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Obama Health Care Plan Drops Public Option
Despite the recent surge of support in the Senate for a government-run health insurance option, President Obama chose not to include one of the most popular elements of reform in the plan he is presenting to a bipartisan group of lawmakers Thursday.
US President Barack Obama speaks at a meeting with state governors in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington, February 22, 2010. Despite the recent surge of support in the Senate for a government-run health insurance option, Obama chose not to include one of the most popular elements of reform in the plan he is presenting to a bipartisan group of lawmakers Thursday. (REUTERS/Jason Reed) The Obama plan
explicitly bridges the differences between Senate and House legislation
on issues both large and small, but on the public option -- which is
included in the House bill, but not in the Senate's -- Obama is
entirely silent.
Last week, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow that Obama would "absolutely" fight for a public option if Senate leadership decided to go for it. "[I]f it's part of the decision of leadership to move forward, absolutely," Sebelius said. "The president said from the outset he thought that was a great way to provide cost reduction and competition moving forward, but if that is not the choice of the majority moving forward, I think there are other ways to get there."
Since then, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said he would work with his colleagues to find the votes needed for it; Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the third ranking Democrat, pushed for it to be included; and Sen. Bob Menendez (N.J.), chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, joined in the call as well.
But neither that nor the public option's consistently strong appeal in public-opinion polls was enough to persuade Obama to get behind it.
Indeed, after months of watching Obama say generally that he supports the public option while doing little to see it implemented into law, backers of the idea were unsurprised it was left out of his final offer.
"We didn't expect one," said Darcy Burner, head of the Progressive Caucus Policy Foundation.
Last week's surge had fired up a demoralized Democratic base, giving the health care reform effort an extra push as Obama tried to drag it across the finish line. But if the final bill is to include a public option, leaders in Congress and outside organizations advocating on its behalf will need to do it without Obama. "Congress and the people of the United States will have to lead in truly taking on the insurance companies," Burner said.
Obama's decision not to push for the public option does not preclude it from being included. Indeed, any member of the Senate can introduce it as an amendment to a package moving through under the rules of reconciliation, a parliamentary process that precludes a filibuster.
UPDATE: 10:15 -- Jacob Hacker, the Yale professor credited with original idea of the public option, told HuffPost in an e-mail that he is glad that the president is pushing forward with reform. He said Congress should follow a path he calls "Pass, Pledge, and Promise," whereby it passes an amended health care reform bill and promises to include a public option at a later date, if it becomes impossible to do immediately. Hacker's response:
The President should be commended for moving the stalled debate forward. His blueprint improves a number of the weakest elements of the Senate bill, including the subsidies for middle-class Americans receiving coverage through the exchanges and the protections against high cost-sharing under these plans. Notably, he includes stronger consumer protections for so-called grandfathered plans--employment-based plans existing at the time the law takes effect (which would have been only weakly regulated under the Senate bill). He has also broken important new ground by proposing to create a way to review health insurers' egregious rate increases, a step whose urgency has been driven home by the Anthem rate hikes in California.Even more important than any of these specifics is that the President is signaling he will engage fully in making reform happen and stand fully behind the members of Congress as they seek their own compromises. In this week's summit and the days that follow, the White House needs to stand strongly for the middle class and press for simple, understandable, effective, and popular steps.
For my part, I believe this strategic and policy advice recommends a path I call "Pass, Pledge, and Promise" (a variation on Senator Franken's "Pass and Pledge"): pass the Senate bill in the House, fix it with a pledged reconciliation bill, and promise to enact a public option -- now or, if now is impossible, in the near future. The beauty of the "promise" part is that a public option would be a big initiative on behalf of the middle class that would actually save the federal government serious money--at least $25 billion, and potentially much more than that, depending on how it is structured. Amid all the attacks on the public option, it has remained remarkably popular, and for a simple reason: It sends an unmistakable message that politicians are on the side of citizens rather than insurers.
