn your seven points are extremely relevant to a ‘rogue administration’ which Bu$hCo’s regime has become…It is interesting to note American payments in dues to the UN are 1.57 Billion dollars in arrears…In a perfect world your are not just appropriate but enshrined in the UN charter…Oh I forgot, USA can Veto and recent Administration ‘ogres’ [appointees] to the UN ambassador post have cited; “how irrelevant the UN is”?#$#$&*%
Perhaps for the obvious reason if the correct legal statues or charter were correctly enforced and supported..surprise surprise the UN would be highly relevant..
Ohhhh I forgot, BushCo would have to abide by international law and become signatory to the International Criminal Justice Court..Funny how fascists rubbish things that get in their way!
Hey Chunga’s Revenge we could all put money in a basket and send you on a ’speed reading course’..It makes me laugh when I was doing my masters research I must have read hundreds of thousands of words and it nearly sent me blind…Atleast you can’t claim I made you short sighted….
Peace to all progressive thinkers of our time…
simonhhh - I had already read the article you posted. I was really referring to a matter of netiquette. I was not really trying to chastise you or make big fat hairy deal of it, I can always scroll past anything I don’t want to read or have already seen. I do tend to follow links posted in the blog more readily than reading reposted articles that take up a lot of space in the blog.
Regardless I find much value in your points of view so keep on keeping on.
Peace to you and yours,
Slowly the walls which shield our dishonesty will fall. Posada will likley die in peace in Miami, as will the “wet dreams” of Cubanos in Miami. Dreamers, who have no notion of what Cuba has become and who are oblivious to the reality that Cubanos in Cuba do not want a return to pre-Castro days.