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Iran: The Neocons Are At It Again
The same neocons who persuaded George W. Bush and crew to, in Ron Paul's inimitable words, "lie their way into invading Iraq" in 2003, are beating the drums of war more loudly these days to attack Iran. It is remarkable how many of these war-mongers are former draft dodgers who wanted other Americans to fight the war in Vietnam.
With the exception of Ron Paul, who actually knows the history of U.S.-Iranian relations, the Republican presidential contenders have declared their belligerency toward Iranian officials who they accuse of moving toward nuclear weapons.
The Iranian regime disputes that charge, claiming they are developing the technology for nuclear power and nuclear medicine.
The inspection teams of the International Atomic Energy Authority (IAEA) that monitor compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, to which Iran belongs, have entered Iran numerous times and, while remaining suspicious, have not been able to find that country on the direct road to the Bomb.
While many western and some Arab countries in the Gulf region have condemned Iran's alleged nuclear arms quest, Israel maintains some 200 ready nuclear weapons and has refused to sign the non-proliferation treaty, thereby avoiding the IAEA inspectors.
Israelis in the know have much to say. Defense minister, Ehud Barak, responded to PBS's Charlie Rose's question "If you were Iran wouldn't you want a nuclear weapon?" with these words:
"Probably, probably. I don't delude myself that they are doing it just because of Israel. They have their history of 4,000 years. They look around and they see the Indians are nuclear. The Chinese are nuclear, Pakistan is nuclear as well as North Korea, not to mention the Russians."
The Iranian regime, with a national GDP smaller than Massachusetts, is terrified. It is surrounded by powerful adversaries, including the U.S. military on three of its borders. President George W. Bush labeled Iran, along with Iraq and North Korea, one of the three "axis of evil," and Teheran knows what happened to Iraq after that White House assertion. They also know that North Korea inoculated itself from invasion by testing nuclear bombs. And all Iranians remember that the U.S. overthrew their popular elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953 and installed the dictatorial Shah who ruled tyrannically for the next 27 years.
Recently, Iran has experienced mysterious cyber sabotage, drone violations of its air space, the slaying of its nuclear scientists and the blowing up of its military sites, including a major missile installation. Israeli and American officials are not trying too hard to conceal this low level warfare.
Israel military historian--strategist Martin van Creveld said in 2004, that Iranians "would be crazy not to build nuclear weapons considering the security threats they face." Three years later he stated that "the world must now learn to live with a nuclear Iran the way we learned to live with a nuclear Soviet Union and a nuclear China....We Israelis have what it takes to deter an Iranian attack. We are in no danger at all of having an Iranian nuclear weapon dropped on us...thanks to the Iranian threat, we are getting weapons from the U.S. and Germany."
U.S. General John Abizaid is one of numerous military people who say that the world can tolerate a nuclear Iran--which, like other countries, does not wish to commit suicide.
Using the "Iranian threat," served Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, who on his first tour of duty back in 1996, speaking to a joint session of Congress, made a big point of the forthcoming Iranian bomb.
Somehow the Iranians, who were invaded in 1980 by a U.S.-backed Saddam Hussein, resulting in a million casualties, and who have not invaded anybody for 250 years, are taking a very long time to build a capability for atomic bomb production, much less the actual weapons.
In mid-2011, Meir Dagan, recently retired head of Israel's "CIA," repeated his opposition to a military attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, adding it would engulf the region in a conventional war.
He further took the Israeli government to task for failing "to put forth a vision," noting that "Israel must present an initiative to the Palestinians and adopt the 2002 Saudi Arabia peace proposal, reiterated since, that would open full diplomatic relations with some two dozen Arab and Islamic countries in return for an Israeli pullback to the 1967 borders and recognition of a Palestinian state."
The war-mongers against Iran have often distorted Iranian statements to suit their purpose and kept in the shadows several friendly Iranian initiatives offered to the George W. Bush Administration.
Flynt L. Leverett, now with Brookings and before a State Department and CIA official, listed three initiatives that were rejected. Right after the Sept. 11 attacks, Iran offered to help Washington overthrow the Taliban. The U.S. declined the offer. Second, in the spring of 2003, top Iranian officials sent the White House a detailed proposal for comprehensive negotiations to resolve questions regarding its weapons programs, relations with Hezbollah and Hamas and a Palestinian peace agreement with Israel. This proposal was rebuffed and ignored.
