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The Origin of America’s Intellectual Vacuum
The blacklisted mathematics instructor Chandler Davis, after serving six months in the Danbury federal penitentiary for refusing to cooperate with the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), warned the universities that ousted him and thousands of other professors that the purges would decimate the country's intellectual life.
"You must welcome dissent; you must welcome serious, systematic, proselytizing dissent-not only the playful, the fitful, or the eclectic; you must value it enough, not merely to refrain from expelling it yourselves, but to refuse to have it torn from you by outsiders," he wrote in his 1959 essay "...From an Exile." "You must welcome dissent not in a whisper when alone, but publicly so potential dissenters can hear you. What potential dissenters see now is that you accept an academic world from which we are excluded for our thoughts. This is a manifest signpost over all your arches, telling them: Think at your peril. You must not let it stand. You must (defying outside power; gritting your teeth as we grit ours) take us back."
But they did not take Davis back. Davis, whom I met a few days ago in Toronto, could not find a job after his prison sentence and left for Canada. He has spent his career teaching mathematics at the University of Toronto. He was one of the lucky ones. Most of the professors ousted from universities never taught again. Radical and left-wing ideas were effectively stamped out. The purges, most carried out internally and away from public view, announced to everyone inside the universities that dissent was not protected. The confrontation of ideas was killed.
"Political discourse has been impoverished since then," Davis said. "In the 1930s it was understood by anyone who thought about it that sales taxes were regressive. They collected more proportionately from the poor than from the rich. Regressive taxation was bad for the economy. If only the rich had money, that decreased economic activity. The poor had to spend what they had and the rich could sit on it. Justice demands that we take more from the rich so as to reduce inequality. This philosophy was not refuted in the 1950s and it was not the target of the purge of the 1950s. But this idea, along with most ideas concerning economic justice and people's control over the economy, was cleansed from the debate. Certain ideas have since become unthinkable, which is in the interest of corporations such as Goldman Sachs. The power to exclude certain ideas serves the power of corporations. It is unfortunate that there is no political party in the United States to run against Goldman Sachs. I am in favor of elections, but there is no way I can vote against Goldman Sachs."
The silencing of radicals such as Davis, who had been a member of the Communist Party, although he had left it by the time he was investigated by HUAC, has left academics and intellectuals without the language, vocabulary of class war and analysis to critique the ideology of globalism, the savagery of unfettered capitalism and the ascendancy of the corporate state. And while the turmoil of the 1960s saw discontent sweep through student bodies with some occasional support from faculty, the focus was largely limited to issues of identity politics-feminism, anti-racism-and the anti-war movements. The broader calls for socialism, the detailed Marxist critique of capitalism, the open rejection of the sanctity of markets, remained muted or unheard. Davis argues that not only did socialism and communism become outlaw terms, but once these were tagged as heresies, the right wing tried to make liberal, secular and pluralist outlaw terms as well. The result is an impoverishment of ideas and analysis at a moment when we desperately need radical voices to make sense of the corporate destruction of the global economy and the ecosystem. The "centrist" liberals manage to retain a voice in mainstream society because they pay homage to the marvels of corporate capitalism even as it disembowels the nation and the planet.
"Repression does not target original thought," Davis noted. "It targets already established heretical movements, which are not experimental but codified. If it succeeds very well in punishing heresies, it may in the next stage punish originality. And in the population, fear of uttering such a taboo word as communism may in the next stage become general paralysis of social thought."
It is this paralysis he watches from Toronto. It is a paralysis he predicted. Opinions and questions regarded as possible in the 1930s are, he mourns, now forgotten and no longer part of intellectual and political debate. And perhaps even more egregiously the fight and struggle of radical communists, socialists and anarchists in the 1930s against lynching, discrimination, segregation and sexism were largely purged from the history books. It was as if the civil rights movement led by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had no antecedents in the battles of the Wobblies as well as the socialist and communist movements.
"Even the protests that were organized entirely by Trotskyists were written out of history," Davis noted acidly.
Those who remained in charge of American intellectual thought went on to establish the wider "heresy of leftism" in the name of academic objectivity. And they have succeeded. Universities stand as cowardly, mute and silent accomplices of the corporate state, taking corporate money and doing corporate bidding. And those with a conscience inside the walls of the university understand that tenure and promotion require them to remain silent.
