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Afghanistan’s 'Bravest Woman' Pins Hopes on USA, Not Obama
Malalai Joya has been called "Afghanistan's bravest woman." When the Taliban ruled her country, she braved death, running an underground girls school. When the US military overthrew the Taliban she ran for parliament.
But that doesn't mean she's a supporter of the U.S. military, or President Obama's decision to double the number of American troops in her country.
A Woman Among Warlords from New America Media on Vimeo.
"Unfortunately, President Obama's foreign policy is a lot like [the] criminal Bush," she said in a sit-down in interview during a recent visit to San Francisco. "He follows war in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Pakistan." Joya's opposition to the U.S.-NATO occupation of Afghanistan began shortly after foreign troops arrived in 2001.
Immediately "after the 9/11 tragedy, my people thought maybe this time the US government will be helpful for our people," she said. "They were hopeful that Taliban domination has been destroyed maybe this time they will give a chance to justice-loving, democrat-minded people of my country. At least to people who don't have bloody hands!"
But Joya found that hope dashed quickly - as early as December 2003 - in the first meeting of Afghanistan's newly-elected constitutional assembly. She looked around the room and saw the United States and NATO had invited a who's who of the warlords who had destroyed her country to form a new government.
She was 24. And she couldn't stay silent.
"I wish to criticize my compatriots in this room," she said amid boos, catcalls and scattered cheers. "Why would you allow criminals to be present at this Loya Jirga, warlords responsible for our country's situation? Afghanistan is the center for national and international conflicts. They oppress women and have ruined our country. They should be prosecuted. They might be forgiven by the Afghan people, but not by history."
The chairman responded by throwing her out.
"The sister has crossed the line of what is considered common courtesy," he said, banging his gavel. "She is banished from this assembly and cannot return. Send her out! Guards, throw her out! She doesn't deserve to be here."
But Joya did not give up. She ran for Parliament again in 2005 and was elected a second time. In 2006, she was physically attacked on the floor of the Parliament, when she said: "There are two types of Mujahidin" - freedom fighters - "one who were really Mujahidin, the second who killed tens of thousands of innocent people and who are criminals."
Joya was again expelled from Parliament. One law-maker Jebel Chelgari said that wasn't enough. She should be punished with a gun, he said. Like many members of post-Taliban Parliament, Joya says Chelgari has a reputation for brutality.
"This cruel man, this non-educated, ignorant man," she says, "is famous
in his province as a head eater. Because he has killed so many people
they do not even mention his name. They call him ‘head eater.'"
All together, Joya has survived five assassination attempts. But at
least she's still alive. Other women's rights advocates have not been
so lucky.
She breathlessly rattles off a half dozen prominent women who have been killed by the U.S. and NATO, U.S.-backed warlords, the Taliban and general lawlessness since September 2001.
There is Malalai Kakar, Afghanistan's most prominent policewoman, who headed up Kandahar Province's department for crimes against women, who was shot and killed while driving her car on September 28, 2008.
Also among the dead is Sitara Achakzai, who spent the years of Taliban rule in Germany and returned to Afghanistan in 2004 to join women working to promote their human rights and struggling to secure peace. For International Women's Day on March 8, 2009, she played a major role in organizing a national sit-in of more than 11,000 women in seven Afghan provinces. On April 12, 2009, she was gunned down in broad daylight in front of her home.
"This list can be prolonged," she says. "When these brave activist women get killed mainstream only reports like a bird has been killed. That is it."
That these war-lords remain in power is not an accident, she said. They thrive on the drug trade and are actively supported by the United States and other regional powers.
And that arrangement has gotten worse under Obama than Bush, she said, because certain warlords deemed too brutal to take part in the Afghan government under Bush have been invited to the bargaining table under Obama.
One example she cites, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, is a 61-year-old veteran of Afghanistan's three decades of war who gained infamy for rocketing his own capital during a brief stint as prime minister in the 1990s.
Bush had put a $25 million "price on his head" for participating in terrorist actions with Al-Qaeda, she notes, and in 2003 the State Department designated Hekmatyar a "Specially Designated Global International Terrorist".