Third, in October 2003, European officials secured an agreement from Iran to suspend Iranian uranium enrichment and to pursue talks that Mr. Leverett said "might lead to an economic, nuclear and strategic deal." The Bush administration "refused to join the European initiative, ensuring that the talks failed," he added.
A few days ago, U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Iran was developing a capability for making nuclear weapons someday but was not yet building a bomb. So why is the Obama Administration talking about a western boycott of Iran's oil exports, so crucial to its faltering, sanctions-ridden economy? Is this latest sanction designed to squeeze Iranian civilians and lead to the overthrow of the regime? Arguably it may backfire and produce more support for the government.
Backing the Iranian regime into such a fateful corner risks counter-measures that may disrupt the gigantic flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz. Should that occur, watch the prices of your gasoline, heating bill and other related products go through the roof--among other consequences.
Isn't it about time for the abdicatory Congress to reassert its constitutional responsibilities? It owes the American people comprehensive, public House and Senate hearings that produce knowledgeable testimony about these issues and all relevant history for wide media coverage.
The drums of war should not move our country into a propagandized media frenzy that preceded and helped cause the Iraq invasion with all the socio-cide in that country and all the costly blowbacks against U.S. national interests?
It is past time for the American citizenry to wake up and declare: Iran will not be an Iraq Redux!




65 Comments so far
Show AllIn an article in this month's Foreign Affairs: Time to Attack Iran, Matthew Kroenig argues for a "surgical strike" (Sound familiar? That's what they said about bombing Cambodia during Vietnam, and you know what good that did) against Iran's nuclear facilities. The Neocons never learn do they? We haven't had enough wars; we need one more right now.
Maybe we could just try talking to them, but I guess that's too simple.
"The neocons never learned" ?????
The neocons learned in 1975 that when occupations and wars end, their military industrial complex's revenue stream slows or stops. That is why neocons and neoliberals are committed to eternal occupations and wars that assure their military industrial complex an eternal revenue stream.
With 95% of the US electorate continuing to vote for Democrats and Republicans, the two parties owned by the military industrial complex, it is US voters who "never learn".
Exactly correct, Ray. Every bullet shot means $ to some corporation.
War means poor people killing poor people for the benefit of the rich. The rich have learned to exploit the "patriotic" emotions of the poor into good reason to kill their brothers and sisters overseas.
From Aristophanes (ca. 446 BC - ca. 386 BC) play, THE WASPS (422 BC): “The truth is, they want you, you see, to be poor. If you don’t know the reason, I’ll tell you. It’s to train you to know who your tamer is. Then, whenever he gives you a whistle and sets you against an opponent of his, you jump out and tear them to pieces.”
Prophetic view of today's police in Amerka. No no no I meant the neighbor's dog.
Sometimes the tiger tears up the trainer!!
And don't-cha just wish you could invent a product that only gets used once and HAS to be replaced each time? Because ya can't be without one, or else.
it is not whether the neocon learn or not.it is whether they can defy israel diktat. just as happened in iraq war, the israelis care only about their power and greed. and in the process if the US interest is sacrified so be it.
"The Iranian regime, with a national GDP smaller than Massachusetts, is terrified."
Not as terrified as Massachusetts propaganda would have one believe, Ralph. Massachusetts GDP is mostly garbage. 75% of what Merkans produce is unnecessary and counterproductive. The GDP of other countries is much more aligned with the people's true needs. For example, the great majority of Iranian food production is highly nutritious. In contrast, the great majority of Merka food production is so low grade, it may as well be called garbage. Case in point: Raisins. Compare a typical raisin grown in Iran with the Merkan monocrop Thompson. The Iranian raisin has probably five times the nutrient to calorie ratio. It's not all about raisins. Consider the overall energy/material efficiency of the typical lifestyle outside Merka. Just take a complete inventory yourself.
60 to 70% of the food component of Massachusetts' (and other states') GDP is packaging, promotion, advertising and other costs peripheral to the food itself.
Don't forget pistachios. Having grown up in Europe we had Iranian pistachios, a far cry from the dried out stuff you get in US markets.
Most US pistachios came from Iran too, until their importation was banned after the 1978 revolution throwing out the US-supported fascist Shah. The pesticide-laden state of California took over.
Have you tried figs from Egypt? Yummy!