"Not only were a number of us driven out of the American academic scene, our questions were driven out," said Davis, who at 84 continues to work as emeritus professor of mathematics at the University of Toronto. "Ideas which were on the agenda a hundred years ago and sixty years ago have dropped out of memory because they are too far from the new center of discourse."
Davis has published science fiction stories, is the editor of The Mathematical Intelligencer and is an innovator in the theory of operators and matrices. He is a director of Science for Peace. He also writes poetry. His nimble mind ranges swiftly in our conversation over numerous disciplines and he speaks with the enthusiasm and passion of a new undergraduate. His commitment to radical politics remains fierce and undiminished. And he believes that the loss of his voice and the voices of thousands like him, many of whom were never members of the Communist Party but had the courage to challenge the orthodoxy of the Cold War and corporate capitalism, deadened intellectual and political discourse in the United States.
During World War II Davis joined the Navy and worked on the minesweeping research program. But by the end of the war, with the saturation bombings of Dresden and Tokyo, as well as the dropping of the nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he came to regret his service in the military. He has spent most of his life working in a variety of anti-war and anti-nuclear movements.
"In retrospect I am sorry I didn't declare myself as a conscientious objector," he said. "Not at the beginning of the war, because if you are ever going to use military force for anything, that was a situation in which I would be happy to do it. I was wholehearted about that. But once I knew about the destruction of Dresden and the other massacres of civilian populations by the Allies, I think the ethical thing to do would have been to declare myself a CO."
He was a "Red diaper baby." His father was a professor, union agitator and member of the old Communist Party who was hauled in front of HUAC shortly before his son. Davis grew up reading New Masses and moved from one city to the next because of his father's frequent firings.
"I was raised in the movement," he said. "It wasn't a cinch I would be in the Communist Party, but in fact I was, starting in 1943 and then resigning soon after on instructions from the party because I was in the military service. This was part of the coexistence of the Communist Party with Roosevelt and the military. It would not disrupt things during the war. When I got out of the Navy I rejoined the Communist Party, but that lapsed in June of 1953. I never got back in touch with them. At the time I was subpoenaed I was technically an ex-Communist, but I did not feel I had left the movement and in some sense I never did."
Davis got his doctorate from Harvard in mathematics and seemed in the 1950s destined for a life as a professor. But the witch hunts directed against "Reds" swiftly ended his career on the University of Michigan faculty. He mounted a challenge to the Committee on Un-American Activities that went to the Supreme Court. The court, ruling in 1960, three years after Joseph McCarthy was dead, denied Davis' assertion that the committee had violated the First Amendment protection of freedom of speech. He was sent to prison. Davis, while incarcerated, authored a research paper that had an acknowledgement reading: "Research supported in part by the Federal Prison System. Opinions expressed in this paper are the author's and are not necessarily those of the Bureau of Prisons."
Davis, who has lived in Canada longer than he lived in the United States, said that his experience of marginalization was "good for the soul and better for the intellect."
"Though you see the remnants of the former academic left still, though some of us were never fired, though I return to the United States from my exile frequently, we are gone," he said. "We did not survive as we were. Some of us saved our skins without betraying others or ourselves. But almost all of the targets either did crumble or were fired and blacklisted. David Bohm and Moses Finley and Jules Dassin and many less celebrated people were forced into exile. Most of the rest had to leave the academic world. A few suffered suicide or other premature death. There weren't the sort of wholesale casualties you saw in Argentina or El Salvador, but the Red-hunt did succeed in axing a lot of those it went after, and cowing most of the rest. We were out, and we were kept out."
"I was a scientist four years past my Ph.D. and the regents' decision was to extinguish, it seemed, my professional career," he said. "What could they do now to restore to me 35 years of that life? If it could be done, I would refuse. The life I had is my life. It's not that I'm all that pleased with what I've made of my life, yet I sincerely rejoice that I lived it, that I don't have to be Professor X who rode out the 1950s and 1960s in his academic tenure and his virtuously anti-Communist centrism."
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Show AllThanks for another great essay that cuts to the quick and gets to the root of another big problem: anti-intellectualism here in America. Bravo, Chris! There are far too many people here in the United States who need to be shaken up. Keep on with your good work!
"...the root of another big problem: anti-intellectualism..."
I'd be careful swinging around the "anti-intellectualism" label. Some of the anti-intellectuals I know are actually against the same thing Mr. Davis is: the system approved, harmless and homogenous pap spoon-fed to college students everywhere and the, at times, elitist attitudes that surface once consumed.
