An Appropriately Populist Anti-Bailout Rant

In my opinion, Kucinich was the best candidate we had. Of course he was marginalized by the establishment and the controlled media.

We all have a write in spot on our ballots. Wouldn't it be neat if We the People just filled in Kucinich's name and, much to the surprise of the media and the establishment, he won by a landslide?

The oligarchy, who have spent multi-millions on their two candidates, would be completely flummoxed! We the People would have finally triumphed.

Paulson: football star, tough guy, someone who stupid men respect, and foolish women lust for. I hear that AIG was bailed out because Goldman Sachs has 20 billion invested with them. Paulson has 1/2 billion invested in Goldman. It's time for some serious gene therapy. In the age of nuclear bombs, tough guys and gals are obsolete. Water takes stone.

Sadly Obama supported the bailout. While I think it is vital that we don't get McCain/Palin, I wish we had a stronger alternative. There has never been a better time for the kind of insight and honest leadership with a public emphasis that Ralph Nader has. Unfortunately, he has little support when his country needs him most and for that we'll pay, and pay, and pay . . .

snydly

THE TOP 1% HAS DECIDED TO SAVE THE TOP 1%.
I CAN'T REMEMBER ANOTHER TIME WHEN THE MSM WAS SO CANTED TOWARD AN ISSUE.
PERHAPS NOT SO SURPRISING---EVERY ONE OF THOSE PUNDITS LOST AT LEAST A MILLION YESTERDAY.

THIS VOTE HAS SHOWN US THAT THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM IS NOT A LINE WITH TWO ENDS, BUT A BROKEN CIRCLE WITH THE ENDS CLOSER TO EACH OTHER THAN TO THE "MIDDLE".
LOOKS LIKE A WINNING COMBO---DENNIS/RALPH/RON TRIUMVIRATE PRESIDENCY.
THE THIRD PARTY IS PURPLE...WITH A HEAVY GREEN TINT!

If you are having trouble phoning then E mail or write a short letter saying how you feel and how the members vote will affect your vote. DIEBOLD can't control every vote ( yet)
This maybe the last time to save America

It will not be a day off tomorrow as the powers that be will be working full time to change a few votes. I am sure some will fold when the call or knock on the door reminds them of a deep dark secret ALL that's right ALL politicians have. All of a sudden the bill will pass.

We know "why why why why." The financial sector is holding the US for ransom, and in a typical show of principle, the majority of Democrats have decided to pay.

"Kucinich was not treated particularly seriously the media or his fellow Democratic candidates."

Hopefully, no poster here is so naive as to be surprised.

If the crisis is so dire...why is Congress taking tomorrow off to celebrate a Jewish Holiday that is not a public holiday??

Are they insane? Or just simply serving their higher masters?

"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats

The whole system is corrupt & we have foxes in the henhouse. This fiasco is a power grab by those in control, and I'm not talking about their puppet politicians on either side of the aisle. Primarily it's the 12 private international banks making up the (non)Federal Reserve System. They have intentionally crashed the financial system before (study 1929 as an almost exact model) in order to enact a hostile takeover of banks in competition, and buy up deflated assets for pennies on the dollar.

Consolidation is the aim on many levels, and after a recovery they will crash the economy once again then repeat the process. The New World Order assumes one world government, and eventually consolidation to the point of one world bank that controls ALL the funds.

The plan is centuries old and only one man has shortstopped the long range plan in the past couple hundred years, that being Andrew Jasckson, who refused to let international bankers have a central bank in the United States. Instead he had the US Treasury issue our money & control our monetary policy.

Guess what? By having interest paid back to the US Treasury, instead of skimmed off by private banks, he remains the only US president to completely erase the entire national debt. Four other presidents since then have tried to accomplish the same feat, but all 'mysteriously' died in office, mostly through assassination. (See a pattern here?)

Our best bet, albeit a difficult challenge, is to abolish the FED, otherwise America will be perpetually in debt to private bankers. I say let the market crash as long as we can crawl from under the usury of the Federal Reserve System. Instead, our 'leaders' are trying to convince us the FED can be a solution rather than the cause of the problem.

Like I said, the foxes are in the henhouse.

Who is leading the charge for this bailout? Ben Bernanke, the head of the FED, and Henry Paulson, former CEO of Goldman Sachs, both high level (private) bankers accountable to no one. Bernanke's interest is to increase the profitability of the 12 FED private banks, and how do we know Paulson's loyalties aren't really compromised by the $523 million he received from Goldman Sachs? After all, in a few short months he will lose his job after the election?

Isn't there an obvious conflict of interest here?