Nice article, but tell us something we don't already know. What is it about this tiny little puff ball of a country that has warranted so much attention, whether in 1953 or currently? Is it the oil? Is it just a generic enemy the MIC needs, that can't really fight back? THAT'S what I want to know.
Not only the oil beneath Iran, but the potential to run a pipeline from Asia's oil rich interior to global shipping in the Persian Gulf.
And to prevent it from flowing either east to China or north to Russia. China gets a lot of its oil from Iran, so I would predict a little resistance from that direction.
I think China's oil interests in the Mideast and Africa (they had even, perish the thought, encroached on the Libyan oil fields) is the reason for our military build-up in the Pacific.
So, why would you think that the Chinese would be so reluctant to take on the US at this juncture. I know we have loads of weapons and such but they do also. We have steadily been building their military by supporting their economy. They need the oil just as we do and their economy is based on all energies. I suspect that China would support Iran one way or another and I feel that Russia will also. Putin has a score to settle with W for pretending to be his friend and then moving the Nato devices ..another situation of no trust with our country. I think that those two landmasses are ready to collide with us.
The other thing is ...how about those Neocons. We need to identify them by name. There needs to be a list of them so that the people of this country can see them and not let them hide behind the curtain. There needs to be mounting pressure on these idiots to prevent the same thing happening again and again.
I would suspect that Saudi Arabia is looking around for the next shoe to drop. Because if Iran's oil falls then guess what is next. Israel's plan will be complete. They will be in control of the oil. God help us then.
We get so littl;e of our oil from Iran, I'm not sure why we would care about this. As fact, we get little of our oil from any you are suggesting.
Geopolitically, Iran is in a strategic position which makes Israel and the United States very uncomfortable. You might enjoy this article, bittymouse: http://oilprice.com/Geo-Politics/International/Eight-Strategic-Factors-to-Consider-in-2012.html.
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It's not about where "We" get our oil. The purpose of the US wars in the middle east is not primarily to keep oil flowing to the average American. The central purpose is to maintain the enormous profits of the Western oil companies and banks.
Other factors are also at work. The acronym BOIL represents a rough summary of the factors behind the US imperial wars in the middle east.
Banks
Oil companys
Israel
Logistics (military)
Of course the 1% is addicted to war and horrific levels of military spending.
Iran has the 3rd largest proven reserves and is thought to be rich in untapped or potential reserves.
Actually, we get a large percentage of Iran oil... but it comes thru other nations such as Russia. THAT alone is why they say if something happens to Iran oil we will pay at the pumps. So you are wrong... alot of Iran oil ends up in Amerika!
If I remember right Iran has the second most energy reserves on the planet just behind Saudi Arabia. They have the third most oil behind #1 Saudi Arabia, #2 Iraq and the second most natural gas behind #1 Russia which makes it a rather tempting plum to the oil and energy vampires.
Certainly would have been enlightening to see the meeting minutes of the oil/energy vultures in Chaney's office in 2001 on how they intended to control the world by controlling mideast oil.
Really how much of a failure are our religious institutions when grown successful men haven't even figured out the unfailing law of karma: Scientific - for every action there is a equal and opposite reaction; biblical - as you sow so shall you reap or an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth; street law - what goes down, comes around; etc.
Oh well, live and learn or maybe live, learn, or be reborn in a more proper learning situation.
Ralph Nader's comments are right on the money.
We must resolutely resist starting any new illegal and unethical wars. We've already done too much of that.
Jim Shea
Old Ralph is late to the party recognizing how bad it would get if Bush 2 were to get elected.
Bush 2 got elected becasue Al Gore ran to the right of Bush 2 on many issues, and was practically indistinguishable from Bush on the other issues. And his refusal to call for a recount in Florida, which he actually won, suggest that Gore always wanted Bush to get elected anyway.
Democrat liberal trolls are not welcome here. Go back to your Huffington Post.
Man, if this ain't a bunch of hog-wash baloney... Man you need to get a brain or go back to your stoopid neocon crusade to ruin this country.
Gore wasn't on the right of anyone or anything you dummy! It was Gore who took it to the supreme court. Unfortunately the implanted GOP crooks on the court sided with Bush...
Get a life and quit posting distorted and blantant lies!
Well put, Spanky! I don't know what planet "pjd412" lives on, but the view that there was no difference between Gore and George W is the sort of claptrap prevalent on this site (from the columnists as well as the posters). So Gore would have invaded Iraq, ignored climate change, alienated allies, and cut taxes for the upper one percent? I don't think so . . . !
