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'Honor' Killing: The Crimewave that Shames the World
It's one of the last great taboos: the murder of at least 20,000 women a year in the name of 'honor'. Nor is the problem confined to the Middle East: the contagion is spreading rapidly.
It is a tragedy, a horror, a crime against humanity. The details of the murders - of the women beheaded, burned to death, stoned to death, stabbed, electrocuted, strangled and buried alive for the "honor" of their families - are as barbaric as they are shameful. Many women's groups in the Middle East and South-west Asia suspect the victims are at least four times the United Nations' latest world figure of around 5,000 deaths a year. Most of the victims are young, many are teenagers, slaughtered under a vile tradition that goes back hundreds of years but which now spans half the globe.
2008 Pic from Women's News Network: Police look at the bodies of Sunita Devi (bottom L), 21, and her partner Jasbir Singh, 22, after they were killed by villagers in an “honor killing” in Ballah village in the northern Indian state of Haryana
A 10-month investigation by The Independent in Jordan, Pakistan, Egypt, Gaza
and the West Bank has unearthed terrifying details of murder most foul. Men
are also killed for "honor" and, despite its identification by
journalists as a largely Muslim practice, Christian and Hindu communities
have stooped to the same crimes. Indeed, the "honor" (or ird) of
families, communities and tribes transcends religion and human mercy. But
voluntary women's groups, human rights organizations, Amnesty International
and news archives suggest that the slaughter of the innocent for "dishonoring"
their families is increasing by the year.
Iraqi Kurds, Palestinians in Jordan, Pakistan and Turkey appear to be the worst offenders but media freedoms in these countries may over-compensate for the secrecy which surrounds "honor" killings in Egypt - which untruthfully claims there are none - and other Middle East nations in the Gulf and the Levant. But honor crimes long ago spread to Britain, Belgium, Russia and Canada and many other nations. Security authorities and courts across much of the Middle East have connived in reducing or abrogating prison sentences for the family murder of women, often classifying them as suicides to prevent prosecutions.
It is difficult to remain unemotional at the vast and detailed catalog of these crimes. How should one react to a man - this has happened in both Jordan and Egypt - who rapes his own daughter and then, when she becomes pregnant, kills her to save the "honor" of his family? Or the Turkish father and grandfather of a 16-year-old girl, Medine Mehmi, in the province of Adiyaman, who was buried alive beneath a chicken coop in February for "befriending boys"? Her body was found 40 days later, in a sitting position and with her hands tied.
Or Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, 13, who in Somalia in 2008, in front of a thousand people, was dragged to a hole in the ground - all the while screaming, "I'm not going - don't kill me" - then buried up to her neck and stoned by 50 men for adultery? After 10 minutes, she was dug up, found to be still alive and put back in the hole for further stoning. Her crime? She had been raped by three men and, fatally, her family decided to report the facts to the Al-Shabab militia that runs Kismayo. Or the Al-Shabab Islamic "judge" in the same country who announced the 2009 stoning to death of a woman - the second of its kind the same year - for having an affair? Her boyfriend received a mere 100 lashes.
Or the young woman found in a drainage ditch near Daharki in Pakistan, "honor" killed by her family as she gave birth to her second child, her nose, ears and lips chopped off before being axed to death, her first infant lying dead among her clothes, her newborn's torso still in her womb, its head already emerging from her body? She was badly decomposed; the local police were asked to bury her. Women carried the three to a grave, but a Muslim cleric refused to say prayers for her because it was "irreligious" to participate in the namaz-e-janaza prayers for "a cursed woman and her illegitimate children".
So terrible are the details of these "honor" killings, and so many are the women who have been slaughtered, that the story of each one might turn horror into banality. But lest these acts - and the names of the victims, when we are able to discover them - be forgotten, here are the sufferings of a mere handful of women over the past decade, selected at random, country by country, crime after crime.
Last March, Munawar Gul shot and killed his 20-year-old sister, Saanga, in the North-West Frontier Province of Pakistan, along with the man he suspected was having "illicit relations" with her, Aslam Khan.
In August of 2008, five women were buried alive for "honor crimes" in Baluchistan by armed tribesmen; three of them - Hameeda, Raheema and Fauzia - were teenagers who, after being beaten and shot, were thrown still alive into a ditch where they were covered with stones and earth. When the two older women, aged 45 and 38, protested, they suffered the same fate. The three younger women had tried to choose their own husbands. In the Pakistani parliament, the MP Israrullah Zehri referred to the murders as part of a "centuries-old tradition" which he would "continue to defend".
In December 2003, a 23-year-old woman in Multan, identified only as Afsheen, was murdered by her father because, after an unhappy arranged marriage, she ran off with a man called Hassan who was from a rival, feuding tribe. Her family was educated - they included civil servants, engineers and lawyers. "I gave her sleeping pills in a cup of tea and then strangled her with a dapatta [a long scarf, part of a woman's traditional dress]," her father confessed. He told the police: "Honor is the only thing a man has. I can still hear her screams, she was my favourite daughter. I want to destroy my hands and end my life." The family had found Afsheen with Hassan in Rawalpindi and promised she would not be harmed if she returned home. They were lying.