This April, however, U.S. officials began meeting with Hekmatyar's representatives in hope that he would join the government.
So Joya has taken her fight directly to the occupiers. She's written a book - A Woman Among Warlords: The Extraordinary Story of an Afghan Woman Who Dared to Speak Out - and is touring the very countries that occupy Afghanistan - England, Germany, Canada, and the United States.
Joya says she has hope for the future. If the NATO and the US military leave Afghanistan, she says life will gradually improve.
If "these occupation forces leave Afghanistan and their governments leave us alone then we'll know what to do with our destiny - if they leave us a little bread and peace, because these war lords and the Taliban have no fruit among the heart of my people. My people hate them."
In this way, she sees the weakness of Hamid Karzai's government as a strength, not a cause for concern.
"Resistance of my people is a big hope for my people of Afghanistan. That's why my message to the great people of the U.S. and the around the world is that your government must leave our country, but you are the ones that must join your hands with us: human rights organizations, justice-loving people and intellectuals, feminist organizations-they are the ones that must not leave us alone. As much as we can, we need your support."
New America Media editor Aaron Glantz is author of The War Comes Home: Washington's Battle Against America's Veterans



47 Comments so far
Show AllI salute you Malalai Joya! You've got that rare courage.
Her existence on left-wing media helps support the notion that the aerial bombardment of Afghanistan is about feminism.
The audience is introduced to this brilliant "feminist" icon, wheras all the Afghan men on MSM are portrayed as badly-groomed scumbags.
Thank you, left-wing media for providing air support for the MIC.
May the wisdom of Malalai Joya invade the minds of all the warmongers.
Her wisdom seems like it was packaged for a Western media audience.
This quote attributed to her: ""after the 9/11 tragedy, my people thought maybe this time the US government will be helpful for our people," sounds like it came from an old Western movie.
How does she know what "her people" thought? Is she only speaking for her immediate family or does she run a national polling firm?
Wouldn't it be nice if the governments just got out of the way. They do so much more harm than good. Keep the faith Malalia, we are with you.
I am just surprised that the US has not yet declared her a terrorist.
be patient . . .
In so many ways, Obama is showing who he really is. Bush on steroids. Bush governed Texas as a moderate (Rove's genius), Obama went into the gritty streets of Chicago as a community organizer. Both were simply polishing their resumes.
And clearly the "war on drugs" is a lie. I think the real intention is, the more drugs, the better. Every time I think Obama can't shock me, he manages to do so. Inviting in the narcotics trade warlords to run Afghanistan?? There are those on Commondreams who had him pegged all along, such as RichM. He's just an obscene water carrier for the fascists taking over the world, and completely lacking in morals, scruples, and humanity. But hey, Hitler loved dogs, Obama loves his kids.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
It might seem like a trivial criticism, but, I don't think it is ..... you write
"He's just an obscene water carrier for the fascists taking over the world, "
There is a tendency to use 'fascists' whenever you're looking for the worst word you can think of, but I think it is mis-applied in this instance. If you read Hitler, you will see that he FOUGHT AGAINST the financial oligarchy controlling the western world, so, for example, we have from Mein Kampf, Ch. 8, "The Beginning of My Political Activity", the following ...
"As I listened to Gottfried Feder's first lecture about the 'breaking of interest slavery,' I knew at once that this was a theoretical truth which would inevitably be of immense importance for the future of the German people. The sharp separation of stock exchange capital from the national economy offered the possibility of opposing the internationalization of the German economy without at the same time menacing the foundations of an independent national self-maintenance by a struggle against all capital. The development of Germany was much too clear in my eyes for me not to know that the hardest battle would have to be fought, not against hostile nations, but against international capital. In Feder's lecture I sensed a powerful slogan for this coming struggle.
And here again later developments proved how correct our sentiment of those days was. Today the know-it-alls among our bourgeois politicians no longer laugh at us: today even they, in so far as they are not conscious liars, see that international stock exchange capital was not only the greatest agitator for the War, but that especially, now that the fight is over, it spares no effort to turn the peace into a hell.