What Mr. Davis describes was and is a war on critical thinking and subversive opinions and that is not the exclusive domain of "intellectuals".
In the US college graduates and others who advocate or demonstrate critical thinking are called conspiracy theorists by most college graduates.
John Lennon's WORKING CLASS HERO debuted 40 years ago and sums it up.
Exactly Ray!
"And you think you're so clever and classless and free,
But you're still fucking peasents as far as I can see"
- John Lennon, Working Class hero
If that's a quote from John Lennon, then drb should have quoted it. Didn't Lennon later explain what he meant by that quote? Some of working class stiffs might have felt offended and would have appreciated an explanation or an apology. He could have just said "Intelligence does not change the class you're in" as an equivalent without the f-word. Otherwise, I appreciate his message.
And you think you're so clever and classless and free.
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see.
That was a very rude response. I've known Ray on this forum and I like his intelligent and good mannered posts. Ray is a mentor trying to figure out what's to be done with young Americans a little younger than me (I'm 26). Do you have to be a rude jerk going negative? Even peasants can be intelligent. Now is not the time to insult and divide others. You owe Ray an apology.
Marco Nanto
Well said.
What was written is a quote from "Working Class Hero" by John Lennon. Ray mentioned it. You are at a disadvantage in that the song was written years before you were born, and never got much airplay due to some of the words, let alone the political nature of it. Sorry, but you are reacting to something you are ignorant of. That is dangerous, and you've just shown us all WHY.
"Sorry, but you are reacting to something you are ignorant of. That is dangerous, and you've just shown us all WHY."
I have no idea as to how you could jump to such a faulty conclusion but it would help to explain how we got there and what you believe could be done to get us out of it so that people like me are better informed. I read the article and disagree that one person moving to Canada is the solution we liberals and progressives must take. But I agree with Hedges that the remaining intelligent people on the left went elitist out of fear. The fundamental weakness I see among us progressives and liberals is using intelligence as a yardstick and a litmus test to classify people as progressives or conservatives and this is 100% wrong. The elitists love it when we're divided and calling each other ignorant and dangerous without a basis. I know John Lennon a little but if he were alive, I don't believe he'd be that rude and disrespectful.
I could be wrong of course, but I always was thought it was all about liberating the "peasants" and the serfs. John Lennon wrote great music, that's it.
It seems you didn't even understand the article you feel so compelled to comment on. To say you "disagree that one person moving to Canada is the solution we liberals and progressives must take," bears no relation to anything Hedges wrote. He never suggests that moving to Canada is a "solution" to anything. But I fear explaining any of this would only confuse you further and I'd be accused of "going negative" or being "rude and disrepectful".
Anyway, Hedges also doesn't remotely imply that "the remaining intelligent people on the left went elitist out of fear." Whatever you mean by that is completely unclear, even if it's indirectly arguable, if it were minimally clarified. I guess, for an admirer of mighty mite, all this is to be expected.
It's you I really treasure in my gallery Ephraim! Thanks!!
"It seems you didn't even understand the article you feel so compelled to comment on."
We both read the same article but must have thought differently. So what is your thought on the article so that I can see why you believe I have no understanding of him? I'm open to all views but do I have to see things one and only one way?
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"To say you "disagree that one person moving to Canada is the solution we liberals and progressives must take," bears no relation to anything Hedges wrote. He never suggests that moving to Canada is a "solution" to anything."
I based that conclusion from these two parts of his article:
"But they did not take Davis back. Davis, whom I met a few days ago in Toronto, could not find a job after his prison sentence and left for Canada. He has spent his career teaching mathematics at the University of Toronto. He was one of the lucky ones. Most of the professors ousted from universities never taught again. Radical and left-wing ideas were effectively stamped out. The purges, most carried out internally and away from public view, announced to everyone inside the universities that dissent was not protected. The confrontation of ideas was killed. "
"Davis, who has lived in Canada longer than he lived in the United States, said that his experience of marginalization was "good for the soul and better for the intellect." "
Do you understand now? I am completely open to having my thinking corrected without the need to insult by the way.
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"But I fear explaining any of this would only confuse you further and I'd be accused of "going negative" or being "rude and disrepectful". "
Where do you derive such faulty reasoning from? I don't accuse anyone of going negative or being disrespectful or rude unless someone says something for me to call them out on it. If you want to explain, then just explain and get it off your chest. I'll take care of whatever attacks come from it.