UPDATE: 10:27 -- FireDogLake.com's Jane Hamsher tells HuffPost that including a proposal by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), which would regulate rises in insurance premiums, isn't serious because it would likely violate the "Byrd rule" -- in other words, it would be ruled out of order if it was introduced as an amendment to a bill under reconciliation, because it doesn't have a direct connection to the deficit.
The Senate, however, could vote to overrule the parliamentarian, putting Republicans on the spot. Broadly, said Hamsher, claims that Obama backs a public option ring hollow if he doesn't get behind it when it matters. "This morning, Dan Pfeifer said the President still 'supports' a public option. How can Obama possibly claim to 'support' something if he doesn't include it in his own plan?" she asked. "It's incredibly cynical to include the Feinstein Health Insurance Rate Authority in order to try and control spiraling costs, which is unlikely to survive the Byrd rule, and exclude the public option, which could be included and actually does achieve cost control. This game of pretending to do one thing while actually doing another continues to erode public confidence about the administration's true goals."
Adam Green of the Progressive Change Congressional Committee, which has been pushing hard for the public option, said that the PCCC, Credo Action and Democracy for America will be releasing a petition that tells Congress: "Americans want a good health care bill with a public option, even if it passes with only Democratic votes. We would rather have a good bill than a bipartisan one."
Polling shows that voters would rather have a strong bill than a bipartisan one.
PCCC/DFA/Credo are actually about to launch a petition to Congress that is a perfect quote
"The White House is asking Democrats in Congress to shoot themselves in the foot in the name of bipartisanship. Congress would be wise to smile nicely at the White House and then pass the public option through reconciliation and win re-election," said Green.
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Show AllThe Obamanable Snowman is a cynical crook, every bit as much as Al Capone, John Gotti, Lloyd Blankfein, James Dimon, or nearly the entire U.S. Congress. His contempt for 99% of all Americans knows no bounds, neither does his lust for power or personal enrichment. Politics at the federal level has degenerated into a permanent campaign of bamboozlement.
Indeed, our Corporate Mafia bosses tell us: "we like you, we don't want you to to die; nothing personal this is just business"
It is difficult to hold out any hope for the future when I see (if polls are credible) Obama's approval rating continue to exceed 50%.
Obama's skill as a propagandist would do Hitler and other great propagandists of the past century proud.
Yeah, the best public relations (propaganda) manager money can buy.
I suspect people are more inclined to blame Congress and give Obama a pass, perhaps because Obama never comes out with anything but vague speeches that say nothing.
It's worse than "vague" Rainborowe,
The head-spook-in-charge (ex-CIA) is lying to us. When you say you support public option, and then you do not come out with it, hello sportfans, you are LYING.
The man is a bare-faced lier, and we should impeach him for the High Crime of taking private insurance company money during the campaign and then allowing that to purchase a position. We need to publicly audit all the bank and insurance company accounts and see if we can spot the Chicago payoff.
Head Mobsters don't do things like this without a payoff.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
just in case anyone wants to sign onto a petition for the full package - Credo Action of Working Assets has mounted a petition
http://www.credoaction.com/?r=11&id=7864-2390587-iCFENCx
opportunities to act on Monsanto and a few other concerns as well...
A very powerful op/ed in my regional paper, http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/opinion/244643
74-47/care-medicare-health-insurance-medical.csp
that advocates Single Payer through a medicare for all approach as the best mechanism to serve ALL the people when juxtaposed with Obama's continued insistence to throw the best possible plan under the bus proves he has no desire to do what's right for ALL the people. Instead, we should throw Obama under the bus where he belongs.
No surprise here. Obama is once again showing his true colours: red (for capitulation to the Repubs) and yellow (for lacking the guts to take a stand for anything).
Too bad the US doesn't have the Parlimentarian "vote of no confidence". Instead you're going to have to suffer through at least three more years of "the Cowardly Lion".
Except it is not caving and cowardice. Apparently they would prefer that perception instead of complicity and betrayal providing them to continue to put up a front of rhetoric that some apparently are still desperate to believe.