Zakir Hussain Shah slit the throat of his daughter Sabiha, 18, at Bara Kau in June 2002 because she had "dishonored" her family. But under Pakistan's notorious qisas law, heirs have powers to pardon a murderer. In this case, Sabiha's mother and brother "pardoned" the father and he was freed. When a man killed his four sisters in Mardan in the same year, because they wanted a share of his inheritance, his mother "pardoned" him under the same law. In Sarghoda around the same time, a man opened fire on female members of his family, killing two of his daughters. Yet again, his wife - and several other daughters wounded by him - "pardoned" the murderer because they were his heirs.
Outrageously, rape is also used as a punishment for "honor" crimes. In Meerwala village in the Punjab in 2002, a tribal "jury" claimed that an 11-year-old boy from the Gujar tribe, Abdul Shakoor, had been walking unchaperoned with a 30-year-old woman from the Mastoi tribe, which "dishonored" the Mastois. The tribal elders decided that to "return" honour to the group, the boy's 18-year-old sister, Mukhtaran Bibi, should be gang-raped. Her father, warned that all the female members of his family would be raped if he did not bring Mukhtar to them, dutifully brought his daughter to this unholy "jury". Four men, including one of the "jury", immediately dragged the girl to a hut and raped her while up to a hundred men laughed and cheered outside. She was then forced to walk naked through the village to her home. It took a week before the police even registered the crime - as a "complaint".
Acid attacks also play their part in "honor" crime punishments. The Independent itself gave wide coverage in 2001 to a Karachi man called Bilal Khar who poured acid over his wife Fakhra Yunus's face after she left him and returned to her mother's home in the red-light area of the city. The acid fused her lips, burned off her hair, melted her breasts and an ear, and turned her face into "a look of melted rubber". That same year, a 20-year-old woman called Hafiza was shot twice by her brother, Asadullah, in front of a dozen policemen outside a Quetta courthouse because she had refused to follow the tradition of marrying her dead husband's elder brother. She had then married another man, Fayyaz Moon, but police arrested the girl and brought her back to her family in Quetta on the pretext that the couple could formally marry there. But she was forced to make a claim that Fayaz had kidnapped and raped her. It was when she went to court to announce that her statement was made under pressure - and that she still regarded Fayaz as her husband - that Asadullah murdered her. He handed his pistol to a police constable who had witnessed the killing.
One of the most terrible murders in 1999 was that of a mentally retarded 16-year-old, Lal Jamilla Mandokhel, who was reportedly raped by a junior civil servant in Parachinar in the North-West Frontier Province of Pakistan. Her uncle filed a complaint with the police but handed Lal over to her tribe, whose elders decided she should be killed to preserve tribal "honor". She was shot dead in front of them. Arbab Khatoon was raped by three men in the Jacobabad district. She filed a complaint with the police. Seven hours later, she was murdered by relatives who claimed she had "dishonored" them by reporting the crime.
Over 10 years ago, Pakistan's Human Rights Commission was recording "honor" killings at the rate of a thousand a year. But if Pakistan seems to have the worst track record of "honor" crimes - and we must remember that many countries falsely claim to have none - Turkey might run a close second. According to police figures between 2000 and 2006, a reported 480 women - 20 per cent of them between the ages of 19 and 25 - were killed in "honor" crimes and feuds. Other Turkish statistics, drawn up more than five years ago by women's groups, suggest that at least 200 girls and women are murdered every year for "honor". These figures are now regarded as a vast underestimate. Many took place in Kurdish areas of the country; an opinion poll found that 37 per cent of Diyabakir's citizens approved of killing a woman for an extramarital affair. Medine Mehmi, the girl who was buried alive, lived in the Kurdish town of Kahta.
In 2006, authorities in the Kurdish area of South-east Anatolia were recording that a woman tried to commit suicide every few weeks on the orders of her family. Others were stoned to death, shot, buried alive or strangled. A 17-year-old woman called Derya who fell in love with a boy at her school received a text message from her uncle on her mobile phone. It read: "You have blackened our name. Kill yourself and clean our shame or we will kill you first." Derya's aunt had been killed by her grandfather for an identical reason. Her brothers also sent text messages, sometimes 15 a day. Derya tried to carry out her family's wishes. She jumped into the Tigris river, tried to hang herself and slashed her wrists - all to no avail. Then she ran away to a women's shelter.
It took 13 years before Murat Kara, 40, admitted in 2007 that he had fired seven bullets into his younger sister after his widowed mother and uncles told him to kill her for eloping with her boyfriend. Before he murdered his sister in the Kurdish city of Dyabakir, neighbors had refused to talk to Murat Kara and the imam said he was disobeying the word of God if he did not kill his sister. So he became a murderer. Honor restored.
In his book Women In The Grip Of Tribal Customs, a Turkish journalist, Mehmet Farac, records the "honor" killing of five girls in the late 1990s in the province of Sanliurfa. Two of them - one was only 12 - had their throats slit in public squares, two others had tractors driven over them, the fifth was shot dead by her younger brother. One of the women who had her throat cut was called Sevda Gok. Her brothers held her arms down as her adolescent cousin cut her throat.
But the "honor" killing of women is not a uniquely Kurdish crime, even if it is committed in rural areas of the country. In 2001, Sait Kina stabbed his 13-year-old daughter to death for talking to boys in the street. He attacked her in the bathroom with an axe and a kitchen knife. When the police discovered her corpse, they found the girl's head had been so mutilated that the family had tied it together with a scarf. Sait Kina told the police: "I have fulfilled my duty."