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"Anyway, Hedges also doesn't remotely imply that "the remaining intelligent people on the left went elitist out of fear." Whatever you mean by that is completely unclear, even if it's indirectly arguable, if it were minimally clarified."
Then explain this part of his article:
"The silencing of radicals such as Davis, who had been a member of the Communist Party, although he had left it by the time he was investigated by HUAC, has left academics and intellectuals without the language, vocabulary of class war and analysis to critique the ideology of globalism, the savagery of unfettered capitalism and the ascendancy of the corporate state. And while the turmoil of the 1960s saw discontent sweep through student bodies with some occasional support from faculty, the focus was largely limited to issues of identity politics-feminism, anti-racism-and the anti-war movements. The broader calls for socialism, the detailed Marxist critique of capitalism, the open rejection of the sanctity of markets, remained muted or unheard. Davis argues that not only did socialism and communism become outlaw terms, but once these were tagged as heresies, the right wing tried to make liberal, secular and pluralist outlaw terms as well. The result is an impoverishment of ideas and analysis at a moment when we desperately need radical voices to make sense of the corporate destruction of the global economy and the ecosystem. The "centrist" liberals manage to retain a voice in mainstream society because they pay homage to the marvels of corporate capitalism even as it disembowels the nation and the planet."
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"I guess, for an admirer of mighty mite, all this is to be expected."
What does mighty mite have to do with his? I admire everyone including you but I just say it when I feel like it from time to time usually when someone is being insulted when they shouldn't be and I feel like reviving their spirits. I didn't say I agreed with everything mighty mite says and I'll call him out when I can time permitting. You're making a faulty conclusion out of something irrelevant and this is part of why radical left is voiceless. I hope you read my reply in full and understand where I'm at. I apologize for whatever I said that threw you off but I hope you'll understand and I'll accept feedback. Just don't hurt me please.
I forget what he explaination he gave but it was not a slam against the working class that is for sure and what I recall as to his explaination..information overload I guess just hang onto essentials. Since you are curious as to suggestions and insights if you haven't read the Communist Manifesto I would highly recommend it to understand the basic "laws of nature" of capitalist development. Marx was much more accurate in his prognostications than Nostradamus ever was and it seems more people are familiar with him than Marx...this is not a coincidence. Second I would read Trotsky as Alternative, I suggested this in another post but since I saw your appeal for information I felt a responsibility to respond.
Cheers,
RR
Thanks for the feedback Rocky. I shall add those two readings to the list.
If you would also like a look at a more scholarly western style authorship E.M. Woods Democracy
Against Capitalism is a great read as far as I am concerned. I would consider her an academic Marxist. The Monthly Review is probably the safest place to get good peer reviewed material written from an academic marxist perspective and thus the proper pedigree for this audience perhaps and for some really excellent polemics on the topics of the day the International Communist League a Trotskyist group puts out another top flight publication. And one has to admit, Marxism has produced some wonderful academics over the years-what you are getting here is material I recommeded for a mandatory second and third year university course I worked at as a teaching assistant while I got a degree in sociology a number of years back. I am certainly not up on all rote readings and facts and figures in the sectarian debates of the day. Those sectarian debates sure keep one on their toes I would say and doesn't mean everyone wouldn't come together in a United Front in the porper circumstances....But it is not easy being a Marxist in the belly of the beast that I will tell you for sure. Chris got that part right.
Cheers,
RR
The response you decry is a line from the Lennon song---"Working Class Hero".
WJM-Higgs
Are you two responding to drb48's comment or Marco Nanto's. Ray had mentioned it but drb48 posted it without quotes and after Ray and Kiely so I believe that was a not so nice rebuttle to Ray.
Could you guy's make clear who you are speaking to?
Posting time could suggest differently but the lack of quotes was the deciding factor for me.
I was simply quoting a line from the song I felt reflected the topic of the article... as did others apparently.
I said "Exactly Ray!" in my post because I agreed with him. I simply provided a quote from the song he mentioned that I felt was appropriate to the topic. No disrespect to anyone (except perhaps to elitist "intellectuals" ; ) was meant.
Kiely
I'm sorry, I was referring to drb48's comment, not yours. Nothing wrong with your's at all.
And perhaps he just forgot the quotation marks.
