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Obama Should Listen to Iraqis, Not Lecture Them
If Obama just asked Iraqis on his flying visit, he would find they think the US is part of the problem and should leave them to it
Sandstorms are unpredictable, but in the case of Barack Obama's rushed trip to Iraq the one that hit Baghdad just as he was landing on Tuesday afternoon was highly unfortunate. US officials were forced to cancel the president's helicopter flight to the Green Zone to meet Iraqi leaders.
Less sensibly, they decided not to allow Obama to travel the roughly eight-mile journey by road. Their decision illustrated just how insecure the Iraqi capital remains in spite of considerable improvements in the last two years. It also meant that Iraq's prime minister and president had to take the risk of going to see the foreign visitor rather than the other way round.
The Obama trip had been designed to draw a contrast with George W Bush's several unannounced visits mainly consisted of talking to US troops. It was also meant to convey an image that Iraq was now a sovereign rather than an occupied and client country. Instead, the truncated four-hour visit's message was that little had changed in US-Iraqi relations.
Obama's initial view of the need to invade Iraq was, of course, different from Bush's. During the election campaign he tossed aside the Bush/Blair mantra that there should be "no artificial timetable" for withdrawing foreign troops. He gave a clear promise that combat troops would leave within 16 months. But Bush was forced to change his line last autumn thanks to growing confidence on the part of Iraq's prime minister, Nouri al Maliki, and mounting pressure from the Iraqi parliament. They persuaded Bush to sign an agreement for troops to leave Iraq's cities by July this year, and to leave Iraq altogether by the end of 2011.
So when Obama took office he inherited a US policy that was not so different from what he had had been advocating. Where there has been change, it tends to go in the opposite direction. While broadly sticking to his promise to pull combat troops out in 16 months (the date of August 2010 he now favours is actually 18 months), he has raised serious doubts about sticking to the 2011 deadline. Now he suggests some US forces may stay after that time, for training or counter-terrorism purposes.
More worryingly, Obama is increasingly adopting a narrative of the US presence that sounds like the Bush version. US troops, Bush always used to say, are in Iraq to defend democracy and provide security until the Iraqis are ready to step up to the plate. Obama now says the same, and expresses concern that as US troops start to leave Iraq violence may resume. It's comforting and paternalistic stuff, designed to paint a picture of neutral peacekeepers nobly holding the ring until the natives grow up or come to their senses.
Undoubtedly, Obama has a difficult role to perform as commander in chief. It's hardly to be expected that he would tell US troops to their face at the optimistically named Baghdad airport headquarters Camp Victory that they have been risking their lives for nothing. But he could have hinted that while most soldiers did their duty with professionalism and discipline, the political leaders who sent them there were mistaken and ill-informed.
By the same token, it makes domestic political sense for Obama to say he wants to conduct the US withdrawal "in a responsible fashion". But he should not fall for the Bush-style argument that "I have a responsibility to make sure that, as we bring troops out, we do so in a careful enough way that we don't see a complete collapse into violence" - the phrase he used to students in Istanbul shortly before flying to Baghdad.
Why doesn't Obama consult Iraqi opinion? The latest poll, by the BBC and ABC in February, shows that nothing has changed in the longstanding majority view that the occupation forces (British as much as the Americans) have not been a bastion of security. They have been the problem more than the solution. Sixty-nine per cent said they had "done a bad job". Forty-six per cent think they should leave Iraq before the end of 2011, while 35% said the timetable is right. Less than 20% want them to stay longer. One reason is that Iraqis by a 53% majority view the US as still running the country. Another is that 59% already think Iraqi forces are capable of providing sufficient security.
It is true that sectarian tensions and violence between Sunnis and Shias still exist in Iraq (a phenomenon that was insignificant during Saddam's era and the previous two or three decades). It is also the case that clashes between the Sunni Awakening Councils and the Shia-dominated army and police have recently broken out, largely because of a hasty government policy of disbanding the councils, many of whom earlier led the anti-US resistance.
But the Iraqi public, and the main parties in parliament, express confidence that violence can be contained. On Tuesday Obama told US troops rather haughtily that it was "time for Iraqis to take responsibility for their country". He should listen rather than lecture. Iraqis have been trying to give the US that very message for quite some time.