In the same year, an Istanbul court reduced a sentence against three brothers from life imprisonment to between four and 12 years after they threw their sister to her death from a bridge after accusing her of being a prostitute. The court concluded that her behavior had "provoked" the murder. For centuries, virginity tests have been considered a normal part of rural tradition before a woman's marriage. In 1998, when five young women attempted suicide before these tests, the Turkish family affairs minister defended mandated medical examinations for girls in foster homes.
British Kurdish Iraqi campaigner Aso Kamal, of the Doaa Network Against Violence, believes that between 1991 and 2007, 12,500 women were murdered for reasons of "honor" in the three Kurdish provinces of Iraq alone - 350 of them in the first seven months of 2007, for which there were only five convictions. Many women are ordered by their families to commit suicide by burning themselves with cooking oil. In Sulimaniya hospital in 2007, surgeons were treating many women for critical burns which could never have been caused by cooking "accidents" as the women claimed. One patient, Sirwa Hassan, was dying of 86 per cent burns. She was a Kurdish mother of three from a village near the Iranian border. In 2008, a medical officer in Sulimaniya told the AFP news agency that in May alone, 14 young women had been murdered for "honor" crimes in 10 days. In 2000, Kurdish authorities in Sulimaniya had decreed that "the killing or abuse of women under the pretext of cleansing 'shame' is not considered to be a mitigating excuse". The courts, they said, could not apply an old 1969 law "to reduce the penalty of the perpetrator". The new law, of course, made no difference.
But again, in Iraq, it is not only Kurds who believe in "honor" killings. In Tikrit, a young woman in the local prison sent a letter to her brother in 2008, telling him that she had become pregnant after being raped by a prison guard. The brother was permitted to visit the prison, walked into the cell where his now visibly pregnant sister was held, and shot her dead to spare his family "dishonor". The mortuary in Baghdad took DNA samples from the woman's fetus and also from guards at the Tikrit prison. The rapist was a police lieutenant-colonel. The reason for the woman's imprisonment was unclear. One report said the colonel's family had "paid off" the woman's relatives to escape punishment.
In Basra in 2008, police were reporting that 15 women a month were being murdered for breaching "Islamic dress codes". One 17-year-old girl, Rand Abdel-Qader, was beaten to death by her father two years ago because she had become infatuated with a British soldier. Another, Shawbo Ali Rauf, 19, was taken by her family to a picnic in Dokan and shot seven times because they had found an unfamiliar number on her mobile phone.
In Nineveh, Du'a Khalil Aswad was 17 when she was stoned to death by a mob of 2,000 men for falling in love with a man outside her tribe.
In Jordan, women's organizations say that per capita, the Christian minority in this country of just over five million people are involved in more "honor" killings than Muslims - often because Christian women want to marry Muslim men. But the Christian community is loath to discuss its crimes and the majority of known cases of murder are committed by Muslims. Their stories are wearily and sickeningly familiar. Here is Sirhan in 1999, boasting of the efficiency with which he killed his young sister, Suzanne. Three days after the 16-year-old had told police she had been raped, Sirhan shot her in the head four times. "She committed a mistake, even if it was against her will," he said. "Anyway, it's better to have one person die than to have the whole family die of shame." Since then, a deeply distressing pageant of "honor" crimes has been revealed to the Jordanian public, condemned by the royal family and slowly countered with ever tougher criminal penalties by the courts.
Yet in 2001, we find a 22-year-old Jordanian man strangling his 17-year-old married sister - the 12th murder of its kind in seven months - because he suspected her of having an affair. Her husband lived in Saudi Arabia. In 2002, Souad Mahmoud strangled his own sister for the same reason. She had been forced to marry her lover - but when the family found out she had been pregnant before her wedding, they decided to execute her.
In 2005, three Jordanians stabbed their 22-year-old married sister to death for taking a lover. After witnessing the man enter her home, the brothers stormed into the house and killed her. They did not harm her lover.
By March 2008, the Jordanian courts were still treating "honor" killings leniently. That month, the Jordanian Criminal Court sentenced two men for killing close female relatives "in a fit of fury" to a mere six months and three months in prison. In the first case, a husband had found a man in his home with his wife and suspected she was having an affair. In the second, a man shot dead his 29-year-old married sister for leaving home without her husband's consent and "talking to other men on her mobile phone". In 2009, a Jordanian man confessed to stabbing his pregnant sister to death because she had moved back to her family after an argument with her husband; the brother believed she was "seeing other men".
And so it goes on. Three men in Amman stabbing their 40-year-old divorced sister 15 times last year for taking a lover; a Jordanian man charged with stabbing to death his daughter, 22, with a sword because she was pregnant outside wedlock. Many of the Jordanian families were originally Palestinian. Nine months ago, a Palestinian stabbed his married sister to death because of her "bad behavior". But last month, the Amman criminal court sentenced another sister-killer to 10 years in prison, rejecting his claim of an "honor" killing - but only because there were no witnesses to his claim that she had committed adultery.
In "Palestine" itself, Human Rights Watch has long blamed the Palestinian police and justice system for the near-total failure to protect women in Gaza and the West Bank from "honor" killings. Take, for example, the 17-year-old girl who was strangled by her older brother in 2005 for becoming pregnant - by her own father.