I am watching Anderson Cooper right now give Suze Ormond the platform to scare everyone into supporting whatever congress and the greedheads they work for now want to do. The guy on before her had a high-tech flipchart explaining how Wall Street's travails ultimately impact YOU (capitals his, not mine).

Kudos to our elected representatives for not rolling over right away. Here's hoping they don't roll over at all.

Iraq was the beginning of extracting the wealth of the US and placing it in the hands of the crime families who now run this country. It is not a war - it was a hostile takeover. If you ever wondered what a country governed by the big consulting firms would be like, you are seeing it now. Extract the value and leave debt in its place to be cleaned up by those dumb enough to be left behind.

My car is paid off and I would rather sleep in it for the next few years than have my tax money go to enrich the greedheads who created this mess. Go, Dennis.

Don't let fear make you back down, congresspeople.

JMA

I am watching Anderson Cooper right now give Suze Ormond the platform to scare everyone into supporting whatever congress and the greedheads they work for now want to do. The guy on before her had a high-tech flipchart explaining how Wall Street's travails ultimately impact YOU (capitals his, not mine).

Kudos to our elected representatives for not rolling over right away. Here's hoping they don't roll over at all.

Iraq was the beginning of extracting the wealth of the US and placing it in the hands of the crime families who now run this country. It is not a war - it was a hostile takeover. If you ever wondered what a country governed by the big consulting firms would be like, you are seeing it now. Extract the value and leave debt in its place to be cleaned up by those dumb enough to be left behind.

My car is paid off and I would rather sleep in it for the next few years than have my tax money go to enrich the greedheads who created this mess. Go, Dennis.

Don't let fear make you back down, congresspeople.

JMA

Obama knows why he is voting for the bailout. Unfortunately many of his supporters are in denial about it.

There is a story not too subtly hidden within the lines of the postings on this story.

Most if not all progressives, most if not all thinking people can see that Kucinich is dead on about the attempted $700 Billion theft by the wealthiest of the wealthy.

Obama, as usual, is wrong. Wrong on this issue. Wrong on most issues. We need FDR, we get African American Clinton.

But between the lines....it's screaming.

Where are the Obama supporters ? Why aren't they defending their candidate ? Why aren't the Obama Democrats fighting to convince us that the $700 Billion theft was needed, like their candidate believes. Could it be that they know, what they pretend to not know ? Is that why the Obama throng drown out articles like this one with extreme indifference ?

Please Obama supporters ! He's your guy ! You get angry at all who would vote for real liberal candidates. Please, come defend Obama's position on the $700 billion theft.

After you unscrew your spine bending your values to fit your presidential objectives on the $700 Billion theft, go on to the next issue, the next, then the next, and the next, continually self-deluding and twisting to fit your presidential desires.

You'll be easy to recognize. Human pretzels

Obama has careened to the right so hard I'm worried he may have whiplash!

Everybody thinks that economists like Friedman best know how to deal with the problem. But nobody knows how to fix it because its all carefully crafted criminal bullshit to steal the world's resources and concentrate wealth and power in a decreasing few.

A study published on Science News determined that economists have a worse record of correct predictions than bookies do. But the idiot public still relies on economists to fix things.

Friedman's free market theory simply made the market the slave of monopoly capitalists responsible for bloody dictatorships worldwide.

Every action Kucinich takes confirms my support for him. Unfortunately, he dropped out of the race before the California primary.

Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson, Federal Reserve Chair Ben Bernanke and New York Fed President Timothy Geithner have proposed a plan that is a disaster for tax payers and a gift for Wall Street. I have two proposals that are better than theirs.

Declare a bank holiday as others have suggested. That is, send bank examiners into all the institutions-- investment houses, and insurance companies and the other major players, as well as banks--to assess them. Insolvent ones are simply closed; everyone knows then that those that survive are solvent. Economic life restarts. The total cost is minimal. Vote the Fed sufficient authority to do the job not just on Wall Street and the banks, but in any part of the system not covered by effective regulators would be far less expensive than the trio's scheme.

Or, the government could inject capital directly into financial institutions with a reasonable prospect of survival in the long run but put severe terms on the banks receiving the aid. Somebody to inspect and certify the solvency of financial houses is also a requisite for this option.

Wall Street won’t like these proposals but they are a wise and thoughtful use of the tax payer’s money with the added bonus of accountability.

This economic meltdown isn’t a complicated mess. Our national financial crisis is readily understood by anyone who has seen greed and hypocrisy. But we are now witnessing them on a profound, monumental scale.