What's the best book on John Lennon that I can pick up and read on so that I might not be labeled as "dangerous" and "ignorant"? I think John Lennon's quotes are being taken out of context but I'd like to educate myself on him so that I might be helpful. I'd appreciate it.
Just listen to the music.
Oh, and don't concern yourself with being labeled "Ignorant" and "dangerous"... we are all ignorant to one extent or another and all ignorance is dangerous. It is a label we could all wear if we're being 100% honest with ourselves ; )
Search for Tariq Ali's interview with Lennon. It's one of his class-heavier interviews on record.
And maybe let's all let this mountainous molehill recede for a bit.
"And maybe let's all let this mountainous molehill recede for a bit."
Good idea.
My personal reaction to WORKING CLASS HERO 40 years ago was that the overall statement the song made was very thought provoking and perhaps Lennon threw in some extreme lyrics that he anticipated would lead listeners to challenge him. He and Yoko were always up for a challenge during that era.
I know Lennon was well versed haha with Trotskyism and hung out with a few fellow travellers who fought very hard to let him into the country Nixon hated/feared him-that inspired the song Imagine. "You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one, we hope some day you'll join us and the world will live as one"
Ok so hope this helps clarify I often wondered what he meant myself until I read it not long ago. I don't know about anybody else but sometimes I feel like I am writing on the bathroom wall given that homeland security spies on environmental groups and tips off corporations about their activities and reports on gay rights parades like really. I wonder why they don't do the samething regarding the teaparty or haven't heard much about the militia men lately-furture brown shirts at the ready to be called upon in an "emergency" "Show us your papers" insecurity state we have become...even in Canada you say...U Betcha!
RR
Try pessimists. Unless you wax poetic about THE American way of life
and content yourself with enhancing your personal wealth and little
world at the expense of the rest of humanity you are seen as plain
stupid. The working man, to these yuppie wannabes is a loser.
In a culture where image is everything it's all about the narcissistic
self-indulgence of being seen as a winner even if you have to go
into debt or care little about inequality, injustice and the pillage
and plundering of natural ecosystems in order to procure one's petty
and self-absorbed lifestyle. It's a culture of me and mine. To hell with
anyone else. It is now an official staple of being a good American that
thou shall NOT voice truth, rather find the ways to corrupt yourself
sufficiently in order to join the higher ranks in the food chain. All
of the dominant political, economic, social,educational,and religious
institutions are there to help promote/cuddle/enforce the system's pecking
order. If one dares question their validity you become a target of their ire
and risk becoming a social outcast. Conform and reap material rewards,
resist in selling out and pretty much secure yourself a life of material
poverty unless you happen to be a rock star.
Why do people work? For the nobility of it? Is sweat, and labor, and not using your brain, or a refined skill a more noble calling?
Or do people work to improve their lot in life – PROVIDE for their families, and loved ones and themselves? Give them a better education, a better home, a more secure future?
Or will a perfect society be set up, where if we all pool our labor (never needing to specialize, never needing to compete) everyone will have all their needs taken care of (forgetting the need to actually be autonomous and self-sufficient), and humanity will of course be happy, all lined up in a row, with everyone having exactly the same as everyone else.
That is what you want?
Property is education and knowledge. Property is art that is useless to "society's needs". Property is the private contents of my mind, my personal thoughts that I owe to nobody. Property is my right to decide for myself what is right for my organism, and the organisms that are my ward. Property is my personal access to the means of production.
I inherited my organic legacy from billions of years of evolution, and I'll tell you, I will not turn over my evolution, and my hard-earned possessions, to the imagination draining, anti-individualist far left.
Property is balance. I do not advocate a world where we are all poor, but where everyone has at least the minimum rights, and comforts, and if you can do better than just that for yourself, by all means, please do. Why would you take that away from us working class people?
You make less sense all the time, but it's too much effort taking apart your ludicrous assertions, coming from several angles at once, and your strutting "philosophy." I'm tired being subjected to your pro-capitalist "progressive" drivel that always targets the real left as "imagination draining anti-individualists" who only want everyone lined up in beige rows, doing and having equal access to everything, while powerful producers and geniuses like yourself are reduced to the leveling forces of the common herd. You're like the child of Ayn Rand, sired by FDR.
Yeah, I make it tough for the great intellectuals here to pick apart my 'ludicrous assertions' don't I? Maybe because they aren't quite as 'ludicrous' as you would smear them to be?
