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Scott Fitzgerald and Wisconsin GOP Pull Back From the Brink
Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald has backed off a March 14 announcement that he would effectively eliminate Senate Democrats' right to vote during committee hearings and sessions. At first glance, it may appear that Fitzgerald and company are retreating from weeks of out-of-control decision-making, but the more likely explanation is that blocking votes may be unconstitutional and illegal. Plus, the move was completely contrary to Fitzgerald's prior claims that he was only trying to force the fourteen back into Wisconsin and "back to work." In a temporary win for legislative sanity, Fitzgerald seems to have backed down for now.
Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R) and Glenn Grothman (L) before the start of a Senate hearing at the state Capitol in Madison, Wisconsin, February 25, 2011. (REUTERS/Darren Hauck) Because citizens speak in the legislature through their elected officials, the 2.2 million residents of Senate districts represented by Democrats would have been silenced by Fitzgerald's new rules. At least one Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice has argued that, because citizen speech flows through their elected officials, voters' First Amendment rights are violated if a representative's vote is "cancelled by the acts of others."
While Fitzgerald would likely respond that residents in Democratic senate districts were already disenfranchised when their senator fled the state, that assertion is easily rebuffed: those senators, acting on their own volition, took an affirmative act to delay passage of a bill they believed would adversely impact their constituents. Fleeing the state is analogous to a filibuster or a decision to abstain from a vote. Democrats denying quorum was intended to influence the outcome of legislation and to shape public debate to favor their constituency's interests. In contrast, Fitzgerald's refusal to count Democratic votes would be prohibiting any action on behalf of the Democrat's constituents.
Additionally, Fitzgerald's decision raises 14th Amendment Equal Protection issues, as it will disproportionately silence the state's African American and Latino populations. Wisconsin's populations of color are concentrated in Senate districts represented by Democrats, particularly the 6th District (Spencer Coggs) and the 4th District (represented by Lena Taylor). A right-wing Majority Leader silencing the politicians who represent people of color sounds eerily similar to the Jim Crow era.
If Fitzgerald blocked Democratic votes, he himself could have been found in violation of Wisconsin's contempt laws.
Fitzgerald's March 14 memo asserted that votes from the fourteen Senate Democrats will not be counted because they remain in contempt. The original contempt order may not have been subject to legal challenge because it was passed under Senate rules, which courts will not enforce or review. It also did not mention any sanctions related to voting, instead effectuating unprecedented warrants calling for the arrest and return of the fourteen. Wisconsin Statutes have separate contempt laws for public officials, and Fitzgerald may have violated those laws had he actually blocked the voting rights of the Democratic Senators ( the contempt statute would also have been triggered had the arrest warrants been acted upon, according to a legal memo from Cullen, Weston, Pines & Bach).
Wis. Stat. § 13.26: "Each house may punish as a contempt, by imprisonment ... for one or more of the following offenses: (1)(d)… attempting by menace or other corrupt means or device to control or influence a member's vote or to prevent the member from voting."
Luckily for Fitzgerald, he did not follow-through with his threat to "prevent the member[s] from voting" by use of the arguably "corrupt means" of an impermissible punishment for a trumped-up contempt finding. While "corrupt" is not defined in this statute, it appears to refer to dishonesty or other generalized misconduct (like "menace") rather than quid pro quo corruption.
Faced with declining poll numbers and massive opposition protests, Scott Fitzgerald and Wisconsin Republicans have been panicking and making a series of legally problematic decisions (including a seventeen-second roll call in the Assembly, a committee meeting not properly noticed under the state's open meeting law, and violating court orders by conducting legislative action while the Capitol building was in virtual lockdown). While they pulled back from the brink this time, we'll see what they do during the budget debates.
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Show AllLet's all boycott this Alabama of the North. With all those cheeseheads up there, the place must smell like an unwashed foreskin.
A boycott should be selective.
Koch Industries, aka all Georgia Pacific products - Quilted Norther, Angel Soft, Brawny, Mardi Gras, Dixie, Sparkle.
M&I Bank
Johnsonville Brats
Sargento Cheese
Menard's
Much of WI is still fighting this hard. Best to target those that support it.
If you are on facebook look for the site "Contributors to Scott Walker, We Will Take our Money Elsewhere" - it seems to be a main hub for info on boycotts being done.
Selective boycotts are a great idea. Only problem is that I already avoid Koch Bros. products, don't eat meat or corporate (animal rennet, rBST-poisoned milk) cheese, and wouldn't patronize a megabank or a Menard's if I had the chance to.