Conservative Republicans always want the government to stay out of business and avoid regulation as long as they are making lots of money. When their greed, however, gets them into a fix, they are the first to cry out for rules and laws and taxpayer money to bail out their businesses. Obviously, Republicans are socialists. The Bush administration has decided to socialize the debt of the big Wall Street Firms. Taxpayers didn't get to enjoy any of the big money profits on the phony financial instruments like derivatives or bundled sub-prime paper, but we get the privilege of paying for their debt and failures.

Let's just consider the money. The public bailout of insurance giant AIG is estimated at $85 billion. According to one report, that's more than the Bush administration spent on Aid to Families with Dependent Children during his entire time in office. That amount of money would also pay for health care for every man, woman, and child in America for at least six months.

These, then, are the people -- the Republicans -- who want to run our government for four more years. John McCain isn't just one of them. He rides their jets. He takes their campaign donations. He makes them his campaign advisors. And he tells us to trust him.

He must think we are idiots.

If we vote for him, maybe we are.

Dennis Kucinich leads.

Obama can't even follow. 99 to 1 people are telling him not to support the bailout; he does it anyway.
He knows who butters his bread. It ain't those folks giving him five and ten bucks.

Barack Obama was for single payer before he came out against it.

The underlying premise that superficiality... as defined by Madison Avenue (a stone's throw from Wall Street), is the ultimate criteria for choosing credible political leadership in America, always gets me... to the point of cynicism.

I don't care the physical appearances wuth which wise leaders have been endowed.

That we as a nation, would allow physical appearance to so greatly skew our choices, leads me to only one conclusion.... we are stupid and deserve to be treated like cattle and sheep.

Kucinich doesn't always say the right thing, but he comes close... closer than most all others who "serve". That we would ignore that fact over mere physical appearance is one of the most telling signs of how much we deserve to be mistreated.

We discriminate by "beauty"... not intelligence, understanding and compassion.

snydly

DENNIS---WHAT'S W GOING TO SAY TOMORROW AT 0745???

ON ANOTHER NOTE...SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY ARISE, (I SEE THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM AS NOT A LINE WITH ENDS, BUT A BROKEN CIRCLE WITH THE ENDS CLOSER TO EACH OTHER THAN TO THE "MIDDLE") I WOULD READILY VOTE FOR A DENNIS/RALPH/RON TICKET FOR TRIUMVIRATE PRESIDENCY--AS WOULD 60% OF THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA.

THANKS FOR THE LEADERSHIP TODAY!

snydly

DENNIS---WHAT'S W GOING TO SAY TOMORROW AT 0745???

ON ANOTHER NOTE...SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY ARISE, (I SEE THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM AS NOT A LINE WITH ENDS, BUT A BROKEN CIRCLE WITH THE ENDS CLOSER TO EACH OTHER THAN TO THE "MIDDLE") I WOULD READILY VOTE FOR A DENNIS/RALPH/RON TICKET FOR TRIUMVIRATE PRESIDENCY--AS WOULD 60% OF THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA.

THANKS FOR THE LEADERSHIP TODAY!

snydly

DENNIS---WHAT'S W GOING TO SAY TOMORROW AT 0745???

ON ANOTHER NOTE...SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY ARISE, (I SEE THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM AS NOT A LINE WITH ENDS, BUT A BROKEN CIRCLE WITH THE ENDS CLOSER TO EACH OTHER THAN TO THE "MIDDLE") I WOULD READILY VOTE FOR A DENNIS/RALPH/RON TICKET FOR TRIUMVIRATE PRESIDENCY--AS WOULD 60% OF THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA.

THANKS FOR THE LEADERSHIP TODAY!

snydly

DENNIS---WHAT'S W GOING TO SAY TOMORROW AT 0745???

ON ANOTHER NOTE...SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY ARISE, (I SEE THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM AS NOT A LINE WITH ENDS, BUT A BROKEN CIRCLE WITH THE ENDS CLOSER TO EACH OTHER THAN TO THE "MIDDLE") I WOULD READILY VOTE FOR A DENNIS/RALPH/RON TICKET FOR TRIUMVIRATE PRESIDENCY--AS WOULD 60% OF THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA.

THANKS FOR THE LEADERSHIP TODAY!

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Declare a one month Banking Holiday........no mortages, no foreclosures, no major financial deals. Also close down the various markets for one month.

These gaint financial disasters have been in the making for the last 12 to 15 years. The Bush Administration have removed any sense of restraints and regulations. ...therefore the periods of corrections are going to be deep and long.

A month of investigation, and debates resulting in a clearer definition of these disasters; will result in a planned approach to restructuring and rehabilitation.

There are no quick fixes.......but there are many remedies that won't work.
A careful and balanced approach will reduce the pain and shorten the recovery.

A quick fix will propell the U.S. Economy into a major depression.