He was present during her murder. She had earlier reported her father to the police. They neither arrested nor interrogated him. In the same year, masked Hamas gunmen shot dead a 20-year-old, Yusra Azzami, for "immoral behavior" as she spent a day out with her fiancée. Azzami was a Hamas member, her husband-to-be a member of Fatah. Hamas tried to apologize and called the dead woman a "martyr" - to the outrage of her family. Yet only last year, long after Hamas won the Palestinian elections and took over the Gaza Strip, a Gaza man was detained for bludgeoning his daughter to death with an iron chain because he discovered she owned a mobile phone on which he feared she was talking to a man outside the family. He was later released.
Even in liberal Lebanon, there are occasional "honor" killings, the most notorious that of a 31-year-old woman, Mona Kaham, whose father entered her bedroom and cut her throat after learning she had been made pregnant by her cousin. He walked to the police station in Roueiss in the southern suburbs of Beirut with the knife still in his hand. "My conscience is clear," he told the police. "I have killed to clean my honor." Unsurprisingly, a public opinion poll showed that 90.7 per cent of the Lebanese public opposed "honor" crimes. Of the few who approved of them, several believed that it helped to limit interreligious marriage.
Syria reflects the pattern of Lebanon. While civil rights groups are demanding a stiffening of the laws against women-killers, government legislation only raised the term of imprisonment for men who kill female relatives for extramarital sex to two years. Among the most recent cases was that of Lubna, a 17-year-old living in Homs, murdered by her family because she fled to her sister's house after refusing to marry a man they had chosen for her. They also believed - wrongly - that she was no longer a virgin.
Tribal feuds often provoke "honor" killings in Iran and Afghanistan. In Iran, for example, a governor's official in the ethnic Arab province of Khuzestan stated in 2003 that 45 young women under the age of 20 had been murdered in "honor" killings in just two months, none of which brought convictions. All were slaughtered because of the girl's refusal to agree to an arranged marriage, failing to abide by Islamic dress code or suspected of having contacts with men outside the family.
Through the dark veil of Afghanistan's village punishments, we glimpse just occasionally the terror of teenage executions. When Siddiqa, who was only 19, and her 25-year-old fiancé Khayyam were brought before a Taliban-approved religious court in Kunduz province this month, their last words were: "We love each other, no matter what happens." In the bazaar at Mulla Quli, a crowd - including members of both families - stoned to death first Siddiqa, then Khayyam.
A week earlier, a woman identified as Bibi Sanubar, a pregnant widow, was lashed a hundred times and then shot in the head by a Taliban commander. In April of last year, Taliban gunmen executed by firing squad a man and a girl in Nimruz for eloping when the young woman was already engaged to someone else. History may never disclose how many hundreds of women - and men - have suffered a similar fates at the hands of deeply traditional village families or the Taliban.
But the contagion of "honor" crimes has spread across the globe, including acid attacks on women in Bangladesh for refusing marriages. In one of the most terrible Hindu "honor" killings in India this year, an engaged couple, Yogesh Kumar and Asha Saini, were murdered by the 19-year-old bride-to-be's family because her fiancée was of lower caste. They were apparently tied up and electrocuted to death.
A similar fate awaited 18-year-old Vishal Sharma, a Hindu Brahmin, who wanted to marry Sonu Singh, a 17- year-old Jat - an "inferior" caste which is usually Muslim. The couple were hanged and their bodies burned in Uttar Pradesh. Three years earlier, a New Delhi court had sentenced to death five men for killing another couple who were of the same sub-caste, which in the eyes of the local "caste council" made them brother and sister.
In Chechnya, Russia's chosen President, Ramzan Kadyrov, has been positively encouraging men to kill for "honor". When seven murdered women were found in Grozny, shot in the head and chest, Kadyrov announced - without any proof, but with obvious approval - that they had been killed for living "an immoral life". Commenting on a report that a Chechen girl had called the police to complain of her abusive father, he suggested the man should be able to murder his daughter. "... if he doesn't kill her, what kind of man is he? He brings shame on himself!"
And so to the "West", as we like to call it, where immigrant families have sometimes brought amid their baggage the cruel traditions of their home villages: an Azeri immigrant charged in St Petersburg for hiring hitmen to kill his daughter because she "flouted national tradition" by wearing a miniskirt; near the Belgian city of Charleroi, Sadia Sheikh shot dead by her brother, Moussafa, because she refused to marry a Pakistani man chosen by her family; in the suburbs of Toronto, Kamikar Kaur Dhillon slashes his Punjabi daughter-in-law, Amandeep, across the throat because she wants to leave her arranged marriage, perhaps for another man. He told Canadian police that her separation would "disgrace the family name".
And, of course, we should perhaps end this catalog of crime in Britain, where only in the past few years have we ourselves woken to the reality of "honor" crimes; of Surjit Athwal, a Punjabi Sikh woman murdered on the orders of her London-based mother-in-law for trying to escape a violent marriage; of 15-year-old Tulay Goren, a Turkish Kurd from north London, tortured and murdered by her Shia Muslim father because she wished to marry a Sunni Muslim man; of Heshu Yones, 16, stabbed to death by her father in 2005 for going out with a Christian boy; of Caneze Riaz, burned alive by her husband in Accrington, along with their four children - the youngest 10 years old - because of their "Western ways". Mohamed Riaz was a Muslim Pakistani from the North-West Frontier Province. He died of burns two days after the murders.