The fight against international finance and loan capital became the most important point in the program of the German nation's struggle for its economic independence and freedom."
Whatever you say about Obama, he ain't a fascist as described above.
Not Allan, Obama is supporting government secrecy, CIA black sites, protecting Bush war criminals, giving the banks whatever they want, including paying THEM to modify mortgages (should they choose to do so - which they don't). And he has no qualms about blowing up men, women and children. Other than the fact that the corporations were also quite happy with Hitler and backed him regardless of his socialist policies, I wasn't conflating Obama and Hitler except to point out each had a soft spot. Not that Obama is showing any socialist tendencies, he isn't. What Obama and Hitler do have in common is hegemony and no sacrifice on the part of others is too great.
And if you don't think the corporate empire, which he protects and promotes, isn't fascist, I would say you have a shock coming.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
[Obama is ..... giving the banks whatever they want, ....]
If you had read my post, you would know that Hitler didn't give the banks a damn thing. He recognized that the financial elite was the prime enemy of the German people. The German banks opted out of the world financial system, and issued their own money, not based on the then current gold standard which had helped bankrupt them.
Instead, Obama is giving the banks everything, because he is their man. He is not a fascist. The banks are not fascists. The fascists fought against the international financiers, and freed their country from the debt slavery that they had been subjected to since the end of WW I. Obama doesn't give a damn about corporations, he'll end up selling US manufacturing to the highest bidder, i.e., international finance.
The only party that has fought the international bankers has been the real fascists, i.e., the Nazis.
Uh-oh! Now someone among the CD readership is going to accuse you of being a sympathiser of the Nazis!
But wait! They don't like the excessive power of big finance either! The following internal discussion then ensues: "That make me a nazi! Gasp! (dizzy spell of cog dissonance sets in) No! Attack the messenger! Attack the messenger! NotAllan, you are a Nazi!"
This, unfortunately the level of discussion I often see here. The inteelctual equivalent of not being able to walk and chew gum at the same time...
Disregard the above sarcastic remarks, in subsequent posts, Not Allan _does_ seem to be a genuine admirer of Naziism and authoritarianism.
[Disregard the above sarcastic remarks, in subsequent posts, Not Allan _does_ seem to be a genuine admirer of Naziism and authoritarianism.]
No, like everyone else in the world today, I abhor 'authoritarianism'. I do see Nazism as a more or less rational response to the situation that Germany was in after WW I.
And, I'm, like Hitler, completely contemptuous of 'democracy' as it exists in the US. Here's why, this predates my reading of Adolf .... what was the most important political issue of the last half of the 20th century?
You don't even know the answer. It is invisible, submerged completely below consciousness of the average idiot.
Here's the answer .... try to understand this .... the most important issue was nuclear weapons policy. What input did 'democracy' have? ABSOLUTELY NONE. In the 80's there was a nuclear freeze movement that passed ballots in 17 states to freeze nuclear weapons development. Google it. The people tried to have an input into the system. What happened? Reagan announced Star Wars and ignored the nuclear freeze movement altogether. It disappeared.
Democracy is a sham. It will (may) take authoritarism to save the world from nuclear war, from destroying the environment, etc. I'm back to thinking that Plato and Socrates were as good as it gets on the merits of different forms of government. Democracy and anti-authoritarism is a religion in the world today, but it is all a complete illusion.
Not Allan 6:57 -------- Sincerely speaking you need a basic course in logic.
Your making alot of false deductions.
The Democracy in the USA is a sham and the name of that sham is Authoritarianism in particular a fascist corporate dictatorship.
Glenn ....
[Sincerely speaking you need a basic course in logic.]
I have an engineering resume as long as your arm ! Logic is assumed in engineering, if you aren't logical, you're not an engineer. You're also data driven, you have to be. If a hypothesis doesn't measure up, you reject it. No place for 'ideology'.
Hitler's Germany = Nazism .... by definition.