,

.
Declare a one month Banking Holiday........no mortages, no foreclosures, no major financial deals. Also close down the various markets for one month.

These gaint financial disasters have been in the making for the last 12 to 15 years. The Bush Administration have removed any sense of restraints and regulations. ...therefore the periods of corrections are going to be deep and long.

A month of investigation, and debates resulting in a clearer definition of these disasters; will result in a planned approach to restructuring and rehabilitation.

There are no quick fixes.......but there are many remedies that won't work.
A careful and balanced approach will reduce the pain and shorten the recovery.

A quick fix will propell the U.S. Economy into a major depression.

,

.
Declare a one month Banking Holiday........no mortages, no foreclosures, no major financial deals. Also close down the various markets for one month.

These gaint financial disasters have been in the making for the last 12 to 15 years. The Bush Administration have removed any sense of restraints and regulations. ...therefore the periods of corrections are going to be deep and long.

A month of investigation, and debates resulting in a clearer definition of these disasters; will result in a planned approach to restructuring and rehabilitation.

There are no quick fixes.......but there are many remedies that won't work.
A careful and balanced approach will reduce the pain and shorten the recovery.

A quick fix will propell the U.S. Economy into a major depression.

,

.
Declare a one month Banking Holiday........no mortages, no foreclosures, no major financial deals. Also close down the various markets for one month.

These gaint financial disasters have been in the making for the last 12 to 15 years. The Bush Administration have removed any sense of restraints and regulations. ...therefore the periods of corrections are going to be deep and long.

A month of investigation, and debates resulting in a clearer definition of these disasters; will result in a planned approach to restructuring and rehabilitation.

There are no quick fixes.......but there are many remedies that won't work.
A careful and balanced approach will reduce the pain and shorten the recovery.

A quick fix will propell the U.S. Economy into a major depression.

,

.
Declare a one month Banking Holiday........no mortages, no foreclosures, no major financial deals. Also close down the various markets for one month.

These gaint financial disasters have been in the making for the last 12 to 15 years. The Bush Administration have removed any sense of restraints and regulations. ...therefore the periods of corrections are going to be deep and long.

A month of investigation, and debates resulting in a clearer definition of these disasters; will result in a planned approach to restructuring and rehabilitation.

There are no quick fixes.......but there are many remedies that won't work.
A careful and balanced approach will reduce the pain and shorten the recovery.

A quick fix will propell the U.S. Economy into a major depression.

,

.
Declare a one month Banking Holiday........no mortages, no foreclosures, no major financial deals. Also close down the various markets for one month.

These gaint financial disasters have been in the making for the last 12 to 15 years. The Bush Administration have removed any sense of restraints and regulations. ...therefore the periods of corrections are going to be deep and long.

A month of investigation, and debates resulting in a clearer definition of these disasters; will result in a planned approach to restructuring and rehabilitation.

There are no quick fixes.......but there are many remedies that won't work.
A careful and balanced approach will reduce the pain and shorten the recovery.

A quick fix will propell the U.S. Economy into a major depression.

,

.
Declare a one month Banking Holiday........no mortages, no foreclosures, no major financial deals. Also close down the various markets for one month.

These gaint financial disasters have been in the making for the last 12 to 15 years. The Bush Administration have removed any sense of restraints and regulations. ...therefore the periods of corrections are going to be deep and long.

A month of investigation, and debates resulting in a clearer definition of these disasters; will result in a planned approach to restructuring and rehabilitation.

There are no quick fixes.......but there are many remedies that won't work.
A careful and balanced approach will reduce the pain and shorten the recovery.

A quick fix will propell the U.S. Economy into a major depression.

,

.
Declare a one month Banking Holiday........no mortages, no foreclosures, no major financial deals. Also close down the various markets for one month.

These gaint financial disasters have been in the making for the last 12 to 15 years. The Bush Administration have removed any sense of restraints and regulations. ...therefore the periods of corrections are going to be deep and long.

A month of investigation, and debates resulting in a clearer definition of these disasters; will result in a planned approach to restructuring and rehabilitation.

There are no quick fixes.......but there are many remedies that won't work.
A careful and balanced approach will reduce the pain and shorten the recovery.

A quick fix will propell the U.S. Economy into a major depression.

,

Wow, the Hobbits save mankind again!!

"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats

Kucinich for President and Marcy Kaptur for Vice President!

Viva La Revolucion! May this CEO PAYOFF REVOLUTION BE ONLY THE FIRST.

IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH

Thank you Dennis. I watched the whole thing this morning. There were other members of Congress making sense as well - DeFazio, Lynn Woolsey, Marcy Kaptur, Sheila Jackson Lee, Earl Blumenthal...