Scotland Yard long ago admitted it would have to review over a hundred deaths, some going back more than a decade, which now appear to have been "honor" killings.
These are just a few of the murders, a few names, a small selection of horror stories across the world to prove the pervasive, spreading infection of what must be recognized as a mass crime, a tradition of family savagery that brooks no merciful intervention, no state law, rarely any remorse.
Surjit Athwal
Murdered in 1998 by her in-laws on a trip to the Indian Punjab for daring to seek a divorce from an unhappy marriage
Du'a Khalil Aswad
Aged 17, she was stoned to death in Nineveh, Iraq, by a mob of 2,000 men for falling in love with a man outside her tribe
Rand Abdel-Qader
The Iraqi 17-year-old was stabbed to death by her father two years ago after falling in love with a British soldier in Basra
Fakhra Khar
In 2001 in Karachi, her husband poured acid on her face, after she left him and returned to her mother's home in the red-light district of the city
Mukhtaran Bibi
The 18-year-old was gang-raped by four men in a hut in the Punjab in 2002, while up to 100 men laughed and cheered outside
Heshu Yones
The 16-year-old was stabbed to death by her Muslim father Abdullah, in west London in 2002, because he disapproved of her Christian boyfriend
Tasleem Solangi
The Pakistani village girl, 17, was falsely accused of immorality and had dogs set on her as a punishment before she was shot dead by in-laws
Shawbo Ali Rauf
Aged 19, she was taken by her family to a picnic in Dokan, Iraq, and shot seven times after they had found an unfamiliar number on her phone
Tulay Goren
The 15-year-old Kurdish girl was killed in north London by her father because the family objected to her choice of husband
Banaz Mahmod Babakir Agha
The 20-year-old's father and uncle murdered her in 2007, after she fell in love with a man her family did not want her to marry
Ayesha Baloch
Accused of having sexual relations with another man before she married, her husband slit her lip and nostril with a knife in Pakistan in 2006
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Show Allthese are horrors...local horrors...the local authorities should handle them...
is this article supposed to make me glad we invaded some of these areas, and support our killing there? it doesn't...
killing is bad, no doubt...why don't we stop doing it?
the mafia does their fair share of 'honour' killings too.................
Coco, and your point is?
i don't have a point..........i was just stating a fact.
The bear craps in the woods; that's a fact ma'am, just a fact.
Also, there seems to be nothing in Fisk's essay that promotes wars with primitive and violent cultures that, underpinned by a 1500 year old religion, display and treat women with vicious and barbaric destain. Such behavior has been going on for many more than 1500 years, and waring war against it can have no positive value.
This is also a fact - wars by the West against Central Asian states are never motivated by reason of the practice of most men in those states of treating women like cattle. The wars are initiated invariably to relieve those attacked of their wealth and resources. That has also been going on for many, many more than 1500 years.
richsmith2,
Good point.
Chelsea
"is this article supposed to make me glad we invaded some of these areas, and support our killing there?"
If you knew anything about the distinguished British journalist Robert Fisk, you would know the strength of his opposition to the western invasions of Islamic countries, and his contempt for the murderous misadventures of Messrs Bush and Blair.
many of these killings involve sex and marriage...is he suggesting we open our conventional thinking in that regard? I do...
Acually, Dubet, these "local horrors" are locally here -- in my case, in Southern Ontario, where the father of one of my senior high school students took an axe to her head for the same reasons. No, she did not die, but she required extensive plastic surgery and suffered loss of intellectual functioning, not to mention serious emotional trauma.
yes, crimes happen all over...
Wow what a horrible thing to read and imagine.
I agree with the person who wrote ALL KILLING IS WRONG!!!
***What I really don't like is how they(any media) make it out to be the fault of various religious groups.
Instead of blaming the individual sickos, that seem to do this because of their own mistakes and shame of their own actions, instead of being a real hu-man and admitting when they have done wrong.
You will see More of Discrediting ALL Religions.....
to make way for a new one
The New World Religion/Order
Though Fisk would not shill for the War Party, no doubt this article will be front page at Drudge and the rest proving why we need to "turn the Middle East into glass", (in horrid irony).
Neither the Taliban or their cousins at the local Synagogue or Church can afford to think in humanistic terms, (less their heads explode), but if they were to, they might realize that capitol punishment is essentially an 'honor killing' and question why they tend to strongly support it. The revenge (honor) implicit in the destruction of Afghanistan and Iraq takes this principle to new heights of barbarity. Though modern liberal values have virtually eliminated this specific form of honor killing in Western society, the control of women (and mens') freedom to choose is very structured in many families of the USA and punishment is often severe, Ostracism usually, a fate that for some is worse than death. My wife never knew her biological parents and family due to the unacceptability of her jewish mother marrying an Italian. Another man I knew professionally disowned his own daughter for becoming engaged to a boy outside of their Christian sect.
Bottom line, all women need to be issued guns and be trained to use them from an early age. (kidding!) Real bottom line: "Physician, heal thyself"
These are obviously all horrific crimes.
The USA has it's own problem with women being brutually slaughtered.
It is called Serial Killers. No one sanctions serial killers, but there is a problem in that law enforcement often ignores prosecuting a serial killer for a number of reasons of inconvenience ( see the book "The Profiler").