"your strutting "philosophy."
What's this supposed to mean? Is not the incessant posting of Marxist doctrine a 'strutting' of that "philosophy"?
RE: "drivel that always targets the real left as "imagination draining anti-individualists" who only want everyone lined up in beige rows, doing and having equal access to everything, "
I didn't call them the 'real left', as I represent the 'real left'. I generally would call this group the 'hard left', or the strict Marxists, or the militant socialists. These are authoritarians, and my approach to socialism opposes their militancy, and attitudes about property, individualism and free-thought.
RE: "while powerful producers and geniuses like yourself are reduced to the leveling forces of the common herd."
Talk about 'ludicrous assertions' and 'drivel'
RE: "You're like the child of Ayn Rand, sired by FDR."
Not intentionally wanting to set off any ideology alarms here on CD, but I won't deny – that doesn't sound so bad.
(maybe a little unpleasant to visualize, but the results seem decent to me)
In some ways you represent much of what Hedges writes about here. By asserting that you represent "the real left," a hybrid of Ayn Rand and FDR (by your own admission), you illustrate how utterly hollowed out the left, in your prespective, has become since old leftists like Davis were hounded out of academia in the US. You always characterize what you call the "hard left", or those who don't share your private property-defending views, your meritocracy views, as one-dimensional Maoist or Stalinist caricatures. There are many variations today of socialism, but you consider yours and yours alone the TRUE one. Even if you don't call it socialism, which I know is a bad word for you.
There are a few that post here who conform to strict Marxist doctrine, but they're in the minority. I'm no proponent of that, either, btw. I don't have an ideological school, tend to be more eclectic than sits well with those dreaded Marxist purists you're so fixated on. But I sure as hell can't see any way to philosophically defend a comingling of Ayn Rand with FDR's liberalism. You're a smart guy. Read some Chomsky. Read a lot of Chomsky. I was persuaded by his arguments for left libertarianism, or socialist anarchism, 30 years ago. I haven't seen anything since to dissuade me.
"but you consider yours and yours alone the TRUE one."
No I do not. Honestly. I support a huge swath of the American public that I simply call "reasonable", and that can come with any tag or label someone wants to put on it. I just consider classic Marxists, and those who espouse a possessionless society as not reasonable.
" Even if you don't call it socialism, which I know is a bad word for you. "
I love the word. I consider myself a hybrid, and certainly at least partially socialist, as I have repeated on numerous occasions. I am a 'free-as-possible'-market socialist. I support the separation of the market into two tiers of essential goods and services (serving universal social goods) and a non-essentials market (serving individuals/specialized goods). The former set, including our infrastructure, our military and our healthcare system (which I think should be part of our military budget) would all be handled under government, i.e. socialist jurisdiction. The latter, still with the necessary social oversight in place, would be handled by members of the free market.
I also believe in socialist models such as the Mon Dragon collective that is able to compete with private interests by benefiting from their own local social niches, but on the macro-economic level, I don't see strict Socialism working well with the diverse populations that inhabit Earth. Ethnic and cultural identity are discouraged in strict socialist models. Tradition and spiritualism is discouraged. So I think on the macro level, we need to stick to the least regulation possible, i.e. free-as-possible-markets to respect the diversity of people of the planet.
Very reasonable positions.
So- a combination of Mondragon and the NEP. Not bad.But I would be inclined to turn the thing on its head, and regulate the hell out of the macro-economic side, and let the rest rip. Free markets benefit the strong, and are no respecters of the "diversity of people on the planet." The Manchester School, in its various incarnations, has been around for a long time, and to me, at least, seems nothing more than intellectual cover for plunder.
I am much more in favor of robust local economies, and oppose international mega-corporate monopolies as much as possible. I would like to see us bring back some level of market protectionism, and even market balkanization. That's part of what I call "Free-as-possible-markets", being limited insomuch that they must be a utility, not a threat to We The People.
As far as artisan, and small business trade, I have little issue with encouraging globalization. This serves the interest of the people. But the insanely unbalanced markets, and obviously criminal agendas set by the big economic powers and imposed upon the host (as in parasitic host) nations of the developing world need to be changed, as they only serve entrenched, oligarchic interests, and thwart the interests of the masses.
And of course the problem is this: The crooks in the minority, they have all the dollars, they are armed to the teeth, and have largely hijacked our government via their political agents in the DemoRepublicrat duopoly.