I think this is an opportunity to have a national discussion about what constitutes real value in our real lives.

Opal

shit the owners of http://www.informationclearinghouse.info http://www.bestcyrano.org/thomaspaine/ and http://www.dissidentvoice.org/ just banned me again. What an elitist liberals they are. I post there communism articles from the Revolutionary Communist Party often and from http://www.workers.org/ and that's why they banned me.

I thought that US progressives loved communism, but i am wrong, they are too attached to credit cards, and kapitalism, and there is an elitist left in America that appeals to the middle class bourgeoise sectors of this country, not the most oppressed sectors

WHAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR THE WORLD CAPITALISM CRISIS?

http://www.marxist.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6466&p...

It is argued that the present crisis is the result of regulatory failure to guard against excessive risk-taking in the financial system, especially in the US. It is further argued that "we must ensure it does not happen again". This is ironic indeed! For the past three decades the bourgeois economists and politicians argued precisely the opposite: that all regulations were bad for business and should be abolished (this was particularly advocated for the financial sector).

The demagogic declarations about the need to curb excessive bonuses and regulate boardroom pay are just so much hot air. How are these miracles to be performed? By what mechanism? The bankers have a thousand ways of evading regulation. They keep off-the-books accounts that make it all but impossible for regulators to discover their fraudulent activities. Even the US government uses similar tricks to disguise the real dimensions of its budget deficit.

The argument in favour of regulating the stock markets is absurd, as was the decision to ban (temporarily) the practice of "selling short". In order that the markets can function, it is necessary for people to buy and sell shares, and they must do so on the basis of estimating whether the share price is going to rise or fall. The idea that it is permissible to buy shares only when they are rising is clearly an absurdity.

The credit rating agencies, which were supposed to distinguish good credit from bad, rated securitised mortgage packages without looking at the weaknesses of underlying mortgages. Similarly, purchasers of American debt issued by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac cheerfully assumed that the US government guaranteed it. The result is that the US taxpayer now stands behind more than $5,000bn in mortgages and it is too soon to say what the final bill will be.

The conclusion is quite clear. Either we have a free market based on the pursuit of profit, or we have a nationalized planned economy. But "regulated capitalism" is a contradiction in terms. In another article, The Financial Times puts the question far more clearly:

"no matter what hare-brained ideas politicians come up with to curb controversial pay packets, bright minds in finance will find a way round them or exit the regulated part of the industry."

What is necessary is to abolish these grotesque casinos that decide the fates of millions altogether and replace capitalist anarchy with a rational society based on a planned economy. It is said that the measures taken by Bush and Brown represent nationalization. But these measures have nothing in common with the socialist idea of nationalization. They are not intended to remove economic power from the hands of the wealthy parasites who constitute a monstrous burden on society and an obstacle in the path of progress. On the contrary, they represent an attempt to protect the interest of these parasites by giving them vast subsidies, paid for out of the pockets of the working class and the middle class.

Socialists are radically opposed to these policies, which have nothing in common with genuine nationalization and are only a kind of state capitalism, intended to safeguard the capitalist system. They lead inevitably to an increase in monopolization, mass sackings, bank closures, higher mortgages and other anti-working class measures. The bankers are rewarded for their nefarious activities by the state, which buys up all their losses, then spends further vast amounts of the taxpayer's money to make them profitable, and when this has been done, to sell them back to the bankers, who from this will make a double killing at the expense of society. Then they can resume their speculating and thieving all over again.

What is necessary is to take the commanding heights of the economy out of private hands, by nationalizing the banks and insurance companies and big companies with minimum compensation on the basis of proven need only. Only when the productive forces are in the hands of society, will it be possible to establish a rational socialist plan of production, where decisions are taken in the interests of society, not of a handful of wealthy parasites and speculators.

That is the fundamental aim of socialism. It is an idea that will now be understood and welcomed by millions of people who previously regarded it as it as something strange and alien. The people demonstrating on the streets of New York against the Bush Plan were not socialists. Twelve months ago they would probably still have been defenders of the free market. They have never read Marx and doubtless see themselves as patriotic Americans. But life teaches and in situations like this people learn more in a few days than in a lifetime. The working people of the United States are learning fast. And, as Victor Hugo once said: "No army is so powerful as an idea whose time has come."

London, September 26, 2008

Is this the offical position of the Lollipop Guild?

"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats

On the excellent Democracy Now interview, Dennis suggested this crisis is manufactured. If you don't believe this crisis is manufactured, read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein.

The shrub lost this one!! Did not pass!

This is not the party of FDR anymore.
Panderers and slackwits (but for one or two handfuls) obviously are the rule in congress today.