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Show AllShoot, he lectured the Europeans too.
Excellent point.
Who doesn't Obama lecture? He condescendingly lectures even the people who elected him. He is rich, and surrounded every day by very rich poeple. That makes him smarter than you or me. Remember that so-called "town hall meeting" a couple weeks ago?
Black American who got lectured by Obama in his Philadelphia speech about their responsibility for dealing with their own disadvantages will not be surprised by this latest version of Obama's well-worn "blame the victim" routine. When I read this morning of the Baghdad visit and his speech to the troops, my first thought was (ironically)that it was yet another articulation of the lament of the White Man's Burden. One verse of Kipling's poem:
Take up the White Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
The self-pitying complaint of a lack of appreciation from those "savages" who frustrate with "sloth and folly" what others have "sought for" them that British colonists must have found so comforting in the face of native resistance to being "helped" plays as well for those burdened soldiers in Baghdad as it did for Britons in the far reaches of a British Empire with its ungrateful natives. Obama's Philly speech "played well" with American whites who voted in droves for him as "one of them." Just so, the Baghdad speech probably did just what Obama's aides hoped it would do, playing well with the voters in Peoria and the pundits at ABC News who could pronounce his Middle Eastern junket a "great success" as he got those Iraqis told. Obama has never stop campaigning for popularity and apparently he still has that magic touch of talking successfully as his disastrous actions proceed.
"Obama has never stop campaigning for popularity and apparently he still has that magic touch of talking successfully as his disastrous actions proceed."
More like the media spinning it that way. Check out this nugget:
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GLENN GREENWALD: Well, what I think is interesting is to look at what journalists, establishment journalists, who work in the largest corporations in the country, in the media division, say about what their role is. In order to understand how the reporting on Iraq was done. How it's done on the financial crisis. Last month Howard Fineman, the "Newsweek" reporter, and MSNBC contributor, wrote an article in which a column, in which he said that the establishment is now worried that Barack Obama is not up to the job. And he made clear that he was speaking on behalf of the establishment, as a member of it. And he said that the establishment, to the extent it exists in America, is now comprised of three stools. The financiers on Wall Street, political elites in Washington, and media stars in the New York/Washington corridor. And there's a "Newsweek" cover story by Evan Thomas, who's a long time Washington insider reporter. And it's concerning Paul Krugman's status as a critic of Obama from the Left. And in this article Evan Thomas, I thought quite revealingly declared himself, as well, like Howard Fineman did, to be a member of the establishment persuasion, as he called it. And what he said was that, by definition, members of the establishment are devoted to preserving the existing order. The prevailing status quo. Keeping things the way they are."
Now go google "Obama" news. All you will find is gushing despite the evidence otherwise. Did anyone see Obama speak to the French? They mostly sat there with their arms folded--and even Tweety Matthews briefly deviated from sputtering over the adoring crowds to ask if there was a language barrier that had caused the lack of enthusiasm on the part of the French. After someone noted that most likely they all spoke english, the disconnect resumed without missing a beat.
Vern, I've noticed as well that some reports are coming through---like the one in France you mentioned---in which Obama's speech-making "success" is not so hot. I saw the report in which he made his ludicrous "we aren't at war with Muslims" speech to the Turkish Parliament and was met with only "polite applause" (lucky he didn't get the kind of boos that a British PM gets every day in British Parliament, in view of the untold numbers of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon and Gaza who have been killed in combat by ourselves, our "willing coalition" partners or our client state of Israel). So yeah, I'd accept as a "friendly amendment" of my statement about Obama's "magic touch" in his speechmaking that perhaps he's losing it with some of his audiences but not with the spinmeisters of the media who mediate most of what we hear and see of Obama's performances.
It's the "Establishment" that isn't up to the job. Never has been. Never will be.
This is the part I thought was the most interesting and it slipped right by:
"...wrote an article in which a column, in which he said that the establishment is now worried that Barack Obama is not up to the job."
"...the establishment is now worried that Barack Obama is not up to the job."
So they are doing their bit to prop him up just like they gave Bush cover instead of ever holding him accountable. Now they even give Obama cover for not holding Bush and company accountable as well. There is only so long that they can shoulder the lie, but oh, the damage it can cause in the time it takes to get there.