What we've got in the US is dissimilar to Nazism in 100 ways. It ain't Nazism. Hitler and Obama have NOTHING in common. Hitler was a ground up real populist. Obama is an affirmative action populist, groomed and programmed by the oligarchy. Using language in such a sloppy way, calling everyone a Nazi, clouds thought, or gives the appearance of thought, when it's just namecalling.
Not Allan, here's an interesting link showing German business support for the Nazi Party and Hitler in his rise to power. I read that American business also invested in Hitler. We have heard about the Bush family investments as well.
http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/1658
The House of Krupp by William Manchester is also a great read.
pjd suggests that some may read your post as sympathetic to the Nazis. I don't see any suggestion of that. But perhaps they might take my remark that he loved dogs as being sympathetic. And yes he was a populist. That's part of why the Germans voted for him. The allies (France and Britain primarily) were starving them as punishment for WW1.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
That is a terribly spooky reflection of current day popular sentiments vis a vis "Wall-street and Main street".
Never forget that Hitler was, first and foremost, a populist, and populism is a two-edged sword - the right edge unfortunately often being much sharper than the left.
[Never forget that Hitler was, first and foremost, a populist, and populism is a two-edged sword - the right edge unfortunately often being much sharper than the left.]
You're exactly right, Hitler was a populist. I don't see why the 'right' edge should be sharper than the 'left', and besides, this distinction is an ILLUSION. To see this, which side is the financial elite on? Right? Left? Answer: the financial elite are neither right nor left, the division is a charade for the hoi polloi.
And the fact remains, Hitler led the only party who fought the financial elite.
He also had great contempt for 'parlimentary democracy' (paradoxically he admired the British government) and explicitly realized that the only way the dumb masses could be moved was by first, correct analysis, and second, a charismatic leader. I think it's still true.
OK.....so, you really are a neo-Nazi?
I read Mein Kampf a few months ago. Prior to that I though anyone who read it was a complete idiot. Now, I think it is must reading for anyone interested in analyzing the current situation in the US. Hitler was, IMO, a brilliant analyst of the situation in post WW I war Germany. He was a brilliant analyst of the 'left', yep, they were in Germany big time. MUST READING. It is well written ! It made Hitler rich !
You want to sympathize with Hitler? Consider, he was right next door to communist Russia, and watched as the communists murdered millions of their own citizens.
Am I a neo-Nazi? Define neo-Nazi (spoken with a Bill Clinton Arkansas accent). I'm not a member of any organization, just a country boy who went to the big city.
(I am a holocaust denier. Google holohoax 101 to see a list of reasons to doubt. Once you see that the holocaust is a hoax, and recognize that it is affirmed by academia almost to the last professor, you know that everything that you have learned to this point may be false, it's like a tear in reality; almost, but not entirely, incomprehensible.)
Hitler's collusion with Western capitalism and vestigial aristocracy ran deep and has been documented fairly well.
Hitler fought internal to establish political control, not to separate that capital from its owners. Krupp did fine in Nazi Germany, as did many American companies throughout most of the war.
When capital did suffer in Germany, it did so almost entirely from Allied bombing, not from any wrath or socialist tendencies in "national socialism."
0bama has written against the rule of bankers as well --- with about as much honesty.
Allan 3:23 ------ Look up Fascism ------- It describes Hitler's Germany exactly.
What you write above is not the definition of Fascism but political philosophy espoused by the epitome of Fascism.
Nice to see there are still REAL heros left in a time of double speak, obfuscation and faux liberalism. We should be hearing from the liberal mavens employed to police a politically correct agenda any time now...
As much as she deserves admiration, she's a fool to place her hopes in the USA.
Malalai, you are a role model we so desperately need.
Hey progressive, can we stop being cheerleaders for corporate candidates and work to counter this pernicious force? "IF we don't do it, you know somebody else will." (Dr. John). If we continue to support the likes of Barack Obama, Clinton, etc. we might as well just fold now because others will capture the mood and divert it right back to the same hands. It's past time to tame the beast, not feed it.
Bush was bad and a war criminal. Obama is good and the Nobel Peace Prize winner. We must support Obama. He is a great man. Stop trying to bring him down!