I am now seriously considering voting Green, Libertarian or Nader this election.

Kucinich has had a better handle on this economic meltdown for a long time. His financial advisor, Michael Hudson, writes with honesty about what is happening. I was a Kucinich fan, I voted for him in the primary and I still feel he is the only person to address truth to power. For a small person he stands heads above the rest of the wimps in Washington. You Go, Dennis. Keep UP the good work!

221 have just voted nay and the Dow is down 682+ and dropping like a rock.
Hallelujah!

What a fraud Kucinich is. I heard him say on the radio this morning that Obama didn't want any bankruptcy protection for Americans attached to the $700 billion larceny.

If he's so outraged by that, why in heavens' name still support Obama? And why not resign the corrupt Dem Party already?

Of course, Kucinich's function is exactly that, to fake outrage. To show foolish Democratic voters that Dems are not 100% bad, only 99.99%.

The most revolting thing was to watch Nancy Pelosi scream 'no more bailouts!' in front of TV cameras 20 minutes after she signed on to one.

Democrats sold out on this bill faster than Republicans, who at least revolted on Friday.

This crime family is using fear and intimidation to panic people. FDR said: " the only thing we have to fear is fear itself". The wealthy, elite that caused this banking miasma, are the ones that are scared to death. Instead of criminals robbing banks we have banking criminals robbing people! Dennis Kucinch, Ron Paul, and a few others tell it like it is, because they have not joined the corporate, soldiers that have sold Americans out. These quislings in Congress, that vote for this bill, are guilty of the most egregious, malfeasance.

it is simple

george is giving his select buddies, the ones he calls the have mores, one last grab into the cookie jar of the public purse.

having succeeded in de-regulating the finacial/banking laws put in place after the last orgy of greed,the corporatists and their cohorts in government have over the last 50 or so years, placed their representatives in all levels of government, from top to bottom.

if one where privy to the finacial holdings of the politicos who are now up before the nations cameras, hand wringing and proclaimming the end of the world,and how terrible it will be should the bailout not pass...

you can bet these very same people stand to lose wealth, in stocks/holdings in these same out-of-control entities they now are going to gift with our money, the ratio of loss is far higher for them, than joe sixpack and family or even a prudent investor with little or no control of his pension funds management...

see the have mores , including most if not all of the politicos of every stripe working on the bailout in play today , stand to lose their shirts..we might feel the pain as the economy shrinks to levels based in fact not derivative fiction, but it will be no where the crash the "have mores" are looking at.

yes i know we all get the shaft either way, but with the big guys going down.. it may cause enough pain to wake up consumer / worker drones, to see how bad things really are.

in any other situation the world would be screamming "conflic of interest", but not in the good ol usa, where "the bull" reigns supreme.

it is simple

george is giving his select buddies, the ones he calls the have mores, one last grab into the cookie jar of the public purse.

having succeeded in de-regulating the finacial/banking laws put in place after the last orgy of greed,the corporatists and their cohorts in government have over the last 50 or so years, placed their representatives in all levels of government, from top to bottom.

if one where privy to the finacial holdings of the politicos who are now up before the nations cameras, hand wringing and proclaimming the end of the world,and how terrible it will be should the bailout not pass...

you can bet these very same people stand to lose wealth, in stocks/holdings in these same out-of-control entities they now are going to gift with our money, the ratio of loss is far higher for them, than joe sixpack and family or even a prudent investor with little or no control of his pension funds management...

see the have mores , including most if not all of the politicos of every stripe working on the bailout in play today , stand to lose their shirts..we might feel the pain as the economy shrinks to levels based in fact not derivative fiction, but it will be no where the crash the "have mores" are looking at.

yes i know we all get the shaft either way, but with the big guys going down.. it may cause enough pain to wake up consumer / worker drones, to see how bad things really are.

in any other situation the world would be screamming "conflic of interest", but not in the good ol usa, where "the bull" reigns supreme.

it is simple

george is giving his select buddies, the ones he calls the have mores, one last grab into the cookie jar of the public purse.

having succeeded in de-regulating the finacial/banking laws put in place after the last orgy of greed,the corporatists and their cohorts in government have over the last 50 or so years, placed their representatives in all levels of government, from top to bottom.

if one where privy to the finacial holdings of the politicos who are now up before the nations cameras, hand wringing and proclaimming the end of the world,and how terrible it will be should the bailout not pass...

you can bet these very same people stand to lose wealth, in stocks/holdings in these same out-of-control entities they now are going to gift with our money, the ratio of loss is far higher for them, than joe sixpack and family or even a prudent investor with little or no control of his pension funds management...

see the have mores , including most if not all of the politicos of every stripe working on the bailout in play today , stand to lose their shirts..we might feel the pain as the economy shrinks to levels based in fact not derivative fiction, but it will be no where the crash the "have mores" are looking at.

yes i know we all get the shaft either way, but with the big guys going down.. it may cause enough pain to wake up consumer / worker drones, to see how bad things really are.

in any other situation the world would be screamming "conflic of interest", but not in the good ol usa, where "the bull" reigns supreme.