Same problem I have with investing: If the company is big enough that I've heard of it, it's almost certainly evil . . . so I'm already boycotting it.
Go Local credit unions....!! then seek companies that give to progressive causes like the CEO of Progressive Insurance. Some of the uber-rich who give to causes do give exclusive to democrats. Bloomberg gives a lot to Dems as well as Republicans. Every WalMart sibling give only to republicans but one who gives nothing. Here are a few left corporate owners. ( source Forbes )
------------------ Worth in Billions -- Source ---Political donations --
Bill Gates $54 Microsoft, slightly more to Dems then Republicans.
Warren Buffett $45 Berkshire Hathaway ( 100% Dem )
Paul Allen $12.7 Microsoft ( 6:1 Dems )
Michael Bloomberg $18 ( 2:1 Dems. )
George Soros $14.2 Hedge Funds ( 100% Dem )
Anne Chambers $12.5 Cox Comm ( 100% Dem )
John Paulson $12.4 Hedge Funds ( 100% Dem )
Ron Perlman $11 " ( 16:1 Dem )
George Kaiser $ 9.4 Oil/Banking ( 42:1 Dem )
James Simons $ 8.7 Hedge Funds ( 100% Dem )
Len Blavatnik $ 7.5 Access Ind ( 5:1 Dem )
Mars Candy! All Republican...don't eat their Snickers bars!
Yea boycott Koch ! I put up a site to encourage just that complete with their brand logos. Check it out and pass the word.
http://kochzero.info/
Irish blarney is nothing new, but Fascist blarney is. BEWARE WISCONSIN !
I think the real Point here is the mere "thinking" of such a heinous thing. The true colors of Fitzgerald and his ilk is clearly seen. These all too familiar types are - to make a long story short - Nazis. I do not use that term flippantly. They are Authoritarian Type 'A' and they are dangerous.
Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
'I think the real Point here is the mere "thinking" of such a heinous thing.'
So true. The idea that they can get away with even proposing this is what we really have to be afraid of. They are testing the waters and are poised to go all out once they can control the narrative (easy as pie). After all, what's the coverage been on this? NYTimes cover it? Do people, except those directly affected and progressives, have any idea of the implications of this?
Continue recall efforts! Continue boycotts! Continue talking truth about fiscal budgets, taxes paid and unpaid, politicians and their owners, et al., at every opportunity
Well said.
Comparing Republican tactics with Nazis is appropriate since those tactics have been well publicized during the past 75 years and it is apparent that Karl Rove has successfully refined those tactics during the past decade.
A series made by the BBC in 1972 in the vein of Masrhall McCluhan "Ways of Seeing" is online. This was a ground breaking critique of how we perceive that has fallen into obscurity - very worth revisiting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnfB-pUm3eI
consolidation of meaning
scabdemocrats put your coat on and stand outside with your picketline. ...bet you don't get arrested there.
whocares;)
It's rumored that Scott Fitzgerald's next step is to declare himself dictator of Wisconsin and to secede from the United States to continue his political temper tantrum.
Fitzgerald and Walker are what Wisconsin want. To hell with Wisconsin until it changes its tune.
What they are doing was never publicly stated in their campaigns, and anyone that claimed that this is what they were planning would have been derided as a "loonie" or "conspiracy nut".
Apparently some of the recalls of the Republican Senators should have the needed signatures gathered by the end of the week.
Spare us. You have to be a total decorticate not to know what Republicans are up to. Most Democrats are hardly worth voting for; Republicans are just outright fascists.
The current Wisconsin GOP is far off the deep end carrying water for its Koch brothers pimps that it's just plain nuts. Now they want to make pretences to sanity. Hey, can you say recall, jack ass? I bet a lot of Wisconsinites can about now.
I'm not stopping them. But it's the responsibility of the citizens of Wisconsin to redeem themselves.
Ah.
Wisconsin has a mote of dust in its eye, heh?
Have you noticed, perhaps, any beams in your own?
Every U.S. State I've ever been to seems closer to Wisconsin that different from it. Except that many in Wisconsin ARE fighting, which is why their State's situation is on the Internets for us to critique.
My State's aren't, doesn't mean my State is the land of happy democracy, though.
-matti.
cute. Just because Wisconsin elected a bunch of protofascists doesn't mean that many other states aren't WORSE.
The current Wisconsin GOP is so far off the deep end carrying water for its Koch brothers pimps that it's just plain nuts. Now they want to make pretences to sanity. Hey, can you say recall, jack ass? I bet a lot of Wisconsinites can about now.