Apparently all they care about is ramming through as much corporate favors while screwing the citizens in the time they have been allowed.
It is not cowardice or capitulation--it is cynical complicity if you study Obama's actions behind the scenes and his appointments in every field.
It would bad enough if Obama was simply caving in to corporate interests at the expense of you and I, however, Obama's zealous promotion of corporate interests at our expense adds insult to injury.
Agreed. Just as Bush was nowhere near as "stupid" as so many thought, Obama is nowhere near as "weak" as so many think.
Both are ultimate Corporate Tools, using their respective perceived images - "dope" or "weakling" - to do the bidding for their corporate masters.
Mission Accomplished: the U.S. is a fully Corporatized-Militarized State now, especially after the 5-4 SCOTUS Citizens United ruling. With Obama continuing nearly all of Bush's "national security" policies as well as those of the Secret Surveillance State, the U.S. is now a fascist state with a smiley face.
I concur 100% ED...Bush was never stupid nor is Obama a weakling, the sooner people accept that the guy they voted for was simply a marketing gimmick, a very slick one I admit, the better. Anyone who was still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt must now accept the reality of the kind of man we are dealing with. The clues are right there in front of us: careful analysis of his campaign speeches, interviews, post-election conduct, particularly his Cabinet picks...what other kind of proof do people need?
For people who still believe that we live in a country with a functioning democratic process, this article is yet more evidence to the contrary.
Even this article admits that a significant and consistent majority of the US public wants Medicare for all (Single payer, Canada style health service). This has been the case for several decades now.
When our elected leaders can ignore public preferences and grievances for decades with impunity, what does that tell us?
Now those bad ol Republicans are ruining the country despite supermajorities of Ds in both Houses and in the White House. Welcome to the one-party Oligarchy.
I don't know how the word got out that there is no public option suggested in the "Obama plan", but on the www.healthreform.gov web page it is included under the section: "If You Don't Insurance". Here is the quote: ". Offers a public health insurance option to provide the uninsured who can’t find affordable coverage with a real choice."
Of course, Single Payer is still the BEST option. HR 676 and SB 703 have yet to be seriously acknowledged in the MSM.
Well said, johntwodogs!!
Thanks!
No, not well said, since it appears johntwodogs is wrong, there is no public option in the Obama plan.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
I agree with johntwodogs that a single-payer option is the best.
President Obama kept single-payer off of the table from day one.
Here is a direct link to today's Obama plan (I don't see it in your link). I don't see anything about a public option and the media is reporting there is no public option.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/summary-presidents-proposal.pdf
As hard as I have looked, I am failing to see the section you have quoted.
Can you please explain where EXACTLY you saw this??
Thanks.
It's funny, but they have Obama's plan in PDF form on HuffPo. It's only 11 pages, not hard to skim through -- no Public Option, not even a hint.
Progressives need to start working now on a real option for 2012. A solid, realistically viable Green Party candidate would be my first choice (sorry Ralph, you are no longer viable if you ever were). Alternatively a primary challenge is an option. Right now the best candidate for that appears to be Howard Dean.
Third party congressional candidates starting this year is likely to be even more effective.
The timing and frustration is PERFECT for a third and, finally, victorious run by Dennis Kucinich. all it takes is the same group effort behind him that got behind O'Bummer. HE CAN WIN! And if he doesn't again in 2012 by Progressives bailing on him, then we better either 1.) Get SERIOUS about Democratic Socialism; 2.) Help the Greens grow some balls and send them money; 3.) Just sit back and watch the show because our voices are irrelevant in a day of Oligarchy.
2012 will be too late.
Check the voting records of any of your Congresstrons and Senatrons that are up for re-election in 2010 to find out if they have supported Obama's pro-corporate, anti-worker agenda (voting in favor of TARP, Ir-Af-Pak occupation funding/expansion, Bernanke reconfirmation, Obamacare, etc.).
If they have supported Obama's agenda, contact them and tell them you are not voting for them. Follow up by voting for primary challengers and third party candidates this year.