No, Bush stole the election because too many Americans are stupid to the truth (like yourself) and the SCOTUS is corrupt...why don't you go monitor a cloakroom somewhere...bullying little kids seems perfect for you!
Yes, this is all about oil just like everything else. Get used to it as it is only going to get worse.
"why is the Obama Administration talking about a western boycott of Iran's oil exports,"
Conservatives live in fear and spread fear because the MIC needs another war and war Presidents always win.
I think Ralph may be voting for Ron Paul
Are the neocons any different than the neoliberals? We are living Plato's "Republic" and have been for 2500 years. We are subjects of and subject to the 1%. After the death of Alexander the Great, his generals made their first priority to consolidate their power and then to maintain the staus quo. Maintaining order and the order of things is what those in power do. Change rarely comes. When it does it is in the form of revolution. "A revolution is not a dinner Party..." - Chairman Mao
You are using "neoliberal" incorrectly.
"Neoliberal" does not mean an indistinguishable-from-Republican, Obama-style democrat.
"Neoliberal" refers to the global regime, post-1970s to present, of resurgent economic liberalism (i.e. privatization of public services and public property and deregulation of capitalist activity) made popular by Hayak ("Austrian School") and Friedman ("Chicago School") and popularized in an extreme form the US by Ayn Rand and "libertarianism". Note that "libertariansim" outside the USA refers to something completely different - an anarcho-socialist philosophy.
US Neoconservatism does incorproate neoliberal philosophy into a lot of its domestic economics. But their support of the entirely government subsidized military-industrial complex is completley at odds with neoliberalism.
It seems to me we are already at war with Iran. Although it's sneaky, and mostly covert. If they did to us what we're doing to them, there would be a full-blown invasion immediately.
Thankyou, Thankyou Ralph Nader for writing on this issue, which I consider to be the most important one. You have not said anything which we at CD do not already know, but ALL the USA needs to know the simple truths that you have written here. Thankyou for lending your credibility to this issue. People who read what you say pretty much know that you are the most genuine of all of the politicians, an absolute BEACON of credibility.
P.S. I am amazed that the trolls have not hit this thread yet.
Thank you, Ralphie-boy, for contributing to our energy needs by passing natural gas in the safe haven of Common Dreams. People who read what you say (and see you among your buddies at Fox News) know that you are the most genuine of the BS artisans, an absolute BEACON of credibility that brought us seat belts and George W Bush. Signed, A Troll
And "braithwa842" - come up with an original insult. Yours were stale long ago!
Iran has been JUUUST about to get a nuclear weapon since Reagan's first term.
In 1984, Jane's Defense Weekly said Iran was within 2 years of getting a nuclear weapon.
Read the history of "Iran will have nuclear weapons within 5 years" as it's been repeated for almost 30 years now:
http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/iran-19
Ralph says... "Isn't it about time for the abdicatory Congress to reassert its constitutional responsibilities? It owes the American people comprehensive, public House and Senate hearings that produce knowledgeable testimony about these issues and all relevant history for wide media coverage."
-- The Iranian nuclear issue is a distraction from the real issue.
Oil is traded and sold in US dollars across the globe. If a non-oil producing country, like France, needs to buy oil from Saudi Arabia they have to first buy US dollars to do so. If an oil producing country, like Saudi Arabia, wants to sell its oil to China it sells it in US dollars. It has been this way since around 1972 when Kissinger struck up a deal with the House of Saud to only sell oil in US dollars in exchange for US protection. All OPEC nations followed suit.
"The economic essence of this arrangement was that the dollar was now backed by oil. As long as that was the case, the world had to accumulate increasing amounts of dollars, because they needed those dollars to buy oil. As long as the dollar was the only acceptable payment for oil, its dominance in the world was assured, and the American Empire could continue to tax the rest of the world. If, for any reason, the dollar lost its oil backing, the American Empire would cease to exist. Thus, Imperial survival dictated that oil be sold only for dollars." (**)
Saddam Hussein was the first person to defy this deal and threatened to sell Iraqi oil in Euros.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html
The second nation to sell oil in non-US dollars was Iran.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_oil_bourse
The third nation to use non-US dollars to sell it's oil was Chavez of Venezuela
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/9-irans-new-oil-trade-system-challenges-us-currency/
And the fourth nation that tried to sell it's oil in non-US dollars and wanted to create a gold exchange for oil was Gadaffi of Libya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoMqX4jzGvc
(**)http://www.energybulletin.net/node/12125 -- The guy who wrote this article is an economist of the Austrian school of economics. It's still a pretty good analysis of the neo-imperialism that is taking place here, regardless of whether you agree with his economic philosophy.