How do we interpret this remark:
Case A - It is sarcasm targeted at those so-cslled "moderates" who are the only ones left still supporting Obama. In that case, maybe it hs a point, although Obama's cortiers, or Democrats like Pelosi or Conyers never considered Bush a "war criminal" unfortunately.
Case B - It is sarcasm targeted at the typical CD readership. In that case, it is completely invalid. Most CD readers are at the point where Obama is considred a war criminal too.
someone else can do the other cases
Case C - He's just hooting.
This may not be sarcasm.It's an opinion shared by many who elected our first African_American president, a former community organizer. I don't go along with the simplistic thinking, but it's closer to what millions of people believe than the fire-breathing diatribes against the only realistic hope that progressives have: Mr. Obama. Unfortunately, realism seems to be out of fashion at CommonDreams.
Obama is "... the only realistic hope that progressives have."
This is our "hope"? "realistic hope"? HOPE? H O P E?
A change that we can beleive in, perhaps?
AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!
Sorry, were right out of HOPE. The last delivery was nearly a year ago, and we haven't been able to order any since. But not to worry, we have just received a fresh shipment of DOPE. Its the next best thing.
Hi Sonny, Just look at this shiny BLACK HOPEmobile. You will be the envy of the neighborhood! No, you cant look under the bonnet until you have paid for it. No, there are no mechanical inspections, test drives are not allowed, and there are no refunds. But we deliver for free...
Hey laddy. No we dont sell HOPE. We sold out of that long ago. But hey, we got loads of DESPAIR.
Great men do great things like call the fed hell hounds off Medical Cannabis and ? and ? and ?
Give citizen's money to -
Banks ? No!
to Insurance Companies ? No!
to the MIC ? No !
to Oil and Gas Corporations ? No !
WELL OBOMBER IS TRUELY A GREAT MAN FOR ALL THE MEDICAL CANNABIS PATIENTS !
maybe he will get around to the rest of the population next year, yeah right !
On December 1, 2009, Mr. Obama--in undisguised imitation of GWB--gave his war speech at West Point. I am in agreement with Ms. Joya and with RAWA. (see http://www.rawa.org/index.php). I wrote Mr. Obama the following letter.
You have totally forfeited my esteem.
You said: I have determined that it is in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan. After 18 months, our troops will begin to come home.
You said: our security is at stake in Afghanistan and Pakistan. This is the epicenter of the violent extremism practiced by al Qaeda. It is from here that we were attacked on 9/11, and it is from here that new attacks are being plotted as I speak.
You even claimed "our security is at stake." Using the ignorant Mr. Bush's lines spoken from the same podium in 2002, you seemed wholly unabashed.
Although I have been complaining to you in responses to your weekly internet addresses, I have abstained from judging you for eleven months. You have played into the hands of Ms. Clinton and Mr. Gates. This capitulation to General McChrystal is the last straw.
I did not forget your campaign speeches about Afghanistan. But I had hope that when you were voted into the presidency and were really the most powerful man on earth, you would use your vast personal aptitude to read about and understand that Afghanistan is just one more stepping stone for the wealthiest 1% among us to continue taking far more than their fair share of the world. I believed you would come to understand that the eternal verities do apply in the case of Afghanistan and in every case presented to us with current events.
My hopes are dashed. My beliefs are exploded. You are a milquetoast man without the spine to stand up to and oppose the handful of powerful people you have chosen to surround yourself with.
The art or technique of understanding should be on guard against arbitrary fancies and the limitations imposed by imperceptible personal habits of thought. Your are fixing your gaze on Afghanistan with particular expectations about the meaning you intend to find there. You have powerful cheerleaders in Ms. Clinton and Mr. Gates who distract you with their own strong opinions. So you cannot see things as they are by themselves.
__________
I feel nothing but despair. I no longer trust Mr. Obama about anything. He should have instantly fired General McChrystal for insubordination. Should have already closed Guantanamo, Bagram, and the black sites. Should have disbanded XZ and other American mercenary armies. Should have already brought home Americans from Iraq and Afghanistan. Should ignore General Petraeus and Mr. Cheney.