And two points to bear in mind, unlike some societies, the Taliban are very quick to execute accused rapists.
And Iraq went from a very secular modern nation, to a disintergrated sectarian nation due to USA interventions which caused the slaughter of more women than a decade of honor killings globally and I would bet the USA presence in Afghanistan is causing more deaths of women than honor killings and also radicalizing rather than tempering( as diplomacy could) the Taliban.
These are two wars that were purposely sought out for monetary and power gain, much simpler a problem than undoing cultural traditions.
But perhaps I speak too soon for in fact unjust wars are a USA cultural tradition.
It should be noted that 'honor killings' originate in what Anthropology terms as 'big man' cultures (a situation where a small elite or tyrant rules while the rest of the population are virtually powerless), which also tend to be patriarchal. Thus it is not surprising that those in those cultures who have little or no power over their lives outside of their homes express it inwards to those members of their families who are even more helpless than them, their womenfolk. Also present in 'big man' cultures is an obsession with status, of which 'family honor' (reputation if you will) is an unavoidable facet. Nor should those in the West tut-tut with any hint of superiority, as toned-down forms of such behavior was the norm as recently as three generations ago, and continues to this day in such places as Colorado City, Arizona (home base of the FLDS). What does need to occur though is that wherever possible (in the West for the moment), these crimes be treated as such and the perpetrators be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Humanity is still a primitive species, and the most brutal by far. Good at breeding, clever enough but without true wisdom, most are lacking in basic empathy and altruism, driven by greed, pride and self-interest. It can show up as "honor" killings or as "collateral damage". This is probably a species that not will survive into the next millenium.
Finally, someone who can give a straight, factual report on both the practice and the scale of the killing, and not be accused of being a Zionist (although I'm sure a few who are unfamiliar with Fisk will reflexively do so, anyway). He should write a follow-up about gays.
This is why I have been suggesting to progressives that not every enemy of your enemy is your friend. There are many, albeit small (because nobody searches for them and supports them) non-Islamist liberation groups in the Muslim world. We should make the effort to identify and help them, instead of just cheering on every anti-Western element scattershot.
"This is why I have been suggesting to progressives that not every enemy of your enemy is your friend."
Well Steve, if you can get this message across...Salute my friend. Bet on kneejerk defense of the group(s) that practice this and also the predictable deflection of blame to the West.
All they need do is look back on the range of how the American Left treated Stalin, which correlates quite closely with how the American Left (the real left, not Kucinich Democrats) lost the battle for the American working class. Soon enough there will be a few messages here accusing me of being a right-wing infiltrator, a liberal, a Zionist, COINTELPRO, or any combination thereof.
Perhaps not on the attacks. I notice that some CD'ers are begimnning to wake to the fact that things are changing and old blather is just that. We'll see.
Hey Steve, would you like to expound upon the reasons why "the American Left lost the battle for the American working class?
I was under the impression that "real" leftists were purged from the unions during the Read Scare of the 50's, and this was how they "lost" the working class.
I'm from a union family, and was sent to college on a substantial union scholarship that was handed to me by Harry Van Arsdale. That's journalistic disclosure.
It was very easy to purge the real leftists because at least half the real leftists in America were supporting Stalin. That was the single stupidest thing "the movement" ever did. Stalin was the perfect bogeyman -- not because his image could easily be exploited to mold American working class opinion, but because he was a genuine monster of epic proportions. The American Left, by and large, was too afraid to be seen as selling out the "international" beachhead of Communism to keep their focus on their hard-won American portfolio -- and the real interests of the working class everywhere, which were severely undermined by Stalin's reign of terror. So while America was reeling under the domestic terror of McCarthyism, in which Stalinist American leftists were minority partners, Europe was quietly restructuring its empires and transforming much of its domestic programs into varying degrees of social democracy and/or democratic socialism. That's because the European Left was pro-active on Stalin. It's also why they still have unions that matter in most of the industrialized west -- except for the United States, where they're most desperately needed, but couldn't even stop NAFTA, let alone help build a more just society.
The tattered remnants of The Left today are still making the same mistake -- carrying a red flag instead of the Stars and Stripes with which the American working class genuinely identifies (don't tell me they shouldn't -- I know that, but that's not the point. It would be pretty stupid to tell them there's no God, either). As the Koch Brothers and Dick Armey are showing, it's very easy to rapidly organize tens of millions of people when you create the impression you're against the American government. So being against the government isn't the left's messaging shortfall. But when we insist on framing ourselves as against the American people, that's a foolish tactic and it simply can't work. The right-wing working class does not consistently vote against its own interests on purpose -- they're convinced that the investor class's interests are the same as their own. All the left need do is be against the government, like the Tea Parties, plus one more thing -- against the investor class that controls it, demonstrative of the conflict between owners and workers, and openly supportive of the people. You have to stay focused on what's achievable. You can't get distracted by also trying to sell the burning of the flag, the elimination of international borders, and the death of Jesus. Putting together tactics that work isn't brain surgery. All you do is look at organizations that have organized well and led effectively around their issues, and put what they've done in your "if possible, do this" list, and look at all the organizations that have organized poorly and failed with their programs, and put everything they did in your "don't do this" list. That's it.