In the public interest (well, mine anyway):
"Decorticate
–verb (used with object), -cat·ed, -cat·ing.
1. to remove the bark, husk, or outer covering from.
2. Surgery . to remove the cortex from (an organ or structure)."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/decorticate
I don't think you can BE one...
You're not far off the mark, all the protesters aside. A poll recently showed that if elections were held today, Walker and the Rethuglicans would lose, but only by a 6% margin - 47% of WI voters would still vote for them, even after all the fascist things they have done. Think about that - almost HALF of the people in Wisconsin approve of their gestapo tactics.
Probably a pretty good litmus test for the rest of the country - almost 1/2 would be ok with these types of fascist, anti-American, anti-Constitutional, anti-democratic things being done by those in power is just A-OK to almost half the American people.
Now THAT is what is scary. Soooo many good Germans in this evil country. Watch out for your neighbors - they are watching you.
Thank you. All Walker and his fellow thugs need to do is act nice for a month or so before the next elections, and they'll win reelection easily.
This is appropriate at this point:
The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. ~Albert Einstein
"Today’s Conservatives
Are Fascists
by Justin Raimondo, January 04, 2005
The idea that today’s conservatives are in any way defenders of individual liberty, the free market, and what Russell Kirk called “the permanent things,” i.e., the sacred traditions that have accumulated over time to constitute the core of our Judeo-Christian culture, is no longer a defensible proposition. Instead, what used to be called the conservative movement has morphed, almost overnight, into a coterie of moral monsters, whose political program is one of unmitigated evil.
My good friend Lew Rockwell has recently come to this conclusion:
“Year’s end is the time for big thoughts, so here are mine. The most significant socio-political shift in our time has gone almost completely unremarked, and even unnoticed. It is the dramatic shift of the red-state bourgeoisie from leave-us-alone libertarianism, manifested in the Congressional elections of 1994, to almost totalitarian statist nationalism. Whereas the conservative middle class once cheered the circumscribing of the federal government, it now celebrates power and adores the central state, particularly its military wing. … What this implies for libertarians is a crying need to draw a clear separation between what we believe and what conservatives believe. It also requires that we face the reality of the current threat forthrightly by extending more rhetorical tolerance leftward and less rightward.”
Various libertarian scholars and writers – see here, here, and here – seem to be drawing the same broad conclusions. I might add, for the record, that I reached a similar conclusion a couple of years ago, except that, far from abandoning my efforts to reach out to authentic (i.e., old-style) right-wingers, this merely accelerated my efforts to split off the authentic Remnant from the neoconized conservative movement.
In any case, by this time the evidence for the malevolent transformation of the American Right is all around us – in the ravings of Fox News “commentators,” in the sheer existence of Ann Coulter, in the usurpation of a formerly respectable political tendency by the greasy evasions of the “neo”-conservatives. This change is most starkly dramatized in three disturbing trends: (1) Widespread support on the Right for internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II, touting Michelle Malkin’s shoddy-to-nonexistent scholarship, with the implication that we should be contemplating the same treatment for Americans of Arab descent, (2) the justification of torture when utilized by the American military in the name of the “war on terrorism” by “conservative” legal theorists, and (3) advocacy of a ruthlessly aggressive foreign policy of military expansionism, supposedly in order to spread “democracy” around the world. "
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2005/01/03/todays-conservatives-are-fascists/
Excellent article, excellent points. I have often felt in the last ten years or so that the Right - which I have always viewed as "closet fascists" - have been slowly stripping off the fake veneer of "pro-Democracy" they have always pretended to be about, and being more blatant about their actual anti-democratic principals and goals. Of course, I also think the Democrats are the exact same stripe, just playing the Washington Generals vs. the Harlem Globetrotters in order to maintain the fiction of a "2 party" system, where there is in fact only 1 - corporatist/fascist/oligarchists, the whole lot of em.
It is actually quite chilling to see the Rethugs coming "out of the closet" so to speak, and displaying their authoritarian fascist preferences for the whole country to see so starkly. What is even more chilling is the apathy and shrugs of the majority of Americans at this display of anti-constitutional, anti-democratic behavior by the right. I've said it before: there are far too many Good Germans in America. If/when the rethugs come ALL the way out of the closet, and install a permanent, blatant fascist system (well on its way now, as the points in the article posted by ezeflyer shows), I fear most of the American electorate will march blithely along in lockstep.
I said it before, I'll say it again:
Eff Scott Fitzgerald!