He should remind Mr. Gates and Ms. Clinton for whom they are working instead of allowing them to cop his head. He's fired from being _my_ president.
Michael Moore, who supported Obama up until now, also appears to have finally thrown in the towel:-
http://margotbworldnews.com/archives/2009/Dec/Dec7/obama.html
This is a letter that should have been put on a web site for people to "sign" onto. I would have been happy to add my signature to this.
I hope she is one day the official leader of Afghanistan. She certainly could teach our circus clowns and killers in the USA about proper governing.
I will look forward to reading her book. Another amazing read is 'Three Cups of Tea' by Greg Mortenson and David Oliver Relin, which traces Mortenson's evolution from Karakoram mountaineer to AfPak benefactor, building schools for girls, even under the authority of the Taliban. Mortenson and Joya point the way. When will we learn that war only begets war?
"As much as she deserves admiration, she's a fool to place her hopes in the USA." - that is right.
And I feel sorry for her.
This wonderful woman places her hopes on the People.
USA has come to represent the MIC and murderous parasites.
The People will find their balls and drive out the usurpers of our Constitution.
Not on USA! On Americans!
Without the USA Americans would never do as they are in Afghanistan.
The USA is the Pentagon and the White House. The first is the customer and the second is the supplier. The media is owned by them.
It is a system called Free Enterprise, where the Pentagon is free to do as it wishes, the suppliers freely follow and they both freely plunder.
The Stars and Stripes is a Jolly Rodger reworked by the finest Public Diplomacy faculties of the American Academies.
It is time for the USA to be exposed and dismantled.
It is: The Tri Lateral Commission, The Council on Foreign Relations and The Bilderberg Group that have been running the government of the United States.....Read Daniel Estulin´s "The True Story of the Bilderberg Group"!!!!
All of Obama´s advisors come from one of the three groups or all three.
I'm still trying to figure out if Obama is really just George W. in blackface.....??!!
BO is just being run by the same gangsters that ran W.
She needs another man from Tikrit like Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb. So do we all.
a brave woman indeed, whose courage trebles when compared to that of our spineless us president. her tribulations show that you must first have a democratic culture before you have a democratic government. only in afghanistan would an outspoken woman be threatened and nearly killed in her own parliament, and then be expelled after being elected. there is warlordism all over afghanistan, and i bet the loya jirga is probably sitting around a big campfire right now, with their bongs full of freshly harvested poppies. mcchrystal the killer will track and kill their enemies for them, just like he did for the shia folks over in iraq. then he'll lie about it, the same way he lied to pat tillman's family about the way he died. and he'll ban the red cross from visiting all the detainees he's about to round up in the provinces of afghanistan, just like he did in iraq. mcchrystal is lucky he fights for the us, because if he ever lost a war, he'd end up in the hague or at nuremberg. he's no doubt america's leading war criminal.
Bring America Back !!!!
****Malalai has done far more than her part !!! Now is NOT the time for her to become a suicidal patriot !
****Malalai must now go under cover, and resume her life
apart from the notorious activist role she has taken .
Perhaps in the far off future there will come a time to
return to her homelands, but definitely not now !!
****She has no protections from either her own peoples,
nor the occupying forces which she has so strongly invited
to get out of her country.
Well done, Malalai, we will read your book, but for now,
Get A Life, and godspeed !!
I hope the likes of Mike Malloy, Rachel Maddow, Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller and Bill Press whom continue to make excuses for Barack Obama and claim there is still a "big difference between Obama and Bush" become familiar with what Ms. Malalai Joya has said about the war criminal Barack Obama and his fellow war criminal in pal Bush.
These people on the liberal radio shows are smoking stuff if they think there is much of a difference in policy between Bush and Obama. Obama's healthcare plan sucks and sucks badly! Obama continues the Bush Doctrine despite what apologists like Mike Malloy say.
Mike Malloy is intellectually dishonest and has become a liar for Obama!