I know that's much more than you asked about, but it's worth considering in this forum. By and large, whether by having bad tactics that don't play to the American market, scattered focus, or insistence on voting for Democrats, we suck and in a time of great and gathering crises we're useful for nothing. It can all be traced back to supporting Stalin.
Steve 5:25 ------- Excellente' ------ Excellente'
You are exactly correct on tactics. Everyone here should take your post to heart.
Real leftists are not necessarily unionists they are anarchists. Unions are as much a part of corporatist states as the corporate executives and politicians. The three sit at a table together and plan the corporate fascist state. Real leftists want true fairness and justice for all not just those sitting at the table in a tripartist corporatist fascist state.
I've been part of many union struggles and I think your comment is inaccurate.
Labor uinins are inherently progressive. They can be hijacked and robbed of their progressive potential.
Anarchists have historically been strong supporters of unions (the IWW comes to mind but yere are countless other examples). Unions are an example of the voluntary organizations that anarchists promote.
Actually, I appreciated the effort that you put into your response.
I think I would put less emphasis on the pro-Stalinist factor, but your point is well taken.
The non-populist nature of the Left today is a frequent subject of my own ponderings. It seems that since the late 70's, there has been an ever longer list of "progressive" shiboleths, and this has backed the Left into an ever smaller corner.
The recent partial resurrection of the Left, 2000 - 2008, was accomplished due to a willingness to put aside many other issues and focus on being anti-Bush and anti-war.
Now, without Bush, it seems as if the Left has once again collapsed.
I agree with your idea that the two major planks of the Left. The Left should oppose the government, as the US government is clearly a tool of the corporatists and militarists. Add opposition to the banksters and other corparados and you get the beginnings of popular appeal. Opposition to the wars is also a potentially populist plank.
"This is why I have been suggesting to progressives that not every enemy of your enemy is your friend."
Thank you for saying what I've been saying all along. It's nice to get some agreement here on CD.
My goodness... I just read your post and all the posts that followed in the thread and, astonishingly, I agreed with almost everything that was said. For the first time, I actually find Fisk not just tolerable (which would be a great leap) but actually laudable. The universe has flipped. What's next? Casual Mondays at work?
50+ comments and not one blaming Israel or the Zionists. I'm impressed and happy.
Yes, some are belaboring the point that this is not just an Islamic problem. Certainly it isn't, though all the evidence I've seen is that it predominantly is. Asking for acceptance of that fact may be a bit much.
So yes, when we realize that Hamas, Fatah, and pretty much all the governments in the Middle East treat women and homosexuals like garbage, we will realize that the people of the Middle East deserve our love and care far more than the state or people of Israel deserve our hate and violence.
Oh, the islamophobes and war mongers are going to love this one. They can ignore the introductory paragraphs that point the finger at Christians and Hindi equally and seize on the majority of the article which is almost entirely muslim. Why couldn't Fisk have worked a bit harder and dug up a more varied case book? Of course all the muslim crimes are there and easily available - they have been part of the foundation for warmongering against islam for decades. How shameful that we cannot expose the patriarchy's war on women (also experienced by women in the west, if less dramatically) without using it to serve the patriarchy's other wars.
I had a similar thought, Briar.
This is a dreadful and sobering recital of barbaric homicidal atrocity and appalling culture-sanctioned cruelty.
It's contemptible at best to use this report to obliquely legitimate the fraudulent Manichean "clash of cultures" or the manufactured reactionary stereotype of "Islamofascism", or promote the relativistic argument that the utter evil described here somehow diminishes or exculpates other state-sanctioned barbaric homicidal atrocity and appalling culture-sanctioned cruelty.
Fisk's turf is the Middle East, so he naturally writes about the places he knows best. I don't dispute his claims, nor the fact that these horrific practices are more prevalent in patriarchal tribal cultures.
But without stopping to research the question right now, I believe it's correct to note that the degraded concept of "honor killings" persists in Latin culture as well, both in Europe and South America. I wish Fisk had explicitly cited this, if only to inoculate against the facile interpretation you rightly deplore.
It's not a Muslim thing; it's a tribal thing. But most of the tribes who are practicing these horrors are Muslim. The killings can and will be used to promote war on Islam. But I don't think we can avoid that by trying to downplay the crimes against women. We have to help pro-woman NGOs to change things. Remember, it wasn't long ago that wife-beating and child abuse were accepted norms here. They still happen, but they have become culturally unacceptable because of political organizing by feminists.
All violence against women is 'honour' violence.
The media hypes it up and calls a common cross cultural phenomenon something different when it involves other cultures. This supports bigotry.
Ask any perp of violence against women, they all say she had it coming, she asked for it, usually by "attacking" the self image of the perp by not knowing her place and daring to think she is equal.
IOW, she "attacked" their honour, their perception of themself as an individual and as a person within society, and violence is perpetrated against her to restore that honour.
And you can find supporters of violence against women in all cultures.
As you can find opponents of violence in all cultures.
As I said, it's a non-story.
I disagree. When the law of the land says a raped woman should be killed this is quite different from a culture that may simply look at the woman with disdain.
law of the land ptui
the effect is the same
women are raped and murdered every day all over the world
everytime a woman is murdered they have been the victim of a person or persons who want to control women and who consider equality a crime punishable by death. De facto or de jure, they are still dead
sadly, men are murdered in even greater numbers, but for money
it's called war
American women are beaten and murdered every single day for a man's "honor." If he can't have her, no one will. Or if she "misbehaves" in his eyes or dares to leave him, he will punish her, one way or the other.