Funny. Will be using this.
analysis of events in Wisconsin outside the lens of two-party manipulation:
http://www.socialistappeal.org/content/view/948/71/
Anybody notice a theme in these responses? Looks like some Koch Bros. PR hacks may have invaded our forum: m60green, Stone, whocares, corvo.
More than 100,000 protesters gathered in Madison last Saturday.
Recall signature drives for eight GOP senators are well under way, with poll results showing at least three — and as many as six — of them will be replaced by Democrats, thereby flipping the WI Senate from Republican to Democrat.
In Wisconsin, a labor/farmer/academia/leftist coalition is WINNING through mass demonstration and political action, beating back the corporatist attacks and showing the rest of the country the way to victory.
But, here on CD, these anonymous posters show up and encourage us to dismiss, and even boycott, all things Wisconsin.
A victory of the Left in Wisconsin would be welcome. But the Left LOST in 2010, which is why they're having to fight this now.
Sorry, that's the way representative democracy works (when it works at all).
The really sad thing is how little support the Left is getting from the Democratic Party, but that's hardly surprising.
It's a mistake to confuse the left with the Democratic party. The "left" didn't lose in 2010. Democrats in name only (the "Blue dogs) lost because voters realized they could get the "real thing" by voting for Repugs. The rest of them lost because they betrayed the "left". Most people wanted real change: financial reform that would have fostered a healthy economy for ALL, protected people from predatory and criminal practices, and prevented the next disaster instead of caving to the financial lobby; health care reform that would have brought us affordable, universal, quality care instead of caving to inusrance, big pharma, AHA; energy policies that would have fostered the growth and development of alternative sources of energy instead of caving to oil and gas corporations. The issues are clear, and most people would be "left" if given a real option. Sadly, the Democratic Party, to the extent that it is identified as "left," is why the "left" appears to be failing.
You're right in the sense that the Left didn't lose in 2010 -- because it wasn't even represented on the ballot in the first place.
It wasn't just Blue Dogs. Russ Feingold lost in WI, and he lost to a no-experience, uninformed corporatist hack.
The real problem is that Democratic voters and leftist voters stayed home last November. Just 60% of eligible WI voters voted. And still, races were close. 1.1 million voted for Walker, and 1 million voted for his opponent.
Polls showed voter disaffection with Obama's handling of the economy, Obamacare and the ongoing wars. In my opinion, their non-votes were message votes intended to rebuke Obama. As a consequence, Democrats lost their races.
Wisconsin voters are sick of George W. Obama's third term, and they're sick that Dems in Congress are still following his lead. But, they still prefer Democrats over Republicans.
Agreed. These budget battles are going on in nearly every state in the nation. But I don't see very many other states (or any) with mass protests against the fascists. Wisconsin should be a inspiration for the whole country!
Yesterday there were rallys held all over Florida ! Ohio has had massive protests.
Wisconsin started something good...people are waking up to what's is being done to us.
Move over tea party someone is about to eat your lunch, real Americans, not phony Koch stooges.
'showing the rest of the country the way to victory'............hahhaaaahaharofl...from the SCABDEMOCRATS?....I don't think so!
The SCABDEMOCRATS blindly crossed the picketline, just to find out... that again, as before, that the republicans do not need their votes, reguardless the legality.
The SCABDEMOCRATS will be overwhelmed by republican's majority vote, when and if the SCABDEMOCRATS return to vote (that is reality, that is what started this whole thing)...unless of course the SCABDEMOCRATS put on their coat and stand with the picketline (setup FOR them) until the protest support shows different. That would be leadership, that would be a winning stand, that is where the fight is...outside with the protestors.
whocares;)
oh and bytheway... my post was not a 'creeperz call to dismiss' at all.
"scabdemocrats put your coat on and stand outside with your picketline. ...bet you don't get arrested there.
whocares;)"
....rather it was a call to stand and fight. F-i-g-h-t...as in ...just try to arrest said SCABDEMOCRATS in the midst of the protest crowd, I am confident that WI's protestors are not going to easily allow any police action against themselves, or those that stand with them.
But said SCABDEMOCRATS won't stand with them, and that is why you have no solidarity, no leadership in WI...against the republican overlords and their corrupt agenda.
whocares;)
Poor Repugs...overstept their bounds and having trouble facist-ting it. Stare deep and long so you can remember to tell your kids just how close you came to real honest to evil inverted totalitarian rule. Buy Bye. We'll deal with those bad demorats later. First things first.
what are you talking about ????? Your statements here make no sense.