Voting for the lesser of two evils doesn't work, it just enables the lesser evil to become more evil.
Read Dennis' voting record..he is one of the most consistantly Progressives in congress today...But, if he were a third party candidate the media would give him the same treatment they gave him last time around during the debates (so-called-debates)..they just relagated him to behind the curtain and when they did allow him out on stage with the rest of the candidates they asked him totally irrevelent questions that they could poke fun at the next day to make him appear stupid. That worked for a while but then they just completely excluded him altogether, the worst political posturing by the media I have ever seen. The next time around it will be the same for any candidate willing to step forth to represent the people and not the corporations. Big business knows the media will be complicit in whatever their priorities will be and it will definitely not be for a third party be it Teabaggers or Brownbaggers or whatever. However none of that will stop me from joining a totally progressive third party with an honest agenda and viable candidates. I would seriously consider any third party if they had Alan (In-Your-Face) Grayson for their candidate. It will need someone to stand up to the politial shenanigans of the media.
The demeanor of the candidate must be that of an Alan Grayson. Only that type of demeanor could cut through the BS of the media. I can't see Grayson stepping down in a debate and allowing himself to be marginalized.
Agreed...we need Grayson's no-nonsense demeanor, we need people willing to stick their necks out and fight, this is not the time to make nice.
One wonders: Is Dennis too good for this mostly asleep, narcissistic country? ... Most people would rather think about food than about the basics that made this country what it seemingly was.
One wonders: Is Dennis too good for this mostly asleep, narcissistic country? ... Most people would rather think about food than about the basics that made this country what it seemingly was.
One wonders: Is Dennis too good for this mostly asleep, narcissistic country? ... Most people would rather think about food than about the basics that made this country what it seemingly was.
Unless we were to get serious about removing at least the corporate Democrats from the House and Senate and replacing them with serious progressives, a Kucinich presidency would be doomed to failure. He would face focused opposition from the corporate rats in both parties.
Progressives need to start working now on a real option for 2012. A solid, realistically viable Green Party candidate would be my first choice (sorry Ralph, you are no longer viable if you ever were). Alternatively a primary challenge is an option. Right now the best candidate for that appears to be Howard Dean.
Third party congressional candidates starting this year is likely to be even more effective.
Disagree on Dean. Yeah in the primaries, he made speeches that energized crowds but so did Obama. Both Dean and Obama criticized Bush but besides possibly healthcare, I don't recall anything that Dean said that is going to change our foreign policies, rollback the Big Brother government, reduce military spending... The fact that he folded under the Fox News "big scream" media attack so quickly and dissappeared just shows he is another Gore (dropped out of fight for 2000 election fight too quickly).
How about Robert F Kennedy Jr? A man of action and goodness.
And an Obama lover.
I somehow think he will have changed his mind, like so many of us that had faith in OBummer. The news of funding two new nuclear plants in Georgia will certainly have made an impact. NRDC won't consider that green planning. And there was that travesty of the mountaintop removal...
Might I suggest you look into Howard Dean's record as Governor of Vermont......You might be sadly surprised at what you find.
Katrine I'm one of those people who feel what you refer to as an "undeniable anger" because I feel we've been thoroughly duped by people who show only contempt for us and insult our intelligence on a daily basis and then the cherry on top: calling us "fucking retards"???? Oh I'm angry alright, but I'm not about to commit any crimes...we just need to chart a way forward, cut our losses and reform everything from campaign finance, the Constitution (yes, the infallible Constitution), what do we do about lobbyists?, financial reform, the electoral system (clearly we need to get rid of the electoral college? maybe not?) and perhaps proportional representation? (imagine if Nader and McKinney were in Congress via the third pary vote?) people like Kucinich need a platform in the MSM, not to be relegated to the "lunatic" fringe.
Saying all we need to do is to elect the "right, honest, responsible" people is not gonna cut it; the system as it is will swallow them, chew them up and spit them out. Oyi :-(
The creep never wanted it in the first place, I can't believe the amount of fools still finding excuses for Pres. Obaminable, blaming the people he's surrounded by, or Blue Dogs, or Republicans. It's never 0bama's fault, "at least he's trying", etc. Please, don't make me vomit.