All women worldwide understand, once we mature a bit so we truly understand, that all men contain serious rage which, if we care about our safety, we will be careful not to arouse.
But this limits our freedom - men's point - so that we are all, to some extent, subject to men's rule.
In difficult times, women suffer more from men's rage than in good times. Difficult times are coming and will last for a long time.
Glad I was born when I was so that I am not a young and vulnerable woman in these times.
The comparison you make to domestic abuse in the US and the honor killings discussed in the article is facile at best.
While thee is clearly violent misogynist rage in the US, in most US states, a mere allegation of domestic abuse leads to mandatory arrest of the man accused. A far cry from the response by authorities described in the article.
Also there is virtually no mainstream cultural support for "honor killings" in America. They are viewed almost universally as psychotic crimes.
Furthermore, tens of thousands of men are victims of domestic violence in the US. Violent rage is by no means the exclusive preserve of men. See this bibliography of studies of gender patterns in domestic violence:
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
Also see:
http://www.forensicnursemag.com/articles/391lifedeath.html
"In 2000, an intimate partner killed approximately 1,247 women and 440 men."
Finally, your statement that "all men contain serious rage" is an over-generalization and oversimplification of reality, and it is insulting to men in general.
The face of domestic violence is much more complicated than most feminist propaganda would suggest.
In the face of the utter horror of this plague of honor killings, your comment strikes me as a stereotyped attempt to score political points.
Unfortunately It is treated almost as a myth that men are victims of domestic violence because the numbers are smaller. Plus if one brings it up then they are considered mysogynistic.
You will not see an article concerning this on CD because it is too un-PC and not "progressive".
These are the two CommonDreams "truths" that can never be challenged:
Only women are victims of domestic violence.
White people can never be victims of racially motivated violence.
Not all men have rage.
The vast majority of men are terribly pained to see such violence perpetrated.
But I hear you when you say that women are always on 'alert'.
I am reading Thich Nhat Hanh's book "Anger".
In which he claims all people have anger and it should not be denied by those within which the anger resides, but loved in order to diminish it.
Exactly how one loves or embraces one's anger I am not quite sure.
anger is not the enemy
anger is an energy
It's good to be angry about things we don't like, it's normal
We should just make sure we use our energies to build and not destroy
I personally disagree that anger is an inherently bad thing and should be controlled or diminished. Many great positivee changes have been accomplished because someone was angry.
And there you have it, most religions denounce anger or makes it a sin, ( as if a normal feeling should be denounced ) because anger motivates change and rebellion .
I disagree a bit - anger is an emotion, i.e. a mammalian adaptive (and adaptable) response to stimuli, which allows for 'culture' of sorts. One can easily modify one's response to such stimuli: see Ilan Shalif's method.
If the linking is broken, try http://ilan.shalif.com/psychology/content1.htm
A reminder yet again that the human race is too screwed up to survive. And given the ability to finish itself off, which it now possesses, it will do so . . . or at least make a concerted and serious attempt.
I keep hoping for an asteroid a quarter the size of the moon, but a nice little nuclear war would do as well. After all, that is what the US 'mongers, aka generals, really want, but of course they think in terms of a "limited" nuclear war (hahahahahaha). They just want to see a few of them detonate, something we reall haven't been able to "enjoy" since open air testing was halted.
Wow what a horrible thing to read and imagine.
I agree with the person who wrote ALL KILLING IS WRONG!!!
***What I really don't like is how they(any media) make it out to be the fault of various religious groups.
Instead of blaming the individual sickos, that seem to do this because of their own mistakes and shame of their own actions, instead of being a real hu-man and admitting when they have done wrong.
You will see More of Discrediting ALL Religions.....
to make way for a new one
The New World Religion/Order.
And this "Religion of Peace" wants to bring sharia law to the US.
good
I've had enough of the violence and hate from that other religion of peace that takes over governments
christianity
:wink:
ALL religions are dangerous when they become extreme.
Fundamentalists of any religion are downright frightening people.
“Honor killing” isn’t that big a deal when you compare it to other common causes of premature death. Twenty thousand a year – in the U.S., we sacrifice 45,000 people every year by selfishly not providing medical care to everyone.
Honor killing grabs our attention because it is, after all, terrorism. The idea is to terrorize the living by taking out a few people for supposed offenses against morals or religion.
Terrorism should be addressed by law enforcement. If Bush/Obama have proven anything, it's that armies and military operations are ineffective against terrorism.
The proper approach is to establish clear laws across international boundaries prohibiting terrorism in the form of “honor killing,” punish the terrorists, and persuade those supporting the terrorists but not actually participating that the terrorism is not only illegal, but immoral.
We have a long way to go. But the U.N. seems like a good place to start.
Sounds right to me.
Thanks for the rational perspective.
I suppose all the killings shown on the most lucrative and successful commercial show America’s Most Wanted are "dishonor killings".
The practice of "honor killing" is from countrys where Islam is practiced but there are other similar practices called dowry or crimes of passion in other countries. It crosses religious and cultural boundaries. It happens in countries where women are considered property by males that consider it justified.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/02/0212_020212_honorkilling.html