What do we do?
All the leftists adopt a more populist, inclusive message, with clear goals, and unifying language. We form a massive coalition of all disenfranchised Americans, with left leaning, but common sense objectives that first and foremost address the cataclysmic issues of ecological sustainability, and the trade imbalances and exploitative capital practices that threaten global instability, civil strife, and potentially global conflagration.
"market protectionism"
I'll drink to that - every locale needs to "protect" it's people and other members of its habitat, and the biosphere they depend on from outside predation, as a necessary prerequisite of "sustainability", such protection must include the "markets" we exchange in. We need to expand the definition in the public mind of what "protection" and "security" means beyond "blowing up terrorists".
I have said to folks "How secure is a country that doesn't even make it's own underwear anymore?" Crazy? Maybe, but I think it's a good icebreaker ...
I think this is a good place to start and i think it would have a ready ear. We on the left do have to completely get over this "market model of life" concept, which we seem to cling to as evidenced by merely substituting "fair" for "free" markets in our discussions ...
Believe me, the corps are quite secure in their belief that they have defanged "socialism", except for themselves, as a threat, but they know there are growing murmurs for the "P" word and they are worried indeed. Want to cut the corps off at the knees? Keep talking up the "p" word. Is that all that is necessary to defang them? Nope, but it's a damn good start and they smell the possibility in the air ...
In any case, it will, by definition, be a necessary prerequisite for any viable move toward sustainability for ourselves and the rest of the planet .....
Sounds like we're on the same page. Today I spent some time on the internet sourcing some piston rings for an obscure ancient motorcycle.I was informed by a friend in Limey Land, that there were many local specialty ring suppliers in his country-to which I replied "that's because you have the remains of an industiral economy, as opposed to what we've got." Limeys re-building 100 year old machine tools so they can make steam engine parts, Limeys constructing CNC lathes from junk computer parts. Rule of thumb: spend no money, or as close to none as possible.This kind of creative funk seems to be a British specialty, but I doubt it's the way forward for the rest of us. I like your last paragraph, but despair at the possibility of anything like that coming about. I'm getting tired of having to re-invent the wheel.
" I doubt it's the way forward for the rest of us."
I think it is precisely a way forward, and i do believe that it used to be an American specialty and can be again ...
As far as reinventing the wheel I think it is time to take back those old standby phrases like "good old American ingenuity" from the right and use them to illustrate the things we are talking about here ....
This is more of the kind of discussion I'm talking about.
Once the vast majority of the populace actually realizes is has some true common interests (why are the disenfranchised so divided?), and once the left can agree on a core set of reasonable arguments and the rock solid language to translate it from the intelligentsia to the town halls and board rooms, and then into the streets, that's when the return of American can-do-ism can come back into play.
It may be optimistic to hope for, but I often think if we could just get a small majority of the people to actually act in the better interests of the majority, we would be doing alright.
And If we could ever get a message out that could convince only a small fraction of the affluent to make the correct changes and adjustments needed, and serve as an example for others, that small group could be the catalyst that sets far more profound changes in motion. One can only hope.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead.
Amen! I have been making ongoing suggestions for some time in Green party meetings that we need to simplify and explain all these "complex" ideas in ways that folks can relate to and understand. It is rather amusing, when you think about it, that it is harder to simplify a complex subject than to "complexify" a simple one, but that is what we need to do. Elegance in simplicity.
I completely agree and have myself been arguing for some time that we need to focus on the things we have in common and build from there.
The Margaret Mead quote - i am looking at right now on a poster i have in my living room .....
yeah good old American Ingenutiy spends a million to design a pen that will write in space and flow properly in a gravity free environment and the Soviets just used a pencil...No wonder they were first in space and gee how long has that space station been going up there anyway....seems to be a lot to be said for socialized property forms and thinking!
'Salusa Secundus' - The Emperors prison planet in Frank Herbert's opus 'Dune', where the elite and terroristically brutal Saudakar troops trained and lived a life of relative luxury compared to the average citizen.
An interesting choice for a handle on CD, and perhaps a Freudian slip that reveals a bit too much about your inner workings, hmm?
My nym is meant as a warning.
Salusa Secundus was once "a green world of temperate climate, home to hundreds of millions of free humans in the League of Nobles. Abundant water flowed through open aqueducts. Around the cultural and governmental center of Zimia, rolling hills were embroidered with vineyards and olive groves."