He lied about the public option during the campaign the same way he lied about everything else, just to get elected. Like the good Uncle Tom that he is, he'll do nothing to displease his white masters in the corporate towers and EVERYTHING to stab the American worker in the back.
Paybacks are a bitch. That comes to mind when I think of how black people in this country have been treated. Unfortunately, this now powerful and likely wealthy prez, doesn't have enough black left in him to care about those of African dissent either.
Johntwodogs...I'm sorry, but you were reading Obummer's talking points he prattles at us to shut us up. You need to read Sen. Bennet's letter. Or try to plow through the 1083 pages of the bill. There is yet NO PUBLIC OPTION for those who cannot afford insurance. There likely will be some effort to force all Americans to buy something though, so all the insurance companies can have the portion of money that a public option would manage like Medicare. It is being designed to run all health care plans by privatization. There is no non-profit, and don't say BCBS, cause they have more money than God...
I would bet that the Medicare system and the VA system could be destroyed by the end of this man's term for the benefit of the insurance companies, all of whom do have more money than all the Gods of the universe. CEOs of the bigger insurance companies YEARLY income averages around $20,000,000. Would you, if you had it, want to see it cut in half? Quartered? OMG what would you do?
OBUMMER!??$$$$$????? Ha, ha, ha, you made me laugh...OBUMMER IT IS! So damn funny at such a sad thing happening to our America! What shall we do?? March on Washington? Serious. Maybe its time for a Progressive March on Washington. I mean what are we waiting for. Want to meet me there? Your so funny. Are you married? I like the way you think.
OBUMMER ...your a bummer! Hah. Feels good.
If the 40,000,000 without health insurance are made to buy something, even at a mere (1/6 of my income) $1000 a year, that puts...wait ...$40,000,000,000 into the insurance company coffers and the CEO money grubber bastards take a sizeable commission off that...to add to their already swollen egotistical thieving bastard money grubbing shithole lifestyle. May they all die of some wormy thing that takes years and they can't be healed.
If the government got that $40 billion, they'd likely not manage it real well, but at least it would all be in the hands of the people...sort of. Good luck getting those bills paid. Medicare is slow, but at least they pay, well, 80%. You still need another private insurance to cover the rest...or you fight the systems.
"Pass, Pledge, and Promise"
- Pass the Senate bill that Republicans and Independents oppose?
- Pledge reconciliation that can't signficantly alter the bill?
- Promise the public option? And when will that come, after the next election? Since when can we believe in the Democrats' promises?
obama already said that once a health care bill is done - it'll be done for a generation or more-
once this thing is passed they are NOT COMING BACK TO IT....
end of story....
they have to do it by reconciliation if the are going to have a public option, congress needs to decide to do this
obama is presently trying to get a bipartisan bill
put the pressure on congress not obama for this one
And why then did Obama drop the public option for the commission? Because not enough pressure from the public was put upon the President in the first place. And it is Congress, not Barak, that is still pushing for the public option.
Didn't you actually read the article?
As for a bipartisan bill -- when hell freezes over as far as the majority of Republicans are concerned. They are sitting pretty with the Tea Party folks.
Gary
"Truth in matters of religion is simply that opinion that has survived."
-- unknown
Had enough yet of "The Audacity of Hope for Change That We Can Believe In"?
I will never vote for another effing Democrat ever! There! That felt great...like my conscience just had a bath.
Katrine,
Very funny! I needed a laugh this morning. The tragic thing is that our health care is not a joke and people are suffering and all we get from our leader is more hype.
Prof. Hacker sez: "(Obomba) has also broken important new ground by proposing to create a way to review health insurers' egregious rate increases ..."
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So, he's "proposing" to "create a way" to "review" rate increases.
Yeah, baby! That'll bring costs tumbling right down! I'm sure his masters are quaking in their boots.