Obama listen to Kucinich? If people who are wrong listened to people who are right in this country we wouldn't be going down like the Titanic.

••• All 50 state governors should convene so they can vote to dissolve the federal government immediately. They MUST be STOPPED--either by process or be physically arrested. •••

Perhaps arresting the leaders of this criminal act might suffice.

Also, in a December 15, 2006 article entitled “’Antiwar' Candidate Boosts Illusions in a Pro-War Party,” Jerry White writes:

“The Democratic Party is committed to continuing the criminal occupation of Iraq and the escalation of violence against those who oppose US domination of the Middle Eastern country.

"While sharp tactical divisions exist within the US political establishment, the Democrats are just as committed as the Republicans to the use of military force to secure US domination over the oil resources of the Middle East and to prevent a Vietnam-style defeat in Iraq.

“That is why any talk of a rapid withdrawal of US troops and ending the war has been taken off the table in the month after the US elections. The terms of debate set by both the Bush administration and the Democratic leadership concern the best means to crush the popular insurgency against the occupation and secure the interests of US imperialism in the region.

“The main purpose of Kucinich’s candidacy is to bolster fading illusions that the Democrats constitute a “people’s party,” or at least that there is a progressive antiwar faction within it. He urges support for this supposed faction as a means of pressuring the party leadership to adopt an antiwar platform and wage a struggle against Bush and the Republicans.

"He is joined in this effort by left-liberal forces such as the Nation magazine and the “World Can’t Wait” and “United For Peace & Justice” coalitions, which promote the conception that protests and pressure will move the Democrats to the left.

“There is a significant element of conscious deception both in Kucinich’s candidacy and on the part of those “left” protesters who seek to lend it credibility.

“Anyone seeking an understanding of what role the Ohio congressman will play in 2008, merely has to examine his actions during the contest for the Democratic nomination in 2004, when Kucinich made a similar presidential bid, running as an opponent of the war.

“After Democratic leadership pulled the rug out from under the candidacy of Howard Dean, around whom significant antiwar sentiment had coalesced, measures were taken to suppress opposition to the war within the party and to ensure that the election was not turned into a referendum on Iraq.

"This campaign was consummated through the nomination of John Kerry, who had voted for the war and continued to speak out in support of “victory” in Iraq and even the deployment of more troops.

“In response to this drive by the party leadership, Kucinich folded up his campaign, failing to wage even a struggle against the pro-war plank in the Democratic platform. Instead, he called for unity behind Kerry. “The next critical step we must take is to help elect John Kerry as the next president of the United States,” Kucinich told reporters. “The word is unity. That is the operative word.”

"Given the opportunity to speak at the Democratic national convention, Kucinich called on delegates and voters to “blaze a new path with John Kerry and John Edwards.”

“Thus, Kucinich’s “antiwar” candidacy provided a political cover for the right-wing policies of the Democratic leadership and helped contain the mass opposition to the war within the confines this big business party.

"Although he was exposed as an apologist for the selection of a pro-war Democratic candidate during the last presidential election, this is not stopping Kucinich from offering to play the same role once again.”

Click here for the entire article -- http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/dec2006/kuci-d15.shtml

"One year after taking control Congress, none of the promises of the Democrats have been carried through.

"The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan continue, with the Democrats delivering critical support for over $200 billion more in funding.

"Domestic spying, torture, and other attacks on democratic rights continue unabated.

"The living standards of ordinary people continue to fall, while the wealthiest continue to enjoy massive tax breaks and record profits and bonuses.

“In face of this sordid record, the Kucinich campaign serves to appeal to the broad hostility over the war and inequality, and channel it back into the two-party system.

"At the announcement of his current presidential run in December of 2006, Kucinich stated, “At this moment, people’s trust in government is on the line. Trust in the Democratic Party is on the line.” He added that there is a “sacred responsibility” to “protect people’s faith in not just our party, but in the political process itself.”

“Aside from his slavish insistence of supporting the Democratic Party, the purportedly left-wing program Kucinich offers a mix of the typical reformist proposals and economic nationalism that has proved to be an utter failure in the course of the last century. This is combined with a substantial dose of hypocrisy.