Due to widespread war the planet is reduced to ashes, and transformed into a vast penal colony and training ground for ruthless imperial military troops.
My fight is to ensure that Earth does not become Salusa Secundus.
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But I have been considering changing it lately as it may send the wrong impression, and could serve as a springboard for insinuations by the less ethically scrupulous debaters among us.
No one has posted any "Marxist doctrine" to speak of, and your red-baiting attacks on the Left are getting pretty old.
You have absolutely no evidence for calling people "authoritarians" because they are left wing. You are trying to smear people again.
"No one has posted any "Marxist doctrine" to speak of, and your red-baiting attacks on the Left are getting pretty old."
He didn't say that anyone was doing that. I see no evidence of his attacking the left. He's trying to be inclusive of left-leaning libertarianism. In today's article on Michael Moore, I came across Cassandra's description of the FDA as she explained to me about a food safety bill that could be a corporate trap bill in disguise. If we on the left are not watching out for these traps, then who are we?
"You have absolutely no evidence for calling people "authoritarians" because they are left wing. You are trying to smear people again."
As a young Democrat/Green, I feel that some of the old left is too harsh. I would listen carefully to Salusa and see what we're missing. Ephraim made the mistake and Salusa's correcting him on that.
I do and am Marxist.
RR
BTW this produce locally petite little commodity producer gets pretty embedded in a culture of independent commodity producers like farmers. Unfortunately the gennie is out of the bottle and things can be more cheaply and efficiently produced globablly, that is why I consider such ramblings nonesense-when I want to be more polite I would say they are Utopian-more Utopian than a scientifically planned democractically administered economy would be in achieving-that is my basic definition of socialism. Why Utopian? 1) tough luck if you are one of the billions on the planet that live in a city and 2) there is no need for a number two.
RR
"...I will not turn over my evolution, and my hard-earned possessions,"
Please do. They're all yours. You can carry them.
"I do not advocate a world where we are all poor..."
"Poor" is a loaded word. One can be financially rich and emotionally, intellectually and even physically "poor".
Consumer stuff has no real value, money has no real value... life has value. If the majority of things we buy with our money brought richness to our lives than perhaps advocating against being poor would mean something. The notion that property has any real significant value to anyone is the biggest scam perpetrated on the "working class" (besides perhaps being the working class). Most of our "property" is meant to draw attention away from how impoverished our lives truly are.
""Poor" is a loaded word. One can be financially rich and emotionally, intellectually and even physically "poor"."
No doubt.
"Consumer stuff has no real value,"
In the spirit of what you say, I agree. But in the specifics this can't really be held as a truism. A consumer is simply a person who buys... we cannot determine the value of stuff, not knowing what it is. Many things a consumer might buy have immense value, far moreso in many cases than what was originally paid.
"money has no real value..."
Depends what it stands for, but today... yes, this is becoming more the case. But if your money has no value... can you send it all to me?
"life has value."
And this is an important point: A life of endless work for little reward, that is not a life of much value. This world is full of riches (not all material), full of miraculous experience, sensation, natural wonders, endless vistas of contemplation...
Denying anyone the full range of possibility, stratifying all possible outcomes to rule out unexpected, unforeseen contingencies, that is not part of a life of value.
RE:"The notion that property has any real significant value to anyone is the biggest scam perpetrated on the "working class" (besides perhaps being the working class). "
I would contend the opposite. To contend that some may have the say over others as to how all property is managed, that is totalitarianism.
I do espouse that we nationalize, or at least highly regulate and tax industries that harvest and profit from natural resources belonging to the commons. I do espouse strong, but not impractical market and trade regulation. But to accept these notions that would strip the working class and the investor class of their properties is a type of madness I won't entertain.
I also espouse that we as a society have a right to deprive any individual of possessions received illegally, unfairly, or in a surreptitious manner (as determined by democratic due-process), and from those who show abusive or criminal malfeasance in the managing or stewardship of said possessions.
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So am I the madman because I believe in the individuals right to control and maintain property and the means of production? The thing is, considering today's technology, and the low cost of the means of production, almost every American can now have it at their disposal. In some ways, life really is getting better for the average person/worker. And until the Reagan era, most charts would have been pointing upwards.
Yes, were now in a crunch, and severe, serious reform is immanently needed, but is it really time to fight for full-on socialist revolution in America? Do people really think they know what that means?