But to avoid being attacked by others for posting an economic analysis from a phd student of the Austrian school of economics I will also provide another analysis from the left-wing side that essentially gets to the same point.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Iraq/Iraq_dollar_vs_euro.html
Thanks Eric for pointing this out. Money is what it is all about. Once the dollar was based on gold. I believe it's foundation now is control of the oil market by the exclusive use of the dollar backed by military might, those dollars put into play.
Once the gold standard backed our dollar. It is now piles of uncounted dead woman and children. Every country you point out that creates an oil bourse or even speaks of it is actively under attack by the USA. Lets call it what it is, war. Building democracy you know.
Your words here "As long as the dollar was the only acceptable payment for oil, its dominance in the world was assured, and the American Empire could continue to tax the rest of the world. If, for any reason, the dollar lost its oil backing, the American Empire would cease to exist." needs a big mic check across this country. As countries as China and Japan with Vietnam listening in are talking their own oil currency it is not far to that shocking moment when the rotten foundation under the city on the hill will finally collapse under its own shit, in an instant. We will be what we are now 25th in health care, 27th in internet coverage, infant mortally...... oh you know nutritionally starving third world country up to our ears in debt with more personal electronic devices than most other nations, probably combined sickened by the destruction of our environment but ready anytime to kiss ass for a minimum wage job, any job so I do not lose everything that is important to us except our dignity and honor which I think we lost in the Bush years, for sure.
Never fear look at the high quality of those running for the highest office in the land and tremble. It seems they have discovered bath salts. Grow a garden. Raise animals. Buy guns and ammo. Make peace with your neighbors and create community.The disease in the arms of the far flung empire sooner or later infect the heart of the beast. Chicken Little, I call it.
The dollar argument may be the core of it. Could it not just be that the US will bomb, invade and occupy any and all nations that have oil fields where Exxon Mobil does not have access and control of those fields? Afghanistan aka Pipelanistan is all about a pipeline to the Caspian after all. Exxon and BP now control Iraq's oil. I expect that Norway and Finland may be on the neo-con list, once they have taken out Iran and Venezuela - since the Scandinavians still have some partially depleted fields in the North Sea. It would seem that the US is the new Third Reich, stealing the oil of conquered nations instead of the treasuries, carpeting the globe with war. Now that all military power rests with one nation and one nation only, who can fight back? Who is going to stop the US' insatiable war lust? Only China and Russia have the potential to stop it. By destroying the dollar. Bankruptcy stopped the Roman Empire.
Well put. Your "reply" should be promoted to a featured article.
Eric: Pretty much the same thing I have been posting and pointing out ever since the illegal war on Iraq. I couldn't agree more! The nuclear weapon of mass destuction, that the elite fears the most, is their potetial loss of hegemony and the mass destruction of trillions of $ by losing their control of the oil bourse, because that could lead to a devastation of the American economy and the 1% wealthy, elite. And that my friend, is why wars are fought!
Interesting explication how of dollar hegemony and the oil market work. Thanks.
The answer here is to talk with the Iranians and work on some deal. War is not an answer here.
I don't know - it seems to me Ralph is not even in the game here.
This is just pointless talk.
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Michael Desautels
If talk is all you can do...go as far as you can go...you will see further.
The US americans, far more than anyone else,and if OWS has any meaning, should, must and will not fall into the 'war' trap this time.
IRAN: The international, criminal banking, cartels are at it again. The neocons are just their lieutenants. The criminal, banking cartel 1% almost always stay in the shadows and are rarely seen. Consider this: in 2000 the only western countries the cartels did not financially control were: North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Afghanistan, Libya and Cuba. Now 10 years later, we have been at war with four of these countries and Sudan and Iran are now on the radar screen. The neocons are like cheerleaders with their pom poms promoting wars for their banking masters. 1-2-3-4 we love war; 5-6-7-8 we love to hate!
I know I kept this for a reason. An "I Told You so" Moment ! Nov. 2010 Title says it all ! How Prophetic ! http://www.a-w-i-p.com/index.php/2010/11/13/see-it-coming-and-stop-it-even-if-it-cos