Yep, Obama has Potomac fever in the worst way. I think the fun is over for him.
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US can stop lecturing and start apologizing for murdering over a million innocent Iraqis.
Amen to that sneaker. On top of that, stop lecturing Korea over their missiles when both the US/Israel have a boat load of nukes.
I didn't see Iran or Korea on the list of nations who have invaded other countries in the last 10 years, have you?
What hypocrisy, and only in the US can you get away with it.
More American Idol, anyone?
In last 20 years, neither N Korea nor Iran have invaded any country. Unlike the USA and Israel.
Barry lecturing the Iraqis reminds me of Dubya trying to lecture Michael Schiavo about "family values" during the Terri Schiavo fiasco ! When pols try lecturing civilians about "personal responsibility" even when it was not their own fault but in fact the pols' fault, my gut feeling is that there must be a truckload of personal responsibilities that they're trying to hide. Gawd, that weasel pisses me off ! No offense but if Barry were trying to give me a lecture, I'd give him a boot kicking for his arrogance and weasel-mindedness even though I don't generally like to kick anyone even if they're weasels !
Boot kicking ? Girl, you really gave me a woody on that one ! You remind me of when I got kicked 4 times in the groin, twice when a woman wore just regular shoes and twice when a woman wore big boots. Man, those big boots can really make the pain last for more than a day. Too bad you'd go to jail even with your big boots on. Besides, Obama has security guards with him in case you didn't know. :)
I already know he has security guards. I was referring to him otherwise. On the boots, I don't resort to boot kicking unless someone really pisses me off to no end or I'm fighting a mugger. :)
Obama is simply reading the "President's Play Book." Wall Street runs the government (therefore Larry Summers is your man and not Dean Baker) and the Pentagon runs foreign policy (that's why we have Gates and not Kucinich)
We are nearing a throw-a-shoe-at-the President moment as well as a pitchfork-to- the-bankers moment.
Sioux Rose
It seems to me that many writers suffer from tunnel-vision. Here Steele is focused on the "theme of withdrawal," but entirely discounts: 1. The true reasons why this war/occupation was begun 2. That there are PERMANENT bases there (which relates to the real reasons why Iraq was invaded) for a reason, 3. That thus far Obama has proven adept at elaborate word play, but weak of ACTIONS that support his "seeming" contentions.
In this article I hear the subliminal message that "Since we're there, we might as well make the best of it." And the false premise that any president tethered to the might of the MIC actually WANTS or INTENDS to leave until the booty gone after (on false pretexts) is ultimately seized and secured long-term.
Interesting and good point too.
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Mr. Obama spoke in Baghdad like a colonial Vice Roy. "They ought to, they should, they must, a.s.o."
Watch out Obama! Keith Olberman is beginning to notice the difference between your hot air rhetoric and your actions, specifically with regards to our constitutional safeguards. He notices that you are a worse power grabber than George W. Bush when it comes to unsupervised phone tapping. Watch out Obama, Keith can be very persistent.
It "Viceroy".
But I appreciate the insight regarding the word's origin when it is spelled that way. Viceroy = Vice Roi = "Vice King".
Obama sounds and acts exactly like Bush. He thinks the US is doing Iraq a favor by extending this illegal and murderous occupation.
What part of GET THE HELL OUT doesn't the Bush clone understand?
Excellent point. Telling the soldiers: “You have given Iraq the opportunity to stand on its own as a democratic country,”
If this doesn't sound like Bush I don't know what does. So, does that mean he has been in favor of the invasion and occupation all along?
He does not think any such thing. We are staying in Iraq to protect the oil (make sure it does not flood the market and reduce prices),and have a large force in a strategic location to use in the next war, be it Iran, Pakistan or Russia. He would not be President if he did not agree to the terms.
That's exactly what I wrote, why are you preaching to the choir?
"Why doesn't Obama consult Iraqi opinion?"
Maybe because he values the opinion of the 300 Billion/yr. budget of Bush's CIA more.
Pilger has the picture:
Obama is hired help. He is more of a disgrace than Bush because Obama is an intelligent man. What a turncoat! How sad for our country.
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