The sad thing is: If and when the dems win a majority again, they will want to "look forwards, not backwards", and pander the the GOP minority, not wanting to ruffle their feathers, like the sad sacks that they are.
Too many defeatists today!
Some here seem to need reminding that each failure to uphold their end that the Dems commit is just yet another turning of the screws on the machine forcing Naturally's labor/farmer/academia/leftist coalition to see the light and abandon the Blue Party to the trash heap of history along with their Red Party friends.
-matti.
From your mouth to G~d's ears. But I do see a shift; now to keep the momentum and engagement going to produce legislative results of a progressive socialist nature.
Make no mistake, the Capos aren't rethinking anything on policy. They just got the word from their in-house legal and pollsters that the contempt continuation wouldn't fly legally or politically. They have unmasked themselves and the non-fascist conservatives simply couldn't stomach their vitriol. I've heard more than one say "poor winners" about it all.
Yesterday, a certain governor appeared at a supporter's factory and the workers were "given" a paid break opportunity to hear how the Repugs did it for their sake. The camera pan of the audience was priceless. They quite obviously would rather have been working and the two local interviews of two different employees made it clear they weren't buying it. Oh and it looked like they were packaging the sorts of paper products that Koch brothers can't move around here any more. My son tells me Walmart has huge blank spots for the alternative products and all the Koch crap is still right where it stands after carts pass by. My husband tells me Walmart will not tolerate that 3 days in a row, at least where his job's products (drink mixes,etc) are concerned. We're betting Specialty Plus workers were repackaging Koch crap, the corporations hoping to fool consumers. It would be ironic if those worker abusing Walmart stores were backing up other workers' purchase statements about those bastards. Of course it wouldn't be about ethics, just the bottom line. But we'll take it.
You will like this site I posted then! http://www.kochzero.info
Pass the word !
Is it my imagination or not? But it seems as if the most obstinate, obstructive, obstreperous, off-the-wall, out-of-kilter, and odious politicians seem to be concentrated in the Republican Party these days. I really miss the Eisenhower Republicans.
Even the republicans just prior to Reagan. I was an "R" then. Even interviewed for an open seat in the Ohio legislature where my business partner was a Republican rep. In those days even guys like Kucinich were still reasonable. When Reagan had been in office about a year I had enough, became a democrat and not looked back. I feel confident that if my partner were alive today he would have switched parties in a flash when he saw what his party had become...monsters that they are. Out to devour the middle class.
Of the legislators I knew in Ohio at that time only Dennis Kucinich has held true to his belief that government belongs to the people, not to corporations or the Koch brothers. You need to hear his speech here: http://www.wisconsin14.us There is a public servant with some fire and some morals like Bernie Saunders and Anthony Weiner.
In Wisconsin as in my home state of Ohio, the entire GOP has become contemptible. Shady practices don't bother people with low moral values like these right-wing puppets of industry.
In Ohio when one of their own took a stand to block a bill to strip workers rights the party retaliated by stripping that Republican of his seat on the committee and replaced him with one that would do the party bidding.
So much for "representative" government when you are forced to represent the party over your own people.
Perhaps the few ethical Republicans remaining will see the light and switch parties.
Why doesn't this article question Fitzgerald's stated view that elected officials, in this case Republicans, do not have any obligation or responsibility to represent all the people of the state, even those of another party. All elected officials take an oath to represent ALL their constituents, not just those who give them money and not just those who voted for them. Nor is it honest to claim that being elected gives them free reign to then ignore their constituents and do whatever they want once in office. They are still obligated by that oath to listen to the public when it rises up against them, as Wisconsin citizens have done, repeatedly over the last few week. No matter what they campaigned on (and they certainly did not campaign on much of what they are trying to now do), they still have an obligation to listen to and continue to represent the voters honestly and fairly, and be responsive to their wishes. Elected representatives also have a responsibility to keep to the democratic process of fair, reasonable, and open re discussions with their opposition party(s), the public, and any special interests - especially powerful corporate lobbies. Republicans are perhaps more egregious in disenfranchising the public but they are hardly alone in that. Both parties have a lot to answer for keeping secrets and suppressing their constituents' ability to exercise their First Amendment Rights by refusing to do their jobs as their "representatives". They all too often choose to ignore the public when it speaks loudly and clearly, if it doesn't suit their personal agenda. They favor the powerful few instead via crony capitalism and a revolving door between government and business re jobs. By choosing to represent their personal interests or the interests of the few over the majority, they have broken their oath of office and betrayed the people in so doing. Now that is what I call real contempt.