"A recent press release claims that Kucinich is the only presidential candidate who has “the ability and the foresight to make the right decisions at the right time. And when you’re talking about life and death decisions, a belated and apologetic ‘I made a mistake’ is not acceptable.” Nowhere is it mentioned that shortly after 9/11 he voted for the “Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists,” which allowed the Bush Administration to begin the war in Afghanistan and roll back democratic rights.

“Notably, in all of the “strength through peace” rhetoric on Kucinich’s campaign web site there is no mention of the war in Afghanistan, and the immense social catastrophe it has created. In the United Nations global human development index Afghanistan has fallen to 174 out of 178 countries, with declines in life expectancy, literacy, nutrition, and further decay of social infrastructure.

"At the same time the brutal counter-insurgency program of the US military continues to shed the blood of innocent Afghans. Presumably, though, the lack of comment on Kucinich’s web site indicates that Afghanistan is still the “good war.”

“Kucinich presents himself as a populist, with election claims to rework health care, end poverty and reverse environmental degradation. Yet he steadfastly defends the two-party system, which uholds the capitalist social and economic setup. His campaign web site even has as a topic entitled “Saving Capitalism,” containing nationalist economic positions of regulation and protectionism.”

Click here for the entire article -- http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/jan2008/dems-j03.shtml

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How can Dennis Kucinich claim to be an *antiwar* advocate when he supports *pro-war* candidate Barack Obama?

You may recall that back in January of this year, Dennis Kucinich, seeing that he was not getting the primary votes to be a major contender for the Democratic nominee, urged his supporters to vote for Barack Obama.

Barack Obama currently supports *four* wars.

1. During the primaries, Obama vowed that, if elected, he would start withdrawing troops from Iraq in 16 months.

However, once he captured the nomination from Hillary Clinton, he quickly lurching to the right, changing, among other things, his position on Iraq.

Obama now says that, if elected, he will withdraw troops from Iraq at the discretion of the general in the field.

Quoting from a speech he gave in Colorado Springs on July 2, 2008:

"I have always said I would listen to the commanders on the ground. I have always said that the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability.”

In other words: I may withdraw troops in 16 months; but, if conditions change, I may not. (Now all we have to do is find a commander in Iraq who’s a dove!)

2. Barack Obama supports an escalation of the war in Afghanistan -- as does John McCain and Barack Obama

3. Barack Obama supports an invasion of Pakistan -- as does John McCain and George Bush. Indeed, such an invasion has already begun-- with not a peep from Obama and the Democratic Party.

4. Barack Obama supports an invasion of Iran -- as does John McCain and George Bush. And with no weapons “off the table” – that is to say, with the use of nuclear weapons as a military option.

The following is an excerpt from a January 3, 2008 article by Jeff Lassahn, entitled" “’Antiwar' Candidate Kucinich Backs Leading Democrat in Iowa Primary.”

”In a Foreign Affairs magazine piece from July 2007, Obama laid out how he intends to preserve US military dominance:

“’We must use this moment both to rebuild our military and to prepare it for the missions of the future. We must retain the capacity to swiftly defeat any conventional threat to our country and our vital interests. But we must also become better prepared to put boots on the ground in order to take on foes that fight asymmetrical and highly adaptive campaigns on a global scale.”

"His current campaign includes recommendations to add another 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 Marines to the standing military.

“Congressman Kucinich is known as the “antiwar” candidate and has suggested that he would withdraw all troops from Iraq and close military bases there. His willingness to back the openly militarist Obama demonstrates -- far more than his pseudo-leftist rhetoric -- that he has no intention of challenging the geo-political interests of American imperialism.

“Noting that all of the leading Democratic candidates have continued to fund the war, including Obama, Kucinich states, “their judgment was wrong. They have repeatedly said ‘all options’ are on the table with respect to Iran. Intelligence reports revealing that Iran abandoned its nuclear weapons program four years ago again demonstrates that their judgment was wrong.” Thus, Obama funds the criminal enterprise in Iraq and threatens to launch war against Iran but that should not prevent Kucinich’s supporters from voting for the Illinois senator.

“With the elections nearly a year away Kucinich is already retracing the steps he took in the 2004 presidential election. Throughout that year Kucinich denounced the war and corporate America and insisted that mass pressure could push the Democratic Party to the left. Then, prior to the Democratic convention, Kucinich and his supporters dropped their opposition to the right-wing Democratic platform and lined up behind pro-war candidate John Kerry, with Kucinich declaring, “The word is unity. That is the operative word.”

“With the announcement that Kucinich’s supporters in the Iowa caucus should endorse Obama, the Ohio congressman has made it clear he is again seeking to bolster the Democratic Party, which has been further discredited by its collaboration with the Bush administration since taking over the majority of the US Congress in the 2006 elections.

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